Phillip McCallen described as an occasional winner at the TT with 11 wins in total and 4 in a week, is a massive understatement. He never seems to get his dues given what he achieved in road racing.
@winstonsmith82402 жыл бұрын
I once saw a Marshall at the TT, an old guy, asked why he gave up 2 weeks of his life, at his age to do it, his reply, which always brings a tear to my eye, was one of the most beautiful things I've ever heard. He said; "To watch some of the bravest men in the world, try to achieve greatness." ❤
@anthonygibbo1881 Жыл бұрын
Wow I'm the sort of guy who relates, although I'm not there, so I Watch on board laps and races as much I can, genuinely the riders are like my favourite boxers and I can only wonder what it feels like being there, what I'm trying to say is I have nothing but respect for these two wheeled warriors.
@andywilson5626 Жыл бұрын
3 0:14 is 323
@frankhenryrygge2458 Жыл бұрын
Yes,without marshalls,around the world,it would not bee mutch racing,its the most important part of motorsport,but they often bee taken for granted,its best jobtoo have,those time i is spectator on a race,i really miss the radio&direct comunication,it felt naked some how
@jjr172811 ай бұрын
Only hunky bodybuilders should be allowed to Marshall. I want to see muscly gods not obese gargoyles
@jcearnhardt39310 ай бұрын
I am 62 years old, I and my family have been " speed freaks" all our lives, I am a 3rd generation, I have 2 sons that are carrying on it seems, we have had a successful business that has allowed us to build and go places from the Salt flats to nitro funny cars, we do retro racing. This past year we finally went to the isle of man. No, none of us race bikes but we had to go, for one it's beautiful, but the men, the speed, the skill level, the machines are absolutely on a level like no other competition, there is nothing absolutely nothing that compares to it, it doesn't matter if your not a great big fan of motorcycles, if your a fan of speed, skill and just flat out bravery then god knows you must agree, I know I am commenting on Peter's run bit all these riders are ridiculously good, I have been to every major automotive event in the world, from indy, Daytona, formula 1, nhra finals, dirt track finals, monster jam finals, world super bike finals, and NOTHING COMPARES TO THE ISLE OF MAN. PUT IT ON YOUR BUCKET LIST
@pitchforkpeasant62199 ай бұрын
You’re living the dream. Jealous. 😁. In a good way
@pmacc35573 ай бұрын
Just back from the Manx GP. It's not even about the speed or racing. They live and work in tents in all weathers and then to have the motivation to get on a bike and go Ballz to the wall.... it's some deep love..
@Neiljitsu4 жыл бұрын
A fantastic documentary, I hope its seen by millions. Fogarty lapped the course with absolutely no regard for his own safety. Two legends of the sport, RIP Steve.
@giantfisher3 жыл бұрын
260,389 to date. Just over one quarter million.
@sliperysid3 жыл бұрын
I hear Foggy is now a life skills coach, specialising in humility, discretion and how to be humble..😄
@johnpartridge76232 жыл бұрын
I wonder if Aaron Slight has asked for his help lol.
@lsmith63782 жыл бұрын
eh
@carlosoruna71742 жыл бұрын
Wasn't the yam a 2 stroke. No humility. Foggy or marques or el dr. Only fog had the balls to do the tt
@anthonyplaskett642 жыл бұрын
@@carlosoruna7174 no that's a YZF750-R
@bonzaralph2 жыл бұрын
😂
@grahamjohnpreston Жыл бұрын
Saw this Norton today at The National Motorcycle Museum. Brilliant. 🙂
@vibemunster4 жыл бұрын
If John McGuiness says Carl Fogarty is a nutter, then Fogarty is a nutter lol, huge respect to these guys, real racers.
