The Hailey Bieber x Selena Gomez Drama is CRAZY

The Hailey Bieber x Selena Gomez Drama is CRAZY - Hailey Baldwin Bieber and Selena Gomez have had some very public problems with each other due to both their relationships with Justin Bieber. Now with Selena Gomez coming out with a documentary and Hailey Bieber appearing on Call Her Daddy to talk about Justin Bieber and Selena, it was time to look at a thread of the drama.
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[@chatchalitaklatalumbon9542]

I can't wait for Selena's documentary to be all about herself and not mention anything about Hailey and Justin.

[@sophien5416]

Yeah I'm so curious if the producers will make edits after this interview.

[@jikaarthou]

I was thinking same thing

[@11falloutgirl11]

This☝🏼

[@brokenbylana]

Apparently she's gonna talk about the drugs she did with Justin. That's what exposingsmg said but who knows

[@Anna-dw2vp]

@@brokenbylana exposingsmg needs to get a life

[@ayamavrenim]

I never imagined all of this. I thought the hate towards Hailey was just teens being hateful, but I see now that Selena has been harassed by this individual for way too long!

[@karenkhiangte9366]

Harassed!!!??? When ???where???

[@greenlibertea5394]

The fact that hailey has so much stalking proof is hella sus

[@lillysommers8828]

Cyber stalker and irl stalker is a different thing and you would be lying if you say you never stalked someone on social media

[@KJ-mn3zz]

@@lillysommers8828 hailey bieber is a real life stalker tho

[@sophien5416]

@@lillysommers8828 yeah but how many normal people do this? Like all of my friends know a little about celebrity gossip but no one goes to this level of celebrity/influencer stalking. It's odd behaviour. And when you consider that they were supposed to be friends at one point. It's very mean girlie.

[@C0C0CH4NEL]

No one is talking about Jelena anymore. I personally only hear Selena Gomez more everywhere ... because of TikToks, Rare beauty, Cooking show, Only murders in the building series, whole album in Spanish and her new Documentary soon. why does Hailey need to talk about her NOW. All of the sudden she has something to share...🙄

[@elchemangue1048]

Exactly!!

[@KL-pk7wu]

lol hailey has been harassed by selena fans for years just think back to the met gala red carpet when her fans shouted selena the entire time. You all acting like this doesn‘t happen is insane.....

[@KL-pk7wu]

Selena has the most toxic fandom i‘ ve ever seen and it‘s especially cringey when you consider that her fandom by now mostly consists of adults. Adults harassing hailey bieber is really cringey like dont you have a job or hobbies to care about😂

[@MissCaraMint]

She’s doing great in only murders in the building. Somehow she just work with Steve Martin and Martin Short. Not a combination I would have guessed, but worth watching.

[@annabanana730]

She finds excuses for everything. She said that the only reason people hate her is because they want Jelena, when people just think she's a cold hearted, mean-ass, ugly, and overconfident bitch... no heart, no brains. She thinks Selena is more popular only because she's been in the industry longer, when she's literally unlikeable, has no talent, and the only thing she's got going for her is her body and ass, which she basically flaunts for money. She's delusional.

[@dinajones2761]

Selena needs to get a restraining order at this point. Hailey is creepy

[@Saints4life]

Or should it be the opposite?

[@OMELHORDOFORRO-if5gy]

Very creepy

[@bellalily822]

Here's my thing Haley married him that's her husband why is she stalking Selena when Selena's moved? Selena has her own company, she is still making music, she has TV shows and movies seems like her life is put together while Haley's still stalking Selena. Seems like Haley needs to figure her self out and work out her relationship with her husband and stop stalking her husband's ex-girlfriend cuz Selena sure doesn't care about Justin.

[@mahogara]

I don't really follow anyone of them. Did she get with him right after he broke up with Selena? But anyways, she's got the man (if that's what mattered to her), so move on. Unless the husband keeps bringing up the ex in private (because we don't know what's going on bts), then like you've mentioned, talk it out with the husband. Why go after the ex who has clearly moved on. Even throwing shades at Selena when they were just dating is so bad (especially if Selena was not trying to come between the two of them). But I can understand she was young and probably insecured. Still it was her boyfriend who was not over her, talk to the boyfriend, don't go after the ex he is not over. I guess the fans from either side don't really help either. I still see people commenting, comparing her and Selena or how Selena and Bieber were so good together on some of Selena edits videos. Maybe that's why Haley couldn't let it go.

[@Martitaj0nes]

Bc she wants to be selena thats why she married him in the first place

[@k.h6267]

@@lightcoffee6160 did you even watch the video?🤣😂

[@bookishnatie9614]

Her mental health has been highly impacted by Hailey insecurities. Me I would just have married Justin and be the bitch that got the ring lol

[@Lillianac14]

@@lightcoffee6160 Then f off and don't comment

[@punkybrewstar83]

From my experience, if you are insecure about an ex within a relationship, it is because your partner, their family and their friends continue to talk about them and compare you. Yes- you need to leave that relationship, but I didn't know that then.

