The Harrow and Wealdstone Rail Crash | A Short Documentary | Fascinating Horror

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Fascinating Horror

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@vustvaleo8068
@vustvaleo8068 2 жыл бұрын
that boy scout who helped but was still worried he is absent from school thus needed someone to write a letter for his absence is wholesome.
@katwil89
@katwil89 2 жыл бұрын
I know. I loved his smile in his photo. What a sweet boy!
@gidi3250
@gidi3250 2 жыл бұрын
Well considering the time period this happend in he would have received a lashing by his teacher/principal for not going to school, who then most likely would have contacted his parents to inform them about their son not going to school who would most likely given the 50's also administer a similar punishment.
@billp4
@billp4 2 жыл бұрын
@@gidi3250 damn right! Little Hooligan.
@C-Here
@C-Here 2 жыл бұрын
@@billp4 😅😅😅
@scrappydoo7887
@scrappydoo7887 2 жыл бұрын
That'll happen when getting the cane is a thing lol
@classicmicroscopy9398
@classicmicroscopy9398 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressive that a kid could handle the sheer horror of the scene let alone handle it well enough to locate survivors and inform his school of his absence.
@ShadowsandCityLights
@ShadowsandCityLights 2 жыл бұрын
The quality of humans have really gone down hill.
@miz_logo_lee
@miz_logo_lee 2 жыл бұрын
@@ShadowsandCityLights ok boomer.
@thebigdog2295
@thebigdog2295 2 жыл бұрын
@@miz_logo_lee you know that you just proved his point with your comment. I'm sure you're the type that would help out if you witnessed something like this. By taking video and posting it on social media platforms.
@stormbornapostle5188
@stormbornapostle5188 2 жыл бұрын
People were made of sterner stuff back then.
@blackosprey2219
@blackosprey2219 2 жыл бұрын
Some folks are just built different.
@markmckinney6168
@markmckinney6168 2 жыл бұрын
Nurse Sweetwine served in the Air Force during WWII, Korea, and Vietnam, finally retiring as a USAF major. She passed at 87 in 2009. An honest-to-God hero who deserves to be better known.
@katiekane5247
@katiekane5247 2 жыл бұрын
Agree!
@goawayleavemealone2880
@goawayleavemealone2880 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this update, she was clearly a remarkable woman and now some more people know of her heroism... with a chance for yet more to learn about her.
@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing
@iwaswrongabouteveryhthing 2 жыл бұрын
What a woman
@ItsJustLisa
@ItsJustLisa 2 жыл бұрын
She definitely deserves to be better known.
@TheAPTGamer
@TheAPTGamer 2 жыл бұрын
A hero doesn't aid soldiers in imperialist wars
@Moontess
@Moontess 2 жыл бұрын
That boy scout Gilbert really went above and beyond - and I loved how he still had the presence of mind to ask a nurse for a note to explain why he was late.
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 2 жыл бұрын
sadly I wouldn't expect that from the current youth as a whole but for a British lad in that day and age it's admirable but not unexpected.
@skunkrat01
@skunkrat01 2 жыл бұрын
You could say he was.... prepared 😎
@jamesrussell2936
@jamesrussell2936 2 жыл бұрын
Of course he did. Teachers back then didn't mess around.
@JadedShrew777
@JadedShrew777 2 жыл бұрын
What a brave boy. I wonder if he had any PTSD after that. I can imagine that it took him a while to get over it, even if he contributed positively to the outcome.
@crow-jane
@crow-jane 2 жыл бұрын
@@marvindebot3264 Do you do anything to inspire/teach the young folks you know to be ready helpers, or do you just bitch about them on the internet?
@Hannah_Em
@Hannah_Em 2 жыл бұрын
The story of Lt Abbie Sweetwine, the "Angel of Platform 6" is kind of amazing, I'd never heard of her before watching this video. A black female nurse being a commissioned officer in the US armed forces (or any predominantly white armed forces of the time, for that matter) stood out to me as nothing short of remarkable in the era of Jim Crow and segregation, before the US civil rights movement had picked up much momentum. As if her actions during the Harrow and Wealdstone crash weren't proof enough, simply getting to that point to be in the right place at the right time would be an incredible testament to her strength and ability! She was the only nurse of the Apparently the actions of Lt Sweetwine that day, along with the actions of the rest of the USAF team (in total, 7 doctors in addition to Nurse Sweetwine) are credited with inspiring the development and use of paramedics in the UK, something which I can personally attest has almost certainly saved my life more than once. The ideas of triage and marking patients with information (eg "have they been seen", "have they received morphine") weren't entirely novel at the time, but this crash was reportedly the first time that they'd been used in full-force in a civilian setting, before they were brought to wider public attention in the Korean war by the use and publicisation of things like the US' MASH units.
@davidsigalow7349
@davidsigalow7349 2 жыл бұрын
The U.S. military had been desegregated by President Truman in (if memory serves) 1947, and permitted many black Americans opportunities for advancement and recognition for their skills that were not always available in the private sector.
@ktkat1949
@ktkat1949 2 жыл бұрын
I believe you will find that all nurses were made commissioned officers as of 1947.
@halfbakedproductions7887
@halfbakedproductions7887 2 жыл бұрын
Paramedics are a surprisingly modern concept. The UK didn't have them until the early 1980s or so.
@ajo7009
@ajo7009 2 жыл бұрын
I want there to be a movie made about her.
