The HARDEST Thing To Understand About Dragon Ball Super...

[@MasakoX]

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[@marcmcool6059]

Goku black should have been stronger

[@maureenamadasun8779]

What if bulma and yamcha had a kid in the Timeskip before Raditz?

[@maureenamadasun8779]

@@marcmcool6059 Yamcha aswell

[@marcmcool6059]

@Maureen Amadasun Yamcha is my favorite z fighter

[@maureenamadasun8779]

@@marcmcool6059 yours too. He’s too underrated

[@PlagueOfGripes]

I counted 13, minimum. Curious what total you guys discovered.

[@xylisisvarlett3734]

Over 9000

[@om_point]

Lol

[@largo778]

add 1, you forgot GT (no longer canon but technically could be it's own timeline)

[@userasdf]

Yay was hoping your comment/video would come up. Totally with you on the 13 although for slightly different reasons when I believe I commented on a copy of the video that's on KZbin.

[@Darkdayzz]

@@largo778 I mean, by all definition, GT CAN still happen.

[@ozaru90]

I know folks dislike GT, but I like to imagine that one of the timelines leads to that future, where Beerus remains asleep, and so Goku and Vegeta never attain God Ki, but grow to Super Saiyan 4.

[@lee1130fromtwitter]

Vegeta cheated to get ss4. Just saying

[@KaiserMattTygore927]

i actually agree with this.

[@connorwood9211]

How would you explain the lack of G,Frieza?

[@ozaru90]

@@connorwood9211 pretty easily. In GT, Frieza never escaped Hell, and never trained. Thusly never reaching his Golden Form.

[@cameronb7161]

I guess you could see it that way.

[@CasualFox12495]

Let's have that "Missing Trunks" Timeline What-If, please.

[@ShadowEclipex]

I have a Theory where he becomes Xeno Trunks that from Xenoverse/DBH

[@overtherenowaitthere]

ahhh, the timezones always work out to masako in the morning

[@fence3517]

Yup

[@thundrbaze]

Same same

[@tempgamefreakgaming]

Right at 9am for me... nice

[@kaidorade1317]

Masako In The Morning...I’d watch that series

[@desertsandfly2277]

@@tempgamefreakgaming it's 7pm for me.

[@RayAkuma]

When thinking about "everytime a fukup in time happens a timering gets created" I think they must have multiple closets of time rings in xenoverse.

[@the_exegete]

Maybe the Supreme Kai of Time prevents that. When you think about it the point of Xenoverse is to "fix" altered timelines, though how sending a totally new person back in time to win fights for Goku results in a timeline that's the same as the original is beyond me. Time Kaiohshin magic I guess.

[@jusquanorthwind1016]

@@the_exegete they explain in the game, that if you make things close enough, your presence in the fight simply melds back into the original time like you weren't there. so yeah, time kaioshin magic is correct.

[@Webshooters1]

Moral Of The Story: Stop thinking about it. Though now I can't stop thinking about the idea of a council of Zamasus from different timelines. Maybe one where he took Gohan's body or even a Goku Black who decided to abandon Zamasu after getting sealed successfully in order to get stronger, etc.

[@loopyfists]

Therw is a cool gohan black video called gohanverse.

[@johnnygyro2295]

But thinking about it is part of the fun! 😁 That being said, a Legion of Zamasu could've been interesting.

[@IlliterateSage]

That sounds like the Council of Ricks, except bloodthirsty. Now I can't imagine Zamasu without a flask in his pocket.

[@captainvafeas9018]

Maybe one where he takes an Adult Goten's body, kind of like what everyone theorized when Goku Black first appeared

[@nicwoolfe3885]

Ooh, looks like convoluted timeline shenanigans! I’m in!

[@romainsavioz5466]

That's until chronoa shows up

[@joxerd]

At least there is not character fast enough to broke the time barrier causing the effect of a time boom that effect every characters in some way.

