THE GROCK EXPERIENCE

[@konrusi8128]

9:38 Dang that johnson was so smooth he avoided that wall very quickly His instinct is much faster than my neighbours clapping each other

[@preach9]

9:38

[@konrusi8128]

@@preach9 oh sorry my bad

[@MayTen96]

Ikr right. I was waiting for Elgin to mention that but guess maybe he didn't see it or pay too much attention on the minimap😂

[@musteroogway6962]

That's what u call tokyo drift

[@yazyaz2969]

@No name Yours don't?

[@firstername]

kinda wish grock could recast his wall so he could put it down earlier

[@sultansama8084]

yeah this never made since to me, i main grock and sometimes the wall did it pupose and i need to remove it

[@lenindsouza2562]

Elgin, congrats on reaching 1Billion views on KZbin! Feels good to be part of this community.

[@Gian872]

Damn, remember when grock's ult used to deal huge amount of damage that it can literally one shot anyone except tank. The nerf really hits hard, I used to play him often before the nerf came because of the ridiculous damage

[@karrot610]

It still deals a ridiculous amount of dmg to squishies when you go for a penetration build, besides a combo from 1st skill + ult + dire hit + heptaseas basic attack is about more than enough

[@mattgavrieljulongbayan2013]

9:00 ELGIN: HOPE ANOTHER MIRACLE WILL HAPPEN PING: OK

[@GeeDee1412]

I really think it would be nice if the devs added a second phase to grock's wall where you can choose to take it down early for when you mess up your casting..

[@zackzoom8779]

It's weird moonton has not added that since grock's release

[@mafimok]

like badang's

[@benedettaerenjager6573]

@@zackzoom8779 Bro its weird that you play grock exp lane full dmg build but he still more tanky than actual tank..

[@benedettaerenjager6573]

@@zackzoom8779 and u guys really want grock to get more op.. A freaking tank played on exp lane with full dmg build dealing 2.5k dmg with one skill and his damn ultimate stuns 3 seconds.. and the range. Bro grock need a nerf not a buff -..- People who have 5k points play grock because he is too op

[@zackzoom8779]

@@benedettaerenjager6573 That's because grock is best played with squad, and no way he is able to deal that damage in solo rank

[@bingnambatac4622]

tank Grock not used in lower ranks because in lower ranks it's more likely to get the trash teammates and very hard to kill the enemy when you set and then your teammates just farming :) but exp lane grock has more higher chances of carrying in solo queue 😊

[@normie9806]

Grock is a good counter pick to franco, kufra and atlas. Having a cc immune means you can check bush easily while casting skill 1. And if atlas, kufra were ever to flicker ult your team, you can always use your ult on the opponent backline to save them.

[@trolleycartwheel9409]

You're not immune to franco's ult though. It's so annoying, I've died several times trying to wonder why am I being stunned when I'm still holding 1st skill.

[@ludmillassandopoundEr]

@@trolleycartwheel9409 it’s suppress suppress does not care about any cc immunity

[@tsrychannel8806]

Who will throw out surpress skill for a roamer 😂, except they are on low hp. It is more worthy to surpress asasin or mm or mage

[@MrCobaltYT]

@@trolleycartwheel9409 Franco is one of the three heroes who have suppression in their skills (also with Kaja and Barats)

[@MrCobaltYT]

@@trolleycartwheel9409 and Suppression is the ultimate stun that didn't removed by CC immunity

[@incbgamer929]

Is it just me or now we can't ultimate + flicker silvanna anymore

[@holorizu7316]

This got patched lol

[@Weird_guy47]

She from underated to unplayable

[@rome3521]

​@@Weird_guy47how tf is she unplayable am i missing something? last time i check she was op even before ultimate + flicker trick

[@heisenberg1046]

Got removed but the cast speed was buffed and skill 2 now counts as a basic attack so feather of heaven went from solid item to busted core item on silvanna.

