The HARDEST Character in Street Fighter 6 is... (ft. Diaphone, Kizzie Kay)

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7 ай бұрын

Kizzie Kay is back with Diaphone, this time with their lists of their top 5 hardest characters to play and win with in Street Fighter 6! From the DLC characters like A.K.I. to characters who require more of a brain to win with like Kimberly, see what they have to say!
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@KennethBryant86
@KennethBryant86 7 ай бұрын
Kizzy just named DJ and ryu as top 5 hardest characters dat boi smoking dope
@skychaos87
@skychaos87 7 ай бұрын
DJ is spammable at low level, just keep throwing the heavy fireball and DP if they jump. Even if they progress a little and start playing neutral, DJ's buttons are so good. DJ is harder to use than most characters, but is easy at low level and has good chance of winning at high level.
@michaelharvent7221
@michaelharvent7221 7 ай бұрын
His heavy fireball is SUPER slow in recovery so only spammable from very long distances and most of his buttons are very good in range but not in damage since all his good buttons are not cancelable. Very susceptible to DI on low levels
@numa2k147
@numa2k147 7 ай бұрын
Knee hop as well lmao
@user-cs2hm5xp1n
@user-cs2hm5xp1n 6 ай бұрын
@@michaelharvent7221 yeah silver gold you just get DI to the face everytime u throw something at neutral
@firehammock3021
@firehammock3021 7 ай бұрын
This is my first Street Fighter, I'm plat rank and I have found the hardest character to learn was definitely Chun-li. The stance cancels and charge moves had such a learning curve compared to any other character.
@KittSpiken
@KittSpiken 7 ай бұрын
The hardest part of Ryu is that he has back and forward heavy punch that you're gonna get when you just want stand.
@lakeithlewis1343
@lakeithlewis1343 7 ай бұрын
Under-rated adjustment for sure
@ricniclas
@ricniclas 7 ай бұрын
Oh god, soo many missed shimmies because of Back heavy punch
@Redwill85
@Redwill85 7 ай бұрын
Yeah man. Totally true.
@ensanesane
@ensanesane 7 ай бұрын
I feel that with cammy f hk and Lily has that dumb overlap with wind store and command grab
@MrDuckyWucky
@MrDuckyWucky 7 ай бұрын
Zangief has a multitude of pointless moves. And has some really bad stats. DJ does not. Therefore Zangied if is harder.
@KitchenDog03
@KitchenDog03 7 ай бұрын
He has some of the best normals in the game
@aster-sama
@aster-sama 7 ай бұрын
@@KitchenDog03you sure about that buddy?
@geneticjen9312
@geneticjen9312 6 ай бұрын
I see this as harder to win with Vs harder to learn. Having bad stats can't still be easy to learn. Having good stats can't still be hard to learn
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil
@KingOfDarknessAndEvil 6 ай бұрын
​@@geneticjen9312I agree with you. Zangief is a pretty easy character to play but getting wins with him is a struggle
@Inverse236
@Inverse236 7 ай бұрын
Gotta have that dj downplay lmfao gief might be good in rookie, the minute people learn how to jump at all spamming SPD will get you killed. When you are new to sf, especially in this game, Gief is getting massacred by his slow ass moves and inconsistent anti airs. Any of the upper tier characters will run all over gief with just jab and neutral jump at a low level.
@marlinmurrell620
@marlinmurrell620 7 ай бұрын
As someone new to Street Fighter and maining Zangief, this is correct.
@Inverse236
@Inverse236 7 ай бұрын
@@marlinmurrell620 yeah I started as a rookie too, as this is is my first sf outside of casual couch pvp. I'm now diamond 2. Like 2500 matches played, most of those just learning how not to get absolutely bullied by most of the cast.
@gwen9939
@gwen9939 7 ай бұрын
Gief is one those characters that will carry low level players to a certain rank and then they hit a brick wall. Running into a Gief in like high plat/low diamond and it's a 50/50 if they have any fundamentals. There are good Giefs there of course, but a much larger portion of them than other characters got there through gimmicks and robbery and it shows. It's not as bad as Honda though. Honda carries almost every player very far until he drops off a cliff because he isn't actually that good if players learn to properly fight him, it's just that no one does specialized matchup stuff until they absolutely have to. Blanka is the same but to a lesser extent, except Blanka is actually a good character higher up as well.
