the guy who probably invented math rock

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Did anyone ever meet this guy?!

[@yvetteyoungmusic]

Straight up though 😂😂😂

[@mikecole4489]

Well well well look who we have here

[@JersAltAccount]

Steps to play math rock: 1. Get a guitar 2. Learn every Covet song in existence Jokes aside, thanks for sharing such incredible music with us, Yvette! I just began listening to you a few months ago, and I simply don't have words to describe how your music makes me feel. It's truly amazing. Thanks again, and have a great day! God bless!

[@beatfromjetsetradio8239]

I mean, it’s the truth… Also: *UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND* *UNDERSTAND UNDERSTAND…*

[@jpc2142]

I love you! I love playing shibuya and parachute. very fun to play on guitar 🎸 😍😍

[@Hoclyd]

omg yvette

[@Anaxistratus]

Disappointed that he didn't literally use mathematics to write a guitar riff, thus creating math rock.

[@thc_freebaser]

every riff you make you *technically* use mathematics to write out.

[@mhm6]

@@thc_freebaser the only math that goes into music is counting. The most basic component of mathematics.

[@johnmeow2919]

@@mhm6 Count to infinity if its so easy!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[@onesyphorus]

we'll leave that to rudy

[@mhm6]

@@johnmeow2919 I’ve been in the process since 2003

[@Crotiont]

I like how this video is called “the guy who probably invented math rock” and not “probably the guy who invented math rock”, implying that Mike knew this guy and could only assume that he invented math rock based on his personality lol

[@GymnopedieTornado]

yeah dude, it’s heinrich

[@TheOnlyCathyCat]

Thanks for explaining the joke. Can you explain the one about the chicken and his decision to preambulate towards the other side of the street?

[@ace-smith]

@@TheOnlyCathyCat are you an automated reply or something

[@JT8fvhiut769yhouyhoiu]

@@TheOnlyCathyCat remember kids every time you explain something youll always get a smartass who acts like they completely understood it from the get-go and calls everyone else stupid for not getting it due to an insecurity of which nobody would even see without the reply in the first place

[@snurky3478]

@@TheOnlyCathyCat IM SOBBING

[@j-mo2453]

There are claims that Pythagoras lesser known geometric theorems included formulas applying to music and the only reason they failed was scales that became popularized standards that deviated from numerical order without logic. A prominent lute player disagreed and was able to rock the panties off the oracle at Delphi using only the pentatonic scale and in turn in 515 bc started a revolt among the thousands of bards hoping to get gigs and get laid and Pythagoras went back to less socially volatile applied mechanics and descriptive geometry. Thank goodness. Lol

[@TJjjjjjjjjjj]

Hey everyone I found the virgin

[@zeropainmedia]

huh 😂

[@cardfreak0560]

Dude, that's some serious writing creativity. You should look into honing that craft!

[@joshy5677]

Guys we are living in the end times rn Jesus can return anytime soon. SO PLEASE TURN TO THE LORD He's waiting and Loves you very much ✝️

[@hispanoschizo6707]

I'm calling the cops

[@viscountrainbows6452]

*drops guitar down a flight of stairs* Math rock guitarists: WRITE THAT DOWN AND RECORD IT.

[@Jack_Rivet]

A friend of mine once posted a tab of a Dillinger Escape Plan song and it was basically "Set washing machine on Warm Cycle and throw in five pieces of cutlery and three running shoes"

[@danbull]

Heinrich went on to start an instagram page

[@oreo624]

He indeed did

[@SJLuis]

I am happy to see an influential rapper from my teens here

[@jhypyro]

ok verified

[@mebibyte9347]

Loved this so much. Yvette for sure is a massive inspiration to me, I love her attitude towards music and her story. There's an interview in which she described her background in competitive classical piano, and when she learned the guitar it was an opportunity to escape that culture of "who's better at being technically the best"

[@theothertonydutch]

Yeah, but now she's technically the best and I'm here with 10 years of guitar experience basically doing the 4 chords lol. (btw not knocking Yvette, she's literally the best)

[@noname-bu1ux]

Yoo Yvette Young is also a huge inspiration to me

[@moustachio334]

Yet her style has been around since even before Stu Hamm. Math rock is what weaboos call Asians playing guitars.

[@OM-et4qj]

@@moustachio334 What? Is that a meme? Because as far as i know, she's only following onto the steps of others before her.

[@Deetroiter]

The thing that bothers me about that is they're typically all competing to see who the best cover artist is. Tell me I'm wrong 9 out of 10 professional classical musician spent their entire lives practicing someone else's songs and they get paid to play covers. I'd be tired of The Who's better game, as well.

