THE HARSH TRUTH ABOUT IGOR SHESTERKIN AND THE NEW YORK RANGERS

[@jimmyhockey]

How much money will Igor Shesterkin make on his next Hockey contract?

[@thatJAWNraps]

12 cuz of inflation over 8yrs tops - cuz he gets a cushion like Quick or a decent backup every yr taking hella reg seeason games off his plate so he can go beast mode in the playoffs...u dont leave NYC w young and talent w atleast 5good yrs afer all the deep runs/exp this group has

[@thatJAWNraps]

unless its for a payday thats sooo much mlre but i cant see it and hed be branded a sell out if he left over a petty amount when we built a team like that around him

[@chrisgorgone5855]

Shouldn’t be paying top goalies more than 9 mil

[@StarHockey93]

@@jimmyhockey He's gonna get 12.5

[@schustererik83]

hes gonna get 13, cap is going up hard, the rangers should eat it

[@19trebor53]

I could make ends meet at $11 million a year. Get my goalie pads, ma.

[@jerseycity660ramp]

Devils fan here… I think it’s a good possibility that it’s not necessarily more money he is looking for. It says he wants a 2 year deal. He may just see the writing on the wall with the rangers for the next few years and doesn’t want to get locked into a team that might not be nearly as good on a few years with cap issues and or key Ayer’s aging out.

[@MrHyde11976]

remain jersey trash mind your business & gtfo msg network. lets then see how long you remain an organization

[@reallychillgoose]

Igor doesnt have any plan of leaving New York. Im a rags fan and to be fair i only want him for 4 years anyway. If we blow is this year we dismantle the core & i dont think Shesterkin should have to sit through that again.

[@FederalEmployee]

​@reallychillgoose We don't call ourselves Rags you dingus

[@FederalEmployee]

​@@reallychillgoose IDK WHY MY FUCKIN COMMENTS KEEP GETTIN DELETED BUT IM MAKIN SURE YOU KNOW THAT WE DONT CALL OURSELVES FUCKIN RAGS

[@easymac24]

I would agree

[@thatJAWNraps]

imagine him on a contract year tho, if the rangers dont pay say, 12, people may think we see someting they done behind closed doors cuz remember, he only plays like 2/3 reg season games with Quick playing A LOT for a backup (and better for long stretches) - but with other goalies/inflaction over the next 8 years i think 12 is the line that makes sense, and i LOVE igor and he honestly makes the playoffs half as stressful

[@MatzeMB85]

Rangers are in a bad spot with this one. Sign what Igor wants or become irrelevant. Same situation as with Swayman. I don't blame Igor either, he's a future hall of famer and should earn that kind of money. But paying that kind of money to one guy will not win you any cups (hopefully Oilers can prove me wrong this year). Honestly the low salary cap is to blame if you ask me.

[@jimmyhockey]

Irrelevant is a stretch, the team will either sign him or trade him for a massive return. I expect him to resign at 12-12.5M and continue being a top team

[@alexrompen805]

They need to pay Shest... the Rangers are toast without him

[@warrenthoms8423]

More than 11 million a year?

[@sa2lite272]

If they pay him too much, they are toast too

[@liammitchell2540]

I think Igor is keenly aware of New York never managing to put a cup winning team around Lundqvist during his tenure and it seems like he doesn’t wanna get locked down on a bulky contract that would be difficult to move if he wanted out. Dudes only 28 and an 11x8 would pretty much guarantee he’s not leaving New York for the entirety of his prime playing years.

[@ColonizerChan]

I can see 12 or 13, a solid goalie is hard to lock up for a decent run. If the oilers had Igor instead, then I wouldn’t be surprised if they had a couple of cups by now

[@jimmyhockey]

Yeah it’s tough to have the best goalie in the world and two of the best players. Easily would’ve won last year if he was their goalie though

[@f9w99]

We love Carey price but it handicaps you if Igor’s body breaks down over time. All it takes is one bad run at the goalie…

[@Aussie_Commando4]

Igor pls stay at New York🙏

[@jimmyhockey]

I believe they will agree on something, I have a hard time believing he will leave the Rangers

[@brianlb78]

Sometimes I wonder if GMs ever ask the question of what else can we do with 11-12m we are about to spend on this player and how much better is he than the next guy in line or a guy we can get in FA for half the price. Especially at goalie which has been proven on many occasions that you don't need a lights out goalie to win it all.

