The Hidden 4th Faction in Helldivers 2

[@Yellowdude-hy6vi]

I am extremely racist to bugs

[@ZapderPZ9]

We will all be extremely racist to squids soon 😂

[@dogetube89]

Hell yeah helldivers let’s kill those ink sacks

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Does that make you a...spacist!?

[@GeneralRyko]

​@@SuperEarthSalute Isn't the right term for it "Xenophobe"?

[@rygar342]

@@GeneralRykophobias imply fear, and we don’t do that here!

[@xybetz753]

It would be cool if they added mission where it’s not just one faction and where there’s multiple factions on a map and they’re fighting each other and the helldivers.

[@theman13532]

sorry to kinda ruin the fun, but i think one of the devs said something about that requiring a large rewrite of the enemy system (and possibly other neighboring systems) to get working i assume this is because everything for it is possibly all coded around the idea that there'll *only* be one enemy type on one planet. from personal experience of making a rigid system and later wanting to make it modular, their reasoning is a completely valid reason for not wanting to do it. it's an extremely annoying process, most of the time basically, they accounted for "what faction has this planet?" but not for "what factions are attacking this planet?", if that makes sense. maybe planets will swap control a lot on faction borders or something, they seem to like the idea but can't really execute it well with the current functionality

[@SuperEarthSalute]

That would be great but probably very difficult to achieve! Still, an interesting idea!

[@dranox7197]

@@theman13532 Maybe they could make planets where both factions are fighting, and different missions or operations may have a different enemy to fight.

[@brunothebat4122]

@@SuperEarthSalute For some reasons, the Terminids done it when they tried to take out the bots. However, if a fourth faction is coming, then I hope a first friendly would also emerge.

[@diegoalexander6059]

@@SuperEarthSalute it sounds amazing tho, definitely should be in helldivers 3 if thats ever a thing

[@mrcompisawesome]

In the old lore, weren't there entities that the Illuminate worshipped? Could be a higher tier faction to show up

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Wow, that's a really horrifying idea! Maybe down the line this will become a thing?

[@TheHouseAlwaysWins123]

some ancient cosmic gods or something

[@samuelclark5491]

@@TheHouseAlwaysWins123 the illuminate are gonna mop the floor w our corpses and guts. How can we fight cosmic beings that even they bow down too!?

[@SwayzeConnor-n4m]

That would be crazy

[@1krani]

​​@@samuelclark5491 If these beings were so unstoppable, they wouldn't need the Illuminate. Old cosmic horror stories from pre-unification always had the massive star gods trampling their followers as well as the heroes. "Cosmic indifference", I believe it was called. So, the fact the Illuminate exist at all means their gods are not as almighty as the Illuminate think. The day the Illuminate show their faces to us is the day those faces lose all their teeth.

[@ZDinoNuggiez]

0:20 “Even the ministry of truth” implies that the ministry denies the existence of things that are real, which it would never do.

[@MicahMotion]

It's the ministry of truth, not the ministry of knowing everything

[@LeetleToady7]

@MicahMotion Ah, well, here’s the problem… Democracy officer? This one, right here.

[@MicahMotion]

@LeetleToady7 if you had an ounce of liberty in your brain you would realize I was defending democracy

[@SalmonBeach]

@MicahMotion lol the argueing within democracy's rules is making me laugh

[@MicahMotion]

@SalmonBeach Are you saying we should argue... Without democracy?

[@LM-xw7ii]

4th faction: invasion from a mirror universe. The people of Mega-Earth send their Hell Guard to “liberate” the worlds of Super-Earth from the “tyranny” of managed democracy and to replace it with a “streamlined republic.”

[@Mailliw8173]

@@aNINETIEZkidI smell treason. ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[@fumarc4501]

The Unbound

[@jamesharrison5962]

and its a pvp mode

[@matthewlinus4691]

@@aNINETIEZkid The problem with this is that the very first deployment of Helldivers happened far after "Managed Democracy" got an iron grip on Super Earth.

[@savoncollier1229]

@@LM-xw7ii leave this comment more places😭

[@zacharymclaren5665]

We have bugs, bots, squids/cephalopods. Now we're getting lizard people

[@TruthKeepersOfficialHD2]

Or just people who said "Enough of this over American bs, republic bitch"

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Feels very on-brand if you ask us!

[@zealotking67]

Let him cook

[@borekminer]

that actually makes sense because if the ministry is right then they have been high in the government and in positions of money

[@dextreme7186]

Shush,@@zacharymclaren5665, you might spoil it! JK, talk as much as you like, giving ArrowHead ideas (that don't involve nerfs) is often a good idea.

[@maneon1016]

For me they should be Mutants of some sort. (And they act like Orks from Wh40k) Think about it. We have Biological Aliens (Terminids), Technological Aliens (Illuminate) and we have Technological Traitors (Automatons). So there could be a 4th faction of Biological Traitors (Mutants for example)

[@Soundwave1900]

What I hope for is lovecraftian cosmic horror

[@freeziboi3249]

@@Soundwave1900 That would kick so much ass!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Adding in a B-rate or Cosmic Horror aspect would be really great! Could definitely get on board with a mutant faction!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

@@Soundwave1900 Seconded!!