@chrisdove34743 жыл бұрын
Carl's a DODGER
@karlosh92863 жыл бұрын
One nutter saying "Well, now he's a REAL nutter !" :-D
@billyelliott65253 жыл бұрын
you could always see it in his eyes
@theant9821 Жыл бұрын
@@karlosh9286 John isn't a nutter though. He seems calm and does a good job, he doesn't just go sod it, he rides to what he feels he can ride too, hence why hes lasted so long when others have been injured or worse, when he was badly injured it was because the bike spat him off, like the same bike did to guy martin when he had to jump off it at 140 mph in not the most forgiving part of the course. I think Michael Dunlop used to be a nutter but hes matured a lot since 2016 ish and doesn't seem to go too far anymore. which is a good thing for health and results. To finish first you must first finish, as they say.
@karlosh9286 Жыл бұрын
@@theant9821 I guess to me any biker who goes full bore around the Isle of Man course has to be a bit mad. I find the IoM TT compulsive viewing, mainly because I guess it's something I could never do. They certainly have a different "risk profile" to me. I'd love to do a lap of the IoM, but my laptime would probably be more like 60 minutes instead of 17 ish mins ! Admittedly some bikers are madder than others. To name a pair, yes, Carl Fogarty does seem a bit mad, along with Guy Martin. John McG has managed to survive, and also win a real lot of races. So he must be doing something right. He's still pretty quick as a plus 50 year old. To my knowledge John McG's worst crash was at the NW200 a few years ago, and that was the bikes fault, not his. I do agree Michael Dunlop is a bit more measured these days. He's still very quick.
@melox.loeber Жыл бұрын
One the greatest TT Races of all times
@josephbland39042 жыл бұрын
Absolutely tear jerking!... waves of Nostalgia are building within.. I was there at the IOM TT that year... Grown men were in tears seeing that Norton had finallyWon a TT again . Both riders at the very top of there game. Can’t believe in sheer ingratitude of the Norton Executive Bosses when the team returned home victorious... moaning about the cleanliness in the pits... FFS!!! they should’ve been kissin’ the asses of the guys that made that win possible... Unbelievable... We remember you Whizzy Hizzy!.... I bet you pulled a wheelie through the pearly gates. Fantastic racing... & an Epic event. Breathtaking...
@kevincopeland62456 ай бұрын
It was a pleasure to be there and witness this brilliant race
@thewoodster86073 жыл бұрын
I was privileged enough to be there at Kirk Michael. There is absolutely no exaggerating in this video. We knew we were witnessing something really special and for Norton to win........just fantastic. I'll never forget it.
@splodge574 жыл бұрын
'Bits of paper in the pits' Barry Symmons left speechless by Norton management. Great win by the team and Steve Hislop in the best ever TT race.
@davefloyd94432 жыл бұрын
Hizzy's natural talent was THAT good. Remember when he beat Rossi's MotoGP laptime at Donny on that BSB Monstermob Ducati in 2001?
@jonbda3 жыл бұрын
The howl of the Norton still makes the hairs on the back of my neck stand up even now. Bloody awesome Senior that was...
@johnwhitworth20903 жыл бұрын
Hey! Hey! Watch the language. Your 100% right.
@jdillinger99813 жыл бұрын
The Norton is freaking wicked foggy was wishing he had one....
@williamrae99542 жыл бұрын
Well,there's a new one available...think it would kick the Supertwins arse(130kg 220bhp)?
@Banditmanuk3 жыл бұрын
Such a great documentary, thanks to whoever put this together.
@ianmacfarlane12413 жыл бұрын
I've seen this story so many times and I've grown up with Foggy, but it's always hilarious listening to him. According to Foggy the Norton could do 500mph, while he's the only one who ever suffered from mechanical issues. Priceless.
@gilbertoconcerto47353 жыл бұрын
That's why his face always looks so scrunched up, because it's too close to the shite.
@matthewcumberland80662 жыл бұрын
I do give him "style points"for the CCM t-shirt
@smokerjim2 жыл бұрын
Barry Sheene is reported to have described Foggy as having an incurable eye disease, as in "If I'd been given a factory NSR ride I could have won the 500 GP championship, no question, I would have been the champion!"