[@michaelbecker2435]

@@brianlb78 well for my money I'd rather pay Igor his 12 and never pay guys like mccry and Matthews 14-16 million. Igor literally carries the rags through the playoffs mccry and Matthews just drag the team down

[@brianlb78]

@@michaelbecker2435 But that wasn't my comment. Would you rather have Igor or two other high quality players for a similar price. So for example say Robert Thomas or Nick Suzuki and Jordan Binnington, Thatcher Demko, or Adin Hill. The first two are nearly point per game centers who are also very good defensively, the goalies while not as good as Igor are definitely good enough to go deep into the playoffs. Igor might be better than them but is he twice as good which is what he is suggesting by his contract. I'd take the center and one of the goalies over Igor. I'm not a GM obviously but that's how I'd look at these types of big deals for any player. I'd say to myself why spend 12-14m on one guy when I can get two or maybe 3 very good players who combined will put up better stats than that one player.

[@michaelbecker2435]

@@brianlb78 depends on the team around me and how far I want the team to go. at this point regular season means little so I'm going playoffs/cup. statically speaking the rags (as a team) tend to slack off in the playoffs, energy slows, defense dies and Igor keeps them in. so if I'm looking for a goalie who can go and carry a lagging team than yeah I'm gonna pay Igor. if I have a team who is accurate in shooting and can play shut down hockey ie Vegas didn't bite on Florida's antagonizing style than sure two for one.

[@liammitchell2540]

⁠@@michaelbecker2435I’m assuming you’re referring to McDavid as McCry and I’m genuinely confused how he “drags his team down”. He had 42 points last playoffs, the only dragging he did was dragging a team with an underdeveloped fringe starter and no bottom 4 D to game 7 of the cup finals. Which is further than Shesterkin has ever made it.

[@thatJAWNraps]

youth talent could be huge, if Laff takes ANOTHER leap from great to ELITE its poss

[@acerock013]

I have read that Igor is not looking to commit that much term to NY, he was actually talking about a 2 year deal which gives him an out if he loses confidence in the NYR project. if he commits to an 8 year max term contract, he could find himself stuck in another NYR rebuild and be too expensive to trade and if NYR wins a Cup during that time or is still able to make another run, he can look for another contract at even better value. It's not just about the AAv for Igor, he wants to be able to control his destiny.

[@jimmyhockey]

Maybe, I can’t imagine that’s the reason though. Players usually want the security on their deals, especially when you have kids and want to keep them in one place

[@alexisvezina2792]

I feel like he is going for at least a 100mil contract over 8 years which to me seems perfectly reasonable for his value and what he brings to the team, but also what he would bring overall to any other team that could sign him

[@severed111]

Not good to be over-greedy. You'll have to see Price stop getting paid (2 more years) at 10.5mil for teams to consider anything higher than Bobrovsky's salary, not to mention....Bobrovdky looked like he didn't deserve that crazy contract and was pulling a Bryzgalov for a while at the end of his tenure with Philly then in Columbus, who at the time had the best lineups they ever had and made the playoffs twice in a row (at least), he vindicated himself from his detractors in 22-23 when getting to the SC final when they weren't even really supposed to make the playoffs, but had an insane March/April with just a couple losses/OT losses, winning 15/16 out of their 19 last games or so (numbers not precise right now, will correct later, but it's as close that it got that I can recall) and then made it to the SC final, didn't win, and Lyon had a few games in there, but if goalies want to get paid more and consider themselves equal to say baseball pitchers in importance, they'll have to wait for Bobrovsky's and Price's contract to end, maybe Bob will still play a few years when that contract is over, but I think he will become one of those great aging but good enough to be paid 2-3 million backups. As the salary cap will get close to 100 milion per team soon, it could become accepted that in about half the league the most paid player is the goalie, but I think that would have been more fitting during the dead puck era, where 1A goalies were being paid the salary of a 1st/2nd liner very often, now it's not rare for some choice goalies to be paid third or fourth line salaries, but it's often those who have yet to have won a cup. When a goalie wins a cup, they usually get a huge contract in return, ask Vasilevsky.

[@richardtompkins7168]

He either wants more money or a shorter contract imo

[@jimmyhockey]

Either way the Rangers lose on that

[@DirtyDan77]

If I was a Rangers fan, I would prefer Igor walk, or better yet, trade him now. I prefer guys on my team who are interested in winning championships, not just making as much money as possible.

