The Haven on Norwegian Cruise Line - Is it Worth it? 2021 Review on the Encore

I sailed aboard the Norwegian Encore in September 2021 to Alaska. Through Norwegian's Upgrade Advantage program, I was able to win an upgrade bid and stayed in The Haven for the first time. In this video, I explore all the perks that come with Haven bookings, including private spaces, priority embarkation and disembarkation, upgraded staterooms, butler, concierge, and more. From there, I discuss whether I think the Haven is worth the extra cost. I hope you enjoy the video! Please leave any comments or questions below and I'll do my best to respond!
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[@draggonsgate]

I'm treating my sister to The Haven next October on the Breakaway. I wanted to do something for her where she is pampered and doesn't need to lift a finger for 7 days. I booked a two bedroom family villa so she can have the master to herself with the big soaker tub. I told her the only condition to this trip was she had to chillax in that tub at least once on our trip. Wasn't much of an argument... LOL

[@timatsea]

Very nice of you, Eric. I hope she has a great time!

[@lisagardner903]

Can I be your sister? How did the trip go?

[@draggonsgate]

@@lisagardner903 AMAZING! Other than the QM2, most amazing sailing so far...

[@rayjoyner3833]

THE BREAKAWAY IS AN AWESOME SHIP & THE HAVEN IS A 5 STAR TREATMENT. MY WIFE & I DID OUR 1ST CRUISE 2 YRS AGO & WE DID THE DELUXE OWNERS SUITE & WE WILL NEVER SAIL ANYWHERE IF WE CAN'T GET IN THE HAVEN. SO WE JUST BOOKED A 2 B-ROOM DELUXE OWNERS SUITE WITH A LARGE BALCONY FOR 7 NIGHTS- 8 DAY ON THE ESCAPE. WE CAN'T WAIT!!!

[@johnl56]

I like how Tim gives informative responses to questions. Clearly puts in effort for his viewers. Thanks, Tim!

[@timatsea]

Thanks John! I do my best...

[@BenFyvie]

Great to see that you've started another content for cruisers channel! You've got a great format and good content in your videos, especially for being a new channel. I look forward to watching your channel grow as you bring us more cruise content. Cheers!

[@timatsea]

Thanks Ben! I definitely have a lot to learn about being a content creator, and after trying my hand recording/editing a few videos, I have a newfound respect for other content creators for sure. I'm glad you found the video helpful and I'm looking forward to releasing more in the future.

[@jimhansen5395]

Hey Tim. Thanks for taking the time to upload these videos. My girlfriend and I just got off of the same ship a week later than you. NCL Encore Seattle/Alaska. Our situation was almost identical to yours, but I came away with a very different opinion. My feeling is that The Haven is worth every single penny (don't tell NCL, but I'd probably pay more). One thing you and your viewers need to consider is that you are a solo cruiser. This is a very different situation from most people. THe more people in your travel group, the greater the benefits of the concierge and butler services. Also, even just being a couple, we find that the extra space, extra storage, 2nd bathroom (in the larger suites), and the larger balconies make ALL of the difference between a standard stateroom and the calm peaceful spaces in The Haven. The food in the Haven Restaurant is as good as anything you'll eat anywhere, let alone on a large ship at sea. The only bummer about it is that the menu is somewhat limited and does not change often. We were fortunate enough to have two cruises in The Haven withing a four week period and found that after 14 days the menu was a little stale. The plus side is, the staff at the Haven restauarant are amazing and will go above and beyond to shake things up a bit, including going off the menu (if given some notice ahead of time). NO chance I will ever NOT sail in The Haven. Especially once ships are back to full capacity (probably this summer). The priority embark/disembark alone is probably worth the price (assuming a full ship), especially if Covid testing protocols are still in place (very likely)

[@timatsea]

I'm glad you had a great time on your trip, Jim. You make some good points. Being a solo cruiser definitely does make a big difference (both financially and otherwise), so I'll be sure to take that into more consideration in future videos. I bet I could've made more use of the butler service and concierge, but I just didn't feel the need to I guess. All depends on what you like and your preferences.

[@chrissygerwitz520]

I suppose we should thank you then, Jim. By colossally wasting your money, you are helping to keep the prices lower for all of the other cruisers who don't feel the need to separate themselves from everyone else needlessly.

[@jimhansen5395]

@@chrissygerwitz520 Thank you for taking the time to make such a helpful and hateful comment. This is just what the world needs more of these days.

[@chrissygerwitz520]

@@jimhansen5395 Glad it helped, Jim! I hope that you enjoy your food that is as good as anything you'll eat anywhere!

[@rgruenhaus]

Don't worry NCL never reads these comments or maybe they might make a change or two!

[@athenatheos3678]

I really found this extremely helpful and now believe the Haven is worth the cost for me when cruising is back to full bookings. I get anxious in crowds and need the quiet, less crowded area. Your video was super helpful and I don’t need high production value, just helpful info! Thanks!

[@timatsea]

I'm glad it was helpful, and thank you for your comment. I'm working to make videos in the future that are a little more entertaining as well as educational.

[@a2mark57]

Thank you for making and posting this vid, Tim. It was JUST what I needed! I've put in a couple of bids for upgrades to the Haven for a cruise next month (Bliss, Mexican Riviera). This vid pretty much confirmed a couple of things for me. First, the Courtyard Penthouse cabin isn't all THAT, compared to a nice non-Haven balcony cabin. Second, some of the perks really won't be of much value to me. My excursions, too, will be leaving later in the morning; I really don't need a bunch of snacks delivered to the cabin when I'm on a ship that's chock-full of free food; I really can't think of what I'd ask a butler to do (except maybe some clothes pressing?). But I learned of some things I'd appreciate: quick embarkation; great vantage point for sailaway; nice bathroom; good access to hot tub; table and chairs in cabin. I dunno. I'm ambivalent about hoping that either of my upgrade offers will be accepted. If not, I'll be fine in our currently-booked cabin. If yes, I'm sure I'll enjoy the Haven (especially the restaurant and the observation area) -- all the while thinking, "Damn, you probably could have gotten this with a lower bid!" I'ma think about reducing or cancelling at least one of my offers. Thanks again!

[@jordannola3743]

Thanks for this video, Tim!! I am going on my first cruise in December and have been trying to decide if I want to spring for the Haven! Just got the email about upgrading and might give it a try. Happy sailings to you! :)

[@leandroborton2090]

Hi Tim! Here Leo from Buenos Aires, Argentina. My wife and I are going to try for the first time the Encore in 2 weeks in the Caribbean, departing from Miami. We booked a really well located balcony room (first one looking the ship from bow to pope), but we might make a bid for a Heaven one after watching your video. Thanks for the honesty and clear answers to common questions. Already subscribed : ) Big hug from the far south of the continent!