@BennyLlama39
@BennyLlama39 2 жыл бұрын
I can't help wondering how many more fatalities there would be without Sweetwine's improvised-yet-effective indexing system. 🙂
@carynwaters9153
@carynwaters9153 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for telling these smaller stories from around the world no matter the year AND you do it without sensationalizing it. You have a wonderful National Geographic voice and your videos are captivating and interesting without being dramatic. Also I appreciate that these videos aren’t 45 min-hour long, they’re short, very informative and includes MANY different mediums of details. Overall you educate and give all details so there’s nothing left to Google and essentially keep A positive memory of the souls that passed, the survivors and the helpers. Thank you for all that you do, how you do it! Please don’t stop anytime soon! You’re appreciated ❤️
@ChefCT63
@ChefCT63 2 жыл бұрын
I agree 1000% with your comment. We are informed without the sensationalism that gets unnecessary attention. We're educated about historic tragedies that unfortunate as they are improve lives going forward.
@ElGato1947
@ElGato1947 2 жыл бұрын
Very well said, Caryn.
@Ryno2094
@Ryno2094 2 жыл бұрын
What a beautiful and well articulated comment, I wish there were more like you around.
@daffers2345
@daffers2345 2 жыл бұрын
I agree, there is no channel quite like this one. It's my favorite of the disaster vids.
@carynwaters9153
@carynwaters9153 2 жыл бұрын
@@daffers2345 there are some others that are great too but I prefer this one the best. Dark History, plainly difficult, brick immortar, and I feel like I’m missing one but I can’t remember lol. But this page is wonderful!
@MusicoftheDamned
@MusicoftheDamned 2 жыл бұрын
For being another disaster I had never heard of before, the intro to this one managed to be extra ominous in light of your two previous videos on the Great Smog and on that London metro accident where most people in the comments seemed to think the unfortunate operator had a type of seizure. Given how many trains were involved in this crash and their rates of speed, the most surprising thing to me is that "only" 112 people died given the amount of people involved.
@marvindebot3264
@marvindebot3264 2 жыл бұрын
I've read some reasonably extensive tracts on the subject and it was dumb luck it wasn't 3 times the dead.
@andyjay729
@andyjay729 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of mysterious rail disasters (that is, the 1975 Tube crash, not this one), FH should perhaps do a video on the Hinton train collision in Canada. The ultimate cause of that is still uncertain, but one likely explanation is sleep deprivation coupled with diabetes on the part of the engineer. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hinton_train_collision
@SilverIchimaru
@SilverIchimaru 2 жыл бұрын
@@andyjay729 that one was horrible and unfortunately not the only mysterious one. I don't think we'll ever know exactly what happened in that cab though. I agree though I'd love to see FH's take on Hinton.
@Lyngypsy2112
@Lyngypsy2112 2 жыл бұрын
3 trains, around 8.17am...7 mins late..Tring-Euston train stationary + Perth Express ploughed into the back of the train in the station travelling at around 55mph...Pacific Liverpool Express was hurtling at about 60ish mph in the opposite direction + ploughed into the Tring-Euston train from the other end...Crash caused by lack of human attention, fog/misty sunshine + signal failure...It's a rough answer, I know but unless I sit + read the whole book in 30mins, I had to gather what I could...The book I bought is called, The Harrow Railway Disaster 1952 by L.F.E. Coombs...Hope this helps...
@levelheaded0038
@levelheaded0038 2 жыл бұрын
I saw someone else mention this in the comments, but I wanted to add my piece. I like that you treat these stories as what they were: disasters. There are people who lost their lives and loved ones. You tell the stories in a factual, non-sensational way, and that’s what sets your channel apart from similar ones for me. Thank you for sharing
@aldranzam3456
@aldranzam3456 Жыл бұрын
YES! And it also makes it all the more interesting, because the linear narrative and clear technical explanations makes us understand why and how it happened, and how we can help to stop such disasters.
@spencerhardy8667
@spencerhardy8667 2 жыл бұрын
One other after effect of that crash was the UK ambulance services adopting the battlefield triage system rather than the previous "scoop and run" system, having noted how many casualties had been saved by immediate stabilisation by Sweetwine's team.
@halfbakedproductions7887
@halfbakedproductions7887 2 жыл бұрын
Paramedics are a modern thing and didn't really exist until the early 1980s. Before that your ambulance was just a van usually with a local GP riding shotgun. The ambulance drivers were just drivers and the GP wouldn't have had the right training. Things are better now.
@ItsJustLisa
@ItsJustLisa 2 жыл бұрын
@@halfbakedproductions7887, even here in the US, paramedics weren’t really a thing until the mid to late 70s. One of our major TV networks had a show that ran for about 6 or 7 years starting in 1970 or ‘71 about the fledgling paramedic program pioneered in Los Angeles County with the fire department. Select firefighters received emergency medical training, including starting IVs and drug administration, and use of emergency equipment. Interest was so high that fire departments along with hospitals began doing the same around the country and paramedics as well as EMTs (emergency medical technicians) became specialties of their own. That particular TV show, like CSI: Crime Scene Investigation, sparked post secondary (university level) degree programs that really hadn’t existed as unique specialties before then. I wouldn’t be surprised if Lt. Sweetwine’s expertise wasn’t tapped for those early paramedic training programs.
@AK-jt7kh
@AK-jt7kh 2 жыл бұрын
This is all really fascinating
@paulazemeckis7835
@paulazemeckis7835 Жыл бұрын
I believe the paramedic show you referred to was called "Emergency". I remember it in 1974 when I was 14 and crushing on the dark haired parametic.