[@kaiauora]

But you also need to remember you’re not experiencing it as a celebrity who has eyes on them 24/7. The WORLD compares them bc the WORLD is watching them, most of the internet doesn’t even know you exist... Compared to their MILLIONS of fans and MILLIONS of followers… Your relationships arent broadcast for millions to see and compare like hers is. I doubt him or his family ever even mention selena. But i can bet you anything anytime she opens any social media she sees a shit ton of videos sayin Sel is better or they miss Jelena.

[@kaiauora]

Not saying their relationship is perfect it might be toxic but also your experience is irrelevant bc it is no where near the same as her EXTREMELY PUBLIC experience that has MILLIONS of people CURRENTLY watching and comparing her to her husbands ex

[@Martitaj0nes]

She was insecure abt selena way before they started dating so there goes your theory

[@cindychristie4327]

@@kaiauora famous or not, her experience is very valid to her. For you to say it's not isn't very nice.

[@kaiauora]

@@cindychristie4327 it’s valid im not saying it’s not. But for THIS conversation it is extremely irrelevant bc they wont ever understand what it’s like to have eyes on them 24/7 while dating one of the most famous pop stars out there… idgaf if it’s mean or not their experience is irrelevant here bc it’s no where near the same at all…

[@jadejknox]

Sounds like Justin is still hung up on Selena so Haley is trying to become her so he’ll forget about the real thing!

[@Aksfl440]

I never understood why people hated her so much. This all makes so much sense now. She has been really good at playing the victim for us outsiders

[@d2dag5]

Exactly!!!

[@karenkhiangte9366]

What do mean" playing victim"😂 she is a victim.

[@lamb9770]

you’re talking about selena right?

[@Aksfl440]

@@karenkhiangte9366 not really. She was following Selena hate accounts and making racist tweets against Mexicans during that time.

[@Aksfl440]

@@lamb9770 no

[@rr8339]

you forgot to add how hailey got gigi and kendall to fly selena out to dubai so she could hang with justin and then 2-3 months later justin and hailey started dating.

[@liesbeneathoureyes]

WHAT

[@itsmoniquee]

HUH

[@veromariac1]

WTF

[@kikip06]

Yes..Hailey's family went to justins house..theres a video of him licking her ears..There's a pic of him staring at hailey boobs.. And when kendal and gigi returned from dubai they hung out with hailey..posted it on social media and selena commented on it like "real quick" Hailey plotted so many things between justin and selena

[@Caallina]

VILE

[@julienotsmith7068]

Justin and Hailey deserve each other. I’m honestly glad that it took Justin off the market and permanently away from Selina who deserves infinitely better.

[@shawtygotlo1]

Using Selena’s makeup artist for her wedding made me physically cringe 😬

[@valentinenyarinda]

Hailey's wedding makeup artist was Dendoll and she isn't Selena's makeup artist

[@charlottemartin9174]

Hailey is so scary !! the time Hailey asked her friends to take selena on a girl trip so she can be alone with bieber

[@11falloutgirl11]

Exactly.

[@Noname-hs5lx]

Exactly

[@liesbeneathoureyes]

I just feel so bad for Selena in all this. That relationship destroyed her with all Justin’s cheating and lies, and when she had finally moved past it he came to draw her back in again when she was sick and vulnerable in hospital. Then immediately turned round and let her down AGAIN. Now his wife that he cheated with is stalking and obsessed with her. Smh

[@PrincessZaire100]

In my opinion, Selena has been the only one bringing it up for years. When she dropped “Lose you to Love Me” and then accused him of being emotionally abusive, and everyone sent hate Hailey’s way on both occasions. They were also off and on all the time, and Selena no longer wanted to be with him. Haiku had NOTHING to do with that relationship ending

[@yourbanhmi]

@@PrincessZaire100 i dont think that song was about Justin… ur just assuming.. the song could be about anyone & im pretty sure Selena dated a few men behind the scenes privately… :/

[@PrincessZaire100]

@@yourbanhmi “2 moons to replace me” she’s talking about Justin. It that song came out around the time that she accused him of being emotionally abusive. Every time it’s been brought hip, it’s been on her side, not Justin or Haileys

[@mojojojo1428]

@@PrincessZaire100 not every song has to be about someone specific. Don’t assume on your own.

[@rotisserie8444]

@@mojojojo1428 right but everyone still sent hate hailey and Justin’s way because they thought it was (which I’m 100 percent sure it is lmao)

[@michellecgb]

I've never been interested in this beef but this is definitely SUS behavior from Hailey. I wonder if JB talked shit about Selena in private and that's why Hailey went from liking her to low-key hating her as soon as she started to hang out with him.

[@pinguufuuuu]

Probably and also that selena was like his first real love so and she's a lot more talented than Hailey. Also the fact that once Hailey and JB broke up and he went straight back to Selena after she had broken up with the weeknd. I'm sure it was pretty easy to compare yourself to a much bigger and famous ex and feel insecure. I know I would be a little jealous and having a bit of imposter syndrome.

[@plutonium2]

ok so again this is scuttlebutt and rumours but the word is that Justin's PR forced him to break up with Selena and h to go to NA. Which in turn brought him to Christianity and then Hailey. People forget Hailey is a borderline fundie xtian. I don't think Justin had a lot of say in some of this.