[@timatsea]

Hey, thanks Leandro! I hope you have a great time on the Encore. I think it's a great time to try these bid upgrades. I'd bid low if it would just be one of those "nice to have" situations, but if you really want it, try a little higher. Nothing to lose. Good luck!

[@lewshuman3329]

My wife and I are confirmed Haven'nistas. Will be on The Getaway in October. The extras, service and hospitality are what convinced us. We also do the Retreat on the Big X. No more having to stake out pool lounges at 8 in the morning. No standing in line for the Buffett and Bars. Are we spoiled; yes we are. See you in October.

[@timatsea]

Hope you have a great time!

[@annemarieclarke189]

I’m sailing Norwegian Breakaway next month and staying in The Haven. Looking forward to it. Thanks for the information.

[@timatsea]

Sure thing, Annemarie. I hope you have a great time!

[@genes3088]

Just saw your video for the first time. I enjoyed your comments on the Haven suites. We've been on NCL for 8 cruises and always put a bid in for the Front Facing Haven suites. They are not in the Haven section and are slightly cheaper than the Haven section. We could never afford the normal pricing for Haven Last year we cruised and it was the first time we won the bid. It's actually a 2 room suite.... a standard living room area with a balcony and separate bedroom. The balcony is small but not a problem. As you said, once you go Haven, you don't want to go back....lol. This month, we are cruising again. With recent NCL specials, the price kept dropping for the Haven suite I would have bidded for. Turns out the final price, our original room plus upgrade, was lower than our original room, and the bid would have been. Good luck with your postings, Gene.

[@investinginsacramento]

I stayed in the haven aft penthouse suite in January on the breakaway. The huge balcony, second bathroom, separate living room and king size bed were night and day compared to any other cruise I have been on. We had our butler serve us a Champagne breakfast on our large 4 seat table on the balcony. Expensive, but unforgettable.

[@billrichardson2134]

Thank you. Very informative.

[@laurie1stringer]

Definitely YES!!! We LOVE the Haven!!!

[@mymentorjane6705]

What do you tip your butler?

[@casandrawr]

Thank you for your detailed and intelligent review. I too enjoy the sea but also the solitude of my own space besides the cabin on a cruise. My husband and I are like you - low maintenance and hardly ever ask for assistance from crew. We were debating Haven and the only real reason I probably won’t is because we are cruising with other non-Haven and would feel somewhat isolated from them. I have a multi stress job and desire a safe and quiet space while on vacation. Id rather turn up and be sociable partying with family and friends at home than strangers on vacation. While sometimes fun, these days we must be guarded. I cannot afford a chartered yacht experience yet, this seems to be as close as we can get!

[@suwinky]

The Haven was worth it for us in January 2019. We did a 10 day out of NOLA to the southern Caribbean. There were 5 of us staying in a two bedroom family villa on the Breakaway. At $8500, it came to about $1700 per person, which was totally worth it! The ship was at capacity and the Haven wasn’t, which was nice. Margaritaville was still on the Breakaway at the time so we were able to eat there for a complementary lunch.

[@timatsea]

Yes, it definitely becomes a better value proposition the more people you have in the room. Obviously solo sailing in the Haven is probably not the best use of funds, but it was definitely nice giving it a try.

[@luvmywetpets]

I loved Haven I put in a bid for my next cuise in December on Joy! Great info!

[@timatsea]

Thanks! Best of luck!

[@Jacklewis1026]

Hi Tim, great video..My wife and I stayed in the Haven on the Encore as well for the last Alaska trip 10/16/21. We love it. Yes it’s a big chunk of extra cash. We participated in the bidding for upgrade, a week or so before leaving they had a price reduction bring the price down to almost our bid,,so I called and just booked it. Is it worth it..? If your rich..The Haven is just everyday what you expect. If your not..It’s an awesome experience and for the time onboard you are rich. I certainly would not neglect my bills or drop my savings on it. But after getting the Haven bug..I try to budget it into our vacation. We are not gamblers or show folks..don’t even go to more uncharged restaurants..for us we just like to chill and relax onboard and the haven is that perfect place.

[@timatsea]

Great points, Jack. Certainly if money is no object, it's a no brainer, but most can't say that I guess. Like I said towards the end of the video, I feel like I "missed out" on a lot of the perks of the Haven on this sailing. Not that it was anyone's fault, it just happened that way due to all the circumstances. I'll be trying again on the Prima in September which I'm sure will be pretty full, so we'll see how it goes!

[@mymentorjane6705]

What did you tip? We’re heading out in a few week and hope to get an upgrade. Thx for tip to call ahead of price drops.

[@dianaclemons4316]

Tim, thank you for sharing and being transparent. You answered a lot of my questions. I would love to experience the Haven. However, I asked myself the same questions...Is it worth it and would I take advantage of all the extra perks. Leaving tomorrow on the Encore. I hope to visit my friends room in the Haven to see first-hand the beautiful Haven Suite

[@timatsea]

I'm glad you found it helpful! It's definitely worth trying if you can afford it, but I would agree that I'm not sure if it's worth it during the pandemic when the ships are not super full.

[@tonykirk6935]

We are sailing on The Encore on Jan 16th 2022 in a Haven Spa Suite, it's the first time in the Haven. We did have the Haven booked last year but as we all know Sailing was suspended so our dream was busted! so we are looking so forward to this trip (Miami) and using the new terminal. Thank you for the review and wish you many more safe sailings!

[@timatsea]

Thanks Tony! I think you'll love the Encore. Enjoy and stay safe!

[@jimhansen5395]

Hey Tony. I'm not Tim, but I did just sail in the Haven on the Encore last week. Something to be aware of with the Spa Suite is that it is NOT located in The Haven Complex (front of the ship). The Spa Suites are nearby the Spa in the aft. You still get all of the benefits of the services, but the restaurant, and private areas (observation lounge, bar, pool, and outdoor pool deck, and restaurant) are at the opposite end of the ship, which means a bit of a walk for your French Press breakfast. If you plan to utilize the Spa on the ship extensively, then it might be fine. Personally, I didn't really enjoy my time in the Spa (I had a men's Facial and a day pass to the Thermal Suite. Based on this one experience, I'd not likely use it again. The facial was just having some strange oil rubbed into my face, and the Thermal Suite was a but crowded most of the time I was in there. I much prefer to be in the actual Haven complex. Closer to all of the facilities, and the Concierge Desk, which is where you meet for priority disembarkation, and shore excursions etc...