@beccakate8592
@beccakate8592 2 жыл бұрын
My wonderful Nan survived this, after also surviving the war but losing her whole family. She used to tell me about it when I was much younger, how she could hear the wood splintering overhead and how the lady next to her passed away on her lap. Makes me miss her
@jessicad83
@jessicad83 2 жыл бұрын
What a perfect example of what can be achieved when a community comes together to help one another 🙌
@FinnishLapphund
@FinnishLapphund 2 жыл бұрын
I like the way you clearly showed how it happened, and not just the more dramatic photos of the aftermath. I also really like that you've included small details which to me made it feel more personal. Like the genious resourcefulness of that American "angel", and that you didn't just mention the scout that helped, without also that it made him late for school.
@cooperised
@cooperised 2 жыл бұрын
I discovered only a few weeks ago that my grandfather was a passenger on the local train that day. He died in the late 1990s without ever (to my knowledge) having talked about the crash.
@Puckoon2002
@Puckoon2002 2 жыл бұрын
A woman, how was to be the mother of a friend of mine, missed the accident by 15 minutes, as she traveled to work on the Electric service which passed through Harrow and Wealdstone station. She worked for British Railways, her boss was in the Carriage and Wagon department, she ended up that day typing up the reports for the department.
@0010-n8q
@0010-n8q Жыл бұрын
I lived in Wealdstone from 1978-2018 & was walking over the bridge there -read the plaque there on the station’s side & told my colleague.. she said .. i remember that.. ( i had caught a train to Harlesden from that station in 1986 .. so unaware of the tragedy there so many yrs ago )
@ianbentley-rb7hs
@ianbentley-rb7hs 24 күн бұрын
I was 3 years old when this happened, we lived in Stanmore. My father was one of the first Police officers to get to the scene of the crash. He was just leaving Wealdstone Police Station when the crash happened. Also, my future mother-in-law was rushing up the stairs to get to the local train as the footbridge collapsed. Had she been there sooner she could well have been one of the casualties. In which case my wife (born in 1954) and I would never have met.
@gwenstephan67
@gwenstephan67 2 жыл бұрын
I have to hope, that if ever I were in a disaster I would be able to keep as cool ahead as these folks. Marking the patients with lipstick was absolutely genius
@crow-jane
@crow-jane 2 жыл бұрын
This was not quite eight years out from the end of WW2. I think much of the conditioning the British underwent as a mobilized population came in handy in situations like this.
@davidcox3076
@davidcox3076 2 жыл бұрын
@@crow-jane I wondered about that as well. The passengers staying calm, the emergency services being right on scene and the civilian volunteers point to a very organized response with surprising speed. The wartime experience of many of those Londoners no doubt saved lives that day.
@willmander5179
@willmander5179 Жыл бұрын
British people were different back then, if this happened now not only would there be sheer panic but you’d also find any passers by would rather film it and share on socials than try and help
@twistedpear18
@twistedpear18 2 жыл бұрын
Stories like these are I think my favourite of yours to listen to. The incident was horrific, but the quick and extremely canny response by those on the scene is inspiring.
@crow-jane
@crow-jane 2 жыл бұрын
I have a feeling that many of the skills the British learned as a mobilized population during the war probably helped enormously in this situation.
@scrappydoo7887
@scrappydoo7887 2 жыл бұрын
@@crow-jane is that anecdotal evidence?🤣
@crow-jane
@crow-jane 2 жыл бұрын
@@scrappydoo7887 I don’t follow. The British were trained en masse to respond quickly and calmly to major emergencies by merit of some six years of war. This being less than a decade later, we can assume that at least some of the population remembered that training. This was an observation of historical proximity. Try not to overthink it.
@scrappydoo7887
@scrappydoo7887 2 жыл бұрын
@@crow-jane lol forget it
@allisonkrueger8330
@allisonkrueger8330 Жыл бұрын
@@scrappydoo7887 it’s possible, I haven’t played a clarinet in 4 years and I still remember how to play
@RigletDad
@RigletDad 2 жыл бұрын
Imagine the orderly and calm reaction to an accident that comes from a war hardened public.
@opwave79
@opwave79 2 жыл бұрын
The photos look devastating. But I’m thankful for all the people who responded to render aid. That part of the story was wonderful.
@llouie4999
@llouie4999 2 жыл бұрын
Your inclusion of the concrete things like Lt Abby's ingenuity, the young scout's determination, and scores of people that come to help then and later on figuring out how to prevent future incidents brings much hope and a sense that we together can do much good - thank you
@pauljohnson8872
@pauljohnson8872 10 ай бұрын
People are generally good and want to help, it's when we become part of a larger group our individual humanity fails us and we become more mob like and less willing to help.
@martin-uz1py
@martin-uz1py 2 жыл бұрын
My Dad grew up in Wealdstone and was one of the bystanders out side the station when this happened it always effected him deeply when ever he spoke about it.
@briantaylor9285
@briantaylor9285 2 жыл бұрын
What a catastrophe. RIP to the victims. That nurse and Boy Scout were real ones, though. Bless them.
@susanbrown138
@susanbrown138 2 жыл бұрын
Followed a link on Wikipedia about this crash to a 2012 BBC article. It mentioned that Gilbert Powell, the boy scout, got into trouble with his parents after returning home all dirty. After getting cleaned up and changed, he went to school where he was given detention for not showing up in the morning. His parents didn't find out about his heroism at the crash site until later.