@Inverse236
@Inverse236 7 ай бұрын
@@gwen9939 I would say blanka is just extremely good at all levels. A good blanka is a nightmare to fight.
@ardidsonriente2223
@ardidsonriente2223 7 ай бұрын
@@gwen9939 You could play Blanka with only heavy ball until gold without major problems. Then in plat 3 or 4 people stops the spam very consistently with anti airs, disjoints, jumps and DI, and you can't play braindead anymore. Honda does the same with headbutt, but he can survive doing zombie spam well into diamond.
@calebstanerstratsshop1834
@calebstanerstratsshop1834 7 ай бұрын
Zangiefs moves are waaaay more punishable and its very obvious which ones are sooo even at a low level i think Zangief has it rough
@GreatRusio
@GreatRusio 7 ай бұрын
if you can do the half circle or even better yet spins then Zangief is a demon at low level
@geoffreytasker2097
@geoffreytasker2097 7 ай бұрын
As they should be when you are doing 30% from a command grab
@tilting_cat3344
@tilting_cat3344 7 ай бұрын
​@@GreatRusioneutral jump or cross up screw zangief up
@moanasandford4029
@moanasandford4029 7 ай бұрын
Kizzie and the DJ downplay : that shit is top tier ! 😂
@dylanmckay984
@dylanmckay984 7 ай бұрын
I expected to hear Chun Li before DJ as far as charge characters go. I also kind of expected to hear Rashid at least mentioned (I guess I personally find him quite a bit more challenging than Ryu, but I'm also not super aware of how good either character is at a high level).
@hesh1491
@hesh1491 7 ай бұрын
chun is not hard she’s hella cheap
@Jonfgc
@Jonfgc 6 ай бұрын
@@hesh1491nah she ain’t got nothing that’s cheap
@ELFanatic
@ELFanatic 5 ай бұрын
That's the real take
@NuFrontierVS
@NuFrontierVS 7 ай бұрын
I can definitely agree that A.K.I. and Sim are two of the hardest to truly nail down as their kits are very unique, and require a deep understanding of the game mechanics, and fundamentals to truly see long term results. They're very investment heavy whereas other characters don't require as much. Also my hot take: I think Lily is also one of the harder characters to master long term, since she's very poke-footsie oriented, and while her gameplan is more straightforward than others, the fact that you have to be very precise with your spacing and utilize your tools effectively without mindlessly jumping in all of the time, makes her a hard character to master at a high level.
@GameConnoisseur69
@GameConnoisseur69 7 ай бұрын
I'm so glad yall are keeping this channel alive love the content
@rustams7502
@rustams7502 7 ай бұрын
Absolutely love how Kizzie interrupts Diaphone with nothing of value to add. At a higher volume too. Top knotch stuff, keep it up.
@yusuf8938
@yusuf8938 7 ай бұрын
Choosing DeeJaycis an absolute joke lol. Gief is 1000% harder to use than DeeJay
@krissrock
@krissrock 7 ай бұрын
lol Kizzy on that Gief hate!! No way is DeeJay harder to win with than Gief
@gwen9939
@gwen9939 7 ай бұрын
I expected to see Chun somewhere on this list. She doesn't have the craziest normals or drive rush, she can't easily cross-cut DP, needs to use multiple anti-airs/air-to-airs/air throws, relies on doing oki, is a mixed motion-charge character, has a stance that can be cancelled into even from uncancellable normals, and juggle limits play a big part in how her combo routes work. She has cheap stuff but it's kinda toned down compared to the real cheap stuff in the game, and I definitely think she's hard for lower level players to pick up. Like below Diamond I rarely saw anyone playing her in a way that could be considered correct. Like, she's very strong and her neutral, oki and fireball are amazing, I'm definitely a Chun up-player, I just think she's harder to unlock than the average character while also having a pretty high floor for new players.
@Astrohideaki
@Astrohideaki 7 ай бұрын
Plus you gotta have a very quick reaction with chun li
@GhostxMenace
@GhostxMenace 7 ай бұрын
Glazing
@JangaLove
@JangaLove 7 ай бұрын
@@PartialCollapse I think this is true for all characters in the cast
@numa2k147
@numa2k147 7 ай бұрын
Chun was a better choice than Deejay or Gief
@GregDragon
@GregDragon 7 ай бұрын
The complexity is part of her charm.