[@tonykirk6935]

@@jimhansen5395 Hi Jim, Thanks for the info, We have sailed many times with NCL in the Spa Suites but this is the first in the Haven, we are aware of the location of the Spa Suite and the Spa treatments, I agree its a bit of a walk but at least we will give it a try, Thanks again for reaching out to us and giving us the heads up. Looking forward to the break!! stay safe and hope you have many more safe sailings!

[@daniben99]

Thank you for posting this video.(planning to cruise solo ….)

[@mef623]

Never stayed in the Haven but it looks like a heck of a ride. We did stay in The Retreat on Celebrity, which was fantastic. We are pretty deep into Celebrity's loyalty program, which influenced our decision.

[@ginawakehamrealestateadvis535]

Can you share what your bid amount was? Considering bidding. Thanks for the video.

[@melfuentes4184]

Good presentation thanks..

[@laurieromano5550]

Thanks for this information Very helpful...tryin to book a 9day cruise for Bermuda doesnt look like NCL offers 9day cruises in Oct

[@geridegurski2085]

First cruise we took was on NCL in the Garden Suite (3 Bedroom) on the Gem. As you mentioned, first time and I would only go back the same way. As a matter of fact we are booked again for the New England Cruise in 2022 (postponed due to Covid).

[@timatsea]

Obviously that 3BR Garden Villa is a dream for many. I'd love to do that sometime, but it's probably not in my future. Glad you had a great time though!

[@nutz79ful]

I'm looking at going on my first cruise with my wife we have never gone on a cruise before and what to go on a 5 day cruise to Mexico out of California what do you recommend company also we are going for our 20th anniversary

[@TeriMason]

We sail the JOY next week and are in the Haven fwd facing suite. So excited. Our last cruise (my first, not counting when I went with my parents as a teenager), and we were on Celebrity in a royal suite. Now THAT was something. A real dining table to seat six, a living room with fireplace, double balcony with hot tub, walk-in closet, soaking tub and shower separate in bathroom, and a nice sized bedroom with king bed. HIGHLY recommend that! Hoping this smaller suite on NCL makes the cut LOL. I told hubby he set me up for expectations of greatness!

[@timatsea]

Hope you had a great time on the Joy and the suite met your expectations. That Celebrity experience sounds pretty amazing.

[@westcoastkvm7126]

Would love to hear your review about your experience please! We are cruising on the NCL Joy in December; LA down to Mexico and back, and we are about to bid for an upgrade to the Haven. Please tell me all the great things and also what you didn't like, if anything!!!! :)

[@uprootedbostonian]

I have sailed 6 times in various NCL Haven suites because we were 5 pp (and it is cost effective when divided by multiple adults and not much more verses booking 2 separate cabins) However, my last 2 sailings (and I recently did Sept 18th Alaska on the Encore) we were only 2 people in a standard balcony and I had an absolutely fabulous time. Going forward, I will probably only bid via the upsell when 2 pp and for longer sailings of 9 days or more. If it comes through ...great....if not, I will use that $ for more specialty dining, excursions or maybe even a spa treatment! I think the thing I really enjoyed most when sailing in the Haven (and missed) hands-down, is breakfast in the Haven. That was a very peaceful way to start your morning! But seriously....the choices in the buffet were endless....you just had to make a few trips to bring everything to your table because you can't carry your food, your coffee, your juice etc...all at the same time. They certainly make you feel special in the Haven with a fresh bouquet of flowers, daily canapes etc.....but sometimes you need to think logically. Also, on top of the expense of being in the Haven, you are expected to tip the Butler and Concierge and must factor that into your budget. Most Haven guests will also leave a tip for the Haven restaurant staff and their room steward on the last day. So it all adds up. In summary....the Haven restaurant, a LARGE bathroom and upscale bed were the real highlights (for me)......practically everything else on the ship is fully available to you (or a version of it) if you are staying in an inside cabin or a suite! Sometimes people want to "feel" more important, because they have some sort of exclusivity in a special club. lol.

[@timatsea]

I think this is a pretty great summary. I think I'd definitely look in the Haven on longer voyages with more sea days, more crowded voyages, or trips that potentially will have a lot of kids. Otherwise, I think my money might be best spent on the premium dining rooms, which are considerably better than the buffet and main dining rooms in my opinion.

[@uprootedbostonian]

@@timatsea EXACTLY!

[@kalahari7338]

Good point. Great area if you’re sailing longer than 7 days.

[@lindataylor4397]

We love sailing on Norwegian and in the Haven. The scallop risotto is my most favorite thing to eat in the Haven. It is definitely worth it. And yes, once you stay in the Haven you will always try and stay in the Haven. During football and basketball season I book a family Haven suite because it has several TV’s which cuts down on the arguments on what to watch.

[@timatsea]

Hi Linda, yeah, I should've tried dinner in the restaurant once. I didn't have much luck finding American sports on the TVs. It was always soccer...bleh ;)

[@alouie001]

I just recently completed a cruise on RCL as a Suites guest and its worth it. The concierge takes are of everything in the cruise from beginning to end. Do you value time or money? Which is more rare?

[@mymentorjane6705]

What are the tipping suggestions for the Haven?

[@bridgettorregrosa945]

Great video… thank you. I Have stayed at the Haven (won through bidding process) and think it will be hard to go back to a normal room BUT i am trying it on Dec 26th… out of New Orleans… just going with a normal balcony room and realized i missed the bidding option… i am crossing my fingers that there will be just less passengers so the crowds won’t be too bad. Thanks for video.

[@timatsea]

Thanks, Bridget! I can certainly understand not wanting to go back to standard rooms. I hope you had a great time on your cruise!

[@carlagribi6142]

It's true, love the family 2 bedroom. Onward to the bliss 😊

[@timatsea]

I'm hoping to try the Bliss in January. Have a great trip!

[@kokorocky1]

Thanks for the information. I am thinking about upgrading my room to a Haven stateroom on a shorter cruise 🚢. Like 4 or 5 days. It will be a little less than a longer cruise. ( Just to give the Haven a try)

[@timatsea]

Tricy, I think that's smart to give it a try. Some people swear they'll never go back after experiencing the Haven.

[@debicrank-landi1139]

I went crazy and got all the spas and vibe, extra dinners , mostly to hide when we need to- so I crunched the numbers and if I can get refund for both, it’s cheaper- do you know if you can?

[@kendraarmer7568]

Hi Tim! I emailed you with a few questions about bidding. I am new to cruising and go in March. I am looking forward to watching for of your videos!

[@DarthDaddy-cg6ro]

Thanks.

