The Guiding Light - March 5, 1979

[@tom-ks6hz]

GL and all it’s actors should have swept the Emmy awards. They were incredible. The show was so well written, acted and produced. I so miss this classic show.

[@VickySwindoll]

Me too!

[@michaelnelson1128]

Nah one life to live had the best acting ever!! 11 emmys for lead actress

[@johnodonnell5474]

I remember this episode, so powerful. Long Live The Guiding Light

[@simonepunzo4890]

GL was great in this era 80s. After has been a desaster. But i prefer ATWT

[@rosebutler3685]

The music makes me so nostalgic. Had a toddler and a baby on the way. Watched this every afternoon rocking by baby.

[@freemangriffin4953]

Michael and Maureen give superb and frightening performances in this episode and this storyline. GL didn't get any acting Emmy nominations until 1984 so they missed out on deserved nominations in 1980. So great to see this!

[@islezeus]

Really? So in general which soaps received nominations during the 70s?

[@soulshaker9018]

Maureen??

[@freemangriffin4953]

@@soulshaker9018 Maureen Garrett, the actress who played Holly.

[@soulshaker9018]

@@freemangriffin4953 ohhh okay. I kept thinking , that Maureen character wasn't on the show yet ! 😆 Lol!

[@guykite8110]

Indeed they did..It came to them later two years in a row.. Winning outstanding daytime drama😁😁

[@jamessullivan1714]

Amazing work by everybody the actors the writers the producer etc. What a great show it was during this time. I can see why it eventually won an Emmy as Best Daytime Drama.

[@vincentlara4563]

What a treat it is seeing these vintage episodes of the soaps from the golden era of daytime soap operas, the late 1960's to the early 1980's. Thank you so very much again Mr. Sanchez, your work is so appreciated. Christopher Berneau, Michael Zaslow and so many others were brilliant. This was the day that NBC expanded Another World to 90 minutes and had some heavy storylines going on as well (I believe the death of Janice Frame by Rachel Cory). And of course on ABC General Hospital was the number one soap at that time. But again, being that this was the golden age of soaps (IMO) Guiding Light, Another World and General (all sharing the same time slot (more less with AW being 90 minutes) each still had brilliant actors and excellent writers, directors, etc. What few daytime soaps we have left today are garbage. Thanks again Edwyn!!

[@EdwynNSanchez]

No problem! I am always happy to share this type of content… especially rare episodes. I hope that you keep enjoying what I share! - Edwyn!

[@baconbap]

Eerie that violent first scene then the beautiful opening music.

[@Laura-tp8wz]

My mom got me hooked on this. Thank you!!

[@dianemcadamsmsdianepetrama464]

I remember watching this episode with my mom and younger sister. I was 12 and a half years old. I was going to be 13, my birthday was May 23.❤️❤️❤️

[@adriannegrillo8394]

Thank you for these wonderful memories! I loved the 70's era the best!!

[@markc-ru4qz]

I didn't start watching until 1981 but it was so good back then!

[@mariellclement8092]

Cindy Pickett is rocking that Pixie cut. Sooo Pat Benatar.

[@duranddavis7710]

It’s weird seeing this again with grown up eyes. The slowness of the program and having real conversations.

[@stewiegriffinfan1986]

I wasn't even alive when this aired, but in a nostalgic sense, it was difficult to watch and I'm glad that Guiding Light did such a wonderful job for not romanticizing the relationship between Roger and Holly. What GL did was groundbreaking showing marital r@p3 and brought awareness of it into the light (no pun intended) unlike the Luke and Laura mess on GH (which happened around the same time) that spawned a phenomenon, but that's a story all its own. Kudos to the late, great Michael Zaslow and Maureen Garrett for their powerful and frightening performances in this memorable episode. Glad you posted this, thanks for taking us on an amazing trip down Springfield memory lane! I have another super fun and interesting Sanchez/Caputo (S.A.U.) related question for you. Would you love to see/hear "Quest"'s Caroline Larson (the African-American niece of Bernadette and cousin of Heather) pass for white in nod to the groundbreaking Carla Gray storyline from the early days of OLTL?

[@EdwynNSanchez]

I'm going to have to think about whether or not to add that scenario to our "Quest" bible, but I hope that I do get to decide to give it a green light because there is a slight chance that it can work sans the need to copy what OLTL did with Carla Gray.