[@BlueFlameFoxX]

Hybrid furries 😂

[@omargerardolunamorales217]

Theres a Theory that the fourth faction are actually the Cyborgs, It Is weird considering that the automatons are the Cyborg's creation.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Interesting, wonder if they'll make a return? Guess we'll find out...

[@TheHouseAlwaysWins123]

I think the cyborgs will be a subfaction within the automatons

[@omargerardolunamorales217]

@@TheHouseAlwaysWins123 I beleive the same, that at some point they Will appear and will be harder than the automatons themselves.

[@dazurathefirst8456]

@@omargerardolunamorales217 I don't think they would superior. If anything it would be the differentiation between the different bug subfactions. Equally challenging, but in different ways with different strategies they employ, if any at all.

[@Nmx6286]

I just thought they'd be in the automaton army. Like after some update we suddenly find cyborgs amongst the automaton army.

[@dextreme7186]

Although a fourth faction is appealing I like the idea of being able to find living S.E.A.F. military personnel on the battlefield fighting against the enemy, you can use coms to communicate with them and they can utilise equipment from their surroundings (if it's hellpod given weaponry such as support weapons and manned turrets and pelican delivered gear, ie, vehicles , mainly walkers, you can order them to use it), and their tag and status comes up on the H.U.D. like in old HALO. Like stragglers in Termanid infestations, remaining rebels against the Automaton and/or Illuminat. And they can extract alongside the Helldivers, giving you extra samples, RS, adding extra liberation to the goal bar and possibly SC. Finding surviors other than evacuees would be awesome, after all, the Helldivers, pilots, and destroyer pesonnel aren't the only S.E.A.F. personnel, basic soldier exist too.

[@Peppermint_747]

They would die super easily lol

[@dextreme7186]

Us humans are delicate things. They'd likely die about as easily as Helldivers do, maybe a little quicker, as I don't think stims are used by many S.E.A.F. personnel other than Helldivers and maybe democracy officers and pilots.

[@dextreme7186]

Every human does. Helldivers are one-shot by most þings, and two shot by þe majority of oþers.

[@kylerk343]

Yes

[@LovleyLemonade]

"Slipspace ruptures detected." "Slipspace ruptures detected." "Slipspace ruptures detected." "Slipspace ruptures detected." *Camera cuts off*

[@Leonidas_L._Lionheart]

_"A 4th faction? Maybe skinwalkers? My smutje cooked my last super steak medium... But I eat my super steak medium RARE! He should know this! Something isn't adding up here..."_ - Death Captain Lionheart

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Hmmm, a frightening notion but not out of the question, Death Captain Lionheart. We must remain ever vigilant! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@limamasten]

Isn’t that someone from warhammer

[@limamasten]

Death captain lionheart

[@Eppykiora]

@@limamasten I think your thinking of the Dark Angles Primarch

[@Prmarch]

I think fourth faction is fashist))

[@holykobold3322]

I know a lot of people don't like zombies or the idea of another game where there will be enemies remotely similar to living corpses as some are now saying about Forever Winter. But, it would be cool if in the future, we would be shown not just a new enemy, but maybe like Hallowe'en Event where scientists found some virus or created it and that virus works on a similar concept as in Dead Space. As for me, it would be cool to fight hordes of weak but very dangerous in close combat piles of flesh that as an example SCP-610 behave burrowing in the ground, infecting territories, etc., something like in the movie The Thing.

[@MacCalloom]

@@holykobold3322 dead space zombies yes, cod zombies no

[@movealongjon]

@@holykobold3322 the off brand Flood!

[@Dragonseer666]

Some sort of event that happens on just one or two planets, this could be cool, or there could even be minor rebellions.

[@TheMagnumDon]

honestly if it were Zombies they're such a classic I think it would work considering that Helldivers 2 is based off of 1997's Starship Troopers if they did 90s themed Zombies It would be pretty cool It would also be a really neat gimmick to have a friendly Helldiver come back to life to fight against you their body wasn't cremated or gibbed what I think would be cool if they made the heavier units just a bunch of zombies glued together, like the Panzermorder from CoD zombies but if it were Zombies they'd probably do a jacked version of L4D2's Green Flu where instead of Undead it would be a Rabies-like Virus that would constantly mutate the hosts into shit that doesn't look human anymore also if they ever put any time into making a special event where'd you fight unique enemies for a season I heavily bet it's the DRG collab people have been geeking over about cause since Arrowhead is a Indie Dev Team, they gotta prioritize their resources

[@SurfinBirb]

@@holykobold3322 I think space zombies or an infestation like xenomorphs/necromorphs that were made from a bio weapon gone wrong would be amazing.

[@Aldritch9183]

It's kind of strange, but I've noticed the designs of the terminals. It's clear that the Terminids can't build machines on their own, so all the terminals we use have the Super Earth logo. However, with the Automatons, it's different; the terminals have different logos and use green colors for the interface. The strangest thing is that they aren't made by the Automatons, as they don't use their vocabulary.