[@bobbyoceancruises7955]

Tim. Love your channel!! Totally informative!!! I was just curious. I'm going on the ncl bliss in December out of long beach, ca..to Mexico. I've bid on a room 5 times in the past on ncl...and never one a bid unfortunately lol...I was wonder do you remember how much you put down on your bid about and won your bid. I believe mine is $665.00 starting..I put a bid in for $700.00. Fingers crossed I get it. It's for the haven courtyard penthouse with large balcony. I also put in for the haven spa suite with balcony..ok...awesome channel!! Keep up the good work!!!!🥳🥳🛳

[@timatsea]

Thank you for the kind words, Bobby! I can't remember my exact bid, but they have the little needle graphic that shows the likelihood of your bid succeeding. I remember I raised my bid just above the first level so it was barely touching the second level. I heard some people in the Facebook group for our cruise mention they won the bid with bids just above the minimum, so you might have a chance. I would think chances are higher with the ships sailing less than half capacity, but I imagine it varies from sailing to sailing. I feel like I might've been able to pay less and still win the bid. Good luck!

[@bobbyoceancruises7955]

@@timatsea thank you so much Tim!! I will definitely look for that needle reading!! Thanks for getting back with the info!!!

[@teams3345]

We always stay in the Haven. Like you mentioned , once you do you can’t go backwards. We are going on a 21 day cruise on the Encore in a two bedroom in April, 2022. We also put in a bid for the Owners Suite. When do find out if you got it or not? We got our luggage tags yesterday for the two bedroom and assumed me did not get it. Thanks for all the good information. We need to use the Butler more but we are just not needy people.

[@JohnFumo]

Teams, The bid process starts about 7 days before the sail date so you still have a shot. Also I'm wicked jealous I'm not going, Have fun!.

[@kalahari7338]

My husband and I stayed in the Haven along with our two sons who have their own suite. It was definitely nice but we didn’t realize other family members were unable to even come in to see our room let alone hang up there. After spending the week in the Haven I would only do it again if others we knew were staying there as well. We didn’t eat in the restaurant area once. Never used the pool area. But absolutely LOVED having the VIP treatment of the concierge service for shows and dinner reservations. But in my humble opinion, NCL a does such a great job prior to the cruise, most of our outings are planned and we don’t need to have special food prepared prior to getting to the restaurant. I just love cruising and yes it was a fabulous experience and everyone was amazing but a balcony spa suite is good for us as well.

[@acnconstruction]

really Karen?

[@Swordsfor200Alex]

If you didn’t have restrictions on non-Haven guests visiting the Haven. You would end up with a hundred free loaders using the private Haven lounge, pool/spa’s and restaurant. The Haven restaurant is the finest on the ship for breakfast & lunch. The best views from your table and finest menu all included with your Haven suite.

[@tcmw779]

We had an aft facing balcony on the NCL Dawn Feb. 2020, we are planning on a Haven Suite on the NCL Pearl Jan. 2022, we very much liked the Dawn and are anxious to see the Haven on the Pearl.

[@timatsea]

I hope you have a great time!

[@t.c.6032]

we'll be on the pearl Jan. 3 2022. 2 bedroom suite for us

[@inappropriateingrid9355]

I will never go back to a regular room. Hands down my best room ever! Haven all the way!

[@s.n.e.8941]

Hi there, Just off the Encore Solo traveler as well. Rather independent traveler. Ship was only one fourth full. So, lots of staff were available to assist me all week everywhere that I was on the ship. No waiting for anything all week. No problem getting seats at shows. I dont drink alcohol so didnt need help in that way with anyone getting drinks for me. Getting on and off at ports was super easy. No wait for that so I didnt need any priority. If I was sailing with a big family group, I might consider the Haven. But, right now with low passenger counts, being independent, not drinking alcohol, etc, I didn't really need to pay tons more money for the Haven. I enjoyed the Main Dining Room which had multiple options each night I enjoyed. I would not want a restaurant with the same menu each night. Too many other restaurant options to make the Haven restaurant any priority. I was usually full all day, so I didnt need anyone bringing me snacks. I already couldn't eat everything I wanted to eat, lol. Since passenger count was low, I didnt need help from a Conceirge making reservations. Disembarking was super easy and fast since not a lot of passengers. So, didnt need to pay Haven prices for that. So Tim, I can totally relate to your opinion. If the ship was full, if I was sailing with family or friends, or if there were tons of kids on the sailing, maybe I would consider the huge price markup. But right now, getting good service was easy all week. Also, in the comments, some people are saying this or that is free when staying in the Haven. I hope they realize that those things are NOT free at all. You paid for them with your hugely marked up Haven price. For people who have about the Haven, at those costs, I would expect even more "benefits" for that price. I would spend that kind of money on a higher tier cruise line versus being marked up on NCL. But, we all have opinions and value our money differently. Happy sailing everyone!

[@timatsea]

Well said and thank you for your feedback! There were lots of factors on this cruise that made the Haven experience less valuable than it would be during normal times, but I'm glad I tried it once.

[@beverlysperry1380]

Hi Tim. Thanks for this. I was upgraded to a suite on a recent cruise and had all of the things you are describing outside of the Haven. What would the difference be between an "ordinary" suite and the Haven?

[@timatsea]

I believe that there isn't a huge difference between normal suites and the Haven. I think the smaller ships that don't have the Haven basically just don't have as many private spaces and don't have the private restaurant (though I think I read that you can have meals in Cagney's at no extra charge). You still get the Butler and Concierge I believe.

[@beverlysperry1380]

Hi Tim, thanks very much. Yes, you do get a butler and a concierge, which came in very handy when I gave a pizza party for my friends! This was on the NCL Star, by the way, and also included a private dining room for breakfast and a departure day lounge.

[@SRJackson-hs2hv]

@@timatsea I've been in the 2-bedroom suite on the GEM, and we got all the same perks as the Haven EXCEPT we didn't have access to the courtyard with the pool, and there was no Haven restaurant. We had breakfast every morning in Moderno's and could have lunch everyday in Cagney's. So yes the Butler and Concierge were a perk for the suite guests. I've been in the Haven on the Escape (courtyard, restaurant and Haven areas) and Suite on Pride of America (no Haven areas, Moderno's was closed (May 2022) breakfast and lunch at Cagney's). Seems like the new ships don't have suites and the Haven (like the Gem), just the Haven.

[@binky2301]

Yes, it is. Next? Except for the unchanging menu in the restaurant.