@r.j.penfold
@r.j.penfold 2 жыл бұрын
Damn. If Gilbert is still around I hope he's doing well
@Krzyszczynski
@Krzyszczynski Жыл бұрын
Best sort of hero - the one who doesn't brag about what s/he's done, and just quietly gets on with things afterwards.
@melodyszadkowski5256
@melodyszadkowski5256 3 күн бұрын
Looks like the adults couldn't be bothered to read the note, or the note story was a later embellishment.
@savegame3308
@savegame3308 2 жыл бұрын
Princess Anne was a very interesting locomotive. She used to be a turbomotive and used a turbine with moderate sucess before she was rebuilt just before the crash. But that's not all. After her untimely end the replacement locomotive for her was none other than Duke of Gloucester who's still around and runs often.
@sangheiliwarrior86
@sangheiliwarrior86 2 жыл бұрын
This accident certainly left its mark on British locomotive history.
@bryemycaz
@bryemycaz 2 жыл бұрын
The Duke was nearly lost as it was not selected for offical preservation. It was sent to Cashmores yard and they had started to break it up. When they saw it had been sent to the wrong scrapyard. It should have gone to Woodhams in Barry. So work was stopped and it was sent to Barry, where it was eventually saved.
@martinforester3471
@martinforester3471 4 ай бұрын
​@@bryemycazThe "Duke" has an amazing history, especially considering that she was never meant to be!
@davidfarrow875
@davidfarrow875 2 жыл бұрын
I drove on the route through Harrow from 2006 until I retired two years ago. To this day it is possible to see the gouges on the platform faces of the fast line platforms, and the section of the footbridge over the fast line has slightly different spacing of the windows and support ribs where it was rebuilt. Just one note - in the final minute of the video the panel of yellow and red buttons shown is not from the Automatic Warning System installed after the Harrow crash, but from the much later TPWS system installed after the Southall and Ladbroke Grove crash. I was actually involved in the testing of improvements to this later system around 2008, being one of the 'guinea pig' drivers who tried out new button configurations in a simulator in order to gain information on what was the safest and most intuitive method of working. As a result of the implementation of the full TPWS system, collisions due to SPADs are now extremely rare in the UK, and if they do happen they tend to be at very low speed now. The only notable one in recent years was the collision at Salisbury where leaf mulch on the rail heads was the primary cause of the accident, something even TPWS would struggle to protect trains from the effects of.
@WeaselKing1000
@WeaselKing1000 2 жыл бұрын
One of my father's earliest memories is the enormous 'BANG' of this collision. He was a toddler at the time and the family lived quite near the station. My grandmother was in fact supposed to be aboard the local train on her way to work, but was pregnant with my uncle at the time, and so didn't go. Every person she shared the office with was killed.
@susi-emily
@susi-emily 2 жыл бұрын
I'm going to be asking my dad if he heard the crash. He would've been six in 1952, and lived on Bouverie Road, near West Harrow station.
@elliottprice6084
@elliottprice6084 2 жыл бұрын
I have heard of this disaster, but there was a lot I didn't know about it in this short, but very detailed video. And special mention to the young boy who spent four hours helping emergency service workers. I never knew of his courageous acts until now. I really hope he was commended for his actions
@elliottprice6084
@elliottprice6084 2 жыл бұрын
@@a1c3c3u such a shame he was never recognised. Thank you for your reply 😉
@yuvgotubekidding
@yuvgotubekidding 2 жыл бұрын
The thoroughness and depth of research that goes into your channel is impeccable. 👍🇺🇸
@theresadimaggio7241
@theresadimaggio7241 2 жыл бұрын
God bless that young woman who insisted in helping the crash victims and also the boy scout. God bless them and all the victims.
@NickRPGreen
@NickRPGreen 2 жыл бұрын
I've been enjoying this channel for sometime and started a new job in Harrow six months ago, so commute via this station twice a week. I've seen the plaque and the memorial that stretches up the bridge, so it was great to learn the history behind it from a familiar source. Great job as always.
@meligoth
@meligoth 2 жыл бұрын
There could not have been a better bunch of strangers who heeded the call to help their fellow humans. From a boy scout to passing Americans, helped without hesitation.
@johnnymartinjohansen
@johnnymartinjohansen 2 жыл бұрын
Such a great channel. Tells the stories with all the facts, without unnecessary bs artificially prolonging it to an hour, like most channels do. Thank you very much :)
@ghostfacegirl180
@ghostfacegirl180 Жыл бұрын
I can not stress enough how much I appreciate the consistent volume and tone in all your videos. No cuts to new reports, no sound effects, no raised voices; just a calm tone talking about exactly the kind of stuff my morbid brain likes learning about. Perfect for relaxing.
@spacecowgurl57
@spacecowgurl57 2 жыл бұрын
I am blown away by not only the crash itself but the amazing human reaction. Abby Sweetwine sounds like a war nurse. There was one who similarly did markings at Pearl Harbor.
@shaunstrasser1
@shaunstrasser1 2 жыл бұрын
Some one posted she was a WWII, Korean War and Vietnam War nurse
@zulie9378
@zulie9378 2 жыл бұрын
Getting close to 1 million…thank you for your work
@Noah_Levy
@Noah_Levy 2 жыл бұрын
I saw the crash in a documentary when I was a kid. The story of the boy asking for an absence note after helping with the crash is a funny tidbit in an otherwise grim event. Imagine being the teacher when he walks in with that note!