[@jimmyhockey]

Why not both. I hear what your saying but as fans we should support players making their money, you can pay guys and still win, and players can want a fair living and still want to win

[@DirtyDan77]

@@jimmyhockey Yes of course, if owners are going to price gouge their fans, then a lot of that money should be going to the players, that's why the salary cap is such a hinderance to the game because players can't be compensated properly, and get a decent shot at winning championships. that's why I usually just checkout of contract disputes because I can't stomach watching people fight over a couple extra million dollars when the average hockey fan can't afford tickets anymore.

[@mcdob69]

Rangers and winning championships is an oxymoron in itself, lol.

[@RDMC19]

Your next video should be who you think will be the top 10 players that will get traded this year (edit) I just realized I wasn’t subbed so I subbed

[@jimmyhockey]

Thanks for subbing glad you’re enjoying the videos🙏🏻

[@LaneBatman-c2v]

4-5 yrs tops… too much risk for more. Should get a 12-13x4

[@goldenspatian517]

He needs to be a Ranger for life

[@jimmyhockey]

He will resign

[@doggiestyleize]

I think the Rangers should trade Igor during the season. Look what Boston did with Ullmark. They traded Ullmark and got a very good goaltender in return in Korpisalo from Ottawa. The Rangers have a good goaltender in Garand at Hartford. They better start grooming him as the eventual No.1 goaltender. That way they can start replacing some of their aging players with their future stars like Othmann, Bernard and Perreault.

[@michaelbecker2435]

@@doggiestyleize yes please trade Igor so the rags can be irrelevant for another 30 plus years

[@thatJAWNraps]

turning it down/thinking he can get more on the FA Market are not mutually exclusive, his agent could just be agenting, not many goalies wanna leave a major market ESP on original 6 like NYC of all places where he'd be the highest paid AND Have Quick playing like 20-30% of the reg season games anyway, got enough young talent thats got deep playoff exp to actually win within the next couply yrs its makes sense then again if he wants to play chicken imagine him playing on a contract yr, id give him up as a FA for a cup this year...

[@mikepanick9362]

T pop y do realize the NYR are the youngest team in the league? Fourth youngest last year. There young players are developing just fine.

[@TheLIStorm43]

If the Rangers pay him 12m, it’s cap suicide

[@jimmyhockey]

No because the cap is set to go up a lot with the new agreement

[@ShibaInu154]

Shesterkin is being a jerk. None of the Stanley cup contenders can afford to sign Shesterkin for what he is asking and expect to keep their core. Goalies are replaceable. Let him walk. Utah probably has some cap space.

[@michaelbecker2435]

@@ShibaInu154 wow so mccry and Matthews two epic choke artists in the playoffs make 14 to 16 but Igor the guy who literally carries the team in the playoffs gets traded. man you should be a GM maybe Toronto is look for another loser.

[@ShibaInu154]

@@michaelbecker2435 If Igor "literally" carried the team, they would have won. He did not carry the team. Neither literally or figuratively.

[@michaelbecker2435]

@@ShibaInu154 what ever you say bud. hopefully Igor walks and the rangers fall back to irrelevant

[@thatJAWNraps]

is there anyone who WOULDNT give him up for a cup aka put him on a contract yr so he plays out of his skin one last time before being a UFA?" guess it depends how long uve been waiting, like im 36 (so 7yrs old in 94) watching w just my Dad hella late at in a bar in mexico on a fam vacation with chicken pox - my mom was piiiiiiissed back at th ehotel wi my other bro but he wanted me to see it, glad i did haha its been OVER THIRRTHY YEARS OF WAITING NOW!

[@JoseSanders-b8y]

Gutmann Park

[@vonbeaver99]

Russian players shouldn’t be getting that kind of money right now. There’s a war going on over there and a contract like that is pretty much funding violence against civilians

[@Spark-di9ce]

You're clearly a zombie clown, keep watching TV...

[@GallacherStuart-f5d]

Kertzmann Brook

[@luism8130]

Bobrovoski signed for 7 years $70 million in 2019. I think this was a smart move by Shesterkin’s agents. He should be paid more.

[@andrewgreen815]

Jets fan - Ha-Ha!

[@tsifty1]

What it means is , you either make it this year or it’s over the run for you NY

[@jimmyhockey]

Not over, it just becomes a bit harder

[@timothyplace90]

I think he'll resign at the trade deadline for $12.75 for 8 years.