@ianmacfarlane12412 жыл бұрын
@@smokerjim Great quote, and one that I've never heard before. Accurate too - like many great sportspeople*, Foggy's supreme confidence borders on arrogance, and not without good reason, as he was an incredibly talented rider. Was he right though? Difficult to say, but I'd suggest no. Honda, and for that matter, Cagiva, clearly didn't think that he could mount a serious championship challenge either, or he'd have been given the opportunity** - Honda are in the business of winning championships, (and selling all manner of vehicles), and if they thought Foggy could bring a championship home, he'd surely have been given an NSR - a British champion would have been hugely significant during the 1990s, given the size of the UK sportsbike market at the time. As an outsider, with no connection to motorbike racing, it looked like Honda, and Cagiva/Ducati saw Carl Fogarty as a top level production racer, but not a Grand Prix racer, aside from half a dozen wildcard rides. *Barry Sheene was hardly lacking in confidence himself. **Obviously there were, (and still are) other considerations in racing, though I couldn't give any insight into the internal politics of the paddock - there could always be other reasons he never got a GP ride.
@davefloyd94432 жыл бұрын
And then there was Joey. The complete opposite. Humble AND also a stone cold winner.
@matthewjohnson42082 жыл бұрын
I personally would love to see them recognize Robert Dunlop in this race. One of the best in the top 3 that day👌🏻
@herculesmclovin Жыл бұрын
14:20, 21:23 and 25:49 are RD mentions.
@johnpartridge76233 жыл бұрын
One of the best races of all time when everything worked, two of the best riders just brilliant. A bloody shame that Hizzy isn't around to talk about it, sadly missed by many.
@MarkSiosal3 жыл бұрын
I went to the same school as Hizzy and he used to fix/MOT my bikes in the late 80s. He worked at Olivers Garage when he was riding at the IOM. He had stopped by '92. I was at his funeral in Hawick & at the cemetery at Southdean. It was very emotional seeing him laid to rest beside his dad and his brother Garry who was killed at Silloth in '82.
@johnpartridge76233 жыл бұрын
@@MarkSiosal I watched Hizzy the Year before he died in BSB he rode that Bike like he nicked it, I think he won the Championship on the Paul Bird Ducati.
@MarkSiosal3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpartridge7623 yep he did. On the Monster Mob Ducati which is in the museum in Hawick, just up the road from me. Although he eventually grew on me, I didn't like Shakey Byrne much because he took Hizzy's ride at the time. Obviously ended up seeing him as a brilliant bloke & amazing talent but just for that year I wanted to see him beat lol. Steve was one of the nicest guys you could meet even before he was famous. He used to show me his latest machine & showed me round Olivers (the garage he worked at) pretty big TT race bike collection a few times which was bikes from the 50s onwards at the time. Great memories.
@johnpartridge76233 жыл бұрын
@@MarkSiosal Monster Mob, the Name I just couldn't remember, I never met Hizzy but after reading various Magazines & Books etc I gather he was one of the nicest blokes around the Paddock & certainly the fastest.
@MarkSiosal3 жыл бұрын
@@johnpartridge7623 i can assure you he was one of the nicest people you could ever meet. I used to sit with him and chat while he worked on my bikes back in the late 80s and it was like talking to your best mate. Just a really humble, nice kind man.
@spy75383 жыл бұрын
McCallen as humble as ever. Foggy is his own biggest fan. Damn shame Hizzy couldn't share his views.
@Nick-Emery2 жыл бұрын
McCallen is a lovely bloke, I met him this year at the TT, he gave us a tour of the track and stopped for a chat and a picture after, really really humble guy
@1950Bonanza10 ай бұрын
@@Nick-Emery Damn fast rider too!