[@monajora1733]

Hailey is soooo embarrassing, cannot move on from Selena after all these years

[@lil383]

they've (hailey and her team) definitely planned this. she has full control over that "interview," especially with a question so controversial. she has some kind of agenda, maybe some pre-damage control.

[@k.h6267]

Of course,why will they ask that question just before Selena's documentary.and when the interviewer asked a question she replied differently and that met gala scene 🤣😂

[@raaziaisaac2798]

@Lil. And that was not pre damage. She exposed the LIAR SHE IS IN THAT PODCAST INTERVIEW

[@viennaainsworth1085]

Lowkey feel like Haley was always Justin's "backup choice" and Haley was probably super insecure about it and projected most of it onto Selena, now Haley feels like she's "won" but is just still insecure/obsessed with/comparing herself to Selena. Which is sad, I hate seeing women hate each other (or in this case, just one woman hating another) over such petty shit like this. Also sucks if Justin is aware of this and not making her feel secure enough or helping her seek help to work though it... Also if they cheated together they're both trash

[@denicelopez2318]

I agree!! I think the real problem here is Justin Bieber and the way he strung them both around and emotionally abused them. Hopefully he is a better man now but for Hailey to be doing this all alone and not seeing her HUSBAND defend her while she is getting DRAGGED rn is really sad

[@alexandriamclain4978]

The man married her if that is not enough for her to feel secure then she should leave. Both women are beautiful, but one is just more successful that’s all.

[@sophien5416]

@@denicelopez2318 Exactly where is Justin Beiber in all this. Dang!

[@whims6278]

@@alexandriamclain4978 I don't think that being married magically invalidates insecurity

[@elsaelsa2213]

No she is not he loved her he propose to her he married her he still with her Selena is complainer she played victim but that is not case Justine loved hailey

[@shawtygotlo1]

I just think it’s wild that someone can put a ring on your finger & you’re still worried about an ex gf…using Selena’s makeup artist for her wedding made me physically cringe 😬

[@angelacasein7059]

Wow that’s too much lol

[@annakas788]

Did any of y’all watch the interview?? She’s not worried about Selena AT ALL. She’s talking about how she gets daily hate on everything she posts. Anons online bring up Selena constantly. She’s commenting on it now because it’s been 4 years and it still hasn’t stopped. She has a right to address it. Selena’s fans are so embarrassing. They make Selena look pathetic.

[@andreacardona7108]

I didn’t know that 😬

[@magdalenak.1685]

Where did you learn that from? I found that her Mua for the wedding was Denika Bedrossian. She does many celebrities, but Selena doesn't seem to be one of them

[@harbimidiyosunkanka]

@@annakas788 Not necessarily Selena fans but they are probably the OG Jelena fans from the early 2010s era. These people are after that nostalgia to feel like they are still in high school

[@crescentmoon2374]

The fact that hailey is inserting herself in the drama and bringing up the past right when Selena documentary is about to come out soon is really suspicious of haileys Bieber it like she want people by her side whatever Selena is going to show in her documentary. Even I’m starting to notice a pattern with hailey because when Selena post more on TikTok haileys would post more. And when Selena talked about mental health in the White House. Haileys right after wanted to talk about mental health and when Selena addressed her haters on TikTok hailey wanted to address her haters and now this. Even I’m starting to think the rumors about haileys stalking Selena is the truth.

[@whims6278]

I love Selena and how graceful she has been in handling the entire situation. I think Hailey has been jealous and insecure, but I can't blame her for that. I feel bad for them both, and how they've been pitted against each other (as society loves to do with women)

[@crystalsmith9038]

She’s been jealous of her since she was kid. That’s where taking everything away from her and wanting to be her comes from.

[@carmelacalleo9010]

Selena isn’t pitted against hailey, hailey is not on Selena’s level. All hailey will be known for is “Justin Beiber’s wife” no one gives a damn about her “Truth”

[@kyliepiserchio3582]

Yes it is sad but at the same time I feel Hailey denying that she didn’t get with Justin when he was with Selena because If it’s false then Selena would not have released perfect on revival and if you listen to the lyrics you can tell that she was being lied to and cheated on her

[@sophien5416]

@@kyliepiserchio3582 These people had their experiences and emotions and only they know. If Salena felt cheated on that's her valid feeling. But we obviously don't know the whole truth. I personally don't care about who stole who, and I detest that the narrative behind by Hailey receiving hate is because people think shes a homewrecker. This is not entirely the case. Hailey Haters come in different stripes, some not even being Salena fans. Some just despise Hailey cause of past racist tweets or how she's treated customer service people. Just wished she leave Salena out of the narrative and not clump all her fans as toxic. When we see these stalker threads, we're just worried of Salenas security and want her to just be left alone.

[@XiomaraThaGoddessMeow]

@@carmelacalleo9010 Chile, calm the hell down..... You're talking about human beings, here. There are no "levels".