@k9teen20
@k9teen20 2 жыл бұрын
Abbie Sweetwine was clearly an angel and hero taking quick action. Thank goodness she was there.
@neilvann2670
@neilvann2670 4 ай бұрын
Another gem - they'd restored one of the lines to allow through working within 24 hours after the disaster. It'd take them 24 years these days. Took them a week to remove a single carriage after Hitchin, even longer to shift a lightweight tram at Croyden.
@ulazygit
@ulazygit 2 жыл бұрын
My uncle had just crossed the overhead walkway on his way to school when the trains hit at Harrow and Wealdstone …
@borderlands6606
@borderlands6606 2 жыл бұрын
One of the victims was a person crossing the bridge.
@ferociousgumby
@ferociousgumby 2 жыл бұрын
The lady with the lipstick was brilliant! What a practical, simple yet effective way to save lives.
@seandelap8587
@seandelap8587 2 жыл бұрын
Always look forward to Tuesday mornings.
@roysimmons3549
@roysimmons3549 2 жыл бұрын
In 1952 and I remember this crash. He is wrong to state that there were few steam trains then. That didn't happen for 15 years. At this time the Euston Line then was wholly steam driven.
@rhimccrorie6578
@rhimccrorie6578 2 жыл бұрын
You've done that story great justice. Well done.
@mattscudder1975
@mattscudder1975 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I grew up in Harrow and I’ve known about this disaster most of my life and I’ve been waiting and hoping that you’d do a clip about this because you have an amazing way of putting things and I really wanted to see your take on this disaster.
@EMD-jc5by
@EMD-jc5by Жыл бұрын
I live in Wealdstone I use this station everyday. There’s a little memorial at the front of the station.
@Alyrulz421
@Alyrulz421 2 жыл бұрын
For some reason I love listening to these thru my headphones while I’m working
@MusicLeeSarah
@MusicLeeSarah 2 жыл бұрын
I feel the same way about listening to Jiles do this is monster's and somewhere sinister. I end up being more productive when I do LOL
@thomastaylor6699
@thomastaylor6699 7 ай бұрын
It's always good to hear about people who, in time of need, help others out.
@lambdatauri
@lambdatauri 2 жыл бұрын
I’m so glad this channel is finally getting the recognition it deserves. Been here since Dyatlov Pass video❤
@bilindalaw-morley161
@bilindalaw-morley161 2 жыл бұрын
Incidents like these, where commuters are living their ordinary lives, heading to a probably disliked daily job, are the real horrors to me. Rollercoaster accidents, ski lifts gone wrong, divers drowning, are all outside their common daily experiences. For want of a better word, there's a novelty to those. Most of them, I can think,"Well, no way I'd be..." It makes the imagining more personal. We have all caught commuter trains, all been on school and commuter busses, thoughtlessly expecting we will arrive safely with no dramas. Thank you, Fascinating. I would really like to see your take on the biggest Australian train disaster, at Granville Railway Station.
@cnra7x
@cnra7x 2 жыл бұрын
I lived in Harrow most of my life and used to travel from the station every day and I have never heard of this before!
@neilsturrock3310
@neilsturrock3310 Жыл бұрын
Very interesting because I can clearly remember this being reported. however, you are incorrect in suggesting that much of the railway network had been electrified by 1952. The first electrification of a national line did not occur until the late 1950s, this was the West Coast Main Line. Only the London Underground was electrified at this time along with the Liverpool Overhead Railway and the service under the River Mersey.
@jimthorne304
@jimthorne304 8 ай бұрын
Don't forget much of the Southern commuter lines were also electrified by then.
@stevenweasel2678
@stevenweasel2678 Ай бұрын
Good description of this event/ Just a comment though on B.R steam traction / haulage. This type of motive power absolutely predominated on British Railways routes of 1952 both on passenger and freight. Infact even a decade later there was still some 9,000 steam locomotives in use on B.R. However over the next six years or so their decline was rapid , with just some 200 left in service by the Summer of 1968. The last ever B.R network / service trains steam hauled were freights in the Preston and Burnley area on 3rd/ 4th August 1968.
@TrinityCourtStudios
@TrinityCourtStudios 2 жыл бұрын
As a railroader, and as a train dispatcher. This wreck is the type that gives me nightmares. Me sitting at my desk throwing switches and putting signals in for trains yet having a train disregard everything I’m doing to keep trains safely apart and people safe is an incredibly unnerving thought. Never leaves my mind fully when I’m working. Even though modern tech has really helped advance things more and more to seriously reduce the chances of this repeating itself in the UK, the US, or anywhere else in the world.
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 2 жыл бұрын
That zoom-out reveal at 0:32 is nicely executed.
@HippoPete
@HippoPete 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your content. Stories that should be remembered.
@1630revelloify
@1630revelloify Жыл бұрын
I live five minutes from Harrow and Wealdstone station and while there is acknowledgement of the crash, I'd like to see mention of Lt. Abbie Sweetwine there. She basically invented triage that day - who knows how many lives she saved. Gilbert Powell is also a forgotten hero and his name also deserved to be mentioned. One interesting fact missed here is that the sole police motorcycle with an experimental radio in the whole of London was just outside the station as the crash occurred, so ambulances arrived more quickly - however, they often ferried the less injured to hospital rather than wait for those in need of more urgent medical care. Thankfully, lessons were learned. RIP.