@Yggdrasill59
@Yggdrasill59 5 ай бұрын
Seems only Diaphone knows what he's talking about...
@TheWordPlay
@TheWordPlay 7 ай бұрын
I was surprised to not hear Chun-Li or Rashid. Doing well with them has been a struggle for me
@ericjackman1143
@ericjackman1143 7 ай бұрын
Honorable mention: Chun Li. I climbed from S5-D1 with her and it was NOT easy in the slightest. When you're a newb, you learn that going in with dashes are so good that you forget about Chun's godlike walk speed. Her combo routes with serenity stance are strange. 5MK is stubby and Tensho Kicks require timing to anti-air with. As a new player you're just gonna light kikouken and hope for the best. Plus she's a charge character, so holding charge is tough to manage especially after you learn that you have to walk people down and you can't just drive rush in like Dee Jay or hold back like Guile. Going into mid level of play is hard AF because you have to use ALL of her normals to be successful and learn that her air to air game is whack and she's floaty AF. She's got good normals, but they're not Cammy's privileged normals for sure.
@kaemonbonet4931
@kaemonbonet4931 7 ай бұрын
I would say dj is a bit counterintuitive but he has easy combos and spammable normals as well as a few reliable anti airs. Low level dj is cake. Intermediate, you can do so much damage without using anything more than an empty drive cancel. High level the only reason we dont see more of him is because people don't know how strong his fakeout game actually is.
@ricniclas
@ricniclas 7 ай бұрын
Deejay doesn't need to spam charge moves, because he can spam his busted normals, motion specials, that freaking KoF hop, the character is absurdly overwhelming. If you say the character has too many tools, and thus is hard, the same could be said about JP and Chun
@adamgarms3727
@adamgarms3727 7 ай бұрын
As a loyal fan of Gief, I want to keep him out of the bottom 5...but as a loyal fan of Gief, I gotta call it as I see it, he's hard as hell to play outside of the dumpster tier matchmaking. Doable, for sure, and you can have a great time with it, but difficult. That said, in the time it would take the average player to build skills to get him mid-top tier, I feel they could probably get Dee Jay and like 2 other fighters to the same level of mastery. I'm still a loyal fan though, and most importantly, don't let any list keep you from playing who you enjoy.
@jcayala4252
@jcayala4252 7 ай бұрын
As a Zangief player.. I do it for my loyal fans! Diamond 2 as of this post.
@DarkProdigy820
@DarkProdigy820 7 ай бұрын
Something that didn't get brought up that I think is important on the Gief vs DeeJay stuff is that Modern Gief is a monster. One Button SPD, One Button Lariat is insane.
@z1u512
@z1u512 7 ай бұрын
How is one button lariat insane when classic lariat is already one of the easiest inputs in fgs One button spd comes in useful certainly but the damage reduction is too much especially when you also lose so many important normals His biggest upside in modern is the instant level 3
@yaner6941
@yaner6941 7 ай бұрын
As a zangief main i still fight people who don't know what to do against zangief at master, but dj is so good It's hard to choose him
@mastermoose8390
@mastermoose8390 7 ай бұрын
Kizzy is lowkey bad in this video. Like for beginners, I would expect for you guys to agree on characters that actually have unique motions like a lily & giefs, seeing that people under Plat one don’t even understand how to do a 360 motion without jumping. Deejay can just press buttons and drive impact at low level. Diaphone on point again.
@likehere3485
@likehere3485 7 ай бұрын
Modern input is in this game tho
@sanicboi9187
@sanicboi9187 7 ай бұрын
​@@likehere3485Modern inputs make every character similar input difficultly though
@bigjc5546
@bigjc5546 7 ай бұрын
i wouldn't put lily there tho, zangief sure but lily no she got too many cheap atuff even bad players can spam and go away unpunished because they're low level
@stefanobailey740
@stefanobailey740 7 ай бұрын
​@bigjc5546 lily has too much cheap stuff? You know she is widely recognised as a bottom 2 character.
@aaronp2542
@aaronp2542 7 ай бұрын
I think its the knowledge check though with Lily. Stacked condor spire is legit confusing to some without knowing it whereas Zangief is slow enough and obvious in his gameplan that you stay away after getting nabbed a few times.