[@patrickgambill9326]

Legend says Heinrich started a band called Slint in the late 80s

[@teethgrinder83]

And his younger cousin went on to play in Don Caballero lol

[@sacredxgeometry]

Crazy how Yvette Young is such a household name. I remember like 10 years ago she'd just post pics or videos of her cat, or piano. Or sing on her acoustic guitar. I mean she still does this stuff but wow. So sick!

[@Sarahstearsdandelionseeds]

im so proud of her

[@bepisthebenis5111]

I have no freakin clue who that is

[@quetzalcoatl8167]

@@bepisthebenis5111look her up dude she’s crazy good

[@duckman2430]

I get to see her live in just a few days and I'm so happy, she's one of my favourite guitarists she's so good

[@cola5323]

@@quetzalcoatl8167yesss

[@jthewoodcrafter]

I love your sense of musician humor, I have found it to very healing in a time when I think the world has gone crazy. You’ve brought a sense of peace to my soul!

[@jordanpreexisting224]

I about spit my soda out @“He only followed Yvette Young!!” Covet rocks!!

[@harveymoment]

Seeing them in London next week! All i can think about

[@SlashyJ]

That made me laugh, too.

[@gtrriffs]

She is a great guitarist... and pianist too🤟

[@icedragon9097]

I saw covet in leeds a few days ago. They tried to keep a moshpit going for the entire set. It was weird

[@mishab4065]

Real tho

[@KevinJennissen]

Mike, you are a hard-working man with a ton of ideas. Keep at it!

[@earthstrong-43.72]

You're hilarious and amazing, bro. Please keep em' coming! Cheers, mate!

[@0mn1prism59]

Looks like the desire to break the mold turned into something he Never Meant

[@auberginedreams00]

“I’m a blues and jazz CAT” lmao

[@LetsTalkAboutMathRock]

This is golden! That ending 😂

[@William92304]

Heinrich has such enthusiasm for his movement!

[@guitargod7843]

Tim Henson moment

[@aolien2739]

Tim literally plays in nothing but 4/4 I really don't understand why anyone calls him a math rock guitarist

[@makkerfelix]

@@aolien2739 yeah hes not math rock, idk what genre is does play tho

[@dentaphon]

Polyphia isn't math rock

[@xolot23]

I cracked up at the Yvette Young comment at the end lol this man is a genius

[@erikceja963]

“He shed his blazer” lmaoo

[@XX-tw9rr]

Feel like there’s been a trend of using math rock and Midwest emo interchangeably

[@chriskleps7253]

I'll believe this once I see a trend of "math rock intros be like..." on KZbin

[@mickidoesmedia]

Likely due to how a lot of Midwest Emo bands were inspired by early Math Rock. Capn Jazz was probably the first to mix early midwest emo and early math rock into one cohesive sound, before that bands like Slint, Don Caballero, and others were distinctly different than your Mineral, Sunny Day Real Estate, and such.

[@Marinecreature]

@@mickidoesmedia can't argue with this. People got a bit fed up with it so started that 'Dark Chaotic Math Rock' group where the original gnarly, less formulaic math/weirdass heads could kick back against that. It's all good but the twinkly stuff is getting waaay repetitive. And not very mathy tbh.

[@zeromath20]

Now we need one on how blues rock was invented

[@xRickAstleyx]

some pale kids in britain bought a bunch of obscure discounted blues records from the states, and then everyone just kinda went HAM on it

[@firdauszainudin7118]

well, we need to ask Elvis’s friends

[@alexstrand2440]

This was hilarious. Great job. Looking forward to watching other videos.

[@gramble968]

Fun fact math rock actually evolved from hardcore with bands like drive like jehu and got rid of the hardcore roots into the sound we know today

[@cxkxr1212]

yeah, my theory is it stems from emo/midwest/hxc. there were always some small segments of math-esque parts in that genre, and ppl liked those parts so much bands started to make entire songs around it.

[@mr.philosophy]

Drive like jehu!

[@Takealiltripnsee]

King crimson anyone? Like hello

[@gramble968]

@@Takealiltripnsee They're progressive like pink floyd, but definitely helped with creating the genre

[@Takealiltripnsee]

@@gramble968 like pink Floyd? Not sure you have listened to them thoroughly.

[@eddyspecter]

I thought the band Polvo started math rock in the early 90's?

[@mickidoesmedia]

Slint predated them by a decade, but generally Don Caballero and Polvo did refine the ideas at the time.

[@tramlad2]

Love it mate superb, all done with great humour, and some excellent playing

[@francischang]

At first, I thought you were funny but your channel didn't have staying power. But now? Now I am a believer.