[@lylaj1773]

idk why but every time i see hailey bieber and selena gomez news i always think of the time in 2018 when selena was hospitalized and paps caught hailey driving past her house to make sure she wasn’t lying😭

[@frumtheground]

Wtf? That's hella creepy if true. I Lupus like Selena does on top of a few other things. No one with chronic illness needs that shit. Especially when flares are triggered by stress!

[@VangelinaSkov]

Omg WHAT

[@shivanipde]

WHAT 😲

[@denise7530]

I remember this story. Selena was admitted to rehab, voluntarily, if I remember correctly. Then later that day Hailey was caught by the papz passing by her house then going to JB to comfort him because (allegedly) he was sad/upset that Selena had to go to rehab.

[@michellequintanilla3538]

Omg yeah!!!! I forgot about this, I saw the video somewhere on IG

[@ShallowApple22]

When you are constantly compared & competed against another woman at the level she is I can imagine it creates massive insecurities. It’s really sad she’s either hating on her or idolising her and as his wife I’m betting that’s confusing and creates lots of insecurities within herself. I hope she finds peace in herself

[@cherryflavoredplaylist753]

But she’s been doing this FOREVER, before hailey even met him she was shit talking Selena on twitter 😃

[@Ziploc-vg8oz]

Yes I feel like people keep criticizing hailey for still talking about this old drama but people honestly won’t let her forget it either

[@cherryflavoredplaylist753]

@@Ziploc-vg8oz yet no one ever seems to mention how Selena Gomez is also constantly being dragged for every little thing she does, still doesn’t mean it’s okay to be rude to somebody. As far as I know Selena has never so much as said an unkind thing about that woman, so what’s Hailey’s excuse? The whole thing is just so petty

[@crystalm3th573]

Tbh nobody is talking about how Justin probably shit talked about sel so much to Hailey that Hailey thinks sel was the toxic one, whilst Justin was the one constantly cheating on sel. I don’t think Hailey started hating on sel for no reason. Justin def had a huge role in it, he always seems to want sympathy points. And he constantly gets it,especially now that he has health complications.

[@nicolestewart2843]

Agreed. All I was thinking while listening to her break down the information presented was how no one really talks about how fast he proposed to her after he and Selena broke up the last time. No one except Selena of course. 🧀😎😉 "In two months you replaced us. ... Like it was easy." Ruthless and beautiful, as usual.

[@AllLifeIsTravesty]

I knew of the hate for Hayley but I figured it was just psycho stans obsessing over these rich strangers' private relationships, I didn't realize there might be legitimate tension going on there, thank you for opening up a new can of petty celeb drama for me, Vangelina.

[@issagarci2887]

I have heard throughout the years of hailey bber in particular going out of her way to make selenas life harder. I believe it was her Rare release album celebration they tweeted out about celebrating it and the location. Lo and behold here comes hailey with a friend. Its screams insecure and evil. Selena stays living in her mind rent free. Her behavior is simply fan behavior.

[@sophien5416]

Yep of all nights. That restaurant, really?

[@jikaarthou]

And she was playing song Yummy loud in the car when Sel was leaving

[@jikaarthou]

@SpookyRissa95 for real 🤣

[@Mads_L_M]

Imagine obsessing over your spouses ex from 4 years ago, stalking them, imitating their style, and then teasing about how you’re gonna make a public statement on possibly getting said spouse to cheat on the ex you’re obsessed with, with you. It’s honestly such absurd behavior, and like honestly for what, either it’s gonna be a he didn’t cheat, there was no overlap, or it’s yeah, he cheated on her with me, and then I married him. Like either she building up to something that could have been a tweet, instead of subtweeting Selena constantly, or it‘s her bragging about how they both caused what was likely a lot of pain for Selena, and on top of that they won’t just let her move on and be done with that chapter.

[@zettyhardi]

Talking about your husband ex in public is a very low class attitude

[@aandjay]

It's only been 4 years I thought it was 2016 6 years ago

[@Mads_L_M]

@@aandjay i didn’t remember when Justin and Selena last broke up, google told me 2018 so I went with that

[@aandjay]

@@Mads_L_M I know I just was saying I thought it was 2016 it seems they've been broken up longer

[@shawtygotlo1]

I just think it’s wild that someone can put a ring on your finger & you’re still worried about an ex gf 😬

[@mayocampos8113]

Hailey's pathetic

[@spenx09]

They asked her a straightforward, yes or no, question and she didn't just say: no, they were not a couple anymore or something? Totally sus

[@pinguufuuuu]

i thought the same. or that maybe she was sooo focused on just getting that statement out there she just completely missed the point of the question. feels a little blamey tbh.

[@halleyschae]

The interview comes out tomorrow, this was a preview so yes the question wasn’t answered bc they edited it out. It’s a trailer. Wait to see the full interview before forming opinions.

[@emmelou3271]

I thought exactly the same & to be honest if I was Hailey the topic of Selena would be a no go area for me in any interview she seems insecure like she knows Justin settled for 2nd best with her, I also wouldn't be surprised if Justin was screwing multiple people while he was with Selena & probably still is now that hes with Hailey

[@halleyschae]

Just watched it, her true answer was no and she said it right away. Imagine that.