[@notenoughwater1725]

I am pretty sure that they were built by Super Sarth SEAF before those planet getting occupied

[@thedreamscripter4002]

Automatons integrate population of the occupied planets into them, and also liberated cyborgs on Cyberstan and surrounding planets

[@ArmandoEnfectana-bp6jo]

How can an armless being make machines?

[@lorehammer40k4]

Terminids produce the chemical, called 710, that allows us to use faster than light travel, so all of these Terminid spots we are fighting are actually Terminid farms set up by Super Earth itself that have gotten out of control. I mean, think about out, how the hell are Terminids even traveling to different planets in the first place? It's not like they have ships. They're being spread by us. (Also, it's called 710 for a reason, look at it upside down)

[@temporaltribe]

The same symbol is found on the Cyborgs from Helldivers 1. So its confirmed the automatons are created by them, meaning the 4th faction is most likely the Cyborgs.

[@System509]

Making that god forsaken nerf-date a part of the lore is such a good way to salvage the situation 10/10 writing lol

[@Waroftheworldsz]

It would be so cool if a 4th faction was kind of like a Rebel faction of Super Earth where you're just fighting dissidents.

[@arctic3007]

I fight super Earth's enemies but I will not enjoy turning my weapons on my fellow species 😢

[@PrinceArthur636]

@@arctic3007 An immoral order has the right to be ignored by the knights of democracy, which is an ever evolving concept to serve humanity. I will only fight the enemies of humanity

[@IVIUT3D]

when your teacher says you gotta do a 500 word essay, but you only got 3 sentences worth of ideas.

[@couchcommandoiv5528]

On brand for propaganda media

[@arctic3007]

Every gaming article basically.

[@theburntcookieshub5803]

Honestly, true. Still, enjoy having it on in the background

[@Electro_728]

Actually the Illuminate are really nice and friendly and you should let them inside your house and give them the plans for the space station and the super earth supply line map and - *knock knock* "Democracy Officer here, OPEN UP!"

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Now that's the kind of talk that'll get you in SERIOUS trouble, Helldiver!!

[@Emperorofmankind-oz]

Ye-es ve-ry f-u-nny

[@taddad2641]

you know it be perttty weird if it turns out that the illuminates have a population of humans they abducted from super earth.... and now they are loyal to the illuminates cause they ilumiantes like, actually give a shit about their health and lives Xd.

[@JeremiasHernandez-q6r]

REPORT TO YOUR OFFICER IMMEDIATELY

[@AndreiNicolau]

We received information about undemocratic speech. Report to your democracy officer at 06:00 tomorrow morning.

[@AeonDaemon]

I would really enjoy a human traitors faction, no fire support call ins for them though

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Seems to be the most believable and popular option - and agreed! They would have mechanics that are also unique to them.

[@thebigenchilada678]

I hope you enjoy getting one shot by rifles. Helldiver armor isn’t very strong against bullets.

[@Odog78]

The call ins could be fired from the planet like artilary and eliminated by taking an objective.

[@andrew4720]

Maybe a human faction would be used to introduce pvp gameplay?

[@HandyDandy6]

@andrew4720 the devs aren't doing pvp, it doesn't fit in with their vision for the game

[@simbachvazo6530]

A player-led 3rd(/4th) faction would be absolutely amazing.

[@jacknickolstine3355]

7:57 love how the bugs got money too lmao 🤣

[@THE_GRIMM_SON]

It is time, Brothers! Time for ArrowHead to recognize the clans and factions!!!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

It truly is time.

[@AidanClutter]

@@THE_GRIMM_SON i wonder with the addition of the clan system if the chaos divers can become more offical

[@THE_GRIMM_SON]

@@AidanClutter Prolly, that includes any others, MMO RPG style hub, unique clans, and markets!

[@craig9365]

Chaos divers are g-hey af tho. What kind of sweaty neckbeard would want to Openly say that.​@@AidanClutter

[@avalac5674]

There is only one clan and one faction: The Democracy of Super Earth!

[@grimrants9255]

I can't believe we're possibly getting a horus heresy

[@ustanoksamuraii112]

@@grimrants9255 that’s where my mind went when I heard it could be demonic forces

[@SuperEarthSalute]

It's just a theory for now, Helldiver, but you never know! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@grimrants9255]

@SuperEarthSalute will do. I'm just waiting for my squads deployment. we're the eager sort and have been starved of glorious combat.

[@Cowboysnake991]

the super earth horus heresy has already stated

[@justinsommerfeldt7613]

wonder if this one will take up to 6 books to finish

[@seanbrown2294]

I think Supernatural would be the way to go since we already have Starship Troopers, Terminator, and Battle Los Angeles/Independence Day. Whoever the Bots were communicating with some time back are definitely the fourth faction if it wasn't the squids. Also, I had this crazy idea for a plotline for Helldivers that this fourth faction would be so dangerous that the squids are willing to put aside their differences and fight with SE against this new threat while the Bots agree to not attack us unless provoked while they fight their own war against the fourth faction. Or it gets turned into a 2v2 situation.