[@SaladDongs]

the guy who probably invented math rock: "um... my name is Yvette and I play guitar in a band called Covet. Uh, today I'm gonna be performing one of our songs called Shibuya for you..."

[@Neion8]

Yvette is a guy? Damn, so this is how I find out I'm gay...

[@daskmorn]

True but also Heinrich, if ever asked, will ramble on for about 8 bars about how Discipline by King Crimson is the only song to ever exist (he learned of this song 4 years after he started playing math Rock)

[@SolamenteVees]

Mike- Slint is from Kentucky.

[@jasonfrost9229]

Seriously, it's time we talk about you putting out a video of you just jamming. We know you've got skills. Let us hear!

[@danielsmith5262]

No he doesn’t have skill otherwise he’d have posted longer videos of his skill

[@AtRugaa]

@@danielsmith5262 orrr maybe it's just not the content he wants to make

[@telesticTroublemaker]

As someone stranded in Ohio, i can confirm heimrich's existence.

[@chobi4576]

I didn't know Cookie from Ned's Declassified invented math rock wow!

[@vexedpixels]

as a math rock guitarist i approve lmao

[@johnmcnair1550]

You forgot the capo!

[@pwincessiris]

And then along came Dillinger Escape Plan

[@oBarbinha]

The acting, ABSOLUTE CINEMA.

[@TeamPaidToDrive]

Always a strat to the tele 😂

[@ty_teynium]

This is like a very short, sober episode of Drunk History. Thank you!

[@williampamblanco]

The Heinrich interventions and IG quip at the end were just brilliant!😂

[@yeahnahmate1611]

Math Rock was created by King Crimson on their song Frame By Frame of off the 1981 album Discipline. Before that you could hear a very primitive concept of math rock riffs by Gentle Giant on songs like Cogs In Cogs, Knots, and the 1975 live version of Features From Octopus.

[@TheSquareOnes]

That's not really how genres work, especially not when it comes to extremely nebulous ones like math rock. King Crimson was certainly a huge influence, but so was the entire prog movement and you could cherry pick countless songs from that era that could be described as "just rocking in odd time signatures without too much other prog stuff going on." It wouldn't be until the late 80s and early 90s when a full wave of bands started to appear that we can reasonably identify the genre as its own thing and no individual band in that wave can get the credit for "creating" it since it's more a specific focus on old ideas than a new idea in itself.

[@Adyman182]

"He only followed Yvette Young..... and Ichika Nito"

[@Taeodoestech]

Tim/Mike Kinsella formed Cap’n Jazz in ‘89 Massacre’s Killing Time was released in ‘81 NoMeansNo was formed in ‘79 King Crimson’s Red was released in ‘74

[@ryank9910]

Funny 😂😅😂. You played that riff super clean!

[@RAY_Edits]

"In a galaxy far far away called OHIO" im dead

[@chloescat]

Awesome video. Thanks, dude. Hope you and your family are safe and well. ❤️

[@brandonkey181]

in the very first second of the video the squeak of his chair sounds like a minecraft ghast

[@zentheghoul]

very insightful .

[@whatburnsneverreturns]

I know I am gonna sound like a total "back in my day" person but I really do wish what happened to math rock didnt. Math Rock in the 2010s completely changed how it sounded. I miss when bands math rock was like bands like Don Caballero and now it just feels like every band sounds like polyphia and chon. I dont like it and I am fine with change in genres but it feels like this genre de-evolved instead of evolved.

[@Sarahstearsdandelionseeds]

you arent looking deep enough

[@whatburnsneverreturns]

@@Sarahstearsdandelionseedsgimme some recommendations then

[@whatburnsneverreturns]

@@Sarahstearsdandelionseeds day 2 of asking for the recommendations

[@whatburnsneverreturns]

@@Sarahstearsdandelionseeds When are you gonna give me some damn reccomendations... at this point i think your lying

[@prodbryson]

the "only followed yvette young" kills me 😂

[@kadrick4446]

If he lived in Florida, he would have made Meth Rock.

[@lt1951]

distinct lack of hypotenuses

[@VIRGILL21]

Thirteenth sound of Julian Carrillo

[@bert3840]

Steps to playing math rock: 1. Buy a tele 2. Buy pedals 3. Become hopelessly depressed and listen to American Football or Tiny Moving Parts to cope 4. Copy what they do

[@userAnonymous90123]

You mean Robert Fripp?