@MrDaiseymay
@MrDaiseymay Жыл бұрын
I was eleven when this horror was headline news in all the media. These immages, are so horrfic. I'm amazedd that the so-calle safety ''improvements'' took so long to impliment., And STILL, horror accidents happened.
@christyhubbard8074
@christyhubbard8074 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for educating us with another disaster we may not have heard of before. Always interesting to learn the whole story of these terrible tragedies.
@SpiderxPunk
@SpiderxPunk 2 жыл бұрын
*Perfect timing!* Just got blindsided by some late night sadness; this was a great distraction.
@MusicLeeSarah
@MusicLeeSarah 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know what you're going through but sending positive and healing vibes your way 💛
@melodyszadkowski5256
@melodyszadkowski5256 2 жыл бұрын
I learn something amazing with every one of your videos. Being from the other side of the Great Pond, I have learned more European history from this channel than I ever learned in school.
@ianchapman4274
@ianchapman4274 2 жыл бұрын
A well done history on this story, I first read about this in the book Red for Danger by LTC Rolt which is well worth a read and includes the Quintinshill disaster. Just one point, the picture you show of the warning system is actually TPWS which was fitted after the Paddington disaster. The in-cab warning for the AWS system is a 'sunflower' which is a circular yellow and black warning instrument along with an audible alarm that must be acknowledged and is still used today.
@iankingsleys2818
@iankingsleys2818 Жыл бұрын
despite a good number of subsequent train crashes, Tom Rolt's book still stands head and shoulders above the rest
@briankinder9292
@briankinder9292 Жыл бұрын
The sad thing I find with this accident was that the GWR introduced ATC back in 1910, mainly on main lines. The LMS ran trails on the LT&SR in 1932, introduction being held up WW2,then Nationalization of the railways. We even still had fogmen who would place explosive caps on the track to warn drivers of a signal at danger. So many safety systems that could have stopped the crash, nothing was in place to stop this crash.
@pvanpelt1
@pvanpelt1 2 жыл бұрын
I’m imagining the school secretary when Gilbert turned up late and probably grubby, and handed her that note. The crash was probably all over the radio that morning, and finding out he’d been helping with the rescue!? I know it was a different time and place to where I am, but I’d have been so proud of him. Send him to the school nurse to make sure his cuts and scratches were clean and so he could wash up, while I poke my head in the principal’s office with a, “You’re never going to guess why Gilbert was late.” And slip him money for a candy bar on the way home. I hope somebody gave him a hug and told him they were proud of him.
@neiloflongbeck5705
@neiloflongbeck5705 2 жыл бұрын
In 1952 very little of the national network had been electrified.
@jinnbuster4753
@jinnbuster4753 Жыл бұрын
I lived in Harrow Weald at the time of this crash. I was four years old. My dad took me to see it. It was probably the day after the crash. He stood on the road bridge which goes over the station and put me on his shoulder so I could see. I remember seeing the trains on their sides and all the wreckage with smoke or steam coming off it. There were loads of people milling about. I have to admit that I have never noticed the plaque, even though I have been through that station loads of times. There is a rather crude painted mural on the wall of the road bridge. I think it was done by some school kids.
@reachandler3655
@reachandler3655 2 жыл бұрын
Another excellent episode bringing the past to life, thankyou. Considering the wreckage and number of people involved, I'm truly amazed how many survived.
@robtrunley
@robtrunley Жыл бұрын
These pictures are a haunting !
@MusicLeeSarah
@MusicLeeSarah 2 жыл бұрын
I live in the US in Missouri and for years I lived just down the street from sulfur springs it was the site of the deadliest train crash in Missouri. It happened I want to say in the thirties I know that the surrounding communities didn't have electricity so I think that time frame is about right. One train had stopped at a bridge over the Mississippi to take on some water for the steam engine and the other train failed to acknowledge the signals that he was stopped on the bridge and they collided. the other train was going full speed. I've read newspaper articles from the local history museum about it and it sounds like it was heartbreak and Carnage and chaos and just horrible. But it did play a big part in them changing what signals and how they use them to alert other trains about stopped trains on the same tracks. If I may make a request, could you do a video about that incident?
@bobblebardsley
@bobblebardsley 2 жыл бұрын
I don't know anything about this incident but it sounds like it would make for a very interesting video, I'd like to watch that one.
@edwardharris6194
@edwardharris6194 2 жыл бұрын
seems like a very interesting topic. this video has made me wonder about how aware drivers are of the locations of signals which they should be paying attention to. i imagine on a day to day basis the vast majority of warning lights arent used for many things seperate from the routine. for me its incredibly easy to see how human error like the kind in this video happens, and i imagine a stopped steam locomotive makes a massive impact on the visibility nearby too.
@cooperised
@cooperised 2 жыл бұрын
@@edwardharris6194 Good route knowledge is essential for a train driver, at least here in the UK. Check out "obey my signals" channel, he has some really informative cab view videos that show this quite effectively.
@Olhado256
@Olhado256 2 жыл бұрын
The Sulphur Springs Train Wreck of 1922 (which would make an excellent indie rock band name, by the way)
@babecat2000
@babecat2000 2 жыл бұрын
Wow I live in Missouri also and never heard of this. Just curious did you work at walmart you sound familiar if so I am clara and hi.