[@harnoorsingh1482]

I would say that dragon ball super's one big flow was a weak narrative structure , sure it had amazing moments , but it wasn't like Z , in z and og dragon ball , the structure was so well defined and having amazing moments which seemed insignificant at that time , but became amazing after it ended , which we appreciate in a retrospective

[@zye4809]

@Zouni Yeah having Goten and Trunks be kids still and have them basically do nothing even as filler kinda sucks.

[@zye4809]

@Zouni That's the other problem I had with RoF/Super, making Gotenks a joke and bitching Gohan soooo much to where he could barely hold SSJ and got folded by first form Freiza in a few seconds.

[@michaelakers7756]

@@zye4809 it makes no sense how gohan can barely train over the 7 year timeskip and easily transform to ssj2 but in a year he can barely go into ssj

[@zye4809]

@@michaelakers7756 *Half assed training and not training at all are two different things my guy.*

[@michaelakers7756]

@@zye4809 still seven years is much longer than a year you would think he would have more trouble transforming

[@GTdba]

The Cappuccino with Symbolism nourished my Hype and brought up to... Krillin’s stinky shoes! OF COURSE!!!

[@MasakoX]

Finally! Someone else who gets it! I can never look at a frothy coffee the same way again.

[@EmperorIC]

@@MasakoX could there be a timeline where a victorious cell is running around and a goku black meet?

[@Deoxys911]

@@EmperorIC There certainly needs to be!

[@EmperorIC]

@@Deoxys911 makes me wonder how cell would handle it

[@PapaPodo]

I never had difficulty understanding the multiverse stuff in that arc

[@MasakoX]

Then Toei needs to hire you.

[@PapaPodo]

@@MasakoX the only timeline I had no knowledge of was that missing trunks timeline

[@Vince-A-N-O]

Having a PhD on Steins; Gate does help

[@PapaPodo]

@Rico Santiago stfu. Nobody needs your negativity

[@z_movie_dan]

Same

[@SleepingTroubles]

I love time travel, trying to understand these things is part of the fun. There are instances that we can't even understand because it's a paradox, like in Marvel comics X-Men regarding Cable and Apocalypse and who infected who with the technorganic virus.

[@dididhdbhe]

Same

[@Jodipo]

Anyone else wishes that Super took place after the End of Z? That way the threats would feel more dangerous, as we wouldn't knew that everyone would be ok in the end.

[@maureenamadasun8779]

Ikr. And Adult Goten And Trunks.....Uub......

[@Jodipo]

@@maureenamadasun8779 Also Pan and Bra.

[@mex321]

But we already know everyone would be okay in the end, its Dragonball.

[@maureenamadasun8779]

@@Jodipo so much Potential it makes Gohan look like Chiaotzu

[@maureenamadasun8779]

@@mex321 gt....

[@lizbizwiz1238]

*Before the Video*: Okay, different timelines. Here we go. I’ve watched plenty of time travel stories to see where this is going. *After the Video*:......Huh?

[@herokid11]

I know right? At this point, I'll just nod whenever someone talks about DBZ timelines. I can't even.

[@blackashketsoup7330]

How you managed to make this video without spontaneously combusting is a feat in and of itself. 1. Time ring logic is BROKEN 2. There needs to be a Timeline Tournament Arc (Universe 7 locked) 3. Zamasu needs a better backstory

[@MasakoX]

Hav and I had a real headscratcher making this one.

[@desertsandfly2277]

There is a fan manga called DB multiverse which answers your point #2 however the events of super never took place in it.

[@SSJNathanDavies]

#2.? Isn't that what the Multiverse Manga does

[@dannylopez5976]

There wasn't really anything wrong with Zamasu's story, he just wasn't shown as sympathetic as some people would want in a story like this.

[@blackashketsoup7330]

@@SSJNathanDavies is it that obvious? 🤣

[@KrownKangz]

The Time Crisis Arc would sound awesome and maybe the “Missing” Trunks would be revealed to be Xeno Trunks

[@alphawolf7417]

I would've respected the Zamasu arc a lot more if instead of going to a timeline where another Trunks and Mai existed, Chronoa would show up and offer them both to join the Time Patrol. It would've made a lot more sensse and actually been a cool tie in.