[@waywardwind6147]

Flicker ult lets her ult from out of sight

[@gm-fy3rd]

grock dmg is very good against heroes like wanwan bcz his high phy defense and burst damage and also his ult flicker is very unpredictable not like atlas and have 1.8 sec stun and he counters js and fanny and any dashless hero with his 2 skills

[@oddpotato4038]

Agreed, he has faster skill deployment. The only thing that comes to mind why he is unpopular on lower rank because of his weird skill kit. He isn't as straightforward as other tanks and requires a deeper knowledge on how to use his skills (and most common mistake I see is when to use his wall because it can ruin your teammates position also if not used properly). But once you understand his kit more he can be a very effective team fight initiator. (Flash backs to when he is the top pick for all tiers)

[@gm-fy3rd]

@@oddpotato4038 yes thats right and a lot of player dont know about his cc immunity if hes close to the wall while charging his first skill

[@happynightmares4688]

Not to mention grock dmg has so much armor that wanwan ult cant even do half hp even with armor pen

[@Suss420]

He also has passive when you increase his physical attack

[@sayuchan6989]

9:37 that Jhon driving skills is crazy man 🔥

[@keannuwasawaken593]

He's more like in strategic play, that's why he's popular in higher ranks. Minion blocking was the trick that every DOTA rank player usually do in order to delay laners' farm.

[@Saint_MaX_ONeal_B_Rul]

Like Frwydchicken said,Grock is a scaling hero.Even if u go 050 in early game,full build damage Grock can still change the outcome of the game.Have patience when playing him guys

[@ruihian-72]

It's amazing how mythic rank game became M4 after the tournament many players started picking up hero's and playing them from M4 and I love it honestly. Can u do a video abt both harith and lunox in the gold Lane?

[@Kwpwnzbi81jbshsksmabajs]

Many tries but many also failed

[@kenaltigaboaging6145]

9:40 the johnson who managed to turn in a small area though 😆

[@Agix.]

The reason why you stall wave is because if enemy mage/marksman has stronger early than their counterpart it’s safer to have wave aggroed to your side so you don’t get ganked by enemy core or mage. Furthermore, you can recall every 30s since grock clears wave really fast so that your team can play slightly more passive and farm up better. This way you might force enemy to overextend to reach their wave and it’ll be a free Gank.

[@cede2747]

i can't forget my game when i built grock burst damage and comeback with teammates who just wanna give up, was literally 35 mins long i even stole two lords and enemies where cheering for me lmao that was so intense but so fun seeing that burst damage pop off

[@mtqsol2]

Im no Grock user but all these years of playing ranked i encounter some good grock players i think what makes him popular in m4 is because of his ability to check bushes without getting ccd and get bursted down ambush is quite popular in late game so grock is a good pick if your enemy have hard cc Edit: He's also good initiator

[@gaminglife8103]

Good gameplay Eyok Elgin. keep farm and carry hard Next M4 hero I want see u play is Lapu2

[@ROV2MLBB]

"I guess they can still use it in the next game" 😂😂😂

[@hoozartz6740]

If only my teammates is this cooperative.

[@maolenvinpelaez2199]

High and Dry can work on Grock but Weapon Master is better since he gets more damage from his items while still getting more tanky.

[@weiyang7485]

i honestly think they should put back his magic def stats when near a wall, its honestly a huge nerf to us who are tank roamer grock

[@melchorsapotalo6106]

It's so hard to use grock in lower rank since his stun aren't so obvious for inexperienced players. Unlike tigreal that and altas that are all so obvious. But for me a second skill and third skill combo of grock is also a best set.

[@aimansal6365]

Im glad yuzhong won voted m-skin. Im hoping for grock or maybe any other tanky hero like belerick. Should give more exposure on tank hero.

[@shinigami6120]

I really think Grock is a wonderful pick as a roamer to help his team snowball faster and secure objectives on the early game. As EXP laner he is also very good for push and dealing damage, he is not used by lower ranks because they lack in game knowledge and game sense to use him properly.

