The Hell for Jealous Wives and Cheating Husbands | Japanese Buddhist Lore

[@Linfamy]

Who's going to this hell?

[@luckyshinegaming8902]

Gourmet sounds nice

[@ImGoingToLickYou]

Yum

[@ImGoingToLickYou]

Yummerz

[@ImGoingToLickYou]

I agree

[@moncmaru]

eso explica lo de YOKO ONO/that explains YOKO ONO

[@DigidesteinedSayian]

The 'women turn into serpents' thing immediately reminded me of the story of Kiyohime. She fell in love with a monk, who pretended to return her affections and then dumped her. She then turned into a snake and pursued him, and even when he took refuge in a Buddhist temple, she still managed to kill him by ringing the bell he was hiding inside and melting it with fire.

[@Linfamy]

Yes! A famous story. It was part of a whole story trope of a woman being spurned and turning into a snake to pursue the object of her desire.

[@gabrielg2395]

The famous Kabuki dance "Kyōganoko Musume Dōjō-ji" is based on that story. It's very beautiful and i'd recommend checking it out.

[@ferretyluv]

@@LinfamySounds like a subgenre of the “magical wife is actually an animal/spirit I saved years ago” trope.

[@ananyanyan]

And y'all say YOUR exes were crazy

[@simi5558]

tbh icon

[@briskettacos]

"They thought of lust and jealousy as women's emotions" Literally no one who has ever dated a man will cosign that statement

[@MrGksarathy]

I have a feeling the attitude mentioned in the video contributed to why people who date men would never cosign that statement.

[@spaceowl5957]

Shows that our cultural norms and stereotypes are sorta random

[@decidueyezealot8611]

Don't need to date one to know

[@titangirl161]

Those Buddhists just liked making different hells for every little thing

[@annalessens8778]

Yeah it's amazing how ready they are for every sin. Like some superstore of hells Step up, step up we've got a hell for everyone. A hell for someone who thinks about grocery shopping while visiting a Buddhist temple? We've got it. A hell for people who do not pet dogs when they pass then? Yep we've got them. A hell for people who play their music though their speakers in public? Yep we've got a special place for them.

[@Belgand]

"Hell of being what?" "Chinese have a lot of hells."

[@AN474-e1o]

​@@BelgandBig Trouble in Little China.

[@R.P-e2z]

"And THIS is the Hell for Baristas Who Give Monks the Wrong Order!"

[@CmdrDingus]

Ah finally a hell i am actually safe from. The man unwed does not stumble into futame jigoku

[@ThirtytwoJ]

Ditto. Wait.. does it count when she isnt YOUR wife?

[@saymyname2417]

But do you have children? If yes I am sure there is a hell for lose women. If not... watch Lin's previous video.

[@ThirtytwoJ]

@@saymyname2417 wouldnt worry about them, there's definitely a hell for judgmental pricks, cowards, and gossipers. nobody asked you.

[@Gunkle_Jeb]

You’ll end up in the one where you gotta dig up bamboo with a string- how dare you not.. uhh, continue your bloodline? Your ancestors are waiting for an heir and you’ve STOLEN that! 👌😫👌 _HELL_ *_straight to HELL_*

[@Gunkle_Jeb]

Alternatively, what do your ancestors have to do with anything if they’re *all in hell* no matter what? I mean, sounds like everyone goes to hell

[@MrScientifictutor]

"They wanted to reduce suffering so the invented more hells" 😂

[@SamWu-mt4eg]

Lol Hell wasn't invented tho is was created by karma

[@gleaming5844]

Okay but like how awkward was it when you were picking out a mistress for your husband

[@Cuban20]

Unless the wife was secretly bisexual and was also picking her own future mistress lol

[@gleaming5844]

@@Cuban20 lol good thought

[@chandranapier2259]

@@Cuban20that’s the best case scenario and yet highly unlikely.

[@chandranapier2259]

I feel like there would be some secretly whispered advice on not picking a woman who can “outdo” you.