[@ianthecoolthief6226]

Here's the main timelines The GT Timeline (The Z Fighters stopped Sorbet's crew from ressurecting Frieza) The Super Timeline (The current timeline)

[@taylormaxey7371]

I now understand Beerus and Whis’ reaction to seeing the time machine much better 😂

[@KevinG3699]

Masako, you can do any kind of what if and it will make me happy. I love your stories no matter how silly or serious you make them because I enjoy the heart you put into it.

[@stefanradebach2889]

I honestly think that Future Trunks should have been left alone really because that arc in Super ended up invalidate everything he accomplished in the Android and Cell Arcs of Z which is really frustrating to me.

[@TheBossManBoss319]

Yes, we are DEFINITELY interested in a what if for time line 5!

[@BuuTube]

As soon as Masako said Future Trunks coming to warn about Goku Black might *not* be Timeline 2 Trunks, Buu immediately thought: *HIS HAIR!!!!!*

[@rokkraljkolesa9317]

that... actually explains it somewhat

[@BuuTube]

@@rokkraljkolesa9317 right? *Twilight Zone Theme Music Plays*

[@turkeysandwich1703]

Funnily enough, I’m pretty sure Gowasu says that only certain deities are allowed to mess with time, so he might’ve hinted at Khronoa being canon all along

[@mr.boomguy]

Honestly, It's these Big Brain moments that I love Things to think about and try and make sense, getting lost in your thoughts, and forgetting about... well... Time.

[@Zaixven]

I don't remember where I first read the idea, but I loved when all the speculation about Black's origin started. Someone had stated the theory of Black actually being a Goku that was for lack of a better term raised and corrupted by Zamasu instead of just being body snatched again. And I really liked the idea of the gang having to face a REAL version of Goku that showed you what would happened if even our fun loving saiyan had just the absolute worst to guide him in life. Maybe even offering a few moments of being disturbed on Goku's part to see a possibility of what he could have been without Gohan, Roshi and his family.

[@Bonzothefifth]

Cool! I knew you'd eventually make this video if I waited long enough. Really glad to see it!

[@Pravaification]

Honestly I think it would be hilarious if Cells from the stray timelines started showing up, only to be obliterated by God Goku/Vegeta and Mystic-er Gohan

[@KillKing12]

Or a cell that shows up with God ki, or some mutated perfect form

[@pghchaos]

What if the trunks that we got in super isn't the same Future trunks. What if the purple hair trunks that we know and love isn't the one who came back but one of these alternate versions of trunks. maybe the other timeline that super trunks got sent to by Weis is the one that has our true trunks in it.

[@mr.boomguy]

Oh boy. That would be quite thrilling. Then again, why didn't our main cast ask about it. Are they literally just fixing all the Trunks' timelines xD? And so, Our Future Trunks has a lot of questions for this Future Trunks are your head spinning yet?

[@ProjektTaku]

@@mr.boomguy the blue hair future trunks when through everything the purple hair trunks when through including the time travel but when he went back the second time he when into our main timeline witch the purple hair trunks changed so the blue haired trunk is not the one from dragon ball z

[@pghchaos]

@@mr.boomguy we're going down a path where we'll know what timeline we're in by the color of Bulma or Trunk's hair.

[@ifyourewonderingyesiamreta1640]

What

[@deathstrokereddex8331]

That's deep

[@autumbreeze1129]

Yeah, the fact you rarely see blood whenever the characters have had the hefl beaten out of them, it does make it less interesting and less investing. Plus, what happened to powerful punches to the gut causing blood spitting? Now it's just spit spitting, no matter how hard the punches

[@lesscringeymapperdude]

their body got stronger via higher power level

[@autumbreeze1129]

@@lesscringeymapperdude nope. That is no excuse. Even 18 and 17 would bleed when beaten up enough in Z and in Super they don't even bleed once during the Turnoment of Power.