[@bbb23308]

At 9:00 Elgin : hope we get another miracle Ping : ok sure 😹

[@takoyakiiii]

Buys Malefic Roar = the glock experience

[@alemansprototypeguy]

As a Grock main, the reason why he was seldom picked in lower ranks is... 1. People think tanks should be roamers, not Saber, Thamuz or even Julian. 2. Lack of team coordination when played as a tank. 3. People think squishies such as Chou and Zilong are wiser EXP lane choices compared to tanks.

[@Portgas-D.Ace---]

The fact that Brody survive that last team fight is impressive tho

[@justsee7008]

bruh moonton just add" we got the lord" with Elgin voice for ingame speech communication

[@Hanzo0131]

Grock became popular because of the flicker ult combo and the buff of flicker

[@PlatinPark1992]

Low ranks doesn't pick him bc they don't know how to play him probably. Playing him to his full potential is kinda difficult

[@kikiboom884]

Wish grock can remove his wall Just like badang This way players have more room for error

[@firstername]

exactly but i feel like it would lower his skill floor. a buff like that would be really good for sure but i think it just gets rid of the whole positioning the wall properly thing

[@zackzoom8779]

@@firstername That buff is very necessary, and it does not make grock less of a cool hero to master.

[@zackzoom8779]

@@firstername And it's still the same thing, you place wall whenever its needed but you can remove it for your team to go through!

[@zackzoom8779]

@@firstername And he would be able to play with fanny players without getting flamed when the fanny's attack is interrupted by the wall

[@gab-gabda1855]

1:00 lucky Johnson😭

[@siregirl9599]

i just play grock not becus i think he's such a great tank or anything, but becus he is definitively the strongest solo que hero in the entire game. like if you are tired haveing crap teamates or if u are forced to pick tank, just go grock. go semi tank build with dire hit and excute on him and just play like jungle. screw babysitting mm and mages, forget about peeling for your backline. damage grock is the true tank experience

[@rydarkplays]

Grock exp is insanely good especially during first turtle.

[@liamsoar4534]

10:26 anyone noticed that Grock ult bug?

[@seaturtledad6596]

hi, I use grock as main for 2 years now with 2k plus match.. before the ult buff i use him supp/tank sometimes tank ass mix with def item, now i use grock with assassin emblem exp lane or roam tank with supp emblem for movement speed and hybrid Penetration for kill secure. he is a bit squishy early game but give deadly damage if u build damage Penetration properly. my only complain is not many reports about his passive bug, sometimes it didn't trigger instantly after pressed skill 1 when u about to get stun, and skill triggered automatically after stunned duration, thus moonton never addressed this bug to be fixed. his ult can be easily counter by chou first skill, vexana curse skill and her ult , terizla ult and many more.. his passive can be stopped by many heroes such as brody, franco ult, kaja.. the only spell that i mainly use is execute and flicker . my only rule u dont build full tank if u go solo que cuz u will get disappointed by stupid core that can't positions themselves and die first in team fight. spare some damage for ur build 😉

[@xValkya]

ive been abusing grock since he released and was broken op, hes still my 2nd fav hero since then

[@ronvanhalen]

LMAO with those sarcasms..

[@reysenpai8649]

Is this Bocchi The GROCK

[@honorstealer]

Lmaaaaaooooo

[@7DEPITY]

most of the time when players use grock in lower tiers they usually equipped it with tanky items which is the wrong way to play him. Because his hp is base on his physical damage attributes the more physical items he build the tankier he gets. Usually I go with the heptaseas first because it greatly complements his first skill, after charging his 1st skill in the bush and casting it against the enemy his damage really hurts plus the passive of heptaseas surely makes ur laning face easier.

[@Meow-il2ux]

Are you going to ignore defensive items passive?

[@onion69420]

I am usually a damage dealing roaming grock

[@myopiamlbb]

A pro enemy’s Grock is my Khufra’s formidable opponent so far.