[@kassaken6521]

Like Cosmic Horror Demons from another dimension using magic

[@SlayerPDX]

It should be reptilians

[@donovanphillips6278]

Thank you for acknowledging the obvious existence of the Illuminate. I've had Democracy Officers asking me questions daily for simply trying to keep Helldivers (my self included) safe and prepared. FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@DwalinTheGreat]

I think plant based enemies would be cool. There is a lot that could be done with plants and lots of variety to pull from too

[@CryptanalystDigitalSolutions]

Walking trees

[@arctic3007]

Out of all the ideas I've seen, plants would be the most interesting to me, plus we would probably get more fire type weapons.

[@a_ndy2837]

Vegan enemy type

[@jimboanimations4041]

Tbh? I think it would be cool if we got traitors that actually ally (technically) with the other factions, and appear occasionally on worlds under attack. The bugs could have terrorists that seek to control spread the Terminid Infestation. The bots could have Cyborgs as Super-Earth Defectors and descendants of the Cyberstani survivors. Illuminate could pretty much just have cultists Lovecraft style. How traitors could act is up in the air, but I'd love to fight against SEAF defector enemies and go up against other people with our guns.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

This actually sounds doable and would really add to the experience. So maybe not a "4th Faction," but rather enemy humans working with the existing factions. Nice!

[@jimboanimations4041]

@@SuperEarthSalute I'd consider it a "mini faction" of sorts. A set of units made to appear either in specific missions, or in separate groups as a rare encounter. Most units would be given a variant for the different main factions (along with possibly 1 unique enemy exclusive to a faction), and would have mostly the same behavior. Some enemies I see working for human dissidents include: Standard SEAF defectors with low health and armor, but with some added resistances to fire, explosives, and caustic damage to make them harder to kill on masse. They'd carry basic weapons like Liberators, Break-Action Shotguns, and HE grenades. Heavy troopers with upped armor, who wield SMGs and Shields. They'd not have much more base health, but come with the armor and durability scores to soak small-arms fire. Not very accurate due to one-handing their weapon, but they are way more aggressive and support the fodder. Stolen Exosuits, which function as the high-level enemies of the traitors. They replaced their guns with lighter weaponry (maybe a specific weapon type based on the faction it supports?) in exchange for more armor, giving them a little more protection than standard.

[@Cowboysnake991]

this is actually a brilliant plan and now i have like 400 ideas in my head for what they might look like so thank you for overloading my brain and causing me to go into cardiac arrest

[@jimboanimations4041]

@@Cowboysnake991 Np. I just wanna see more going on in the game atm. The little details with bots and bugs are fun, but they feel entirely separate and detached from the rest of HD2's world.

[@Nooptune]

there may not be a set in stone fourth faction, but we should always be ready to fight for managed democracy. Stay sharp.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Agreed, prepare for the unknown

[@davidgutierrezestrada2157]

What if we meet a new human force in the universe that are not of democracy but an empire that what’s super earth gone

[@The_real_monarch]

i think it would be cool if we got a flood like enemy (like halo) and would be able to take over our (and maybe bugs) bodies

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Great suggestion Helldiver, talk to your nearest Democracy Officer

[@TruthKeepersOfficialHD2]

​@@SuperEarthSalute in other words "That's a wonderful mind if yours, Billy. Now go see your psychiatrist"

[@grimrants9255]

Why would you wish such a thing ! Thousands of my brothers have died to support your super earth. Report this diver for both treasonous intent and heresy!

[@Luizguilherme-iz9yl]

isn't that already the terminyds? they are based off tyranids and the other alien guys i forgot the name, basically the equivalent of the flood

[@thegamingdoge2000]

@@Luizguilherme-iz9yl the worst they do to human corpses is eat them, now I guess they could do some starship troopers 2 stuff but idk

[@DJ-Muffins]

That would be the coolest mode ever.. fighting rebel Helldivers for control of a planet. A PvP, 4v4 where each team has to fight the bots/bugs/Squids, but also each other in a race to complete the objectives.

[@ninjaknight6715]

I like to imagine the 4th faction as some extra galactic threat from outside our galaxy. If that's the case, it needs to be something absolutely BIZARRE, like some mind bending Eldritch horror.

[@funkey6737]

5:25 this is genuinely the best idea so far. Imagine working as a team to fight of cuthulu demons like in doom but co-op Helldivers could be co-op DOOM think about that guys

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Hey, we're all for it ourselves, Helldiver!

[@Jhon-Helldiver2610]

The 4 th faction could be the chaos divers or any other type of humans traitors.

[@vid101.]

That would be a terrible idea and go against everything the devs want in the game

[@albertorodriguezlaso5283]

The moment I see an enemy 500kg or a red emancipator suit I'm leaving instantly

[@OrionDawn15]

@@vid101. Well the devs wanted this game to be fuckin' Arma or Dark Souls, can't have everything you want.

[@lyras.9161]

I was gonna say, I think rebels would make sense.

[@legendaerycraft2226]

@@vid101. the enemie soldiers (super eath rebels) would be ai, like every other faction.

[@MoniFps]

Imagine how cool it would be if The Combine invaded the realm of Super Earth.