[@valjackson9050]

@@halleyschae Still wasn't answered 😂

[@explore_with_em_x]

The fact that her hatred is extended to other people and not just Selina just shows how insanely insecure Hailey is. Woman only put other women down when she’s intimidated by her or jealous. Copying everything that Selina does is textbook jealous. It’s sad if you think about it. She married him. What more does she want? Selina to me has been graceful and respectful when it comes to her relationships and has never made herself look how Hailey has. Hailey needs help. Because this level of stalking isn’t normal.

[@marthebf6057]

can you give me an example of Hailey copying Selena? There is no hate between them what so ever, why do you not see that?

[@rotisserie8444]

@@marthebf6057 what a reach…

[@UGuessin]

It’s more shocking that she made those tweets like she’s doesn’t have a Latino background or speak another language.

[@skystruck236]

Hailey, you MARRIED HIM?! What more could someone want? I’m guessing she’s just battling insecurities and it’s making her seem like a “pick-me” girl in my opinion. It’s just poor behavior but I know it’s not entirely her fault considering the world pits women against each other especially if they both have been with the same partner. Just a shame. Hope she finds peace and love within herself.

[@Naomi_Price]

Whatever she's doing, it's creepy! 😬

[@happiflowrr]

Hailey Bieber’s always been obsessed with Selena Gomez but it’s funny to see it pop up again

[@erikakites9505]

Hailey Bieber is next level crazy.

[@SproutTalks]

I'd be interested in a video on the documentary when it comes out!

[@sarahomega]

The way I see it, Selena went through so much sh*t when she was with Justin, that she didn't deserve. Now Selena is at peace (that we know of) and Justin Bieber may be having his karma for all the abuse and cheating he did. Except,his wife is paying for the majority of it as it seems. I don't think Hailey is as innocent as she tries to portray 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@maingaskerbrigenzel2744]

she's completely not innocent

[@smilesxtears]

Karma is real.

[@october7895]

I've literally never spent any time thinking about Hailey but its personal now shes gone after my girl Taylor

[@sophien5416]

Taylor even said in an interview that she's resent Scooter Braun for also how he treated Salena. Taylor knows things. And as fans we see it. That management team is also always releasing things when Salena is releasing things. It's like they are trying to leverage the drama for ratings.

[@melboon285]

it looks like wifey has no own life...

[@gm.8805]

imagine being so obsessed with your husband’s ex even after being married for 4 years, just for clout, while selena is minding her own business.

[@anikavolpel2813]

Sounds a lot like Hailey is insecure about Selena. It's understandable since she's constantly being compared to Selena and told that she shouldn't be in the picture and that it's supposed to be Selena and Justin. That being said, Hailey needs to take a minute and get off social media and figure herself out. it's not healthy to be so hung up on someone who your HUSBAND once dated. Also I will say it does a little bit sound like Hailey wants to be Selena ? idk maybe I'm reading into it too much but as someone who is just learning about this, that's what it sounds like

[@kiyakia]

This almost reminds me of Creepshow art and her husband stalking Emily. Hopefully it’s not as crazy as that though

[@meinorha9370]

I was thinking the same thing...!

[@adamlambboy8332]

I highly doubt Hailey Bieber is wasting her time stalking her husband's decade-old ex.

[@kathyk5196]

You forgot that Selena has had a make up called Rare Beauty for years, now Hailey has a make up line. Selena is doing a documentary and announced it for November, so copy cat Hailey had to do a small talk also' She is a sneaky stalker

[@jamesgamesalot8239]

Watching you be completely befuddled by this dumpster fire was too much fun. More of this.

[@BWalsh737]

Ha, thought the same thing.

[@MoxieRocker]

I feel bad for Hailey. That kind of insecurity can be crippling. Individual and marital counselling would probably be a great help to her

[@raaziaisaac2798]

@ moxie. Feel sorry for a LIAR. I DON'T. SHE SHOULD NOT HAVE LIED IN THAT PODCAST. NOW MAKES ME WANDER HOW MUCH TRUTH HAS SHE EVER TOLD ON SOCIAL MEDIA

[@MoxieRocker]

@@raaziaisaac2798 you stans are really intense. Take a breath.

[@raaziaisaac2798]

@@MoxieRocker No I spoke up based on what I heard on her podcast. It is good to give your side of the story, but then GIVE THE TRUTH

[@skrittle555]

@@raaziaisaac2798 honey calm down you don't even know these people it's not that deep

[@hollyhockss]

Honestly, I had no idea about all of this. It’s wild. I’ve always gotten weird vibes from Justin and Haley. I wish they would just leave Selena alone to live her life.

[@roxrus5217]

Watching celebrities is like going to the zoo, fun for an hour or two once a year but anything more and the smell of s**t becomes too much to deal with.

[@j.s1199]

I would absolutely love more coverage of this girly, keeps me in the loop🤞

[@BeeseChoard]

I didn’t know any of this. Please do a video on the call her daddy situation!

[@janetwinnyinfinitebeing]

The best of it all is gonna be Selena landing up talk about something thats completely different and has nothing to do with these two or even her love life... Proving to the world that her vision, priorities and sense of responsibility towards the planet is far more wide and extended then some failed relationship that brought her nothing but disappointments...