[@lesscringeymapperdude]

@@autumbreeze1129 ki buildup for better defense. also cuz less blood gets more watch time from younger audiences

[@autumbreeze1129]

@@lesscringeymapperdude sorry, but I'm currently rewatching Super alongside the movies and while Goku pre God Ki bleeds after his first battle with Beerus in the movie, in Super itself, despite it still being pre God Ki, Goku didn't bleed once. Ki build up doesn't explain the lack of blood, especially since even non Saiyans don't bleed in Super. Chi Chi, Goten, Trunks, Piccolo, Krillin, even freaking Yamcha, NONE of them bleed in Super no matter how much pain they take. Even after being hit with a bullet Videl doesn't bleed. Heck, if you wanna go further, Future Trunks doesn't have God Ki and no matter how much of a beating he took from Black he didn't even spill a drop of blood. Black, who HAS GOD KI, wasn't able to make a simple mortal Saiyan bleed? No. That does NOT work for Dragonball. And, no, aiming for younger audiences is no excuse, not when they also act like we're supposed to take Super even more seriously than Z since the stakes are now supposed to be higher than they've ever been in Dragonball history. Heck, even the original Dragonball had blood, so Super not having it makes even less sense. The fact there's no blood EVER, means the fights feel hollow, like they mean nothing. It's why I felt nothing shortly into the Tournament of Power, because, despite so many uber powerful fighters and the LITERAL THREAT OF UNIVERSAL ERASURE for losing, no blood made it feel like there were no stakes whatsoever. Unless Super starts taking itself seriously, it's going to become the Simpsons of the Dragonball franchise: quantity over quality. And don't even get me started on how, despite a decade having passed in Universe from the end of the Buu Saga to the Broly movie, Goten and Trunks haven't aged a single day despite the fact they should be close to early adulthood by now

[@genkaiba15]

I like the idea that purple and blue-haired Trunks are separate time travellers. Very satisfying. Nice work

[@jamessicard1705]

Also the Heroes/Xenoverse suggests that the missing future timeline (ik the manga isn't canon but I wanted to say it anyways) where Supreme Kai of Time pulls Trunks out of the time stream and into the Time Nest

[@derelictor]

I thought I understood time travels on both Z and Super until now, thanks for the headache

[@tmasm.418]

I would so be down to see You do what ifs on all of these timelines and shiz

[@blackashketsoup7330]

The ENTIRE Black arc needs to be remade.

[@MasakoX]

It really does.

[@maureenamadasun8779]

@@MasakoX zamasu shouldn’t even have been a thing

[@blackashketsoup7330]

@@MasakoX of course, Toriyama and Toyotaro didn't have access to Avengers Endgame logic

[@beast0339]

2:14 Obligatory Doctor Who reference! (I can honestly imagine The Doctor hounding Trunks for messing around with timelines)

[@Chikararyoku]

Trunks and Time, two things that don't go hand in hand Trunks just grabbed Time's hand and didn't let go

[@anshumanrath6703]

That's why trunks is apprentice of supreme kai of time

[@Alucard-A-La-Carte]

"Beerus unmaking Zamasu" is a helluvan underrated moment from the Goku Black arc. We get to see a God of Destruction unleash in the way a god should: not with a bunch of taunting and pomp and explosions, but just making something..."not to be."

[@Boomstick836]

You called it! I did get a headache trying to figure out all the timelines 😂

[@The-Determined-Ninja]

8:02 Actually, Bulma's hair was *Originally* lavender _as well_ , so if anything it's keeping with the 'Genes' or just a "correction."

[@maureenamadasun8779]

What if bulma and yamcha had a kid in the Timeskip before Raditz?

[@MindlessFilmsStudios]

Yoooo I want to see this!!!