[@KambrenZaliski-j6t]

@@MoniFps we would crush them.

[@weapieraxe1650]

@@MoniFps That would be Coughing baby VS Hydrogen bomb levels of 'dude, it's all over'. In all honesty, I don't think there's many universes or factions that could beat The Combine outside if Half-Life.

[@EldenLord-wh4ov]

​@@weapieraxe1650Not even half life can beat them

[@LipeSun]

@@weapieraxe1650 That depends a lot on which Combine forces you are talking about, if you are talking about the real Combine army then you can be right, we don't know anything about them and their power, but if you're talking about the Combine forces we face during the game? Honestly, I think they would be wiped out by Super Earth.

[@Jay2480]

Seven Day War instead of Seven Hour War or smth

[@michmal_komentarze]

out of character comment: I love how everything on this channel is in universe. in character comment: I think we must watch our backs brothers!

[@jamestagge3429]

Dude NEVER breaks character!!!!!😂 I fucking love it!!!!!

[@Mister-Toaster]

I really like the long videos, please keep that up

[@SuperEarthSalute]

We got more coming Helldiver

[@Mister-Toaster]

Im very excited

[@SuperEarthSalute]

@@Mister-Toaster Excellent! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@Myder_Dragon]

As a chaos diver I'm pretty happy what AH has been doing. Might turn loyalist again

[@brunothebat4122]

Hear me out on this theory, I think it won’t be all of Super Earth as a whole, but would be cool if a faction against Super Earth turns out to be from corruption, and it’s the Helldivers’ duty to bring justice to them. It’s a cool idea for us to have a fourth faction, and it’ll be clearing corruption away.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Nice theory, we like it

[@TheUncivilizedNation]

The Warhammer fans are gonna have a field day if that’s the case

[@SzuperA99]

Let the seas boil, let the stars fall. Then let the galaxy burn

[@brunothebat4122]

@@SuperEarthSalute I believe Super Earth itself won’t betray Helldivers, but it’s not to say bot or bug sympathizers, or the bots and bugs mysteriously get intel on our supply lines, would have part of the downgrades. We had a similar thing happen in Marvel where SHIELD was infiltrated by HYDRA, which could be both a surprise and not a surprise if there are traitors, which will be our duty to deal justice to all who oppose it. Our enemies could be anywhere, but not Super Earth itself. We also had several surprises even the Ministry of Truth had, which either have problems with intel (reason why I am saying this is because there had been “fake” leaks, but turns out to be real,) or they got traitors among them that loyalists could purge. It would be an interesting dynamic, as the former President did conform there are rebel factions, if I remember correctly. Also, it might be scary to think the resources are actually going towards a private army of sort. Which Helldivers might have to fight so they could put down new threats.

[@ShadowDreamer100]

It would be cool if it makes it an indirect PvP feature, with players declaring for SEAF or rebel causes. Each team goes down and fights human enemies (red or blue colored because faction) to try to move the liberation percentage closer to %100. The game play and mechanics wouldn't change, but pitting the players against each other in a certain area of the galaxy map, even as a limited time mode or event, would be very cool.

[@AsherVolpe]

If there was to be a 4th faction i would hope they would add a faction of Dinosaur and Dragons with guns. Like a Turok type faction

[@sabotabby3372]

You mean Turek?

[@selimacast725]

Kind of like the Cabal from Twilight Imperium ?

[@AsherVolpe]

@@sabotabby3372 no I mean Turok, like the video game.

[@AsherVolpe]

@@selimacast725 never seen Twilight Imperium but if they are dinosaurs and dragons with guns then yes

[@PrinceArthur636]

if there are dragons i want to see them fighting bugs, %100

[@urfork1]

Former chaosdiver, we splintered apart, I’m sure some of them are still out there, waiting to regroup, but some, many of us have returned to the fold. Many of us did multiple tours across the galaxy, watched the creek fall four times and fought tooth and nail to prevent it, and seeing the intentional sabotage by what we now know to be an insider attack disheartened us. But Super Earth High Command is graceful, and recognizing our experience has brought many of us back into the fold, and now even I, a former chaosdiver have taken three new helldivers under my tutelage to destroy our enemies and spread managed democracy, and we will root out the traitors who put the lives of our brothers and sisters on the line, and prevented the spread of freedom.

[@WhenToastersAttack]

A human enemy faction that uses the same stratagems as us would be wild af

[@inkedthedemon]

@@WhenToastersAttack yeah that should be in the game😢

[@arctic3007]

Mmm all the arty all at once, nothing but craters shall be left

[@TheLastFallenHero]

Chaosdiver here, we’ve lost all cohesion now that our primary recruitment pitch is over. Honestly, considering the amount of numbers that declared they would gladly fight for super earth again, rouge 5 will probably just end up being a club where divers relax between missions. That said, we never destroyed the armor, and if something happens, we’ll be right back, like we never left

[@jamesThebulbmin]

Guess is chaover for now

[@eden2419]

I mean its not like the game is perfect, there are still numerous questionable and detrimental design decisions that need to be perfected. Though still, our schtick of being anti-super earth is still cool roleplay so we aren’t dead or anything.