[@christopherslappey1681]

@@EdwynNSanchez This Was GUIDING LIGHT'S First Marital Rape.

[@jeffreyharnden7523]

Thank you Terrell I'm glad that I'm not the only one calling it the Luke and Laura mess on GH. I don't know about you but soaps in general should all stay away from doing rape stories the young and the restless teased us by doing some stupid rape story involving Paul I think back in the 90s or early 2000s it was a did he or didn't he nonsense story but everytime I bring up the Luke and Laura rape thing GH fans in the comment board always come to his defense as for not getting the writing nomination its always the better shows that get disrespected guiding light as the world turns another world and search for tomorrow among the few soaps that I truly loved were the better ones but yet never got the true recognition that they all deserved now they are all gone and the four that are left although I do watch them sometimes they will never even have the class that those other soaps especially GL. and AW. Had never there storytelling was a home run. Thanks for your comment it's always good to know that I'm not the only one that thinks that rape is not romantic .

[@VickySwindoll]

I started watching gl when I was in high school. My favorite soap! I continued to watch until the end of the show. I was so upset when it ended 😔

[@mariellclement8092]

That flashback scene with Hillary was heartbreaking. The hurt on her face. OMG!

[@JJ-um5ec]

Great show , too bad the networks have abandoned quality programming

[@edgeof1956]

This was when GL was soooooooo good!! To me after GL changed this theme to that disco theme: it went downhill!!

[@thexxit]

The scene with Roger and Holly is epic and so important to open the conversation of domestic abuse and marital rape. The acting was absolutely superb.

[@paulvoorhies8821]

I love the title of this episode: CERTAIN RIGHTS.

[@deloreswillis9224]

Omgoodess!!!ROGER WAS INSANEEE!!!!!!!!!

[@moorek1967]

I remember this. I was 12 years-old at the time.

[@guykite8110]

Thanks so much for this look at Guiding Light..The Holly rape scene was probably the first marriage rape in daytime TV! And how Michael looked directly in the camera was ground breaking! Thanks so much😁

[@jeremyberman7808]

GH aired the rape of Audrey by her husband Tom Baldwin around ten years earlier. Very painful to watch nevertheless.

[@marcelparker6755]

Not really. Dr. John Dixon raped Kim Hughes on ATWT when they were married, and Audrey Hardy had the same thing happen to her when she was married to Tom Baldwin on GH. Holly was the first to press charges.

[@egirl622]

I remember my grandmother being shocked by the violence of the scenes with Roger and Holly. She also described Roger as a "psychopath." This kind of stuff was not on afternoon television at the time. It really upset her. But she remained a loyal GL fan until the end of her life.

[@dovasi]

Wow! What a treat! Thank you!

[@baconbap]

I loved Amanda.

[@oppziggy]

The thing with GL was they didn't hire the pretty people all the time. They hired those who could act and not just for looKs. This is why GL was what it was!

[@tom-ks6hz]

When GL was amazing and classic. So sad it turned into the Lewis Hillbilly show with overused Reva

[@JozarS.-ol4fj]

That's right. And that's why GL has completely ditched their original core families (Bauer families) in favor of very overused Josh Lewis and Reva Shayne Lewis and family. And as a result, Y&R, GL's 'sister soap' and CBS stablemate, also completely ditched their two original core families (the wealthy Brooks family and the working-class Foster family) in favor of all rich families (Newman, Abbott, Winters, Chancellor) and even Victor and Nikki Newman. The fate of Y&R and GL would also be followed by OLTL in ditching the Lord family in exchange for Buchanan and Manning families and GH in ditching doctors and nurses in exchange for Quartermaine, Spencer, Cassadine families and the very mobster Corinthos family, Luke and Laura Spencer, and Sonny and Carly Corinthos. All unlike ATWT, B&B, AW, and DAYS which they all retain their original core families despite the passing from old generation to new generation.

[@paulvoorhies8821]

Top 5 GL episodes of all time.