@FrostyMcSnowman
@FrostyMcSnowman 7 ай бұрын
I just hit Gold 3 with Gief and I would say that moving up the ranks with him get harder and harder. Especially if you don’t take the time to learn the matchups. SF6 is the first fighting game where I played ranked and am getting into it competitively. I usually just play the story in fighting games and then do other offline content. But learning a fighting game competitively and playing as Zangief starting out has developed many challenges and it means even more work that I would have to put in the higher I get. However there’s nothing more satisfying than grabbing someone and spiking their head on the ground for big damage.
@whitetsteve4967
@whitetsteve4967 7 ай бұрын
Ryu still playing Street Fighter 2
@Dude902
@Dude902 7 ай бұрын
I tuned out Kizzie downplaying gief's struggle when I saw Itazan in the clip get mixed by a fullscreen tick throw from Aki twice in a row.
@vergils.lawnchair
@vergils.lawnchair 7 ай бұрын
My two mains are Jamie and Manon, and it was brutal getting to platinum, so I'm relieved it wasn't just me struggling 😅
@lordsaaalllt8159
@lordsaaalllt8159 7 ай бұрын
as a zangief player i must agree with diaphone, his grabs are powerful yes but he has to work 10 times as hard as every other character to get in and has trouble staying in. alot of his buttons are susceptible to universal system mechanics like DI or DR, and he is bar non the easiest character to wiff punish in the game. Another his combos are very hard both in execution and in confirmation regardless of how functionally simple they are. lastly as described in the user guide gief works best when making accurate predictions on the opponent and possible is rewarded the most for making such predictions but that is an incredibly hard aspect to win at consistently, especially when Gief is punished so heavily on a wrong read.
@Azteck9
@Azteck9 7 ай бұрын
All my mains in 1 video. The road traveled is a hard one but we made it to master with each from Plat 1 so, it was worth it. Geif requires big brain, Jamie requires severe mu knowledge, and Sim. Well, Sim is low key broken. People just playing him wrong. Lily is hard to win with. She needs work at a salon with all the conditioning you have to do to make her a threat. And anyone saying DJ requires skill is either trollin or just started the game yesterday.
@dubstepmummy4849
@dubstepmummy4849 7 ай бұрын
I feel like its Gief. A majority of options, no matter the character, loses to back jump. Deejay has more mixup options and if you're not falling for his gameplan, he can change it pretty easily and if you back jump a drive rush option I'm willing to bet his DP or OD DP snuffs out your back jump
@GuiMoreno291
@GuiMoreno291 7 ай бұрын
If the argument to put Dee Jay in top 5 is "charge and he has a lot of tools" I think Chun Li would fit tha role better, after all she is charge and has a stance and she cant abuse DR as much. That said, Gief is harder to win tournaments with, and both are really easy to get online Ws with
@1polarbear
@1polarbear 7 ай бұрын
At the lowest level it is definitely gief's world BUT intermediate and advanced he just has to work a lot harder. Dj is rough when starting out but he has good normals, a very good fireball, and can really get going. I think if you take everything into account from learning to optimizing I still think DJ is harder because regardless if you wanna be 100% optimal or starting out hes pretty tough. Most new players are absolutely not using DJ's level 2 super.
@gracefulleo8471
@gracefulleo8471 7 ай бұрын
Kizzie is definitely on something to put to the top hardest character a scrub character with one of the most annoying gimmics (fake dp into a crossup), and really easy gameplay. Another thing that i'm not quite get, where Zangief is easy? Literally like 3 or 4 days ago SnakeEyez on the stream was dropping a lot of thoughts about Zangief, and even considering to see whether it's even worth to waste time on him, that's how bad Z is in this game, and still he is an easy? Drop spd and lariats on low level? Idk, guys. Medics! P.S. SnakeEyez is won CPT qualifiers not because Gief busted, but because he playing for a 20+ years this character, and 13 years proffesionally on the highest lvl. P.P.S Isn't 360/720 moves considered to be the hardest for the low level? Even on highest lvl with knee buffer and stuff pros are still dropping it, and they still droping raw spd from time to time.
@ardidsonriente2223
@ardidsonriente2223 7 ай бұрын
DJ spamming sweep, fireball and flash kick can make a solid play even at intermediate. Going nuts with his instant drive rush also is super easy and doesn't loss so much viability at intermediate. I suposse at high level it becomes tougher... but most people never get there anyway. Zangief is way harder to play at all levels, no doubt. Even with the big damage and easy modern commands, one of the first things you learn as a novice in this game is to not stay close to Gief or Manon. At Iron they already have to fight to approuch every time, and they don't have any cheap stuff to spam, at all.