[@MindlessFilmsStudios]

They do Yamcha too dirty now 😭 he shoulda been in the Universal Survival Tournament

[@zuchiniesue6970]

@@MindlessFilmsStudios I agree with you about YAMACHA being in the Tournament of power

[@maureenamadasun8779]

@@MindlessFilmsStudios ikr my fav character

[@codyhahn2013]

Yeah would have been cool to see wolf fang fist

[@daytonchris8351]

yeah that's what i've been thinking for a few years now too. that super's timeline isn't the same one from z. super's goku acts way weirder to my and way more childish than z's goku.

[@Bilal-gj5el]

ayo my boy masakoX

[@jonathangordon1457]

Next time we talk about timeliness, can you use a chart? This hurts my brain parts.

[@PacoTheeTacoo]

Always look forward to a Masako video with my coffee

[@mathieuleader8601]

In a way, Commander Red and his actions with the Red Ribbon Army, including his personal objective of becoming taller, was indirectly responsible for the Android attack in Future Trunks' timeline as well as the main timeline. Similarly, it also indirectly caused Zamasu's Project Zero Mortals to be jump-started due to Future Trunks' time-traveling.

[@thecrowe20]

Universe 12 having the first time machine also means even more timelines were probably made.

[@zen1210]

The missing Trunks may be from Xenoverse or heroes who actually got summoned by Supreme kai of time after his first visit

[@kiddicarus]

We always think about THAT @ 7:54... Just can't seem to get over it...Nor should we, unless "blue-haired" is truly a different Trunks. Enjoy! Thanks for the video.

[@ryudragon7]

You should make the what-if timeline, Masako. Make it as victorious or as dark(like what if the farmer beat Raditz) as you wish.

[@Sixlildon]

What about timeline 4 is the gt timeline.the reason they didnt tell is because its non cannon. Could they introduce that timeline when the anime comes back

[@Tyler-hn1yx]

Great video, keep it up my friend

[@Splub]

I would love to see a What If of that Fifth Trunks. He's still shrouded in that mystery aura that Trunks had when he originally appeared.

[@Gypsygeekfreak17]

hey masako why dont you make a video about what akira could do next something about the after life janimba a old enemy came back..tuffles cooler crossing over dimensions

[@PersianSlashuur]

7:48 "That's the moment that things start to get not only more confusing, but it actually causes your head to hurt." Me, who already has a headache: Oh...GREAT.

[@danielbibbey7272]

I have a question: Piccolo mentioned he has work to do in the episode Goku's Ki is Out of Control?! Looking After Pan is a Lot of Trouble. What does he actually do other than train?

[@thomaspierce4640]

Careful Masako talking about timelines causes Toei's hackles to get stirred up. PlagueOfGripes had an excellent video/rant about it and they specifically had the video taken down haha

[@TheJxR]

By that logic any little change is its own timeline, Yamcha had the soup alone instead of the salad alone.

[@ThanatosZero]

I wish to ask the following: Are you going to do a review of Chrono Trigger at one point?

[@BuuTube]

okay. Finished video. Brain hurts now. Need chocolate...

[@zuchiniesue6970]

Hi buu didn't expect to run into you until tomorrow...Here have some CHOCOLATE donuts here me: holds up a box of donuts 🥯🥯🥯🥯🥯🥯🥯

[@BuuTube]

@@zuchiniesue6970 Buu basically all over Dragon Ball KZbin. Try to get in early, say hi and thank you to creator while they're still paying attention to new video. *YUMMY DONUTS!!!!!*

[@zuchiniesue6970]

I did get them for my breakfast but I think I will eat later so bye buu me: gives buu the box of donuts and Flies away...me: I still haven't eaten anything since last night

[@zuchiniesue6970]

I really need to get some food...to bad No one really remembers tomorrow is my birthday...me: upset and still Hungry looks down sadly

[@xxOnigiri99]

With the possible amount of cells running around in different timelines could easily make for a return of him in the series. Specially because an alternate timeline could explain why his design is changed, why he is more powerful, different or has another form

[@joshualowe959]

I remember the Zamasu saga. It was serious, dark, action packed, suspenseful & tragic.