[@OSTCarmine]

When will they just remove his Mana? It's one of the things that annoy me most about him. What exactly is the reasoning behind keeping him as a mana user? He barely has cc

[@LJYG02]

his name gives it away: grock = great rock

[@MamamuPastiBangga]

I never thought that I would hear someone said “Experience Laner” 😂😂

[@richmarion5072]

LET GROCK HAVE HIS COLLECTOR SKIN ALREADY!!!!! PLEASE ELGIN TELL MOONTON, HE IS MY FAVE HERO!!!!

[@Opnal_Arte]

Grock has great for 5man/trio with comms

[@Rickkhry]

Finally, I've been playing grock a lot and it is amazing Xp (weapon master dmg build no boots ) and roam (same thing but with dire hit) 2/1 defense item (athena shield/radient/blade armor) pretty good I use: BOD BOH MR (if u need, SH if u don't def item or BOD) BOD (again) (Defense item or BOD again)

[@Dangy11997]

Personally what u really need is a friend with you atleast who listens like duo or trio becuz trusting randoms is what i do and keep losing i was almost global for grock but lost a lot so just kept him in bay for now

[@warmist8197]

Is the minion block used to give zone advantage to a solo mid lane teammate as Gin said, as well as deny xp to the enemy briefly? What benefits are there? Also i wondered if using Antique Cuirass vs Grock lowers his phys defense in fights?

[@johnhenrydeita9382]

AS A TANK USER IN OUR SQUAD AND A CAPTAIN, I USUALLY PICK TANK HEROES THAT CAN HARASS ENEMY JUNGLER AND GIVE VISION TO OUR TEAM.. GROCK IS ONE OF THEM ALONGSIDE WITH HILDA AND HYLOS... I LOVE TANK HEROES SPECIALLY HYLOS.

[@Dashii-]

You also forgot that grock was played in jungle few times

[@SathaChea]

11:27 That's such a strong Brody.

[@Fish4374]

when grocc blocc the way so you cant get kill so you delete mlbb and pay bill

[@oneautumnleaf5403]

would you cover the new emblem system with full explaination and recommended talent for heroes?

[@Abhishekonhisway]

0:58 ME AND MY HOMIES FOR NO REASON 🗿

[@tenderjuicyplays4634]

bro ikr😭

[@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz8788]

bromance 💪

[@karrot610]

I usually go sprint with grock as I bull doze through enemy teams, they normally underestimate how much dmg his 1st deals and they’re too late to realize once their hp has been halved. Even if I were to die I’d take the dmg dealer with me

[@NoNo-li7eg]

Jayvee really thinks he's got a chance against Papa Jesus lmao

[@user-or1gh8ye8z]

i hecking love Grock Exp

[@jakey9746]

Tank with a damage build is scary LOL. Tigreal MM build, Franco Assassin Build and Johnson Mage build. Squishy heroes are just a blink of an eye to them.

[@Freyamlbb-k8h]

Hi elgin i love your video im a fan since you anime the mlbb i have question for you are you a Filipino? Pls answer this

[@paulitlog4561]

Hey Elgin I'm a huge fan,may I ask u a question how did u have those items sell in outside in your map bottom how man

[@DontInterractWithMeBetween9-5.]

Nuh uh, we do not move on when you dont explain that kiss 🤨🤨🤨

[@freddienaga398]

Hey Elgin can you make a video on why Lylia is still picked in M4. I asked Betosky for 480 days plus and gave up because he either is not reading comments or just ignoring the message for all those day. Thanks

[@shemcuenca7242]

Respect to Jonhson he is really a good driver😂

[@VinsmokeSanji-]

Hey elgin try to use the lapu lapu of the super rookie Sanford Or maybe the yve of another super rookie sanji

[@justinz2561]

Hello there Elgin what website do you get your statistics from? I wanna look at them

[@francishaddenxavierglenn1329]

Use whatever hero , nothing makes you wins,

[@joshuasusanto4258]

Reckon you should buy bloodlust axe, his life steal is pretty awesome in the Laning phases & mid game.

[@starstrike1953]

Can you try Odette?