[@Blue.velvet.0124]

This is honestly just like high school drama but their in their 20s and 30s🤦🏾‍♀️ it's quite bad

[@summerb5153]

Okay I thought people were cruel to her for no reason but this is giving me crazy vibes 💀💀

[@maya1110]

and we dont know the half of it...selena published her rare album and hailey showed up with friends at a restaurant where they were celebrating and they were shouting justin, it was horrible...this was after they were married...for me i dont get how Justin doesnt mind, like the girl is vile,how can that be attractive

[@aYhfnfjmnfh]

Exactly

[@anniesright]

wanted to let you know that this is the first video of yours i’ve seen - don’t shy away from content like this because it clearly helps you reach a new audience! happy to be a new subscriber :)

[@VangelinaSkov]

Ahh hi thanks for sticking around!

[@lilshawtybadd2010]

Same here!! ❤

[@idkwhattonamemyself9326]

No matter what happens selena is down to earth human being despite Hailey being shady towards Selena, she never shaded her or said anything hurtful to her. She always kill em with kindness. I love sel sm. 💘

[@Iblistriggerr]

like many others I was confused why people were being so hateful towards Hailey, and then realized Shes been under the radar being a dick to Selena and stalking her. I do feel bad that she may be insecure but that DOES NOT mean you get the right to harass someone because you're insecure. Putting someone else's mental health down because you're insecure is a terrible thing to do. It also seems like Justin didn't move on so quick or even at all. I wonder if he initially got with Hailey to make Selena jealous or some crazy shit like that. Poor Selena having to endure not only being shit talked by you ex's wife (who is a snake who said they adored you and then shit talks you only to turn around and copy/stalk you?) who you've already moved on from, but also having to constantly hear about the drama surrounding you that shouldn't even be a thing. I can't believe all the shit Hailey did practically went unknown to many people.

[@mariel9763]

I'm sorry but if I got the ring, there's no way in hell you would see me even utter a word about my husband's past. It just doesn't matter at all. If I'm 100% sure I'm the one, and he made me feel that way and I know there's no way in hell he could break our trust or run to some past girl why would I even talk about this? She wants to convince the public so bad but it just reeks insecurity. And we all know why. Selena was Justin's first love. There's no one who can compete with her on his heart and Hailey knows this as well. She's scared of something going slightly wrong on their “blissful” marriage and Justin going back to Selena once again because that's literally what he has done with her for years when they were on and off.

[@sophien5416]

OMG this is so scary. Please look into Maddison Hill's coverage of these two on her KZbin. That's when I started following the drama because I thought perhaps it was only a PR move. Essentially everytime Salena Gomez releases something, Beiber teams releases something similar shortly afterwards. Song after songs, show after show, interview after interview...even though Salena has worked on her specific project for years (and the Beiber camp only release these projects after Salena announces something). I only thought it was their management doing this, but seeing that Haileys been participating in this obsession for years even before the marriage. It really makes me scared for Salena. SG has been just trying to ignore everything and live her best life. Salena even defended Hailey after passive agressive comments were made by her on her IG, as a reaction to the release of "Lose you to Love me", but the Beiber camp love framing the narrative that Salena has said nothing to her fans. It's the Beibers/Baldwins/and management that keeps targeting Salena. Even Haileys father went on The Social to dredge up this drama recently. It's one thing when fans do it, its another thing entirely when the stars do it themselves. I'm really scared for Salena. Crazy fans have caused physical harm to celebrities (even death). I worry if something breaks in the Beiber marriage what Hailey may do to Salena now, because it's so personal and over so many years. She's obsessed. I wish they would all just leave Salena alone.

[@SproutTalks]

Ok for engagement: this feels like such weird timing because just last night I was feeling nostalgic for the super short period of time when I was in middle school or high school when I had a JB phase for like a few months

[@Vzjklklkgfjbvggb]

Simple question, simple answer. But she doesn't say no. So instead she lies out very badly. Of course she was the side chick for years, the second fiddle. And she always will be because true love never dies no matter how much she manipulates him.

[@girl.exe_hasstopped]

I don’t plan to follow the call her daddy podcast interview but would love a video from you about it!

[@mikalcarruthers]

Oh VangelinaSkov, how do you keep looking awesome and fabulous year after year after year 👍

[@VangelinaSkov]

You are too nice!!!

[@peewee139]

@@VangelinaSkov it’s not even a compliment, it’s a FACT 💯

[@priscilladuron7177]

Hailey is a sicko and a stalker, but it will come around somehow, her personality is as big as a cardboard cutout and shes the exact image of her father so I think theses things make her so insecure to this day she hasn't realized shes married to justin that her constant hanging around paid off

[@tarasalad]

SOOOO excited for new stuff! I'd like to watch your videos covering the interview and documentary. As far as all the social media evidence, I just generally assume (maybe incorrectly) that famous people don't run their own social medias but have assistants for that. If that's the case, it doesn't seem valid to attribute social media likes/posts/follows to stalking.