[@ZazzyGauss]

"Heinrich was a blues and jazz cat" "Im a blues and jazz cat" "But Heinrich was tired of the structure of blues and Jazz culture" "Im really tired of the structure of blues and jazz"

[@dissinyosandwich7548]

Heinrich being a former blues/jazz cat makes a lot of sense since math rock is basically jazz for white teens in beanies and flannel shirts.

[@tohansmith]

the best math rock comes from japan

[@Johnkiernanmusic]

He only followed Yvette Young. 😂😂

[@Shadowmonkey]

I hate how much the internet rotted my brain that the mere mention of Ohio almost got a giggle out of me, lmfao

[@Indianadixon]

Really nice playing, and then the two title cards at the end GOT ME hahahahahhahaha

[@ExpiredPork]

Impossible! Nothing good has ever come from Ohio 😤

[@superflysoulbrother]

@@iancaspers7731 Hey, come on guys

[@WarrenPostma]

Over the Rhine is from Ohio.

[@mariesyvian8187]

@@WarrenPostma based

[@franciscovega2042]

Damn you Heinrich!

[@MFBOOM___]

Thank you Heinrich

[@hoagietime1]

I heard it happened when there were cut backs at a small Midwestern liberal arts college. They had to combine the geology, music and math departments then poof... American Football

[@jamiebruner8463]

"He shed his blazer" fuckin, dude, LOL

[@darbyparkermusic]

the end had me rolling LMAOOO this is great

[@merrick1384]

as a math rock fan this killed me

[@WiloPolis03]

This sounds more like the origin of shoegaze

[@tubewanderer5721]

The Heinrich maneuver

[@skzafir721]

0:24 Man's a different kind of species to be bored of jazz's structure...

[@markrohrbaugh1825]

Allen Holdsworth is pretty much the complicated version of prog rock today. Rip Allen

[@Giga1337]

Is it me or the sound of this video is quite low? Enough to hear but goddamn man had to crank my speakers all the way up

[@weirdLEXbutok]

everybody gangsta until heinrich trades his strap for a telly

[@yungmilkcarton]

don’t forget the compressor lmao

[@Zerophoenix1]

once i was a party that yvette young showed up at. a house show out in san bernardino county probably almost 10 years ago now. i was too drunk though about to throw up in the backyard when she arrived so i was unable to say hi DX still haunts me to this day. great show tho XD still a big fan of covet

[@Kittletothemoon]

ok but now i want the full song please sir 😁

[@tobyreinhardt9022]

Damn you Heinrich!!

[@AnusDiscors]

A Blue and Jazz Cat!

[@Noizzed]

he sounds like the background to some lofi song that's about to start just add the radio filter and you're good to go

[@Crunchy_Troll]

Still waiting on that Jazzmaster/Offset players be like video

[@RobertoReyesChHC]

lol I have a jazzmaster! I play(ed) Math Rock but now I play weird black metal/tech death/melodic hardcore. I have liked it since highschool (31 now) but honestly the fans / social media scene are the worst and the appeal of tapping wears off fast. There's more than one technique. They're like anime fans ahhahaha

[@ShepTheBep]

Thanks for telling us slint's backstory!

[@smashingpunkkids]

This lines up to the lore that I choose to believe is true... the difference in my lore is their names are Sam and Victor and they are from Chicago.

[@King_Cyn]

BUT also - "Hey there, Steve here" (:

[@HinataScarlet]

Oooohh! A story and a song?? Yes please! …aww man it was short

[@harrytaylor2479]

Traded the strat for teke oah nah what a rebel

[@samvaiphei8433]

that ending was nice, Yvette young is the best

[@MisanthropicMalice666]

Technical Death Metal is Calculus then

[@cwall1992]

Heinrich got stuck on those Mc Escher stairs after he was thrown into a portal by Pythagoras

[@danselzer]

You got the Ohio part right. Heinrich went to Oberlin where he met Bastro.

[@Caleb-DH]

Since this video I’ve been listening to math rock every single day

[@TheRealApricat]

You can’t just have your characters announce how they’re feeling. That makes me feel angry!

[@chaseeckel3538]

Lol he put on a ton of reverb 😂 I love it!

[@yomama317]

And he went to work lmao

[@Jose-ew7xg]

What in the algorithm is this??? I dont even play the guitar 😂😂😂

[@RikuAkimoto]

Nooooo why did you stop, that sounded soooo good

[@arrtwo1375]

This was the first thing on youtube to make me laugh in a very long time

[@guayagod]

Tyrus, the inventor

[@Redribbo]

what's next "Soda pop rock"? idk

[@lil_revive115]

I love your videos, man. 😂👌🏻 seriously, they make me laugh every single time 🤣😂🤣

[@EatnCereal]

“He only followed yvette” 😂