[@ikengaspirit3063]

@@chandranapier2259 Yh, like even if she was bi or gae, she'll still be chosing her competition for resources.

[@Miabia1000]

i hate how they put all the blame on women. Like if my husband cheated on me and I got upset about it I'd turn into a snake and be in hell. That is crazy

[@DASMOLBEAN2319.]

Dude same I swear it’s like the world had something against women for no reason not just japan!

[@ABW941]

Remember, he would be there too and you would get to squeeze him.

[@smolboi7092]

What you mean you no want make baby clean house and cook? Off to hell with you

[@M335h1]

Yea… Buddhism is super sexist. Once you start reading actual Buddhist texts vs reading about Buddhism through a western lens you realize it’s as flawed as any other organized religion 😅

[@TheMewtata]

I mean… in this scenario they’re also blaming the guy.

[@jameskosusnik1102]

The women being associated with snakes, honestly reminds me of how in the middle east, lilith went from describing owls to becoming a demoness, who was once adam's ex wife. Entomology is crazy interesting sometimes.

[@TheCrimsonElite666]

There was a time where she was once thought to be the serpent that tempted Eve though that's not a popular depiction nowadays. Speaking of popularity, isn't it weird that Japanese Buddhists unintentionally predicted the future where Lilith becomes extremely popular in Japan? I'm not even kidding, between Evangelion, Darkstalkers, One Piece, Digimon, Yu-Gi-Oh (there are quite a few cards named after her such as the recent Aromalilith cards and Despian Luluwalilith), Monster Girl Encyclopedia, and more recent examples like The Demon Girl Next Door, Shin Megami Tensei V Vengeance, and Granblue Fantasy Relink, she's everywhere in Japanese pop culture. Maybe the rampant misogyny of Japan inevitably attracted her like she's the Feminist equivalent of the Scarlet King? Hilariously, it seems that her popularity in Japanese pop culture is now leaking into South Korean pop culture between Goddess of Victory Nikke and Stellar Blade. Though that might also be because South Korea has had problems with sexism in recent times, and I've noticed a pattern where every time we have a country that has a history of misogyny, she eventually becomes popular in those countries.

[@N.I.A23]

They are snakes

[@MrGksarathy]

Lilith was initially a Mesopotamian wind demon who eventually got conflated with Lamashtu the baby killer, and that later influenced the Lilith of the Hebrew Bible.

[@TheCrimsonElite666]

@@MrGksarathy I'm pretty sure she (her Mesopotamian name was Lilitu) was always a baby killer in Mesopotamian mythology, the only difference is that she drank the blood of babies but that was only a side aspect of her. It's more likely that she was conflated with Lamashtu and was basically flanderised to being primarily a baby eating bogeywoman. Interestingly, Lilith is technically fulfilling her original role as a disease-bearing storm spirit by spreading to multiple cultures and becoming massively popular especially now with the internet. In other words, she fulfills her original purpose by literally going viral.

[@MrGksarathy]

@@TheCrimsonElite666 You might be right. It's been a few months since I saw that Esoterica video.

[@singagency1481]

The attachment to the sponsored snacks turns both the mom & daughter into snakes.

[@Linfamy]

😱

[@rebeccaanne9863]

Is it just me or does the drawing of that guy wrapped up by the two snake women look like he is doing the opposite of suffering?

[@_______________2192]

The snake ladies don't look too upset either.

[@rebeccaanne9863]

@@_______________2192 🥵 now we know why that Hell is so hot

[@impishishere]

Women minding their own business* Japanese Buddhists: Snake! Deceiver! Dirty shape Shifter! Women: Um...

[@KSdt98]

Women: 😶‍🌫️ nani

[@MazuiLakon]

Based buddgist

[@TheEverFreeKing]

Women:um.... awesome ohhhhh yeahhhhhh am a bad girl mmm😩😩😩 Monk: I'm going to have to find you a big strong man that can discipline you and get you onto the road of enlightenment 🗿🚬

[@zainmudassir2964]

​@@TheEverFreeKing honestly I would ask bad girl for date

[@BrotherHood-xh9sg]

I mean, they are not that far of. Just look at what snakes represent and how women (generalized) act. Pretty much exactly the same.