[@smolsnoodle]

I had no idea this was a huge thing, I did find it odd how Hayley was but thank u for this ❤️

[@theartandstuffs]

We can see Sel is so done with them.... And she has completely moved on.... It ain't her responsibility if people hate a certain someone (maybe their actions are responsible for the hate they receive) Period

[@hillaryasmr4701]

Please make a video about the call me daddy interview!!

[@nxx4872]

if anyone wants a deeper dive into this topic i highly recommend listening to the podcast fluentlyforward episode 17, it’s titled “Justin Bieber & Selena Gomez (oh and Hailey’s here too)”. the podcast host does a deep dive into the relationship between the 3 and the drama surrounding them, and goes over all the blind items, social media posts, interviews, etc. that were about them.

[@bleus7413]

Sorry idk why I’m having such a hard time finding it is the podcast on KZbin ??

[@nxx4872]

@@bleus7413 it’s on spotify or apple music

[@nxx4872]

@@bleus7413 or amazon music

[@mariededkova603]

45 seconds? I have NEVER been this early! You look great! EDIT: This is sooo messy. I would love a follow up!

[@VangelinaSkov]

Ooo very early hi!

[@raymesmesik3108]

Literally she's the side chick and that's the truth 😅🤣😂

[@Cosplayfan-bp4jw]

Ok this is unrelated to the vid, but could you possibly do a video on the recent stuff with the try guys? I'm kinda confused on the details and you're my go to when I don't understand drama 😅

[@VangelinaSkov]

I’ll try and work on something today ☺️

[@Cosplayfan-bp4jw]

@@VangelinaSkov Seeing your reply shocked me more than it probably should have lol. Thank you!

[@js1098]

Justin married a fan coz his ego needs tht. And Hailey is acting like the crazy fan she is.

[@Fred2303]

As soon as you said it's okay to not like T Swift I thought the same. The super stans will come at you. Haha. Those people are the reason why I sometimes hate being a Swift fan. They make all of us look crazy.

[@jenniferlenfestey5335]

For Engagement: I had no idea any of this was going on, but I am pleased to see the IKEA light energized and burning brightly.

[@ailidorabla2273]

I just love that we kind of make a fan club for the IKEA light!!! XD

[@pinguufuuuu]

So I feel like I can confidently have an unbiased opinion because I hate all 3 of them, but I also used to be a former Selena and jelena fan. not a stan, but a casual fan. And an even bigger fan of JB. I feel like Hailey has a LOT of insecurity issues. She NEEEEEDDSSSS to let go of this obsessive behavior and focus on her relationship. It makes her look soo bad, petty, and pathetic. Its crazy that up until now she's still talking about her. i might not care about selena anymore but one thing about her is that she moved on and is in a better place than both of them. Selena is still a good musician, has a successful business, is still acting and has awards, I feel like Hailey compares herself to that. I know I would. But Selena hasn't thought about JB in years. I'm pretty sure JB has a lot of blame here too for leading both girls on, and I'm pretty sure he was at least one of the reasons Selena went to rehab. I feel like he's very toxic and manipulative, but clearly he's proven that he loves Hailey now and his main focus is her. I'm interested in Sel's documentary too, so i will be watching. She's relatively private and quiet about things, so I feel like she's within her rights to reveal anything. Hailey should learn from that before she ends up sabotaging her relationship and career by looking like a jealous hater. But of course we know nothing about these people, its all speculation.

[@haileybetancourt4115]

This confirms that the celebrity crowd in LA is just a group of high schoolers.

[@cosmos8057]

I think a lot of this comes from the fact that she was/ is a fan of his and at one point hers, even from way back in the day. She’s just intensified and continued this behavior, imo. She got the guy she was drooling over in the end. I think she is fascinated over the fact that she was able to get him. I mean from the other comments I’ve read about her behavior in the past, she acted like his fan who was always available to him and I got the sense she chased after him. Who really knows but her stalking Selena is indicative of so many things like obsession, insecurities, lack of privacy on Selena’s part. Side note, Hailey has been known to go deep on instagram, like that girl who supposedly gets all her style copied by Kendall Jenner, Hailey ended up liking some of that girls stuff and following her recently… so I do think she has control of her account and is really active on there.

[@berenicesparza]

This video was on my recommended and im so glad i clicked on it! I love this video and im gonna pull an all nighter to watch the rest of your videos!

[@VangelinaSkov]

Ah yay glad you liked it x

[@kittyboikenma]

I love how Vangelina talks about stuff like this. It seems so factual and genuine, not egging the viewers by spreading more rumors. Love you!!

[@gemmasantiago8093]

Hailey is really obsess and jealous of Selena’s beauty, achievements and what Selena is because she can never reach, achieve ,surpass or outwit what Selena stands for. That’s why she always copies everything Selena does. She is a great imitator. And Imitation is a form of Flattery.

[@angelaramirez4144]

Lol Notice how Hailey didn't deny being romantically involved with Justin while he was with Selena. She only said, "There is a truth." In my opinion, she means that Justin came to her, so she doesn't feel like she stole him.

