The Harris Campaign Begins | 538 Politics Podcast

[@cradio52]

Crazy that 538 decided to downgrade the production value of their podcast during not just an election cycle, but *THIS* election cycle 😅

[@IanZainea1990]

Hey I'm a video editor. Over 10 years experience. I'd be happy to be hired to cut your podcast videos. 😊😊 Looking for work right now anyhow.

[@steveyoung9687]

I imagine ABC is too cheap for that (they supposedly fired their previous editor to save cash) - they're slowly killing the 538 brand unfortunately.

[@foraminutethere23]

​@@steveyoung9687 good. I find it hard to trust them with their model predicting Biden v. Trump a 50/50. I'm sure it would work fine for younger candidates though

[@steveyoung9687]

@@foraminutethere23 Yeah, the model is garbage now since G. Elliott Morris was hired to replace Nate - I'm sure another cost cutting measure. I still enjoy the commentary from the rest of the 538 crew. Too bad they have to try to explain that garbage model when it's back.

[@Luke-kq8gh]

@@steveyoung9687It isn’t, like they explained polls don’t affect the model much until september. Polls this early barely matter

[@steveyoung9687]

No video? ABC makes 538 so much worse every day.

[@dane9398]

real

[@c0rnd0g_19]

Yeah, this is so unfortunate.

[@CoolDogsify]

No thanks to Disney!

[@MrInkblots]

Is this like a running joke or something? Why does anyone care about a video of these guys talking via zoom? People make this comment on every damn episode - I assume for years.

[@nomadpurple6154]

@@MrInkblots the video was recently removed. Hence the comments. Up until a month or so ago, all discussions had video.

[@flippert0]

ABC does not know what todo with 538.

[@steveyoung9687]

My money is on they lay them all off and just use the name for their normal election coverage.

[@onelemonadestand]

It’s absurd for people to think immigration is more important than climate but I personally am constantly angry that so few people care about that very critical existential issue. It’s “existential” because of how much it threatens our very existence

[@realCyng]

Immigration is way more of a threat. Climate crazies have been saying we're 5 years away from extinction for 50 years.

[@iandutta5622]

US isn't nearly the top contributor to climate change

[@yolandacarrillo3681]

Because our country doesn't read. In the case of MAGA, they listen to people like Trump who spreads the conspiracy theory that climate change is a hoax. Trump doesn't care about people's health. He only cares about helping the 1% who pour millions into his campaign coffers because it benefits their profits.

[@jdaviddejesusadon3629]

Most people don’t have the time to worry about climate. It’s kind unfair to ask people to worry about abstract problems that are difficult to connect to bread and butter issues. How can you get angry at humans tribal instincts? Is like being angry at a barking dog.

[@ChrisCapoccia]

Not absurd. Immigration is a human rights problem now caused by Americans meddling and destabilizing countries in Central and South America. Climate change is some intractable problem impacting the future

[@shaynedonnelly9596]

You should do video so hearing disabled people can tell who's talking.

[@petertomshany]

Off-topic, but four unskippable ads in the first 10 minutes of a KZbin video?

[@petertomshany]

Total of 8 in the less than 40 minute video. I blame KZbin, not 538podcast

[@steveyoung9687]

@@petertomshany The content provider chooses the ad frequency. This falls squarely on ABC.

[@milespq5561]

Need a Veepstakes draft from the crew ASAP

[@TheTwenty42]

3:47 "We don't like to publish averages/models before the nominees are certain." You literally had a Trump v. Biden model.

[@JDHutchison]

I totally get what you mean, but there is a technical distinction. Biden was presumptive with official delegate commitments. Kamala has not has “promises” from delegates. While I’d agree that difference is semantic at this point, I can understand how someone would go with just a tad more caution.

[@steveyoung9687]

It was garbage anyways. 538's new model practically ignores the polls.