[@anonymouscausewhynot]

Woman: *Is upset her husband cheated* Japanese Buddhists: HOW DARE YOU BE JEALOUS!? Woman:

[@blume0121]

Those are not real buddhists

[@MrGksarathy]

Notice how the burden of jealousy is placed entirely on women and then sigh in exasperation. Lots of Buddhist ideas are really appealing to me as a whole, but the weird misogyny seems to be a feature, not a bug. Also, if some dudebro samurai acted on his jealousy in an acceptably masculine way, did he avoid this hell?

[@azers8298]

If some dudebro samourai acted on his jealousy, the hell for him was the murderer one.

[@heavenseeker2320]

Buddhism in Japan is different from Buddhism in Thailand. They are both Buddhism but it is very different just like how different religion who believe in god almighty have different branch. Honestly Theravada buddhism is the Buddhism where you want to ascend by being kind and sacrificing earthly desire.

[@MrGksarathy]

@@heavenseeker2320 Hate to burst your bubble, but the weird misogyny stems all the way back from the earliest days of Indian Buddhism. Also, Theravada is boring as hell.

[@subhashsahay5218]

​@@MrGksarathyNot really. While misogynistic elements are all over the world, most important Indian Buddhist Masters criticised such people. Infact, Asvaghosa in his Saundarananda dedicates a chapter to mock the critiques of women such people promoted

[@subhashsahay5218]

​@@MrGksarathy Infact, Devi Prajnaparamita is all about the personification of the mother goddess who is also the mother of all Buddhas

[@annalessens8778]

1:50 so thats how Viper came to be...those damn plum flowers

[@WingedAsarath]

"Enlightenment was the door and gender reassignment was the key" - that had me rolling 😂

[@blume0121]

Yes, and its completley wrong according to buddhism. Gender is an illusion- this is what the green Tara said. Also Siddartha Gautama said, women can reach enlightment.

[@buttarain27]

Friend: "You know your husband has been cheating on you right?!" Me: "Yeah." Friend:"You're not mad?!" Me: "Nah, it's all good. I don't want to go to hell." Friend:👀

[@mrmr446]

'but were in no way attached' loved that line and what you do

[@puppetguy8726]

They didn't teach me in school how weird buddhism really is, so thanks for teaching me linfamy.

[@CAL-zq3dk]

It was their interpretation of Buddhism I think , convenient .😊

[@roberteischen4170]

Okay. That transition to the ad was great. 10/10.

[@SokkingBTtulaj]

Women: Exist Japanese monks: We have 73 different hells for you just for that!

[@briskettacos]

The misogyny was baked right into Buddhism from the start

[@MrGksarathy]

​@@briskettacosI know, right? Depressing as hell.

[@blume0121]

​​@@briskettacos Thats completley wrong. Siddartha Gautama, known as the Buddha, because he was the first who reached the highest form of enlightment (there are different stages). He said that women can reach enlightment. Then, in tibetan buddhism is the green Tara one of the most important figures. She was a nepalese woman before. A monk said to her, you are so good, its such a pity that you are a woman, otherwise you would reach enlightment. She said, the body is just an illusion. As a woman, she reached full enlightment and did swear to only get reborn in female form. She is a Buddha (=Tara), but also Bodhisattva, standing for active compassion, protection, enlightment. Famous for helping extremly fast. There are also other Taras, but the green and the white Tara are most famous.

[@lucaskp16]

@@briskettacos all big religions.

[@OneWingedAngelsBand]

Linfamy is the GOAT of KZbin sponshorship ads. 😂

[@TalesofDawnandDusk]

Speaking of women and snakes, that reminds me of the grossest story I've put up here so far where a young woman is. . . *Ahem* assaulted, by a snake and gives birth to a bunch of abominations. It's a really messed up story. But then, despite me loving it, a lot of ancient Japan was messed up.