[@Stolskai]

You guys really need to either rebrand or change your group name, Chaosdivers as a whole became synonymous with team killing and greifing. I know that wasnt the original ideals, but its what the group became hijacked by from greifers.

[@Marco_Diamanti]

@@TheLastFallenHero I wouldn't say we are done for being Chaos Divers, we are more an independent unit rn, we are still present and investiganting but not actively rogue or separatists.

[@nickosman1556]

I think a new definition of Chaodiver would be a Helldiver who doesn't listen to Major Orders and just play whatever he wants for fun and chaos only and not for democracy itself

[@lellolatina8157]

Fellow Helldivers, am I the only one seeing a blue/purple butterfly like creature fly away from you every once in a while while on mission? I might be allucinating thanks to my long exposure to the Bloom on Terminid planets since I'm now fighting the Automatons on Gaullivare

[@SoundWave24]

Yeah, there are little butterflies on planets, and little jellyfish too

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Report this intel to your nearest democracy officer Helldiver

[@lellolatina8157]

@@SuperEarthSalute already done my fellow Helldiver, still nothing from them...hope to hear about it soon!

[@Zephyyrrus]

I have seen both blue and red variants. They only observe, never striking. I have never seen one die.

[@lellolatina8157]

@@SoundWave24 dunno about jellyfishes! But those butterflies are really strange, they take no damage from medium armour penetrating rounds...

[@ArachD206]

While it might not be impossible for AH to eventually add a 4th faction, remember that Automatons started far to the left of the galaxy, and moved north over time. There is no big, mysteriously empty section now that Illuminate are here.

[@wintergearz]

I've never played the game but consume this news style content, and it makes me feel like a civilian at home in this universe. Thank you for your services, HellDivers😊

[@axios4702]

I love the whole Chaos Divers plotline, it will probably fall back into a niche clan in the near future but the commitment to roleplay of this community never ceases to amaze me, I'm actually considering coming back. Not for Super Earth though, me and my divers have learned how little they care about us. We will defend the innocent on our own terms. Vera Libertas.

[@sandsrhew1203]

High command be like: Mh... Space apes? Ok, i like it, oh wait, we would be responsible for creating them... Nah you're a traitor

[@SuperEarthSalute]

The inner working of Super Earth's leadership are indeed complex, Helldiver!

[@alexletiny5155]

​@SuperEarthSalute too complex for their own good, even

[@TriangleSmooth]

I'd love a section that has all three factions battling it out.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

An amazing idea - not easy to achieve based on how the game works, but a great idea to be sure!

[@TheHouseAlwaysWins123]

would be cool think the devs said it’s impossible to do

[@sebastianhernandez7434]

Half the map bots the other bugs

[@thygameralot9860]

11:24 THEY ARE AMONG US? EVIL HELLDIVERS? MY GOD IT ALL MAKES SENSE

[@ChildYeeter]

i really want a faction that can disguise themselves as your teammates, which leads to you accidentally TKing your team, and you have to be SUPER trigger disciplined. idk, just sounds like fun chaos

[@Troyaaaa]

love your channel! ❤ keep the content coming for liber tea. May god bless super earth.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Thanks for your support Helldiver!

[@sinso1991]

​@@SuperEarthSalutewhat a waste of f****** time your video literally covers f****** nothing new a coverage f****** nothing

[@TheCerealkiller148]

5:50 i like how this was worded like being driven to insanity was an alternative punishment to imprisonment or execution.

[@ryandinkelacker8906]