[@Booyawatchin]

Isn’t it weird that the man who needs to be held accountable isn’t and the women are Pit against each other

[@mybittersweetme]

I never cared much for any of the three, but I am interested in seeing what hailey has to say, so I'm looking forward to your video on it (i'm not interested enough to watch the full interview)

[@chatnoir60609]

I'd definitely love a video reacting to the interview. I'm not a fan of either of them, however I do like some of Selena's music and overall her artist presence is charming. But that interview made me cringe, the way Hailey talked like she was Justin's representative, that way she addressed the situation, like she was desperate for the world to know she's the victim, she's better that Selena, etc etc. And then during the sex part, my goodness, she seem determined to prove to the world how amazing they're together. I don't know, all was so uncomfortable to watch. It felt so disingenuous.

[@SailorMya]

Didn't know this was a thing but I'm glad I do now! Sometimes just zoning out to random gossip is relaxing.

[@veromariac1]

me rn

[@kathyjimenez4370]

I’m shocked 😮 didn’t know either. Some juicy gossip hehe 😉

[@thinkaboutit2137]

You forgot to mention how kendell is also a selena stalker. When she was younger she made a vid with kylie saying selena was her style inspo and in recent years has been spotted wearing the same outfits selena wore. Both hailey and kendel have appropriated mexican culture and selena is half mexican, coincidence? I think there is enough evidence to say hailey and kendel are obsessed with selena. They both claimed to like selena but both went after JB. I think they both are insecure and needed justins validation so they could make themselves believe they are better than selena. Many insecure woman do this... they go for married men or men with gfs to feel validated. Its clear hailey worked hard to trap justin with kendal and kylies help. The karjeners are all man stealers but karma is real and they all end up miserable. Hailey will always be miserable and haunted by the relationship selena and justine had. Like taylor swift says "karma is real". Hailey would have to go blind and deaf to escape selena and the relationship she had with JB. Selena is everywhere bcuz she is loved by many. Hailey is the type that if she had a chance she would kill selena. Hailey gives me the same vibes of the Selena Quintanilla murderer. She started out as a fan of selenas then killed her. Also, i think the obsession with selena started with hailey and kendel being obsessed with JB. They couldnt stand that he was dating a girl who is latina and looks nothing like them. Selena is a natural beauty and raven. Selena has always been beautiful. Hailey looks like a boney foot with a fake tan and kendel had to have surgery to look decent and tans and dyes her hair black shes not a natural raven. Hailey and kendel became so envious of selena bcuz of their obsession with JB. Fans cant let go of jelena and thats why hailey and kendel r still obsessed with selena. As long as fans love selena and jelena hailey and kendel cant feel validated. They scream insecurity thats why they both chose modeling careers. They NEED to feel validated. Its sad. They need counceling.

[@juno3281]

oh i immediately thought this was lesbianism- as one myself i always forget not everyone likes women lmao

[@jasxntxdd]

SAME I was like 🌟ooh look a little crush🌟 and then it got...weird

[@frumtheground]

Lmao yeah cute follow suddenly takes a dark turn into hate stalking, I'd say so.

[@xionthecatlord]

Mega interested on your commentary on the documentary

[@deefalador857]

What's really odd is me getting an advert for Selina Gomez's new song whilst watching this video!

[@VangelinaSkov]

Love that lmao

[@grungemudd]

it’s giving creepshowart

[@emmabemma3100]

Haley wasn’t know until she married Justin

[@RinIzanami]

I’m super happy I found your channel, even told my bf about your commentary we both have the same taste. Been nice to see your growth and excited to see where you go 😊

[@jeebanjeeban87]

"If you weren't so hot, I would've got rid of you a long time ago" 🤔😵‍💫😵🥴 she's probably the "side chick" "reserve girl" JB runs to when sh*t hits the fan with SG. Then she got the chance to marry him and grabbed it fast before the opportunity slips. She made herself his dormat and fan-target and now she can't leave. Who's gonna bet JB is just waiting for her to file divorce.

[@sygilloux-v2]

based on this, im thinking she's either obsessed or he's triangulating her against selena. or both.

[@sansequanimity5998]

I'd definitely watch a video about the Call Me Daddy podcast thingy

[@pjlav6304]

The only thing Crazy about this situation is the Fans perpetuating everything with hate comments directed at either one of these ladies. Its sad at this point

[@picassocal]

Hailey is just mad she wasn’t invited to be in Taylor’s squad

[@alystairmabloch401]

French person here, hi ! Your second pronunciation of cannes was right.. kind like a can! :)

[@user-fn8bq7ef7t]

To be fair, Hailey and I are similar in age. In 2012-2013, she was still a teenager. I know my FB posts from that time were super cringe.

[@sophien5416]

Yeah but she's an adult now and these things keep happening. Everytime Salena releases a project the Beibers announce a similar project shortly afterwards.

[@astraiarune3026]

Definitely do another video would love that!

[@cutetattooedgirl5322]

Im back from Twitter! Lol found you again. You're amazing!!

[@oldsoldier4209]

"...whether you're new here, or whether you're old here." I feel like I'm old here. But, at over 1/2 a century, I feel like I'm old pretty much anywhere. 🤣😂🤣

[@VangelinaSkov]

That is not old!!!!!!!€!!

[@EJNSAA]

Great video, I would definitely watch more on this topic!