@richardsracingmad4 жыл бұрын
When you dont have a budget of millions $$, you work on the best that you can get out of a smaller budget....what a great video, thanks
@MWS19603 жыл бұрын
Living near Liverpool and taking the ferry to the Isle of Man to see this race in my teenage years was a wonderful experience. Now living in Scottsdale, AZ and riding motorcycles I often think back to the TT’s. One day I’ll return to enjoy that race with my three boys
@ChasingTenths3 жыл бұрын
It's amazing how that lovely Norton sounds on the overrun off throttle, sounds like the modern day audible traction control, epic performance, epic bike
@testaccount41913 жыл бұрын
sounds like a real pig to work on though
@peterroycroft6433 Жыл бұрын
Foggy's modesty is legendary......😅
@JohnSmith-vu6zd7 ай бұрын
Haha! Good call, a real Joey Dunlop!😂
@kawakalypse27704 жыл бұрын
Best sound from the Norton. Thank you
@logan_e2 жыл бұрын
As an above average rider for nearly 60 years all I can say is every single IOM TT pilot deserves immense praise. At my best I couldn't hold a candle to any of them, let alone guys like Foggy, Islap and the Dunlap brothers!
@jfc2132 жыл бұрын
been on bikes 55 yrs well im still here ha ha but the TT ?? they have something i dont respect xx
@soultaniaziz.4033 Жыл бұрын
TT is love 💞💞💞
@kevinshea39912 жыл бұрын
Mad respect to all tt racers past,present and future whether your the number one to last place all tt racers are the ultimate racers and the TT is the greatest race course in the world it would be my dream come true to see a TT race live. Me and my father were going to come the year they had hoove and mouth disease and it was cancelled and my Dad has since passed away something I wanted to do with him .
@woodywoodlstein95193 жыл бұрын
Happy to have watched this. These heroes of mine. Rip Joey Dunlop Cheers to these hard men riding hard bikes. Lovem. And I hope to see an Isle of Man TT in person someday.
@dylangriso97473 жыл бұрын
RIP Steve, Thanks pal.
@jonpage40293 жыл бұрын
Incredible day. Thank you for posting this. I did not see it live
@JoeyDNo34 жыл бұрын
Those were the days , for us lot to cherish , the younger lot to wish they were born 20 years earlier . 💝 .
@stewartallan14406 ай бұрын
As a newcomer to the TT , I can't describe my joy at discovering the competitive level, married with camaraderie. And I have so much to view!
@carolinekelleway57323 жыл бұрын
By far the most exciting race i have ever seen and i have seen a few ,true gladiator stuff and when the TT was at its best in my opinion
@SaberToothLawnTigers3 жыл бұрын
Awesome video, the Norton sounded so good couldn't imagine how much balls it took to get that win.
@woooster173 жыл бұрын
Epic battle that will be forever immortalised as ‘the’ TT race.. Hizzy & Foggy, legends.. Looking forward so much to 2022 IOM..with Rona a distant memory!
@danfielden97392 жыл бұрын
I found foggy really arrogant in this. The way he spoke about Phil McCallen was nothing short of rude. Great rider and this was an awsome watch. But I hadn't realised he was still like this 🤣
@jacquesjtheripper59222 жыл бұрын
Jesus, what a course, what a race, what riders! What a thrill, nuts, adrenaline junkies, brave and lucky too
@jackiechan88402 жыл бұрын
This is pure quality. Love the interviews spread throughout the race. More interesting than watching the live races IMO.
@freesoul85vis4 жыл бұрын
One of the greatest TT duels of all time.... When the British made rotary engined Norton won against the might of Japan! 🔥
@giantfisher3 жыл бұрын
Fogarty talks as fast as he rides! Just slightly easier to understand than Guy Martin.
@alonzowilliams1163 жыл бұрын
He doesn't talk fast at all
@giantfisher3 жыл бұрын
@@alonzowilliams116 Oh. OK. From 3:23 to 3:29 he might have said ten words without any break between them. I'm not trying to undercut your comment, but yeah... you are wrong. Be well.
@alonzowilliams1163 жыл бұрын
@@giantfisher if you ride be safe and have fun 🏍✌🏾
@giantfisher3 жыл бұрын
@@alonzowilliams116 Please forgive me, I'm Californian. A disease by definition. I'm trying to better myself. I mean no harm.