[@Cha-y412]

We have done 4 NCL cruises since 2015 all on Breakaway class ships as .Haven guests Breakaway x2 - 1 x as Spa suite Encore -1 Joy -1 - The Breakaway and Encore were built for the Western Market and offered a few things Im use to. The Joy was built for the Asian market but didn't meet NCLs expectaions so it was renovated for the Western market and repositioned. All three NCL ships we cruised on were fabulous as usual. The Haven offers us the option of joining the crowds or retreating to from the crowds. I kind of like that option. Personal things I didn't like on the Joy, that the other two ships offered. Joy has no thermal spa Joy has no spa suite rooms. My shower mid ship Haven cabin had barely over a 6 ft headroom , im 6"2 and ot was tight. The other ships had bigger showers. We did the American Cafe complimentary first day lunch instead of the Haven Resturant lunch. The American Cafe was awful. Service very slow , food served cold. I actually left it on the table - my Consigniers found out and made up for it even though I did not complain. The Joy did utilize the crew elevators while in port with Consigniers escort for Haven guests- which is a major bonus, no waiting at mid ship elevator banks. On our first NCL Haven cruise on the Breakaway we also did not see the Butler until day 3. Until I asked the Consigniers where was he. The Butler came to our room and sincerly apologized saying he believed our Cabin was vacant. There was a screw up because at the last minute we were upgraded to a bigger Haven suite. Note - If you dont see or talk to the Butler and room Steward on day one go ask the Consigniers where are they. The Haven does offer a on ship cell phone that allows you to call your Butler anywhere onboard for service. The Butler arrives instanly. What We found a tad bit creepy is that our Butler would just show up without being called , and asked if we needed anything. Happened 3x in the Casino. Once at Cagneys. and once in the Cigar lounge. Kind of creepy being stalked on vaction. I think they track that phone. The Joy Garden Cafe buffet was the best of all the ships Ive been on. I like to mix it up for breakfast and the Garden Cafe was great. The Joy Haven pool area does not have a Sauna area or Steam room salt bath room . The other ships did. We will never get the Haven forward facing cabin. The cabin is beautiful and extreamly spacious, but the walk to the mid ship elevators is never ending, then toss in having to cut in and out of room service carts and other guests in the narrow hallways . Never again. The Haven is expensive no doubt, but we have cut out a few things in our lives to afford the best while on a NCL cruise. Is it worth it? Yes - everyone should try it once. We have an 11 day transatlantic booked on the Prima Haven next November. We are excited. Thank you for your video. I enjoyed it.

[@michaelb1985]

Hey Tim I am doing first 15 day panamal canal on ncl in haven. I usually do celebrity or princess. How does food compare to celebrity?

[@timatsea]

Sorry for taking so long to reply. I've only been on one Celebrity cruise, but the regular buffet and dining room food was better on Celebrity in my opinion. The Haven restaurant I would say is a step up from regular food on Celebrity though. Also, the speciality dining at NCL has been very good in my opinion.

[@patriciajones4355]

I’m getting married in March 2023 on the PRIMA. I have a room with balcony booked. Just upgraded yesterday to a haven penthouse and idk if I just made a mistake or not. But it is a new ship. And I am getting married. But I surely didn’t tell my fiancé that I went back to our paid for cruise and updated it. So now it ain’t paid off no more 🤣but hopefully after listening to your video I’ll be pleased or depressed

[@rdking8001]

Some day we hope

[@campusx4195]

Royal Caribbean Star Class w/Royal Genie is top notch!!! They dont say NO...for example, no gummy bears...no problem because they would have made sure to get them at the next port. The Genie will find you on the ship and make sure you a have a drink or bring you snacks, towels etc. Daily in room cocktail service, all speciality dining included, beverage package, no gratutites, free internet and beverage package. When I was at the casino, the Genie would find me with drink in hand and made sure I had everything I needed. Def worth it on Royal. Oh and they give you a very nice gift on your last day of sailing and it is not gift shop stuff, its high end nice stuff.

[@timatsea]

Wow, that sounds amazing. I've never sailed on Royal, but will be taking my first cruise over Thanksgiving this year. Just a standard balcony cabin for this one though.

[@jameshaning]

We have sailed in the Haven many times with our next cruise in Jan 2022 in the Haven again. Worth it for us and agree the Haven restaurant is the best!

[@timatsea]

I've heard similar. Next time I'll have a few more meals in the Haven Restaurant and report back.

[@mymentorjane6705]

What do you recommend we tip the butler?

[@sheilamacdonell5250]

On my last cruise I noticed that haven was above main pool area..how was the noise..as parties every night and movies on pool deck

[@timatsea]

I never heard anything, but my sailing had very few people. I've never had trouble with noise on a cruise ship regardless of the room type. The only thing I can hear occasionally is kids or babies talking loud or crying in the next room. I've never heard noise from the pool or anything like that.

[@wbrown2481]

How much did you pay for the upgrade

[@mr.balloffur]

I want to go on The Haven. Some people say they didn't know about the butler since they never saw anyone.

[@jjk9275]

good video. By chance, was this a halloween cruise? I see some people wearing surgeon costumes at certain points.

[@jillk8291]

Hi Tim. How much did you bid? I'm on an NCL Epic cruise in December and the starting bid for a Haven Aft-Facing Balcony was $600/person so I bid $800. I also bid on the 2 BR Family Villa. All 7 Aft-Facing Balcony staterooms are not booked and there are at least 13 2 BR Villas still not booked. Like you said, the ship is maybe 60% full so they keep telling me that I won't have a problem getting a reservation even though they are not allowing people to book dinner and shows before boarding. I'm a planner and I just like to plan a few things in advance. As you said, I probably don't need the Haven advantage to get the reservations on this trip. I'm bidding more because I think this is my chance to experience the Haven at about half price. Anyway, my main question is how much did you bid?

[@timatsea]

Hi Jill, it's hard for me to remember exactly how much I bid on this particular room category because I bid on a lot of them. I want to say the minimum was $800 per person for the lowest category and I think I bid around $1200.

[@jbird5959]

@@timatsea Can you explain more on how the bidding works?

[@Swordsfor200Alex]

For the future reference Jill - you can pre-book your dinner reservations for specialty restaurants if you book a Haven suite. You get a Conceirage contact about 6 weeks prior to cruise to go over your room needs including (xtra pillows, firm, soft, your fridge favorites, your in room snack favorites).

[@LG89423]

One other perk - I think. Whenever I wanted an elevator, I'd swipe my card, and the elevator would come directly. Get on, swipe again, and nonstop to 18th floor. Part of the service may have been because ship was less than half full, but would love to try it on a full ship.

[@timatsea]

I wasn't aware of this particular perk. I did know there was a private elevator for embarkation and disembarkation, but I didn't know about more general use private elevators. I'll have to look for that in the future. Thanks for the tip!