@space.404
@space.404 2 жыл бұрын
Despite it being a tragedy, I'm glad it kinda ended in a good note, with people coming together to assist the injured, and creating new ways to prevent this from ever happening again, I wish more stories where like this, a community ready to help each other.
@cerneuffington2656
@cerneuffington2656 2 жыл бұрын
In the early 1990s, i was walking through Exmouth Market in Clerkenwell. One of the market traders was selling some junk and a couple of old newspapers on his stall. This disaster was the headline on both of those papers.
@bill392
@bill392 2 жыл бұрын
I never knew about this accident. Incredible photos, especially given their age. I think it's a small miracle that many more people were not killed and that there was no fire in the pileup. Very tragic accident but at least lessons were learned from it and safety systems were improved. I wonder if that brave little boy is still living today? He should get a medal.
@kellyc6380
@kellyc6380 2 жыл бұрын
I always feel guilty for enjoying “fascinating horror” 😂 well done once again
@saragrant9749
@saragrant9749 2 жыл бұрын
That young boy is a hero. Talk about bravery in the face of harrowing circumstances.
@madmattdigs9518
@madmattdigs9518 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never heard of this disaster. Another great video, thanks for sharing this.
@northerntoe
@northerntoe 2 жыл бұрын
What an absolutely terrible disaster but holy crap that was a really really well done drawing
@cerethpainting6606
@cerethpainting6606 2 жыл бұрын
Boy Scouts were first responders and instrumental in a recent Amtrak crash near Kansas City at 2022
@atheistpower5659
@atheistpower5659 2 жыл бұрын
I am hooked on this channel after watching just a few videos and it`s all because of the voice of the narrator good job and very creepy at times I Love it !
@kodymcmullen5691
@kodymcmullen5691 2 жыл бұрын
The stories on this channel are crazy. And so detailed. Very similar to how this is monsters does his serial killer episodes. Super detailed and very on point with how a story should be told truthfully.
@sdraper2011
@sdraper2011 2 жыл бұрын
You are a superb narrator. 👍I love the follow up you do about the changes enacted to make things safer after the disaster.
@casey3684
@casey3684 Жыл бұрын
Wild to find a story so devastating that happened only 8 miles away from me, at a station that I used to commute from occasionally. Next time I’m there I’ll take a moment to remember the people who lost their lives. Thankyou for sharing
@naturalroyalflush
@naturalroyalflush Жыл бұрын
The description given by a survivor was beautiful English. I doubt this type of description would be given nowadays. That level of fortitude is sorely missing in today’s near hysterical society. I can’t imagine doing what the Boy Scout did. I know what I was like at 14. RIP to all the victims. Thank you for this video .
@seandelap8587
@seandelap8587 2 жыл бұрын
Speaking of rail disasters could you speak about the Buttevant train crash which was the biggest railway disaster in the history of Ireland.
@gerardacronin334
@gerardacronin334 2 жыл бұрын
It’s ironic that one of the contributing factors to mortality at Buttevant was the continued use of old wooden carriages on CIE. In 1980. It seems they had not learnt from this accident 28 years before.
@Krzyszczynski
@Krzyszczynski 2 жыл бұрын
I take it you mean the Irish Republic? (in which case you're right to leave out that little affair near Armagh in 1889.)
@irenetorkel2186
@irenetorkel2186 2 жыл бұрын
Another great video. I can't imagine the horror everyone must have felt. That young man who helped before going to school was quite the little hero. Even now, not many kids would take the initiative. I hope his teachers appreciated his service and didn't give him a hard time.
@Arkylie
@Arkylie 2 жыл бұрын
It's hard to take initiative when you're not prepared ahead of time -- which is why stories like this should prompt more people to learn first aid, and to teach it to their children. Toddlers have called 911 to help their mothers or babysitters, and small bands of schoolkids have worked together to help during disasters or to survive a situation where the adults got taken out. If you have been trained, you stand a much higher chance of being helpful or even lifesaving, compared to being a hindrance or just a bystander. The resources are easily available online these days (even if some of the details might conflict a bit). CPR got easier (hands-only CPR saves lives, and is fine unless the cause of the collapse was lack of air), online courses exist, KZbin is replete with videos demonstrating the basics -- I'd even suggest looking up "Comedy CPR" by *Fire Department Chronicles* for an explanation that hits some of the weird questions and might better stick in your brain than any more dry-fact rundown. Never too late to prep yourself to step in when the unthinkable happens!
@worldcomicsreview354
@worldcomicsreview354 2 жыл бұрын
@@Arkylie "Be prepared" is the scouting motto!
@ShadowSorcerer
@ShadowSorcerer 2 жыл бұрын
Man that's one hell of a excuse note. "HI sorry I'm late I was saving people in a train crash."
@thelarryman482
@thelarryman482 Жыл бұрын
Add that to: sorry, I had to drag myself to hoepital following a deadly car crash
@Real_g.s.
@Real_g.s. 2 жыл бұрын
Love these stories. Love this channel! Thank you!
@stephenpegum9776
@stephenpegum9776 Жыл бұрын
My brother used to live in Harrow & every time I drove over to his flat I passed H&W station. I always said a quiet prayer for the victims of this horrendous accident.
@pippagrey9633
@pippagrey9633 2 жыл бұрын
A friend of mine was on a train in Ireland which derailed due to an unswitched switch. This was in the '80s and CIE *still* had some wood frame rolling stock. On this train, they were primarily the first class carriages. The wood frame carriages fared ... poorly. Thankfully for her, my friend (traveling with her baby) had arrived late and been unable to get on the first class carriage; she ended up with a slipped disc and her child was unharmed.