[@Linfamy]

Ooh, sounds like a nice gross one

[@TalesofDawnandDusk]

@@Linfamy That's one way of putting it. Lol

[@ananonymousbean2731]

Norse mythology: First time? Greek mythology looking away lmao

[@starpeep5769]

I get it

[@saymyname2417]

Yeah, women were linked to snakes in many cultures. I guess that is because they never had real power and were, thus forced to beg, manipulate, seduce and wind like eels. And men didn't quite understand that the position they had reduced women to in society was the reason for that. Talking about confusing cause and effect and falling into the hole you dug.. Despite drastic changes in Western societies (which aren't all as good as they seem at first glance) not that much has changed. At least not for the better.

[@smileyattitude6807]

Yay new video lol I been rewatching so many old ones

[@Linfamy]

🎉🎉🎉

[@ReinaNoi]

Me too my nightly bedtime story 😂

[@killbot86]

I remember back in the day when I came across your new channel and now you have almost half a million subscribers 😊👍

[@cheriegonzales7632]

I was drinking coffee when you started talking about your "attachment". Now it's all over my tablet😂 Your sense of humor is Buddha-tier.

[@Cuban20]

LOL I love this channel. The subtle humor and sharp critiques delivered in short, awesome, Burns 🔥 Amazing

[@joannadevis6096]

0:32 he looks like he's completely on board with what's going on

[@Linfamy]

😂

[@TheCrimsonElite666]

No wonder lamia became so popular as monster girls in modern day Japan.

[@RickJW-OSM]

Morticia Addams : "Gomez, do you know what the penalty is for bigamy?" Gomez : "Of course! Two wives."

[@jasminey83]

Two contents in a month !!! Someone is over working 😅 thank you so much for working so hard 😭😭

[@bigfootpart4therevengeancing]

Kind of funny how the idea of a sin that would result in damnation suddenly takes a backseat when fertility issues pop up.

[@DouglasMeloche]

love all your videos and your history delivered with humor

[@Linfamy]

Thanks man :)

[@Xenon_Proto]

its a good day when linfamy uploads

[@Zhuk-zc8es]

7:13 Can't help but notice that the date is the same as the Heian Period...

[@Linfamy]

Yeah that was my mistake 😅

[@theyakninja]

That betterhelp reference was sneaky

[@Blondegenius3]

This is confusing. These men went to prostitutes all the time. How is that not cheating? Did prostitutes not count? I get that they wanted for wives to not interfere with whatever he wanted to do- but how is sleeping with a prostitute not going to get a man into the cheating man hell?

[@seawurm]

I was so relieved that the advertisement wasn't Better Help.

[@SusanHiggins]

I love that you used trope in a sentence, I'm just weird that way.

[@lightsoulja]

It's always a pleasure to watch a new Linfamy video 🙏🏾

[@mattisvov]

Lot's pf "Joke's on you I'm into that shit" in this hell... Also makes me think of of the Hannya demon, another possible supernatural fate for jelaous women. I used to wear a Hannya talisman for protection. The fastening to the necklace broke, but then I hung it on the wall, to protect my home instead.

[@rizkiramadhan9266]

Tattoo one on your back

[@emmapopovic-bogdanich1991]

That's not a good idea

[@ReinaNoi]

Thank you for another awesome video! Every day I’m getting closer and closer to subscribing to the Japanese snack boxes 😂😂 also I must say those old hell paintings are so creative I love it lol

[@RoyAkahoshi-tsukasa]

i swear everytime linfamy posts i instantly smile

[@Tarbtano]

Always love seeing these videos drop. As an author the channel has been invaluable as a initial start to research.

[@joanhoffman3702]

That sponsor intro was smoooth! The ending was hilarious! 😂

[@jvharbin8337]

Time went on, as time does. No matter what the details are time will go on Lin.

[@Definitelyahuman_999]

Love the random ad family drama in the middle 😂

[@GreatestGames777]

Thank God this came out on a slow day at work.