@ghhlegend
@ghhlegend 7 ай бұрын
Zangief 100000% diaphone knows what’s up. Of course another Dee Jay player downplaying this character 😂 still love you Kizzy 😂
@Vanfernal
@Vanfernal 7 ай бұрын
Kizzie downplaying his character. Color me surprised. 😆
@PrimeValkyrie
@PrimeValkyrie 7 ай бұрын
Kizzie is a Ky main in Strive, he has had years of character downplay experience. 🤣
@MrMastermelo15
@MrMastermelo15 7 ай бұрын
Straight up Zangief is hard at low level because NO ONE is staying on the ground long enough for you to SPD them. Kizzy is crazy for saying Deejay. Deejay just does Jus cool moves at low level and no one blocking those.
@derpalot1232
@derpalot1232 7 ай бұрын
aint no way that DJ is harder then zangief when zangief is the slowest character in both moment speed and drive rush. The moment u get to gold spamming command grabs is gonna get you killed if they know that they can jump to escape it plus his input isnt the exactly the most easy to use for someone new to the game(his ultimate is an 360 input). DJ might be overwelming to learn but also applies to the person he fighting that he has to learn all of DJ moves. DJ arguely one of the top 5 in higher level play is less hard to play with than a zangief. I dont see a zangief main getting to master before a dj player
@michaelharvent7221
@michaelharvent7221 7 ай бұрын
As someone who is trying to get Jamie in master and gets destroyed by Giefs and not dj I have to agree with kizzy. You can also just play gief on modern. Once he has lvl 3 he can just do it while you use plus on block moves on pressure making it almost impossible to stop him from landing that grab. 50% just gone.
@Miggle90
@Miggle90 7 ай бұрын
First fighting game ever. Tried ryu cammy and dj. Barely got to gold in 2 months. 3 weeks later diamond gief. Your only obstacle as gief is your patience
@Mishu777
@Mishu777 7 ай бұрын
Gief is alright at silver and gold, i got to gold spamming chops but after that it’s nothing but pain and suffering Dj is hard at first but gets much better with time, dj overall feels better
@z3poxx
@z3poxx 7 ай бұрын
I think Rashid is probably one of the harder characters on all levels of play. Maybe his charged projectile is good enough to dominate neutral in low level play.
@markmessi9020
@markmessi9020 7 ай бұрын
Bro I mained Manon since release and learned the game with her. I spent four hours in the lab yesterday with Rashid just out of curiosity and oh, my, fuh! I destroyed in casuals and immediately said, yep this is my main now. I'm taking Rashid to Master let's go! TLDR: Rashid is not the hardest character to pick up and play
@kaemonbonet4931
@kaemonbonet4931 7 ай бұрын
I got to diamond with low forward tatsu and no other combos.
@idkfa9837
@idkfa9837 7 ай бұрын
You can lame out lower level people with the character but he actually becomes quite difficult to manage when you start matching up against competent players and every match you'll be wishing that you had you level 2.
@PrincipalSkinner3190
@PrincipalSkinner3190 7 ай бұрын
I'm a JP and Zangief main, DeeJay feels the hardest to me.
@caitsiph1
@caitsiph1 6 ай бұрын
Think the 5 hardest for me are aki, Jamie, zangief, blanka, dhalsim, and the t hawk girl who name I forget.
@kkblaze312
@kkblaze312 7 ай бұрын
Deejay has a lot more shit to remember and know also has to be super clean with optimal combos if he doesn’t just default to only using machine gun punch combo Enders, there are also different timings on his safe jumps , bro u run out of drive gauge and it is over for u , gief once you do the character guide learn some combos and get your fundamentals in like bronze -gold you’ll steam roll people . Deejay has Rhythm mini game , double charge combos , combo out of a charge move into DI , now all those things make him Better than gief but structuring deejay pressure at high lvl with feints , grabs , flash kick is a lot to remember and some of them combos are not easy he has a lot of weird links !