[@MitchyM115]

Why TF would the rangers sign that…

[@MatzeMB85]

​@@MitchyM115Because some other team will and if Rangers don't they won't get the same value back in a trade. They sign that deal or start a rebuild within 2 seasons.

[@jimmyhockey]

I’m thinking about the same thing, anywhere between 12-12.5M over 8 years

[@orbakun]

As an isles fan, I pray he leaves

[@sabref4i290]

It's absolutely disgusting how much money these prima donnas are demanding with all the stuff that's going on in the world making millions of dollars to play a game is pathetic

[@michaelbecker2435]

@@sabref4i290 than don't watch you sad troll. you look at hockey and they make less than the other big 4 sports so get over it. 🤷

[@lordgoogoo69]

Signing a goalie to 8 years has never worked out. We have literally all of history to back that claim up. I’d trade him immediately

[@jimmyhockey]

Bobrovsky signed 7x70M and won a cup, Andrei vasilevskiy 8X76M won 2 cups. Jonathan Quick 10x58M won two cups. You can win and pay your goalie, it just depends how you build your team around them

[@StarHockey93]

​@jimmyhockey wow this convinced me

[@lordgoogoo69]

@@jimmyhockey there’s always outliers. I could say the same thing with Hill, Matt Murray, Crawford. They all won cups making minimum before getting paid. And how many times have you seen a backup take the job within a few years. You can defintely sign a goalie for big money and term and leave yourself in a position where you have to be smart everywhere else but I wouldn’t pay my goalie more then 4x8 and always have a couple of high prospects. Top Goalies in their class always fall in drafts because they take too long to develop

[@michaelbecker2435]

@@lordgoogoo69 and you won't win a cup ,✌️

[@Stubentiger0.0]

Trade him. You don’t win cups by giving legacy contracts to goalies.

[@liammitchell2540]

Except when Tampa signed Vasy to an 8 year deal in 2019 and immediately won back to back cups.

[@pbmc_]

"greed -gor greed- gor."

[@GOCAPSDMV]

Igor pls leave. Pls I’m begging you. I know you’re good and all (really good) but you play for the Rangers so I hate you. I don’t want to hate you, but you’re giving me no choice.

[@iayeewat96]

All caps fans hate the rangers, doesn’t mean he has to leave just because one fan hates the rangers.

[@jimmyhockey]

Rangers vs caps rematch this year? Could happen

[@GOCAPSDMV]

@@iayeewat96 well yeah. My opinion doesn’t matter at all, neither does any other of this team; or any other team. I was just saying, my personal opinion like yeah no kidding it doesn’t mean he has to leave..

[@GOCAPSDMV]

@@jimmyhockey even if we don’t win the series, I would love to have the chance of that. Especially if we show some fighting some energy, unlike last year. Thanks for replying, not often the creator replies on a random comment lol; appreciate it.

[@iayeewat96]

@@GOCAPSDMV Ik it’s your opinion but, just saying he doesn’t have to leave because of your opinion.

[@brandonmclean58]

Seems like a big gamble on Shesterkins part turning down $88 million, what if he gets injured or doesn't live up to the hype this year? We all know most goalies dont stay elite for that long. How much more does he think he will get on the open market compared to a guaranteed $88 million? I guess thats why goalies being crazy is the stereotype.

[@jimmyhockey]

I think some guys like Shesterkin are special and because other teams would be willing to pay that number he will be able to at least ask for it from New York

[@liammitchell2540]

Igor’s only 28 and has never had any major issues with injuries, so I doubt his performance through the next few seasons is in doubt. He probably just wants a shorter term so he’s not locked down to New York through his whole prime

[@pilotamurorei]

turn off your caps lock, child

[@etahhcumosevahi]

Rangers don’t have the team built to win the cup.

[@jimmyhockey]

Why do you say that? Good veterans, Solid young talent, Top 5 winger, top 15 center, top 3 defenseman, good depth, and the best goalie in the world. If this team figures out how to bring their 5vs5 game to the playoffs than they can win the cup

[@ColonizerChan]

They made it to game 6 of the conference finals and have the grit. They legit have all the tools they need, they just need the right matchups.

[@Regurgitator85]

Who cares . Lets go devils!!!

[@jimmyhockey]

Jack Hughes for Hart lock it in