@franceskronenwett3539
@franceskronenwett3539 2 жыл бұрын
What a dreadful thing to happen. Many years ago whilst still living in England I worked for British Rail and commuted every day from Hemel Hempstead to Euston Station, passing through Harrow and Wealdstone Station. Apparently smog made the situation worse. This terrible accident occurred two months before the great London smog of December 1952 which led to the passing of the Clean Air Act.
@jaybee4118
@jaybee4118 2 жыл бұрын
I’m disappointed so many are taking the opportunity to talk down about kids today because of one child 70 years ago. That child was a hero, but not many kids get the chance to be a hero or have lived through the tail end of a war and the aftermath in a city that was one of the worst hit during the war. Kids being less likely to cope with a disaster (which is something we won’t know unless they’re in a disaster remember) is something to be glad about. It means they aren’t growing up in traumatic circumstances. I’m gen X and I hoped my generation would be better to the younger generation than boomers etc were to us. Nope, they and millennials are just as bad, repeating the stupidity of talking down to and assuming the worst of younger generations. I’m disappointed in anyone that does it. Be better.
@richardcummins5465
@richardcummins5465 9 ай бұрын
I read somewhere that, unbelievably, that local train services were resumed less than 20 hours after this devastating crash. On adjacent track, obviously. You can't imagine that happening now, can you?
@yakacm
@yakacm 2 жыл бұрын
imagine surviving all the way thru WW2, only to perish in a train crash on the way to work, just awful.
@luvondarox
@luvondarox 2 жыл бұрын
"So great was the noise of these two consecutive crashes that the station clerk picked up the phone to call emergency services without even looking to see what had happened." I can imagine.
@Backroad_Junkie
@Backroad_Junkie 2 жыл бұрын
From a completely impartial view, I wouldn't want to look either. You probably know what you're going to see...
@capnskiddies
@capnskiddies 2 жыл бұрын
You become accustomed to the noise of accidents. For a short time I worked at a station with a railway bridge beside it. The noise of a lorry crashing into the bridge would have you reaching for the phone to close the line, without even checking.
@SpearFisher85
@SpearFisher85 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent as always! Railway disasters are a favorite of mine.
@dawnstorm9768
@dawnstorm9768 2 жыл бұрын
That could have been a lot worse! 112 is 112 too many, but for a disaster of that size, it's incredibly low. Looks like the 70th anniversary of the tragedy is coming up. Wonder if that boy scout is still living?
@ejthedhampir507
@ejthedhampir507 2 жыл бұрын
What a scene to behold. You're on your way to work one minute and fighting past twisted metal the next. Horrifying.
@isabelwood1671
@isabelwood1671 2 жыл бұрын
My uncle missed this crash by a hairsbreadth. He ran for his usual train but just missed it. This was the train standing on the platform at Harrow. Meanwhile my poor aunt heard the news on the radio and for several hours thought the worst. Of course, he was sitting on the following train which had stopped. When he walked through the door at home hours later you can only imagine how they felt.
@skunkrat01
@skunkrat01 2 жыл бұрын
Gosh you think the first crash with two trains is bad enough, then the third one comes along. Yet another great short documentary about a terrible tragedy, but which shows the human spirit in the end.
@MalcolmCooks
@MalcolmCooks 2 жыл бұрын
I nearly cried hearing about the disaster response and how passers-by were so willing to volunteer assistance. there must have been an amazing spirit of togetherness after the war
@thefez-cat
@thefez-cat 2 жыл бұрын
Abigail "Abbie" Sweetwine, the Angel of Platform Six, graduated in nursing from the first Black hospital in Jacksonville, Alabama, the George A. Brewster Hospital and School of Nurse Training. She was the sole nurse of a USAF emergency response team sent from the new Air Force Hospital at Rislip; the remainder of the team included seven doctors and was commanded by a Lieutenant Colonel. The team was dispatched after members of the 49th Medical Group who were on the train called the hospital to send help. Abbie would later be invited to a celebratory luncheon hosted at the Savoy by the Variety Artistes' Benevolent Fund (now the Royal Variety Charity) and given an engraved cigarette case. The work of the emergency team, including Abbie's skilled improvised triage techniques, are credited with inspiring the formation of paramedic services in the UK. Related: Brewster Hospital was founded because Black victims of the Great Fire of 1901 had nowhere to seek treatment -- all the hospitals in Jacksonville were white-only. They'd rather the wounded African-Americans *die* than deign to treat them until the Civil Rights Act was passed.
@stream3333
@stream3333 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Sharing this! ✨
@jesusbeloved3953
@jesusbeloved3953 2 жыл бұрын
Well done as always! What a tragedy! How helpful it would have been had the first driver lived to explain what happened.
@ChangesOneTim
@ChangesOneTim 2 жыл бұрын
Firemen also had a duty to assist drivers in keeping a good look-out for signals, as and when able to do so, but sadly Jones' fireman also did not live to tell the tale.
@gregkiteos1936
@gregkiteos1936 2 жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to hear different perspectives of this particular accident and I've learnt things about it that I previously didn't know before. But I am curious to know why you used a picture of Kings Cross station at 3:01
@markstott6689
@markstott6689 2 жыл бұрын
The station at 03.01 is actually Kings Cross and not Euston. It's still a London station though.
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