@classicsagat
@classicsagat 7 ай бұрын
All I gotta say is... Dosukoi! XD
@ziggyq6712
@ziggyq6712 7 ай бұрын
Watching them debate which of my mains is bottom 1 Jamie or Manon 😢
@tianqi5008
@tianqi5008 7 ай бұрын
Don't worry man be a Low Tier God........but you know, not...........the Low Tier God.
@Redwill85
@Redwill85 7 ай бұрын
He was trippin talking about Manon like that
@ryangalloway3107
@ryangalloway3107 7 ай бұрын
Saying that Dee Jay is one of the hardest is so funny.
@mugendojuntao
@mugendojuntao 7 ай бұрын
one that I find difficult to play in SF6 its guile and I even play him in other SF (but he not my main), but in this new game I feel like he's too slow
@Ichithix
@Ichithix 7 ай бұрын
Kizzy trollin', right?
@numa2k147
@numa2k147 7 ай бұрын
Kizzie... Chun Li would have been a better choice than Deejay or Gief lol and you were part of that CPT qualifier you know how hard he had to work.
@blialee4837
@blialee4837 7 ай бұрын
Charge characters are way harder and thats why I stayed away from them for years even with a fight stick. But I would say its so much more reasonable if you play on a hitbox though. Also everyone else who isn't charge makes you think less so you can confirm easier
@sundevil34
@sundevil34 7 ай бұрын
It’s strange because I would usually recommend Guile or Balrog or something back in the day to people new to the game. Charging makes you automatically block, which is something newbies struggle with.
@bbyjohn11
@bbyjohn11 7 ай бұрын
Kizzy loves downplaying dj 😂
@SageEnder
@SageEnder 7 ай бұрын
Not having Rashid in this list is criminal
@shakkaka12435924
@shakkaka12435924 7 ай бұрын
Gief over DJ anyday, Gief needs work at every level
@Amaling
@Amaling 7 ай бұрын
Its not Gief or Dee Jay, it's Gief or Rashid. Basically whatever arguments given for Dee Jay being difficult at low level apply to Rashid, and he's not as strong of a character at top level
@rickg8109
@rickg8109 4 ай бұрын
As a Low Tier fighter nowadays I got all to Plat starting from 1 star gold or below on purpose. The EASIEST for me was Luke, Ken, JP, Ryu and Honda. The Hardest was Aki, Lily, Dhalsim, and Jamie. Luke and JP were basically brain dead easy at my low level. JP took some time because I got rage quit on so much and hardly anyone wanted a second match., he's more like an SNK boss that a street fighter character IMO. again, im talking from my perspective as a 58yo guy with little time and slow reflex's ..lol
@Heatkids
@Heatkids 7 ай бұрын
Zangief easily...Kizzie tripping😂
@sanctityninja9345
@sanctityninja9345 7 ай бұрын
The Jamie slander hurts me😢
@AllTheRooks
@AllTheRooks 7 ай бұрын
Kizzie is insane to think Dee Jay is harder to use effectively than Gief past like, Iron. I've taken both from Iron to Plat, and Dee Jay could pretty much always gimmick his way to wins with fake fireballs into anti-airs and his DR 6mk. Gief was a fucking struggle, with no mobility options, zero defensive tools outside of Lv3, 2 borderline garbage supers. Gief has his charged HP for some plus frames, and +1 jabs. His antiair game is garbage, he has no real ways of approaching, and he's incredibly suspecptible to DI on his pokes. Dee Jay is 100% easier except maybe when first picking him up for an hour or two.
@eltonthomas607
@eltonthomas607 7 ай бұрын
Zangief definitely the hardest at all levels. A beginner will struggle to get his SPD firstly. Then learning to play neutral with him is a struggle also. At mid level even his combo execution is hard. Chop into Lvl 1 super is awkward as hell to do. At high level you're gonna be chasing characters all over the screen because nobody is letting a grappler get close😂 12:33
@Ulrich_von
@Ulrich_von 7 ай бұрын
Commenting on every video requesting Makoto’s BBCF combo trials, video 33.
@shintenkai1648
@shintenkai1648 7 ай бұрын
They won't do it because in truth, they think SF4 combos are "hard", BBCF will mentally ruin them.
@bigjc5546
@bigjc5546 7 ай бұрын
@@shintenkai1648makoto isnt hard to do combos with, plys its a different type of difficulty
@KennethBryant86
@KennethBryant86 7 ай бұрын
Chun , is far harder in every category than Deejay and ryu
@HiResDez
@HiResDez 7 ай бұрын
Hard doesn't equate to tournament viability but difficulty of execution in which I think Dhalsim, Aki, Deejay, Chun-Li and Rashid is hardest...But instead you guys just turned this into a another veiled tier list video.