The 4th faction, Imagine a coalition, comprised of multiple cannibalistic alien species, each specializing in different parts of other sapient races bodies. This hegemony operates under a sinister hierarchy where power is measured by the grotesque mastery of their prey. Initial encounters during the beginning would be easy to deal with, As they engage in their grotesque feasting, they evolve into even greater threats. Initial encounters with these beings may seem manageable, but as time passes, they consume their fallen brethren and grow alarmingly stronger, Such as: Fungoid Race: Initially appearing as small "pod" swarm units, these mycelial beings can be easily dispatched. However, if left unchecked, they scavenge the battlefield, absorbing biomass from their fallen enemies. Within moments, they transform into towering, armored giants-walking tanks of fungus and decay, capable of unleashing toxic spores that incapacitate their foes. A Vampire race, These ethereal predators glide through the air, wielding whips and swords, surrounded by a wispy, hazy aura that distorts perception. Their presence acts as a cognitohazard, luring enemies into a trance before striking. As they feed on their victims, they become more agile and powerful, each kill amplifying their deadly grace. A Cthulhu esqe race, These towering abominations command the battlefield with terrifying telepathy. Initially, they serve as imposing tank units, but as they consume the minds and flesh of their enemies, they become nearly unstoppable, warping reality around them and summoning legions of lesser creatures to do their bidding. (They could act similarly to the cabal from destiny) A Reptilian race, Acting as the backbone of the faction, these cold-blooded fighters resemble knights in sleek, scaled armor. They serve as thrall units, sometimes enslaving humans to bolster their ranks. As they feast on the fallen, their strength and tactical prowess increase, making them formidable foes in combat. Wendigo race, Manifesting as emaciated, haunting figures, these creatures embody the primal fear of starvation. Their chilling wails can disorient and terrify, and as they consume flesh, they grow larger and more fearsome, with elongated limbs and sharpened teeth, capable of rending through armor and flesh alike. Lycanthropes: These feral shapeshifters strike fear into the hearts of their enemies. Initially appearing as human, they transform into massive, savage beasts mid-battle. Each kill enhances their ferocity, making them relentless hunters fueled by a bloodlust that escalates with each victim. Formless Gaseous Psionics: These mysterious entities drift silently through the air, their true forms obscured. They can manipulate minds and create illusions, instilling paranoia in their foes. As they siphon the life force of the fallen, they grow stronger, gaining the ability to physically manifest and manipulate the environment around them. Maggot Men: These grotesque, decaying beings thrive on rot and refuse. Initially slow and sluggish, they can quickly consume corpses to swell in size, gaining speed and strength. As they grow, they develop a hive-like intelligence, coordinating with one another to overwhelm their enemies. Cockroach-like Humanoids: These mimicry experts can blend seamlessly into any environment, acting as spies or ambushers. Their initial skirmishes may seem trivial, but as they consume flesh, they gain adaptability and resilience, becoming near-indestructible while employing cunning tactics to outsmart their foes. More ideas for other species could include different Insectoids and or perhaps other lovcraftian inspired races. Together, these species form a nightmarish alliance, each contributing their unique predatory skills to the collective. Their interactions are marked by an uneasy balance of cooperation and rivalry, as they vie for dominance while also recognizing the necessity of their gruesome unity. The 4th faction becomes a force of nature, leaving a trail of horror and dread across the landscape as they hunt and consume, driven by primal instincts and an insatiable hunger. The battlefield becomes a horrific theater of transformation, where every fallen enemy strengthens the coalition, creating an escalating cycle of violence and consumption. The more they feed, the more they evolve-turning the tide against those who dare to challenge them.

[@nsr-ints]

What about the Borg type faction?

[@jester_24-78]

Yeah technically cyborgs created the toasters and left to deep space when they got outa hand so the could come back (I imagine them being something like space pirates 😂)

[@yaboidre5672]

Plot twist - it’s literally the Covenant from halo. I’m all for it! What about y’all?

[@Yokyle4356]

That would be nuts if they brought in a enemy faction that can mimic your allies or environment

[@wwpark]

Space orcs? Demons? Predator like aliens? Flood like Halo? Humans?

[@schele939]

I can't believe there's the possibilty that we are going to fight against other helldivers , this is very sad to hear

[@SuperEarthSalute]

A tragic thought indeed, Helldiver...we do not wish for this, but if we must defend Democracy, then we shall do so! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@SomeTexan]

Fighting traitorous humans in the game would be awesome

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Seems like this is what most people expect or are hoping for - seems doable too so we'll see!

[@TheHouseAlwaysWins123]

only thing is they’d need to have a different play style from automatons. Humans enemies are pretty squishy so maybe vehicles would be the backbone of their army. Another thing that could make them different to play against would be they get to use stratagems similar to us

[@Fade7k]

4th would be Traitors, imagine having to fight your own stratagems.

[@SlayerPDX]

We fucking already do lmfao

[@Red_block_tales]

Fighting a corrupt helldiver faction, with their own sratagems form corrupt superdestroyers would be AWESOME

[@TheMagnumDon]

Space Zombies would work perfectly Like Imagine your fellow Helldiver dying only to come back to fight you and their replacement I could imagine the Heavier Zombie units are either heavily mutated in a way like how L4D2's Green Flu works or a bunch of Zombies merged together like the Panzermorder from CoD Zombies I bet it would be caused by some Viral Contagion that I bet would 100% be alien with no doubt about it (cause Super Earth being in direct involvement with the creation of the Automatons and Terminids is much already)

[@SuperEarthSalute]

It's an idea we could totally get behind, Helldiver! Maybe one day in the future?

[@TheMagnumDon]

@@SuperEarthSalute Until then I am more interested in our soon encounter with the Deep Rock Galactic mining company

[@kittenmastermind660]

Funny thing is space zombies are not a thing in HD2.

[@jalontf2]

The 4th faction: Gray Mann's bots. They differ from the automatons in that they run on money

[@n4n196]

I want this.

[@Lyzerz]

I am Chaos Diver and I like your reasoning) But after reading the comments I had another thought about the 4th faction. And what if the 4th faction (which will obviously not appear soon) will not be just rebels, but... survivors of people from the previous super-earths that we lost in the first war. But those who were "Abandoned" survived, were able to defeat / or come to an alliance with the invaders, and now they are eager to take revenge on those who left them to die. This will be just a "human faction", but at the same time will give room for technology so that it does not look like "just a mirror image of the Hell Divers. Vera Libertas.