[@mariellclement8092]

That slap scene, MZ really slapped MG. She was walking around with an actual black eye, so it made the situation more realistic. That Rat Roger gave Holly a mouse. Lol

[@Charlie-hl7jr]

Did he really!? I know she seemed to have a close off screen friendship with him but OMG I can’t imagine she would have appreciated that 😱

[@mariellclement8092]

@@Charlie-hl7jr The slap was accidental though. I think Zas' was really into the scene. You can hear the impact of the two slaps when they exchanged them. That black eye was real, no makeup.

[@JamesSavage-l4p]

1965 going up to 1984 the Best years. Great cast!!

[@MrCraigblaze]

Did Roger do that with Rita three years earlier too..!! And the network toned it down..?? Thanks for the upload !! I LOVED the ORIGINAL Alan Spaulding !! Who played the original Philip??

[@EdwynNSanchez]

I believe it was Jarrod Ross.

[@jeffreyharnden7523]

Victor Newman from the young and the restless is a very very bad ripoff of Alan Spaulding from the much better guiding light sorry restless but there is only one Alan Spaulding Chris was such a great actor and even today he is missed

[@darnellanders8768]

Oh yeah I was tuned into that back in the fall of 1978 october when he first raped Rita. It happened after the partial guiding light 1978 with Rita who met Ed in New York to surprise him. That is also on KZbin as well. Rita was the happiest I ever saw her.. When they returned Roger confronted Rita upset that Peggy left him over his involment with Rita during the Ranger trial. He was blaming Rita because he testified at the trial giving her an aliby.. He told Peggy he was once involved with Rita while dating her ..Roger visited Rita at her apartment whike Ed was out of town and he got upset when Rita told him he wasn't half the man Ed was. So he raped and roughed her up. Her bruises went away with make up days before Ed returned. Rita kept mum about it feeling nothing but shame and guilt. Rita never told Ed until the day before the verdict in Holly's trail was due in. Rita almost yelled it out at the trail but she she still said nothing. SHe just yelled out that he was a liar when he said that he and Rita were friends while on the stand. Hed had brought up testifying on Rita's behalf in the ranger trail. Although Rita went on to marry Ed in December slightly before Roger married Holly in late January Rita always felt if she had told Holly about what Roger did to her she would not have married him. So the guilt and shame is what destroyed her marriage to Ed. Rita went on to have a one nighter and became pregnant not knowing who the father was. The baby turned out to be Ed's but Rita lost the baby boy after being kidnapped by Roger who left her tied up as he eluded the police. Rita trying to escape accidentally kicked over a lantern causing the cabin to catch a blaze. They saved Rita just in time but it was to late for the baby. I always thought Rita would redeem herself with Ed by perhaps having another baby but she then foolishly got involved with the ruthless Alan Spaulding. Rita was just to restless and never appreciative of a great man like Ed the great Doctor Bauer.. She through it all away behind her insecurities ..

[@marcelparker6755]

Roger did the same to Rita months before this.

[@ingridschier1771]

Schade ich würde die Sendung noch mal gerne sehen

[@EdwynNSanchez]

Tun wir das nicht alle?! Es ist in der Tat schade, dass wir solche Shows nicht mehr haben.

[@ingeschleiden3435]

Das würde ich auch sehr gerne ❤ ich habe es von 1980 bis 99 geschaut. Ich erinnere mich noch, dass es sogar eine Art Telefonhotline gab um Kurzinfos zur nächsten Folge zu bekommen 😅

[@davidbrunson3219]

Gosh I wish you had AMC that went back that far...that was my show! It always left me wanting more! I loved the opening theme where the music box plays a lullaby and the hand flips over the cover of the photo album! Great daytime when it ruled...I couldn't even tell you what appears in the daytime media..I'm too afraid to find out. Guess I got my memories!

[@EdwynNSanchez]

Oh my, oh my! I wish that I could get my hands on some AMC from this/that time. The opening really brings in a lot of memories.

[@mariellclement8092]

There are some great episodes of AMC from the early 1980s. I also found a few episodes from 1978 to 1979. Although I loved AMC, Guiding Light was my "Forever Soap Opera. "

[@davidbrunson3219]

@@mariellclement8092 really? do you know the name of the channel so i can find them? I would so love to see those shows. thank you.

[@EdwynNSanchez]

@davidbrunson3219 - there’s one called @i heart all my children

[@davidbrunson3219]

@@EdwynNSanchez thnx i'll try that.