[@JohnDuffy16]

​@@JDHutchisonDon't they talk about potential matchups all the time? What is a forecast If not an estimate of what is going to happen in the future? 😅

[@CommonSenz]

@@JohnDuffy16they don’t want to endorse Kamala with a poll.. that’s it

[@TheTwenty42]

@@JDHutchison Given that Kamala has secured the two thirds majority of delegates by commitment as of Wednesday, she seems to be as "certain" to be the nominee as Biden was. It's fine if they want to take a couple weeks to let the polls congeal, but they don't have to frame it in some weird ethical posture.

[@courtneybrubaker9738]

Zoom fundraising event called "White Women: Answer the Call" witnessed record-breaking participation by the supporters of US Vice President Kamala Harris on Thursday night where 164,000 participants. raised over 2 million USD for the presumptive Democratic candidate in the upcoming electoral battle under 90 minutes. This was the third massive Zoom call for Harris. The previous fundraising events by Zoom welcomed 44,000 Black women and 50,000 Black men and raised 1.5 million USD and 1.3 million USD, respectively.

[@NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi]

Childless cat ladies for Harries!!!

[@jackkazinsky290]

you didnt include the video, wtf

[@sarawithoutanh8302]

What are you? A CHILDLESS CAT LADY?!? That’s all I could think at that opening. 🤭

[@bearcubdaycare]

Needs more cat bell 🔔

[@oldasrocks9121]

Wait, is a childless cat lady participating in this conversation? Is she truly commited??...

[@mryan89]

😂

[@AlfCalson]

. 🥥🌴🦅 KAMALA HARRIS 🦅💙🌊

[@AlfCalson]

Kamala Harris made her “coconut tree” remarks on May 10, 2023 at the White House while swearing in the President’s Advisory Commission on Advancing Educational Equity, Excellence, and Economic Opportunity for Hispanics. “My mother used to - she would give us a hard time sometimes, and she would say to us, ‘I don’t know what’s wrong with you young people. You think you just fell out of a coconut tree?’” Harris said, while laughing. “You exist in the context of all in which you live and what came before you.”

[@rwrunning1813]

10:49 Who in the world is viewing Biden as "very liberal?" He's bare minimum from my perspective. If what the Biden administration is doing is too "liberal" and too "far left," it's genuinely over for this country. Period.

[@szurketaltos2693]

The Overton window has moved a ton unfortunately.

[@jfwrg3461]

This confuses me, because all I ever hear from left wingers online is how he is the most progressive president ever. Clearly there is a perception, on the left and the right, that he is further from a moderate than anyone would have expected during his run in 2020.

[@Drahkir9]

@@jfwrg3461well yeah cause the bar is so low. We haven’t had a progressive president since what. FDR?!

[@szurketaltos2693]

@@Drahkir9 LBJ, imo.

[@onelemonadestand]

Wasn’t she in charge specifically of working with Latin American countries to minimize the need for immigration

[@_PatrickO]

If so, that means she is the one who successfully convinced ecuador to stop allowing visa-less travel to chinese nationals. That was a huge win that was necessary because it was only needed due to republicans blocking the border bill. Chinese people were flying to ecuador and paying their way up to mexico where they would drive to the border, cross, and surrender to claim asylum. The border bill would have made it so these people are flown back to china, but because trump blocked it, the chinese were still able to keep doing this. The biden admin had to get ecuador to change its visa policy just to protect our border.

[@NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi]

She was the Border Czar

[@vapx0075]

@@NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi No, she was not the 'border czar' that is not even a thing. Yes, her job was to talk to those people and see about what they could do together to minimize the crossings.

[@NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi]

@@vapx0075 if you love illegals and inflation vote Kamala!

[@onelemonadestand]

@@NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi NO SHE WASNT

[@TheKraken5360]

I think its hard to predict what positions Harris will take because she doesn't really believe anything. She believes whatever she thinks is politically expedient for her.

[@starlav.933]

So... she's a politician? You don't have to believe in a political position to act on it. Trump is a prime example of that. How many abortions has he had to pay for, I wonder? 🤔 JD Vance is another: from never Trumper to kissing the ring, because it was politically expedient for him. Gross. 🤮

[@stephaniebrooks8044]

Haven't heard nuthin about Project 2025 on this podcast!!??