@ryanpierce97933 жыл бұрын
@19:21 wow, what shot and a beast of a rider and bike.
@richaddulieu19673 жыл бұрын
Great stuff good old Norton foggy sorry mate you got beaten 👍😉 historic
@Alistair_Spence2 жыл бұрын
Really enjoyed this. I was at the TT that year, as a fairly new motorcycle rider. I didn't really know much about the TT at the time. I happened to have a couple of weeks holiday coming up at work and went on a whim. It was without doubt the most intense and incredible sporting event that I have ever witnessed. The atmosphere in the crowd during the Senior race was electric. I still occasionally talk about it to friends, to this day, and it's only with the benefit of hindsight that I have come to understand what it was that I watched that day. I'd love to go back. Someday, I will, for sure.
@dylangriso97473 жыл бұрын
Pity we don’t have Steven Hislops opinion. RIP.
@Rauz113 жыл бұрын
we need mooooooooore like this
@jamesowen4360 Жыл бұрын
Must say you to are great for this TT stuff. Great Job. Michael is on another level
@WillSharlotte-rq5uk Жыл бұрын
WHAT A REPLY.
@timjkiely3 жыл бұрын
Amazing human beings , two legends .brilliant video
@caolanmcmanus1726 Жыл бұрын
Joey dunlop TT LEGEND
@martynh44072 жыл бұрын
Followed foggy all over world super bike ..love him he’s all tongue in cheek wish Steve was still with us I saw him break his neck at brands and he came back…so sad he’s not here today
@shanesmith26162 жыл бұрын
Let's not forget Robert dunlop, he did come in 3rd after all..
@cosmiccharlie82942 жыл бұрын
These guys are warriors who have prevailed and survived. Amazing men! To bad that Norton could not parley that performance into a resurgence.
@buckwheatINtheCity2 жыл бұрын
Robert Dunlopdid not get the credit he deserved in this race.
@paulwilliams85884 ай бұрын
Said hello to Steve today above Douglas Bay.. RIP Buddy ❤️
@stormcrowe98206 ай бұрын
Great interview & discussion of the event!
@taff69873 жыл бұрын
Truly epic racing all the way back in the early 90s....top darts!
@jeffholmes80923 жыл бұрын
Great race and great racers. The TT is still the best racing in the world.
@pablobarrera76137 ай бұрын
Wow! I didn't know this story. During all the clip I was expecting to hear that Foggy had won with the official Yamaha, but no! Hislop won with the underdog machine! That's A-MA-ZING!
@johnmutton7993 жыл бұрын
Julian Ryder. What happened to him? He was the best commentator. Period! He was simply the best. Listening to races is not the same! Greatest race in the world! With the greatest riders! Foggy is one of the greatest rider, EVER! JOEY IS KING OF THE MOUNTAIN!
@ktmtravels3727 Жыл бұрын
I think he only retired in the last few years, he (and I) got pretty emotional as you can imagine. One of those voices you associate with the racing.
@caravanstuff28273 жыл бұрын
I never understood why the isl of man tt race was so iconic till I hocked into the whole "cafe racer" back history...it is the Origin of every thing...all bike culture in the UK stems from it...great that Norton won!!!.😎
@massimilianobelloni2374 жыл бұрын
Greatest race ever
@flalingbashers29574 жыл бұрын
No 2018 greatest senior race ever
@JayEss4144 жыл бұрын
fantastic content
@christiankearns44663 жыл бұрын
BRAVE MEN these guy's BALLS of Steel !!!!
@claytonknight30786 ай бұрын
WOW that was awesome!!
@martinhambleton5076 Жыл бұрын
At the time I felt very compromised. I was a huge Carl Fogarty fan. But to have a Norton, at a TT, that was capable of winning. The result was always going to be great and disappointing at the same time. Totally brilliant on reflection.
@ericwilson1783 жыл бұрын
The IoMTT is the greatest race in the world. On my bucket list. I'm at Indy every year though. Sacrifices.