[@Swordsfor200Alex]

@@timatsea Yes - it’s in the mid ship elevator bank. The one elevator says “Haven” on it with a card reader for private use to any deck.

[@donnawood271]

Oh yes and I forgot pretty much every time I went like to the Haven restaurant or anywhere really in the Haven area except for glacier bag I felt like I was on my own private yacht because in the observation Haven after there was hardly ever anyone there when I was there but of course a lot of people do the shows and all that stuff and I don’t do those so but you kind of feel like you have your own private yacht so if you like your privacy Haven is the way to go

[@imanthonym]

Nice to see you’re a Broncos fan! 😂

[@timatsea]

Haha...yeah. Tough to be a Broncos fan these days, but hopefully they'll turn it around.

[@carolynlewis6232]

I'm sure I'll never have the opportunity to book a cabin in the Haven since I'm a solo traveler. Which Norwegian ships have the solo cabins (studios)? Have you ever booked a studio, if yes, how was it?

[@timatsea]

I've never stayed in a studio, but I did get to check one out on this cruise. I thought it was fine for what it was. It was well-laid out and made good use of space. It had a TV that could show live views of the outside of the ship. Studios also get their own lounge with snacks and cookies that is only available to studio guests. I've seen prices of the studios, and in my experience, they are usually a bit more expensive than a regular interior stateroom. I think they're a bit smaller than an interior too. I'd probably choose a standard interior if budget was my main concern, but I almost always go for at least a balcony when I cruise. I hope that helps a little.

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

I stayed in our Norwegian solo cabin at least twice and as far as I know they’re on every Norwegian ship and some of the newer ones even have more than others. They’re lounges are really cool

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

@@timatsea The studios for the singles are really small on Norwegian but I think one of the main benefits besides the lounge is that you can meet other travelers to go to shows or meals with. there is a host or hostess that usually has a meeting once a day in the lounge for the solos. From my travel agent one time, I received a bottle of wine for free in my room but I didn’t want to drink it all myself so I brought it into the solo lounge and made a few friends to chat with while I shared the wine

[@michaelb1985]

Hey tim how do you compare the food on ncl vs edge

[@timatsea]

The Edge was definitely a step up from the Encore in my opinion. The buffet and main dining room on the Encore were disappointing in my opinion. The only thing I didn't really like about the Edge was how fancy all the food options were. I'm more of a "meat and potatoes" kind of guy. The premium restaurants on NCL definitely shine though.

[@gretchenbly6832]

Definitely worth the money. We are booked in Haven on the Prima

[@timatsea]

Hi Gretchen, I'm booked on the Prima transatlantic in the Haven too. Can't wait for that one. The Prima looks stunning.

[@debwelsh2564]

I will be sailing on the Encore to Alaska in The Haven in Oct 2022. I appreciate your take on the Haven but I question how you can provide a valid opinion of The Haven when you did not use more than 10%- 20% of the privileges. We have cruised twice in The Haven & found the experience to be phenomenal!

[@timatsea]

Hi Deb, thanks for your comment. I think you make fair points, though I tried to make that clear in my assessments and opinions. Thanks for taking the time to watch! When I cruise the Prima in September, 2022, I'll be in the Haven again from the start so I can compare the experience.

[@debwelsh2564]

@@timatsea have a great time on the Prima & I hope you enjoy all of the Haven as we have.

[@RajahHindustani]

I will be on the same cruise in May :-)

[@733DMPILOT]

It would of been helpful to know how much was for the upgrade bid. I have a bid but I am paying double for a single occupancy. Thanks for the information.

[@timatsea]

I believe I bid around $1200 for the upgrade, which would be $2400 for double-occupancy. This ended up being about $2500 less than it would've cost me to book the same cabin on the website.

[@733DMPILOT]

@@timatsea thank you Tim I was worried that it had to be double occupancy I am traveling alone

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

If you were traveling solo in the Haven, did you eat alone in the Haven area or did you have the choice to eat with other solo people who wanted company or other couples that want to company?

[@timatsea]

NCL usually hosts solo meet and greets the first night of the cruise. I went to that and met a few friends this way. I ended up eating dinner with them most nights and they weren't in the Haven. I did eat breakfast and lunch in the Haven restaurant once (by myself), but I valued spending the time with them over the fancy restaurant. :D

[@prlatina9011]

I made reservations and then received an offer of $400/person for The Haven. I’m not sure what to do, for I enjoy so much the regular cabin w/balcony. Plus, I’m not sure if the $400 is in addition to the fare I already got or the total amount per person. I guess I should call.

[@timatsea]

It would be per person based on double-occupancy I believe. So it would be double your bid price. If you have four people in the room, I believe it's still just double the bid, but I'd call to make sure. Good luck!

[@FilmFactsUncovered]

Do they offer everyone the upgrade or is it just random ?

[@timatsea]

I'm not 100% positive on this. I think there may be some bookings through certain travel agents or other circumstances that would not be offered the upgrade options, but I've seen it appear as an option on all the cruises I've taken.

[@rpmcmurphy214]

I was on Breakaway in an H4 2 bedroom for a week. Nice setup but it's not something I'll do again. Especially for the price.

[@n-da-bunka2650]

Thanks for posting your perceptions of the experience. Two to three times the costs of a Club Balcony would NOT be worth it to us but we could see the value in a $500 or $600 per person premium on a 9 night sailing so we have put in for that potential upgrade but don't really expect to "win" it as these were only $50 more than the minimum. Normal price on this particular 9-night cruise would have been around DOUBLE our original ~$2K per person purchase price so we will see if a 25% markup might be of value to us. We have sailed in suites with butlers previously but hardly ever use their services as neither of us were raised in that type of environment so to be honest, we don't really KNOW how to properly use a butler...LOL

[@timatsea]

I'm the same way when it comes to the butler. I basically just didn't want to bother her, even though I know it's her job. I had the Haven on the Prima for a Transatlantic sailing pretty recently and it was definitely a nice bonus there because the venues were smaller and harder to book. Plus, the restaurant on that ship was out of this world.

[@stuartgarside6137]

Curious how much it was to bid up on the haven ... I have bid before but always failed...

[@timatsea]

Obviously it varies on a lot of factors, but I moved the "needle" to around halfway on most of the upgrades and had success.

[@lynnleipold2617]

For the price of the Haven you could probably sail on Viking or Oceania which we love. However if you want the shows or other entertainment then you should probably stick with one of those big ships.