@DaGreatCedji
@DaGreatCedji 7 ай бұрын
Jokes on you I don't have to worry about that because I play on modern lol.
@azizkash286
@azizkash286 7 ай бұрын
zangief is the hardest character for 2 reasons. Low tier and the 2nd is hard gameplan
@Nocturnehell
@Nocturnehell 7 ай бұрын
Trying not to be bias as I main Dee Jay but I’d go with a tie here. Gief easy start and mid, but hard end. Dee Jay is hard at start like Kizzie said, but once your in mid you start to refine it enough that mid and end are easy.
@AnthonyBottari
@AnthonyBottari 7 ай бұрын
Lol DeeJay just does whatever he wants to .
@guy543215
@guy543215 7 ай бұрын
Ive master ranked random select and my take is Dhalsim is the hardest, then AKI, Chun Li, Zangief, and DJ
@Siffa_
@Siffa_ 7 ай бұрын
I'm an FG newbie (played melee) with four chars in plat with 60ish hours of ranked. Zangief v. DJ is hard to compare, because DJ is far more execution intensive while Gief is more game knowledge/read based. If you can do a 360, you've basically conquered gief's execution. I personally found DJ MUCH harder due to his odd (and longer) combos and links being so range dependent, coupled with the fact that he just feels vastly different when it comes to what normals you would expect for each button. I'm biased though because my game knowledge is far above my execution ability IMO. One thing y'all didn't mention about Luke is the existence of perfect knuckles, that alone puts me off of playing Luke as a noob. Jamie is semi-carried in the lowest levels from his sweep and palm strike alone (and the ability to get free drinks in neutral). I also think Ryu is easier at low level than y'all think: fireball, sweep, shoryuken, ex donkey kick, and grab alone will get you to plat apparently.
@kaemonbonet4931
@kaemonbonet4931 7 ай бұрын
Zangief is rough beginning because he cant chain three lights into a special. His anti airs are stuffable and susceptible to cross ups. I agree you can coast on being random a bit but not more than other characters. His defense is just so bad and he is so punishable half the time you're taking huge risks by even trying to play neutral. I dont know if he is bottom 5 but he is definitely worse than deejay
@GuyrillaBraun
@GuyrillaBraun 7 ай бұрын
It's Deejay, Kizzie is correct on this.
@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash
@WhirlwindHeatAndFlash 7 ай бұрын
as a multi character ~low diamond player grapplers are easy wins Guile and JP on the other hand are borderline impossible. Especially guile. It feels like he just spams booms and wins and even if you get close every other button he has has way too much range.
@coryharris1939
@coryharris1939 7 ай бұрын
😂 Dee Jay is hard? That’s so funny to hear.
@aZ1d
@aZ1d 7 ай бұрын
Gief is hella lot of harder than DJ, no lowlevel player is doing 360s on the ground from a jab, they always jump. Same thing for the super. DJ has qcf+mk which is safe from any distance that aint up close and the argument that getting into charge is hard is just moot which low lvl guile players show pretty convincingly.
@Kurinth
@Kurinth 7 ай бұрын
surprised no one said rashid for 5th, doesnt have anything especially abuseable at low level and his damage isnt great without optimization, his fireball isnt really standard either and his anti air normal is terrible, and his anti air special is also kinda unreliable.
@DoctaAfrikan
@DoctaAfrikan 7 ай бұрын
A LOT of bias from Kizzie there lol
@alejandromanjarrez1563
@alejandromanjarrez1563 3 ай бұрын
And chun li
@Gooshieooshie5000
@Gooshieooshie5000 7 ай бұрын
DJ in bottom 5 is wildddddd! Diaphone is right, Zangief really isn't that good at low levels unless were talking modern controls. 360 inputs aren't very beginner friendly.
@sirHIXalotNA
@sirHIXalotNA 7 ай бұрын
Where was Rashid in that list?