[@Graysonderuloo]

I was so scared it was going to be a better help ad-

[@you2angel1]

Grave of the Fireflies You'd have to be a monster not to cry at that one °~•.☆.•~°

[@Yumeki_hearts]

Thank u for posting

[@Linfamy]

Thank you for watching ;)

[@Yumeki_hearts]

@@Linfamy 💝

[@stevenedmund5680]

LIKED as always

[@AYVYN]

Having a surplus of love is like have a surplus of consciousness, you either have it or you don't.

[@forcelightningcable9639]

The intro to the sponsorship (why can I see these coming now 😫) had me guessing we were about to hear about the benefits of betterhelp lmao

[@AyubuKK]

What if you just have scoliosis. Would you still be seen as a snake.

[@pugglebiscuit9600]

In a way probably, or at the least unclean since it was thought many disabilities were punishment for a past life or something earlier in the same life

[@theproplady]

Why does every Japanese legend sound like a Junji Ito manga?

[@tinyetoile5503]

You're never gonna believe what country Junji Ito is from

[@thadeuskray]

*gasp* XD​@@tinyetoile5503

[@emilybarclay8831]

Junji Ito did a lot of studying in Japan in his youth, he eventually left Ghana where he was born and moved to Japan full time This is a joke

[@zainmudassir2964]

​@@tinyetoile5503 he was also a dental assistant so he probably had experience of observing horrified faces

[@potatortheomnipotentspud]

2:53 >"They give you stuff made in Japan" >Product packaging says Ghana MFW

[@obsidianjane4413]

@2:20 Just when you think Linfamy landed a BetterHelp sponsorship...

[@sierrajohnson717]

Modern guys gonna toss this at women now when they don’t wanna open up the relationship

[@saymyname2417]

Open up the relationship ... 😳

[@irondragonmaiden]

And the girl will either dump his worthless ass OR use the opportunity to double team him with the would be mistress to make his life a living hell

[@karoshi2]

The just punishment for bigamy is to have two mothers in law.

[@BrotherHood-xh9sg]

​​@@karoshi2two mothers in law, but don't forget twice the ammount of time spend shopping for clothes etc. In stores without seats, twice the nagging, twice the ammount of stories about what Janice said etc.

[@hannahwinterhalder741]

​@karoshi2 Wouldn't the punishmemt also be, that you have to put ip with your wives husband?

[@alf9638]

lol very amusing.... also bravo for bringing back funny ads.

[@kateh2893]

It's interesting to consider the naming scheme in Kill Bill with this information.

[@ABW941]

0:35 all three of them look like they are enjoying it.

[@shafizulafeeq222]

😂

[@raggrother-do9fi]

I swr i came to the comment section the second i saw it 😂

[@ABW941]

@@raggrother-do9fi For a comment like mine?

[@raggrother-do9fi]

@@ABW941 definitely

[@ABW941]

@@raggrother-do9fi A comment stating that they look like they are enjoying it? There is so much old art where the facial expressions dont match the situation.

[@raggrother-do9fi]

The way linfamy talks about Buddhism is crazy funny😂, just imagine a devout Buddhist stumbled upon this channel😂😂.

[@ABW941]

The girl turned snake because of her flower obsession looks cute. Turn her into a keychain thingy.

[@Prich319]

The hell of two wives must be the hell of the whole harem these days.

[@Losshe]

Yay new video 🎉

[@gaorowan5569]

It’s shocking that Buddhism has managed to last for thousands of years bc if these writings are anything to go by you’d think the clergy members would be passing away from misogyny-induced stress every time they so much as see the female end of a seatbelt

[@toibocks3201]

Gotta say, I've been very jealous & desirous in my life but STILL CAN'T unlock turning into a snake 😭

[@Linfamy]

Keep trying, I believe in you 🙏

[@vivyenneSubs]

my parents would straight go to this hell,the fact that my mother almost made my father blind om their first Argument doesnt help either

[@Mikeztarp]

Grave of the Fireflies, nice reference! Made me cry too.