@pauldean86383 жыл бұрын
I want to see guy and foggy chat together , it be like the meeting of minds , one who thinks “ I’ll give it a crack “ to the other “ your going to lose “
@delboy8683 жыл бұрын
I remember watching that on the TV many years ago it was a amazing race so exciting
@ironbrew88413 жыл бұрын
I think you have to watch the video again and understand the English, everything Foggy says is spot on
@davidsheriff89893 жыл бұрын
I used to go IoM in the early 60s and watch the TT races
@michaelworse60343 жыл бұрын
Wow , so you've seen most of the greatest racers in person ? Born in the early 60s here , I'm jealous.
@davidsheriff89893 жыл бұрын
@@michaelworse6034 Sadly in those days there were many crashes and fatalities...
@andisadler28975 ай бұрын
Norton was indeed a rocket but unreliable. Rotary engine and produced 220bhp! mental.
@stevethepirate1232 жыл бұрын
Greatest moment for me meeting Foggy, and the funny thing is- he would not have a clue meeting me or a single memory of it lmfao 🤣
@richardcarr75573 жыл бұрын
Both amazing riders and what a race! You have to ignore Foggy's ego🤦
@caolanmcmanus1726 Жыл бұрын
It takes a brave man to race the TT the commitment and fearlessness to drive like that is honorable road racing is a very risky business so many have died
@steveemmett95403 жыл бұрын
Still great race. I fell out of my chair ,leaning over so far to make the corners.
@a34rwl3 жыл бұрын
Great film, fantastic interviews
@martiniv89243 жыл бұрын
I watched Foggy win in 1990’ Trevor nation second on the Norton, he put in an incredible Lap in practice as I recall, Big Foggy fan ever since 🙌🏼
@graemegullick43838 ай бұрын
I was there, it really was an amazing race, and the atmosphere was electric when it looked like the Nortons were looking good for the win
@janicespiby25055 ай бұрын
Wat a great great pair of riders 🏍️🏍️♥️♥️
@DaSilva99510 ай бұрын
Best stay free I've ever seen and I've been here a long time this is the key we'll beat then at ther own game
Love the 💗 helmet 😂, darn I should have chose the pink striped Arai myself 😅
@arielsaeth2 жыл бұрын
R I P Hizzy, Robert , joey and all the other lads, can't beleive it.s 30 years ago
@shanerr72523 жыл бұрын
Omfg hislop thats a man on a mission
@jameswulzen5903 жыл бұрын
great race all over, love it.
@johnmalcolm6003 жыл бұрын
What a great film
@1978JonBullock7 ай бұрын
These road racers are a different breed.
@thargor67503 жыл бұрын
You know, I bet that 120mph lap at 5am was something awesome to see.... I need to build a time machine.
@frankyork58086 ай бұрын
Having just been to the TT, l can say these riders are super humans!
@Drifty403 жыл бұрын
Foggy had about half an OWO1 left at the finish. lol Respect !
@jacquiewalton199625 күн бұрын
Didn't you used to be Marty McCloy from Newtownards ?
@jacobhendrickson89353 жыл бұрын
Wow I would love to see a commentary version like this of every year of the TT. It’s so great hearing the backstory while watching bits of the race and hearing all of the details of what was good and what was bad. Was the engine going to make it?? ETC Is there any more episodes like this one??
@Errafri3 жыл бұрын
Foggy is freakin' an older Guy Martin! Never noticed it before.
@jacquesjtheripper59222 жыл бұрын
Hehe yh, crazy adrenaline junky eyes 👀
@neilanyon47922 жыл бұрын
God, Foggy's scary. Seriously though, in 1991 and 1992 me and my Dad drove over from Yorkshire to Llandudno's Great Orme where we could pick up the Manx Radio commentary. Both races were incredible but I think the Honda v Honda duel just pipped it for me.