@mainplank1215
@mainplank1215 7 ай бұрын
dj is not even close to the struggle of zangief, u have no O.K.I after any of your moves (which a grappler should need) gief has like 5 dead moves, I would rather those would get deleted. Lariat not hitting crossups is a crime. The combos zangief needs to do to get actual damage is insane like imagine needing to do forward down mp into 2 quarter circle forwards (this is not even my own words,Snake Eyez is also really mad that this input is really hard for some medioucre damage).Most of his moves do not have plus frames(i get it,not giving grapplers plus moves on block is good but at least give him 2 instead of 1 you know) Not being able to combo into your lvl 3 is also a crime etc. Theres so much more problems with gief that i could extend this more...
@ericpeterson1383
@ericpeterson1383 7 ай бұрын
Zangief is harder. DJ has invincible OD wake up and solid anti-air. Zangief's anti-airing options are rough, and asking a low or midlevel player to learn all the spacing, timing and patience Zangief needs vs Deejay's options is apples and oranges.
@antiRuka
@antiRuka 7 ай бұрын
you can win easily with just spamming M sobat LOL and if they try to DI that you already have won because you can just counter DI and do insane damage combos
@cameronbryant9492
@cameronbryant9492 7 ай бұрын
As a dj main, i can say dj is pretty beain dead. He has insane normals and its super easy to just span dr
@HoTSh0t24
@HoTSh0t24 7 ай бұрын
What rank are you with DJ?
@cameronbryant9492
@cameronbryant9492 7 ай бұрын
Diamond 2
@HoTSh0t24
@HoTSh0t24 7 ай бұрын
@@cameronbryant9492 trust me he’s not brain dead when you get to masters. You spam DR you’re gonna get checked. You throw out his most of his normals too much you’re gonna get drive impacted. Now I don’t agree with Kizzy though. I don’t think he’s top 5 hardest characters but he definitely ain’t brain dead
@markchavez738
@markchavez738 5 ай бұрын
Zangief is the hardest to get to master I think.
@bbmintah8509
@bbmintah8509 7 ай бұрын
Deejay, really? 😂😂 cmon kizzy. Before chun, zangief ?
@SuperLemonfish
@SuperLemonfish 6 ай бұрын
gief is hard to play. he HAS to play neutral and be good at defense. lariat is trash and he has many unique normals to think about. at the lowest level hes carried by having a 1 special move punish game. but thats literally the onlu easy thing about him. DJ at the very lowest level his harder but past upper plat, diamond and master, gief gets harder and harder and harder. dj is carried pretty hard by drive rush being so hard to react and stop
@blakemoore2660
@blakemoore2660 7 ай бұрын
Zangrief 100%. He is trying to downplay his main DJ but he us easy to win with at all ranks.
@mcrmy988
@mcrmy988 7 ай бұрын
lmao Chun-Li and Zangief are harder characters to play than Deejay.
@JS-zz9lg
@JS-zz9lg 7 ай бұрын
AKI, Gief and Jamie probably the hardest characters. Theyre also bad so that doesn't help
@JangaLove
@JangaLove 7 ай бұрын
Well, I guess Chun li is in mk1
@JadeJackal4
@JadeJackal4 7 ай бұрын
Lol how did this man put DJ in over Chun Li? That’s clear bias
@bigjc5546
@bigjc5546 7 ай бұрын
chun li is easier than DJ bro
@JadeJackal4
@JadeJackal4 7 ай бұрын
@@bigjc5546 no she isn’t, How is DJ hard? Chun Li has stances and has charge moves. What makes DJ harder?
@XenonAgenT01
@XenonAgenT01 5 ай бұрын
as a gief player. gief is easier than deejay. even at low level. low levels aint handling 5 frame. insane range spd.
@Its_Lu_Bu
@Its_Lu_Bu 7 ай бұрын
Low level Giefs can't even do an SPD properly. Might as well take that out of the equation. Also, this man is really gonna use "Lariat" as his reason he's good at low tier? My man's trippin lol
@KennethBryant86
@KennethBryant86 7 ай бұрын
I don’t agree with ryu mad easy to pick up luke is easy but better ryu is super easy
@KennethBryant86
@KennethBryant86 7 ай бұрын
This guy really just said deejay is harder to win,learn than gief lol whaatttttt
@ekimXD
@ekimXD 7 ай бұрын
As much as I hate fighting both characters. Nahhh zangief over deejay, all day, everyday.
@elijahoneill5228
@elijahoneill5228 7 ай бұрын
Guile makes more sense than deejay ngl
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