[@Avatar610]

Do you have Lucille Wexler’s death scene with Jennifer Richards?

[@EdwynNSanchez]

I'm sorry to say that I don’t have it.

[@MrRemark21]

When this was aired on CBS daytime, it was the first telecast of NBC daytime’s “Password Plus” at 11:00am P/M/C; 12:00noon E, “Hollywood Squares” at 11:30am P/M/C; 12:30pm E, “Days of our Lives” at 12:00noon P/M/C; 1:00pm E (1:00), “Doctors” at 1:00pm P/M/C; 2:00pm E, “Another World” at 1:30pm P/M/C; 2:30pm E (1:30). On ABC daytime’s “Family Feud”, the goal was increased to 300 to win the game. Don’t forget, this was also my babysitter night with my retro babysitter Andrea Munns (before Guillaume) (age 16).

[@a.b.sproductionsllc]

This episode aired when Proctor and Gamble rolled out some heavy duty storylines on the 3 networks. CBS- “Guiding Light” Holly’s rape. NBC- “Another World” expands to 90 mins and John Randolph’s death ABC- “Edge of Night” Winter shoots and kills Wade Meecham.

[@tnate6004]

The day this aired was also the day the first 90-minute episode of Another World was broadcast. Wonder if GL timed the episode as a counterprogramming strategy?

[@callicordova4066]

The ladies were heavy on the blusher in those days.

[@paulvoorhies8821]

Back then, soap actors actually rehearsed their scenes. That stopped by the early to mid 80s.

[@mthivier]

Robert Milli and Michael Zaslow were extremely believable as father and son. Zaslow actually looked like he could have been Milli's son.

[@Levent-yb8sx]

❤

[@NathanWhiteside-gb2bd]

I have always watched the Guiding Light. Roger Thorpe was a horribly disturbed character . They don't have a that anymore. They don't have that anymore,!😮

[@paulvoorhies8821]

Lucille is such a freak.

[@paulgrimaldi1751]

The soaps were richer back then with their bigger audience and Budgets.

[@JJ-um5ec]

Lucille was so evil!

[@ksagg2008]

This is wonderful. Love the "headslate" at the very beginning. Do you have any episodes from 1983: June thru August, and 1984: Sept thru October? Thx

[@EdwynNSanchez]

No problem, I'm happy that you enjoyed this! At this time, the only episodes I have left of this show are from 1992 and 1993.

[@mariellclement8092]

Yeah, that was cool. Seeing the actors get into character, before "Action." I saw a couple of them start that way.

[@mariellclement8092]

That was so cool. Everybody's out of character until that slate claps. Very cool.

[@Nunofurdambiznez]

Would have been nice if they'd give Amanda a piano that was in tune!

[@danielmorse4213]

So long ago

[@larkatmic]

No wonder no one is getting married anymore, or having kids.

[@erickanew]

I was 5 or 6. Lol. Can't believe I actually watched this, but I did because I remember the Roger Thorpe rape thing

[@LoveandWar68]

Back when they made spousal abuse normal.

[@WolfModig]

Chris Bernau was the definitive Alan, Ron Raines was a horrible recast

[@JudyinAL]

Roger was the worst.

[@JamesSavage-l4p]

Too much time given for a bad character.

[@booberry349]

Roger Thorpe and the first Alan Spaulding I still prefer Ron Raines better

[@carmenvitale855]

Surprised that this soap stayed on TV against General hospital which was power house back then

[@EdwynNSanchez]

If this soap was still on TV today, it would've actually turned 70 in TV years. If we include it's years on radio, the show, in total broadcast history, would’ve actually turned 85. That would made GL still beat GH by many more years. How'd you respond to that?!

[@carmenvitale855]

@EdwynNSanchez but it's not on and Gh still is 60 years in April Gl never made it to 60 all im saying to Gh and ABC soaps were rocking back in 1979 everyone watched and Gl wasn't that good

[@EdwynNSanchez]

@@carmenvitale855 - No worries. I understand that. Now I really wish that I was around at that time.

[@carmenvitale855]

@EdwynNSanchez I was 6 years old and my mom & Grandma were fans of ABC soaps they watched all of them

[@kiba4687]

​@@carmenvitale855same! Exactly.. and I was 6 too!!