[@konzzapmc8366]

In lower ranks objective and mecro plays doesn't exist ur team combo will sometimes be full mm 3hypers etc and you just have to carry the whole team 😂 that's why they don't use heroes like grock.

[@Dreadlord360]

It still does work ult flick to faster the ult in January 20, 2024?

[@aimanrosliofficial]

For sure.

[@lordjuliusnunez2200]

Elgin try Yu Zhong Next

[@christhecat2915]

i have an epic skin of him

[@jeffrycerillo483]

Does everyone didn't noticed that elgins intro's is smooth transition

[@fokjiachung1879]

Now the reason why Grock is not used by the lower ranks because the public players always think Zilong and Chou damage is good in exp lane.. where tanks should go roam

[@abcdefghijklmnopqrstuvwxyz8788]

I will still use damage grock with dire hit in lower ranks because I don't trust my teammates

[@BlackFromWish]

0:58 Ayo johnson is sus that he wanted a kiss

[@ahmedsachwani2868]

I have a few questions about this build, why hunter strike? Also why sea halbeard cause grock basic attack is insanely slow, wouldn’t it be better to use dom ice instead?

[@zackzoom8779]

sea halberd has 80 physical attack which is very good for grock because of his 1st skill extra physical scaling.

[@ahmedsachwani2868]

@@zackzoom8779 well yeah but unless you do a basic attack enemy won’t have antiheal and can regen, 1st skill doesn’t count as basic attack and his basic attack is super slow, you’d get xx before you’d even get the chance to put antiheal on enemy

[@zackzoom8779]

@@ahmedsachwani2868 Oh you didn't know that sea halberd antiheal can also be applied by skills too?

[@enigmaenigma1722]

High and dry or weapon mastery for exp grock? And explain your choice

[@JohnRossOfficialYT]

Next Grock Jungler with damage build HAHA

[@devilboy9873]

Next Karrie pls😎

[@sadkillerqueen3701]

Elgin can u make aldous a one shot build video please i wana buy aldous

[@KleinArreglado-ob8dy]

Bro the johnson got the move

[@junpei4401]

I've played Grock one time and I felt really useless. Despite having so much assists, I still never understood how I'm supposed to play him. It would be nice though if he can remove his wall like Badang. I don't know if that's OP. 😅

[@zackzoom8779]

Not op, but a much needed adjustment.

[@AI_ART_MASTER]

There is a new update in advance server they brought back the new emblem system

[@haguetroller8554]

Hilda roam is also papularised by m4

[@melocampo9084]

I think its better to use high n dry or weapon master when using grock in side lane.

[@melocampo9084]

@Leonhard Euler common sense bro.

[@jeffmismilling8190]

Why no baleriks pick on tournament?

[@jenjenhocho3188]

For Exp Grock, I like Bloody Axe more than Hunter Strike as the first item. But maybe that's just my solo player bias.

[@Abominable_Intelligences]

Our Roam

[@baileyvalbuena3846]

Hahhaa i was laughing about the enemy turrets still being complete and still can be used in their next game 🤣🤣🤣

[@Laphoiofficial]

Grock

[@ArrLuu28]

well I want to see Dyrroth in next video

[@multatuli1]

Yo guys I can't find "manage resources" menu, it's not released yet?? Edit: Nevermind guys it's my server problem, moonton already gave magic dust as compensation in my inbox 😂

[@ytrbsa]

Its for phone under 16gb rom

[@JonesGabriel0226]

it's not released yet

[@JonesGabriel0226]

wait until the next update patch will come in official server

[@multatuli1]

​@@ytrbsa I had 4GB ram not checking the ROM yet

[@multatuli1]

​@@JonesGabriel0226 update on new season or soon in the next update? Thank you for replying

[@sofiabeatricebayocot]

@Elgin I heard Chou is getting revamped I think his new look will finally get him a girlfrend😆

[@dalcross1857]

Reason: High damage and cc immune

[@twilight1599]

How good are the professional players compared to high mythic players. Let's say +800 points?