[@donnawood271]

I went on my very first cruise ever on the Norwegian Bless in 2019 her first Alaskan voyage was in 2018 I think I’m not sure but she had already been up and going for about a year maybe not quite a year and we went to my sister and brother-in-law and I went to Alaska and we stayed in the Haven aft penthouse and that was absolutely beyond words! The only thing I was disappointment in is it seems like the Haven rooms that are not actually in the courtyard itself the decor and stuff I’ve personally felt like was not the same level even though you’re paying the same price when you look at KZbin and the two bedroom villas and even the courtyard the one the rooms that are in the courtyard the colors and everything are absolutely gorgeous and in our room the chairs were burnt orange the Decour was ugly I’m sorry it was just ugly I mean for it being a brand new ship you would think that like the color of the carpet and just I was really surprised I was expecting it to be like a real pretty blue I wasn’t expecting browns and burnt orange for sure! But as far as getting on and off the ship for the Haven it didn’t matter when you got off the ship you had the Haven area that you got on the ship and off the ship you were escorted and the food I had breakfast there at the Haven every morning and had lunch and had dinner and the food was phenomenal absolutely phenomenal. I had someone tell me that if I was going to pick one of the specialty restaurants that the steaks in the haven were 100 times better than Cagneys and so I had steak and eggs one morning for breakfast and you literally the steak was so tender and the flavor was unbelievable you didn’t even have to chew the steak it was and it wasn’t mealy it was just tender that’s how tender it was and moist. And I did go to the garden café a couple evenings just to kinda check out what they had but being on the back of the ship was absolutely gorgeous because you got to see everything both sides and just looking at the water being turned up at night with the light on the water beautiful absolutely beautiful I love nature and I’m going again October 15 we went in June and actually that whole week that we were there it was in the 80s and they said that they broke records every single day it has not been that hot I believe it for a never that was the first summer had ever reached that temperature. It didn’t rain we had a couple times where was a little bit of fog but that was when the clouds were low. But I didn’t last for very long and it was mainly later in the evening. The best part I liked about it too was going there in June it never really got dark I mean you can see the mountains and it was just unbelievable mean Alaska is definitely if you love nature and just the beauty of what God created Alaska is the place to go. And of course we are staying in the Haven again because I personally and the only reason that we’re staying in the Haven again this time is because the price is so good it’s still twice as much or three times as much but when I went in June 2019 I paid 7000 just for me just for me and this trip because of all the deals that they’ve had and because of all the times they’ve had to cancel the cruise because of all the stuff with Covid of course I got a Lotta coupons so basically for all three of us to go including airfare round-trip and our hotel in Seattle is less than $7000 and I paid that just for me in 2019. But I didn’t think I would ever go on another cruise and when I went on the first one we went with our pastor it was his 60th birthday and so it was a lot of people that wet they had reserved the whole 11th deck of the Norwegion bless just for our group that’s how many people went. And like I said I didn’t think that I would ever go on another cruise because we had like almost 2 years to save up for it and go. Because I always thought Cruise and awls I never heard was party party party I don’t drink alcohol I’m not a party person I love Jesus there’s really no shows on the ship that ice felt personally was appropriate just with some of the attire and you know everybody’s different and I don’t you know those that wanna watch that stuff that’s your choice. But I went just to enjoy God‘s creation and to see nature and to see where man has not gone in and destroyed everything with buildings and everything so this was absolutely magnificent and staying in the Haven I would never pay the amount of money that I paid the first time to stay in the Haven again but of course we went through a travel agency and they didn’t give us the perks that Norwegian cruise line gay people. Because with Norwegian the first two people like when you stayed in Haven the first two people paid a certain amount and then the others were free depend on how many people could stay in the cabin they only had to pay the port fees and the taxes and this travel agency charged $1500 for the third and fourth person and I will never go through travel agency again of course this was a group and travel agency‘s can do whatever they want they can charge whatever they want no matter what they pay for the room I’ve learned a lot since then! But I have learned I will never ever ever go through a travel agent again I will just go directly through Norwegian or whatever Cruise line I’m dealing with I’ll do it myself!

[@kimberlyjohnston3378]

How much did you have to bid to get The Haven when you went?

[@timatsea]

I want to say it was about $1000pp upgrading from my club balcony cabin.

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

Did you have to pay double for the haven if you were traveling solo?

[@timatsea]

Yes, you have to pay for double-occupancy in any room, though sometimes they drop the solo supplement as the date draws near if they have a lot of rooms open.

[@DexterpresOU]

Hi great vid. I how do I bid for an upgrade?

[@timatsea]

Check your cruise personalizer after booking. There's usually a large banner at the top that rotates and says "Time to get you upgraded" or something like that.

[@ericafors6039]

You could go on a true luxury line for Haven money, with much more included. What butler waits 2-3 days to introduce themselves? It is their job to check in asap to assist you!

[@timatsea]

I don't think it was her intention, she probably just didn't catch me when I happened to be in the room. Plus, everything was a little crazy since they had just restarted after COVID.

[@RPMCanes]

Does The Haven restaurant have a full service bar?

[@timatsea]

Yes!

[@garytilkin]

You are kind of right with the way you framed your cruise. If I was on the Encore, with under 2000 guests, I would simply purchase the full week of specialty restaurant meals and the Premium Plus Drink package (In your case, you do not drink so that one would be out). The key here is you also would not have had the win on the bid up process if the ship was near full capacity. You said it but I have to add. When the ship are at 80 to 100, the Haven becomes a game changer. It is what it is designed to be. At low guest count, it is questionable especially at retail prices. The same holds true for other Mainstream Cruise Brands. Where the Haven becomes great is when you cruise with two extra guests. The extra guest cruise free (Have to pay taxes and tips), they get all the Haven amenities and drink packages if they are 21 or older. This makes the situation much different especially for my family of 5. Just my two cents, thanks for the video.

[@timatsea]

I couldn't agree more, Gary. Probably not the best use of funds sailing alone in the Haven, but I'm certainly glad I gave it a try. I don't do crowds very well, so I'll definitely consider it again once the ships start filling up again.

[@TeriMason]

How does the extra guest cruise free? We sail next week, got upgraded to a forward haven suite. My mom is in a regular balcony room. Not that I necessarily want her in my room LOL but curious as to how a passenger becomes free...

[@garytilkin]

@@TeriMason I don't know how this works on an upgrade bid. However, when I booked my Haven suite, the first two passengers were regular price. The third and fourth travel for port charges and tax. All passengers/guests in the suite have the Premium Drink Package (it is a perk if the guest is over 21 but you do have to pay tips) also, all guests have complete access to all the Haven. Your 5th and 6th passenger can be as little as a couple of hundred each. So. I leverage all that. Works good but still expensive in the Haven. Worth it.