[@969Lokisan]

That's how good microphones get these days!° :)

[@fungfrancis7156]

Is the presidential election a contest of hypocrisy? What? You think you can just repackage her with a piece of new gift wrap paper people will forget what she have said and haven't said? what she have done and haven't done? It's an insult to human intelligence.

[@vapx0075]

WAITING for you to apply that same standard to TFG.

[@BenSmith-mg5jv]

Just watched a group of 12, 50-65 yr old, white men and women voters in THE swing state of Pennsylvania get asked if they wanted to see Future President Elect Harris debate Don-OLD Trump and 3 of the men and nearly all of the women in synchronicity while laughing in a, " she'll DESTROY Agent Orange, " type of laugh said, " oh yeah! " It was fantastic!

[@robrick9361]

...just like when she destroyed Tulsi Gabbard in 2020 right?

[@BenSmith-mg5jv]

@@robrick9361 THIS AIN'T THEN and TRUMP ain't TULSHMEE. COME ON MAN!

[@robrick9361]

@@BenSmith-mg5jv Exactly Trump is even more aggressive and rude. Harris had trouble handling Gabbard, how is it logical to think she would do any better against a guy who doesn't care about being respectful.

[@NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi]

@@robrick9361wishful thinking

[@christianmalone3495]

I, too, am just barely a "young voter!"

[@chrisrecord5625]

You can use the ever-ready asterisk now even though Harris has not been formally elected. Geez....

[@larryye5066]

8 seconds ago is diabolical

[@IanZainea1990]

35:38 northeast OHIO! Yay!!

[@joshuamatkin8306]

538 being neutral because theres no data yet, but we all feel the wind change

[@christopherplunz7779]

Nobody cares of 538 !

[@j.s.c.4355]

Obama was a great speaker. Even people who weren’t part of his natural coalition were inspired when he spoke. Harris is a terrible speaker. People have to have a reason to vote for her other than, “I like her when she speaks.”

[@NicholsonNeisler-fz3gi]

But she’s a Jamaican-Indian woman!!!

[@wrepresent]

Have you heard Trump speak ?

[@brendatenorio5721]

Fundamentals havent changed. Issues and demographics and increased number if swing states still in play.

[@jaisriram295]

Democrats talk about saving democracy then deny their party members a vote on who will represent them for the presidency in 2024 😂

[@onpegpocketedition2640]

For 200 years that’s exactly how our presidential candidates were chosen. There’s nothing undemocratic about parties choosing their nominees however they wish.

[@brandonm949]

Harris was part of the ticket that won the primary. And if people aren't happy about her as the nominee, they can vote against her in the general election.

[@starlav.933]

Dude, keep up. The party is united behind Harris. Keep wasting your breath on yesterday's argument

[@zacharyflint7901]

They did vote; in the primaries. Biden-Harris, she was chosen just as much as he was.

[@jaisriram295]

@@zacharyflint7901 no he was chosen you don't have primaries in pairs 🤣

[@jamesmcknight6440]

Why is kamala Harris still using the Air Force one, when she became a nominee for president, she is no longer vice-president, she automatically loses her position, is anyone seeing this

[@stephaniebrooks8044]

Actually, she has her own plane! She doesn't need Air Force one!

[@vapx0075]

That's ridiculous.

[@stephaniebrooks8044]

@vapx0075 Look it up. The V. P has her own plane. And they also never fly together!!

[@Tsxtasy1]

If the choice is Trump or Harris, I just won’t vote.

[@nomadpurple6154]

Sulking in your room because you didn't get exactly what you wanted.

[@starlav.933]

Maybe there are some down-ballot candidates who will be perfect enough to earn your vote. The president isn't the only person on the ballot, and down-ballot races will directly affect you where you live

[@vapx0075]

You gonna wait for the 'perfect' candidate it will never happen.

[@Tsxtasy1]

@@vapx0075 no, I’m waiting for a candidate that’s at least mediocre. Both of these choices are a problem for the country. At least Biden just deferred to his cabinet.