[@froklsnt]

The way you construct your timelines here has a simplifying assumption : that you don't get another splintered-off timeline from Trunks' second trip back in the Cell Arc. The trip where he spends a year in the chamber, goes Grade 3, DIES, etc. Each of your sets of timelines needs another one added if the second trip splits things again, and I can't see why it wouldn't.

[@cjkalandek996]

It was difficult to get at first, but you eventually understand how the timeliness work in DBS.

[@derek5848]

Hey Masako, since you are talking about timelines I wanted to tell you a what-if idea I have had for a while, I dont have any name for it but the idea of the what-if is that what if the other cells from the timelines reunited (with the time machine obviously) and if they could get abilities (like cell originally did from the cells of the z fighters) of the namekians and maybe create a stronger being, with namekian fusion. :^ I'm sure nobody will like this idea since my ideas suck lol but Its ok.

[@psibernight2177]

The missing future trunks is the one in Xenoverse. The first ep of the original Dragon Ball series states "Far away in a land that seemed untouched by the steady march of time..." I've always assumed that what ever future apocalypses caused humanity to reset the calendar was the same one that warped the space-time continuum. Hence why there are dinosaurs and robots.

[@Drake_TheSlayerVO]

Hey MasakoX I need your help, Can you tell me something about the fallen Angel Merno arc????? I'm really confused if it's the manga canon or not 🤷‍♂️😰

[@deathstrokereddex8331]

I thought there were 4 timelines before DBS, the one were the Z Fighters live and still going onwards, the one were the Z Fighters won against the androids without Cell happening, Cell's timeline and Future Trunks's timeline.

[@angelensastegui5584]

Does anyone remember that DB Multiverse kinda answer what happened with cell's timeline? It makes sense on why trunks lost again imperfect cell, how that travel went down and if goku survived the heart virus.

[@b1acksteve]

As Deadpool said, "These timelines are so confusing."

[@serowisetheultimatelifefro6201]

Hey Masako ! Can you do an "what if DBZ goku teleported to DBZ GT!! And If you want to make two gokus fights then it should be obvious on who will win like (SUPER) Goku's God from (The one with red hair) is basically SSJ 5 with god ki

[@z_movie_dan]

I actually get the timetravel here, but timetravel fiction happens to be one of my favorites. The odd thing with Dragon Ball is that you have both multiple universes and timelines. There was a future universe 6, 11, etc.

[@crisisamonginfinitedarthsa4220]

Hey, 5.00 USD Masako talks about the Goku kissing situation.

[@JustJoeKing5]

@Shawn Lamb he’s betting 5 United States dollars that masako talks about a scene in super (I believe the 2nd time goku and vegeta went to the future) when trucks chewed up a sensu bean and fed it to Mai via mouth to mouth and goku asked about it saying that he never kissed anybody

[@gears265]

What if maskox was in dragon ball. gt and super time line. am curious on what changes you would try to make to help the zfighters.

[@TheMrasil]

random question,,, with cell haveing a time line that allows him to keep the time machein n wander the time line,, then what would happen if perfict cell absorbs each of his forms

[@MarcBienenfeld]

definitely interested in a what if on the other future trunks

[@kotlolish]

Cell vs Zamasu.. personally would be cool a vs. Cell being the "Ultimate thing mortals made with science" vs "Zamasu zero mortal plan" Heck Cell vs Buu would be interresting too since it's Science vs Magic.

[@ChrisBryer]

I always thought that Super Trunks was not the same Trunks from Z. It's not just the hair color, it's also that fact that his body type is not the same. Also, the fact that Mai is there also shows it came be the same.

[@TheGuyWhoIsSitting]

What if Goku wished back Grandpa Gohan? I don't know when the earliest possible time to do that would be, Namek?

[@RealAndyMiami]

the 5th trunks chilling somewhere with Suzuha from steins;gate

[@ironwox]

Each jump in time creates a different timeline. So just count how many jumps happened and you get the answer on how many timelines are there

[@mortalballgt52]

Thanks Masako. You gave me an aneurysm.