@Luke-Harno34 жыл бұрын
HIZZY 🏆 🥇
@kmc73554 жыл бұрын
'White Charger'
@Luke-Harno34 жыл бұрын
@@kmc7355 Yep ! :)
@sturmgesutz3 жыл бұрын
Hizzy had a supreme natural talent, really the 2 wheeled version of the late Jim Clark [ another fellow borderer ] When Hizzy's head was right he was unbeatable by anyone anywhere.
@karenfromireland6 ай бұрын
For me the first bikes I remember seeing on TV were the Captain America bike in Easy Rider and Evel Knievel's XR-750
@ewennicolson43423 жыл бұрын
Foggy, king of the back handed compliment.....
@karlosh92864 жыл бұрын
I had a Mazda RX7 from the late 1980s back in the early 90s. Yeah it drank fuel too . That's rotary engines for you !
@stephentrout78793 жыл бұрын
Did it drink oil as well?
@karlosh92863 жыл бұрын
@@stephentrout7879 It did have a bit of an appetite for I think "Mobil 1" oil. Not quite as bad as its petrol drinking habit. What always "got me" , was the "afterburner" on the OEM exhaust manifold. It wasn't there to make it go faster, in fact it restricted performance. The "afterburrner" was just putting in some extra air into the exhaust gases to help burn off the fuel that had gone straight through the combustion chamber. i.e. it helped with emissions, and made the OEM exhaust pipe one of the dearest on any car at the time. (about £1500 ish) Janspeed offered an exhaust, that just threw away the after burner, and let the unburnt petrol out. Half the price (£750 ish ) of the official Mazda one , and it got a performance increase , IIRC of about 20 to 30 BHP. I never fitted the janspeed one, I got rid of the car before the exhaust fell apart !
@flatcapcaferacer3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@lee11703 жыл бұрын
Brilliant!
@wanemergency35913 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately we will never see a wsb champion on the iom. Not to mention a should have been multiple wsb champion. Only he didn't get the sponsorship. R.i.p steve
@BrianBell40733 жыл бұрын
I've always been a huge Foggy fan but he sounds a bit arrogant here. He said Joey was no longer a threat but Joey won another 15 TT races after Foggy won his last of three
@TheChickenLine3 жыл бұрын
He said Joey was no threat to him, he’s right! Foggy was a far better rider than Joey Dunlop, as he proved by becoming multiple World Superbike Champion. Joey Dunlop was a prolific TT winner, but he was never the greatest TT Rider, those accolades belong to Hailwood, Agostini, Geoff Duke…and yes, Carl Fogarty, all World Champions!
@BrianBell40733 жыл бұрын
@@TheChickenLineYou see that statue? It ain't Foggy. Johnny Rea would have destroyed Foggy on a short circuit. Joey destroyed him on road races. The three most successful track guys in the past 30 years had a look at the TT and basically went 'fuck that' (Doohan, Rossi and Rea....all loved their run off areas)
@TheChickenLine3 жыл бұрын
@@BrianBell4073 You fail to understand. I respect Joey for his achievements, but he was unable to take TT wins when the top short circuit riders raced…Joey was a Gladiator on the road circuit, but, never one of the greatest riders in history, I’m sorry to burst your bubble…even Ian Hutchinson could never progress further than Supersport, Peter Hickman further than BSB…I’ve been going to the TT since the Hailwood days, many of my friends where successful TT riders and I can assure you that Joey was always there, like John McGuiness…but even they would never put their career achievements above the likes of Mike Hailwood, Ago, Foggy…racing isn’t measured by the length of a run off but courage is, or to some people ‘stupidity’, and that’s their choice!
@TheChickenLine3 жыл бұрын
Further, it took 3yrs to know the course, it probably takes 4-5 now because of the speeds. Joey may have beaten Foggy and others on their TT debut, but once these riders got to grips with the circuit they not only beat Joey but they also broke the lap records, something that Joey never done, he never held a lap record and therefore, Never “Smashed” his opponents! Again, I take no pleasure in bursting your bubble…
@shanesmith26162 жыл бұрын
@@TheChickenLine joey dunlop was 5 time's World champion.