[@acnconstruction]

what was the bid? any recommendations on bidding?

[@timatsea]

It varies by stateroom, destination, how full the ship is, etc. There is a little "needle" as you raise the value of your bid which shows you how likely you are to win. I set mine just a bit above the lowest likelihood and was successful, but this was also right after the Covid restart, so they probably had a lot more availability than sailings these days.

[@crazybrickfamily]

You didn't mention how much you bid to win the upgrade!?

[@timatsea]

I believe it was about $800 (so $1600 double occupancy), but that sailing only had 1000 passengers or so. I would imagine it's much higher now.

[@thecabinetguy6996]

Hey Tim, can you get lobster in the Haven Restaurant? Renee

[@timatsea]

Hi Renee, I never saw the dinner menu so I'm not sure on this. So sorry I can't be of more help.

[@TeriMason]

There is a KZbin video of all the haven menus and pics of the food. I just watched it yesterday, there was lobster I think... This was on JOY

[@LG89423]

Definitely! My wife and I won a bid for Bliss the first of January 2022. One night we tried to eat light and got soup & salad, with a lobster tail. I couldn't decide between crab cakes and surf & turf for last night, so got crab cakes with lobster tails. I had been teasing the staff about saving a big one for me for the last night. When we were about done eating, one of the servers came by and said, "Just one? We saved three for you."

[@joelenecolon315]

So I would like to know how much you bid to upgrade

[@timatsea]

I believe it was around $700 or $800 per person if I recall correctly. Not cheap by any means, but way cheaper than it would've been to book it directly.

[@calcham1]

Thanks for the review. I'm greatly looking forward to the experience in the Haven soon. It's a bummer that you didn't go to dinner in the Haven restaurant because, by most accounts, it's excellent. It's also a bummer that the main shows were "dark" for your sailing. The shows are a big part of why I cruise, so I'm hoping that won't be the case for me. I'm guessing since they had

[@timatsea]

Yes, I definitely should've gone to the Haven restaurant for dinner, but I met some new friends on the cruise and we ate at specialty restaurants most nights. None of them were in the Haven, so I chose to eat with them rather than alone. Next time I'll try it for sure. It was a drag about the shows, but I certainly understood. Still had a great time though!

[@rosedestima9729]

@@timatseaI wonder if you could of bought a guest back to your room who wasn't in the Haven room?

[@rosedestima9729]

@@timatsea I'm trying to figure out how would they know your in the Haven area do you get a wrist band of something?

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

@@rosedestima9729 as far as I read, non-haven guests are not allowed in the Haven areas I suppose it would get too crowded in the pool areas and other areas. even if they’re guest of Haven guests

[@debbiehoffman8153]

So the penthouse has all the amenities of the haven?

[@timatsea]

Yes, any Haven cabin booking (regardless of where it is on the ship) will grant you access to all the Haven amenities.

[@rgruenhaus]

Now do a Haven cruise when it's full and you give them something to make it worth the money! With no one onboard they should have been honing their skills at pleasuring those onboard!

[@timatsea]

We'll see how it goes on the Prima in September. I'll update you then.

[@southernchristopher2680]

GO Broncos!!!!

[@timatsea]

Haha...I hope they start to get it together.

[@rgruenhaus]

No food images? Haven vs main dining rooms? Food in Ocean Blue not worth taking pictures of? Not even a Haven Steak dinner?

[@timatsea]

Sorry Robert. I'll do better next time.

[@jeremyf6000]

How much did you bid if you don’t mind sharing

[@timatsea]

Somewhere in the $1200 range if I recall correctly. Since I had to pay double-occupancy, it was about $2400.

[@JClore1950]

You didn't show the Haven Bar?!

[@timatsea]

Sorry, Joseph. I'm not a drinker so it wasn't top-of-mind. I'll try to be more thorough next time. Honestly though, it was just a pretty standard bar top with about six stools that was always packed with the same people.

[@JClore1950]

@@timatsea Only a small omission. 😊

[@michaelesq.atpcfii.9862]

U sailed on the fall in a cold climate! of course there’s nobody in the hot tub or anywhere else

[@timatsea]

Personally, I love using hot tubs in this kind of weather. It was in the 50s-60s. A little chilly when you get out, but otherwise very pleasant.

[@andyd7374]

Sounds nice... but not worth the extra dollars. Staying in a club room on the Joy in February. Good enough for me and the family.

[@timatsea]

I've stayed in both before and I would tend to agree with you. Still, it's definitely worth trying once if you can afford it. Have a great time!

[@crv423]

What is your favorite cruise line?

[@enjoyslearningandtravel7957]

I find it a bit strange that the butler didn’t introduce herself until the second or third day usually from other KZbin videos they introduced themselves on the first day.

[@timatsea]

I'm not sure, but I think she might've come by the room a few times and I just wasn't there. I don't feel I was "neglected" in any way.

[@shellyfox863]

I think it is all relative. For some people it isn't a lot of money. For most it is. A few grand is chump change to some. It isn't going to cause them any financial stress in the long haul or any kind of hardship to save for it then why not. For myself I could only dream about the Haven from the confines of my inside studio cabin. lol

[@timatsea]

I hear you. Certainly isn't chump change here, which is why I looked for ways to experience it without breaking the bank!

[@cruiseadmiral]

Reading the comments... It's a typical (huge) cruisers' mistake to operate with the brand/marketing names "I cruise with NCL", "I will try the Haven" while forgetting the first and the most important thing: the ship!! Cruise line is nothing, cruise ship is everything. For example, The Haven experience on the Bliss is far above the Breakaway. On the contrary, the "economy class" experience on the Breakaway is far above the Encore. However whatever NCL ship is, the Haven is insanely overpriced.

[@twilalebold320]

You did not take advantage of the Haven enough. Why were you eating in the main dining room when you could have been eating in the restaurant in the Haven?

[@timatsea]

Because I met friends who were not in the Haven and chose to eat with them most nights over eating alone in the Haven. I agree with you though, I didn't take advantage of it.

[@susanneschmidt6159]

I'm going on Haven as a solo ..when I reserved I had no clue what I was doing so got talked into it..only my second cruise...I'm not used to pampering at all .just need a vacation as my first in three years .. hopefully not to many rude spoiled kids on board next WK . leaving from NYC ...gonna be different hanging with the bougie folks...

[@timatsea]

Hope you had a great time!

[@Jacklewis1026]

If you have the cash, go for it. Not to go into extended debt.. Should go at least once

[@markanderson4163]

easy answer....yes it is worth it...IMO