[@RabidKanid]

I don’t really understand your explanation of timelines. Can you provide a diagram or something that shows the time splits and explains them?

[@EA-bv8zk]

I rewinded this part 2:59 like 5 times to properly process this. Please can someone explain the 5th timeline I'm confused

[@1Grumi]

Timeline 5 would be the real original timeline. But I think this could only be explained, that every time one travels back in time you land in a dublicated timeline. Something like timeline 3 is the timeline where the Trunks from timeline 5 only appears once, not twice. Therefore they are not able to defeat the androis in timeline 3 and Trunks from Timeline 3 travels back in time and ends up in timeline 4(you know the rest.) But that would mean, that there needs to be a 6th timeline where Trunks from timeline 5 appears a second time. (This would also cause two more dublicate timelines without a second Trunks appearance). I hope this makes any sence(I think not).

[@StupidMarioBros1Fan]

"There's a Cell out there with a time machine." Now that right there is a good start for a What If, actually a couple since you could have him go into the past or future.

[@1Grumi]

I'd like this. However the way I understand the timetravel in db the only interesting timeline he could reach with the timemachine would be a timeline similar to timeline 4. I mean this would still be interesting. You would have a perfect cell in a timeline where no one knows him yet.

[@ObiClon]

I am the Luffy thinking meme when it comes to trying to figure it all out. And the best solution to it all is to go the Mystery Science Theatre 3000 approach: "repeat yourself it's just a show & I should really just relax."

[@froklsnt]

🎶Just repeat to yourself, "it's just a show, I should really just relax" 🎶 😁

[@gokuuzumaki8307]

Would Future Trunks' timeline would be erased since Goku wouldn't be there to give Zeno the idea for the ToP. Shouldn't Future Trunks U7 be erased since it's the same beerus and Shin

[@shadowsnake8989]

I am going to have to listen to this a few more times because time travel is a bit confusing.

[@ShadowEclipex]

Here is a theory, 5th Timeline Trunks is Xeno Trunks! He gets displaced while time traveling somehow and finds himself inside the Time Nest. It would explain why he vanished and give an explanation for Xeno Trunks. If you do go into all these Alternate Timelines it could be fun to see one of them having a Cell Black Zamasu.

[@Austation4850]

Have you watched qaaman video on timeline theory there’s is only four it’s helps out a lot to explain things as well

[@Hc2p3n4t4rp]

best time travel in media I know, One Piece, only forward on time, NEVER backwards

[@Merkz803]

Super’s timeline started after perfect cells death but before frieza’s second return that’s when it all got mixed up , but the only way I could see super and GT cross path is with the time ring..deeper than it seems

[@thelastuchiha6342]

Hay when is the next dragon ball R&R episode coming

[@kiracodinson]

The lost trunks show's up as a secret team member in the Chrono Trigger remake as does Cell as a boss. (I wish)

[@PaulyRules]

I’m a huge dragon ball fan and I just bought all the super episodes and I’m on the universe 6 tournament and I love it.

[@sammydray5919]

PlagueOfGripes did a great video on the timeline shenanigans in dragon ball z and super.

[@captain_dsz6049]

ahhh the timeline theories, i think it was blackenfist who had a really indepth look at main future trunks cell and unseen timelines

[@AgentKyo]

I just don't understand why one of my favorite characters of all time had to get his happy ending ruin? How could anyone think that was remotely acceptable?

[@speedyspider5426]

Was there ever an explanation as to when and where xeno trunks joined or which one he is maybe he might be 5 amd had to have his time shenanigans removed but was willing to cooperate since he saw he could help more people and there were timelines where he beat the androids(the og timeline or the avenged gohan timeline as i call it) just a thought.

[@z-man1237]

The hardest thing for me to understand about super is that it won’t ever measure up to Z

[@RacingSnails64]

I never expected it to... I always took Super as just "more Dragonball." It's nice to have just a bunch of Dragonball content to come back to. It can be fun, even interesting, but of course Z was a better story overall.

[@z-man1237]

@@RacingSnails64 Yep