[@Linfamy]

Hard not to cry

[@AlbichuDR]

Funnily enough, dragons in asian culture are closely related to snakes. In china, snakes ascending into dragon(hood?) are/is called Tengshe (螣蛇). So, jealous women are dragons in the making :P

[@Lucious410]

Wow it's crazy how people taught morality in the past 😅. Thanks for sharing 😊

[@ironwolf5802]

I've been to a few jealousy meetings, it was called work and some of the stuff I heard was crazy.

[@TaranovskiAlex]

@Linfamy at 7:00 and on - so do those two periods overlap? or is it just a copy/paste?

[@Blazeknight_6012]

I can summarize Japan in two words: innovative, but weird

[@melodyparra2960]

Just like porn, there is a hell for everybody in Japan back in those days

[@MasterOfBaiter]

Lotus sutra really was the first display of gender affirming misogyny

[@jeffwolcott7815]

In this case, a whole lot of anime/manga characters are going to this Buddhist Hell.

[@theneef174]

Idk what it is but the stress on the SN in snake is sending me

[@LUFFY09789]

Great work!! Clicked on it as soon as it was uploaded!

[@Linfamy]

Woohoo

[@jamesm.9285]

The interesting quasi-paradox is how common cheating is in Japan!

[@richt63]

Interesting video, I love it ❤ but why in the old art it shows the snake wives and their husband smiling? 😊 The world wonders 🤪

[@Tarbtano]

Joy is seeing one of these videos drop

[@tenebrousoul9368]

Could you give us a rundown on prehistoric Japan, please?

[@Linfamy]

Well you can look up the Jomon and Yayoi videos. They're *somewhere* in the archives :p

[@tenebrousoul9368]

@@Linfamy my bad! Will do! Thank you

[@Linfamy]

@@tenebrousoul9368 np!

[@Tathanic]

LMAO that ad transition

[@princessnatasha21]

Yay! Im a snek!!!

[@SgtPotShot]

Come for the Japanese history, stay for the sponsor skits.

[@mintandfruits]

0:40 As a Slytherin girl, this speaks to me.

[@nicholaspiazza8687]

Reminds me of the story of Adam and Eve in the Holy Bible, where the snake in the Garden Of Eden peer pressures Eve into eating the forbidden fruit. Then again, Lilith was Adam’s first wife in the Old Testament.

[@topazbutterfly1853]

I’m just so done with these made-up stories meant to denigrate women or certain classes. I’m a male Buddhist and this is unnacceptable. The Buddha taught that all sentient beings are equal, all of them capable of enlightenment, all of them having the divine Light deep within. Coming up with things like “Women have to become men in order to achieve enlightenment,” “Being born infertile will get you to hell number 3,” “Having a period will get you to hell number 5,” “Being jealous is part of being a woman” (Have you even seen how jealous men can get? There have literally been wars because of men lusting over the same women.) is just devilish.

[@nazlsenay7312]

You have a weırd sense of humae and ı love it 😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@t0mn8r35]

Very interesting.

[@kristinasilverbears5034]

Who else is watching this twenty minutes after it was posted

[@Linfamy]

Me!

[@mathieuleader8601]

this video makes me think of Kaa's trust in me song from Disney's Jungle Book

[@warrenbradford2597]

Jealously is ugly. It is okay to envy from time to time. but we must not hold on to it. It will be our downfall when we do so otherwise.

[@saymyname2417]

Envy and jealousy are not the same. But they are both bad and can lead to destruction.

[@solahaze8948]

btw the myth about the lady who became a snake from staring at plum blossoms is called "Utsusemi" or "The Hollow Tree"

[@Cherry-tu3yt]

Wait but I just realized thet when the woman turned into a snake it was the snake from kun-fu panda1:49

[@NARUTO_CHRIST]

Do you know yokai call waniguchi? If you do please make a video about it

[@SewingMelia99]

thankfully,unlike my father,linfamy comes back

[@alkalisunshine]

thought i was getting another better help ad.