[@jester_24-78]

Another cool one is supposedly cyborgs created the toasters and then when they got outa control the cyborgs left to deep space

[@Rainy_022]

Another Human Faction should be insane, imagining a enemy calling a 500Kg bomb just for you

[@DazDroAnimations]

One word: Horror Imagine walking in to a big super earth building to collect intel meanwhile something in the shadows is hunting you

[@gaigeschaal9070]

I'd be down for an eldritch horror style alien

[@Chaos_Accords]

The Council of 5 has taken note of this message, and would like to express their own reply. We although having one of our main objectives and reasons for existing accomplished, we are still very aware of the many other atrocities and shall still consider ourselves independent from High Command and their lies. We are by no means trying to make a enemy of our fellow divers and citizens, but if we are one day to fight, brother against brother, then so be it. And know that we shall not be the first to strike, we shall be the first to respond. Per La Libertas, S.E.S.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

So the Council of 5 persists? Seems the Chaos Divers are still very much alive and active!

[@purplethefoxu]

VERA LIBERTAS!

[@jamielee1259]

@@SuperEarthSalute VERA LIBERTAS!

[@Chaos_Accords]

@@SuperEarthSalute Indeed, the Council of 5 does. And yes, we are. And although in disagreement of leadership as well as truth and lie, we currently are doing our best to help aid our loyalist brothers survival.

[@Rini_Sakura]

@@SuperEarthSalute VERA LIBERTAS!

[@wattzx]

6:06 there's your answer people.

[@JamesKoji-f6j]

Finally all four directions have a faction and we can play on planets that we didn't get to play on before

[@lb.akudama]

I think a fourth faction should be very horror based, not like completely survival horror, but they should be scary in nature. Like, perhaps a version of missions that are indoors or indoor sections of maps & they’re just grotesque creatures

[@Capper_Bra]

I was about to say: “What if Its helldivers?”

[@SuperEarthSalute]

DUN DUN DUNNNN!!!!

[@carltonjames2346]

Decked out with alien tech and termind mounts

[@YutaOkkotsu_real]

@@carltonjames2346 terminid stratagem

[@koriksflamekell]

very random, but what's the music used starting at around 4:09? heard it before but I CANNOT find it for the life of me

[@gooeybob_drawing3692]

It be so fun to fight rouge helldivers, like imagine they made makeshift lookout towers and bases they protect. That would be so fun.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

That would be epic

[@christianmcbrearty]

And if they assembled vehicles and weapons to use against you

[@gooeybob_drawing3692]

@@christianmcbrearty that would be sick!

[@iforget_2780]

honestly i wouldn't be surprised that there be subtle amount of horror out there in the galaxy within helldivers

[@papasboppin]

Imagine the 4th faction being chaos divers basically giving us a form of massive pvp battles

[@Alsborg]

A mix between Lovecraft creatures and Necromorphs from Deadspacd

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Geez that sounds terrifying...we're in!!

[@warthunder_swedish1864]

Having that "4th faction" of chaos divers would be sick for a PvP like gamemode

[@Chaos_Diver_Master_Sergeant]

1:48 I am apart of said group, I don’t understand your pestilence of we are wrong.

[@Frankenllama]

that SARS joke is slick, and it's only coz i'm from SA that i caught it. Well done.

[@neongreen1842]

Mutant chaos divers and chaos divers as a faction would be FIRE🔥🔥🔥

[@AidanClutter]

Yoooo, full video!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Every week baby

[@AidanClutter]

@@SuperEarthSalute YEEEESSSSS! AMAZING DAY HIP HIP HORRAY!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

@@AidanClutter FOR SUPER EARTH AND DEMOCRACY!

[@LegendaryKwandaleDingle]

As a chaos diver myself I can tell you for a fact that we were betrayed after giving all to Super Earth, chaos divers aren’t griefers, we simply fight what we believe in but not for super earth. Now due to the fact of high command listening to us we are back as loyal citizens. Whoever was responsible for the betrayal is to be held accountable not the chaos divers themselves

[@dopelsoser3528]

6:04 Nah, it couldn't be dworfes😅

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Highly unlikely - maybe they'd join us for a beer or two though!?

[@spinningredchair8092]

A zombie faction would go so hard. Imagine having to fight your previous helldiver when you get killed.

[@ComradePenguinski]

I would love rebellions that would randomly pop up in the galaxy. Like a random planet becomes traitor, and we have to go clear it out.

[@nitroux6969]

there are only 2 factions! SUPER EARTH AND THE RABBEL WHO NEEDS BURNING!!!! Hell Yea Hellers!!!! 6:45 :V

[@unknown4me]

Illuminati? yeah confirmed coming but 4th faction... well I could surely say it's... [Transmission terminated due to undemocratic speech]

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Helldiver! Please keep your thoughts pure and Democratic! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@unknown4me]

@@SuperEarthSalute ah yes how could I... FOR SUPER EARTH AND DEMOCRACY!

[@That_British_bloke]

The chaosdivers are now nothing more than lost souls who need guidance once more i hope the light of liberty shines in the dearkness allwoing them to see that super earth needs then and that they should come home and fight for its safety For super earth and democracy 🌏

[@SuperEarthSalute]

It would appear some are still clinging to their ideals, but their cause has been weakened following the latest update! Long may Liberty reign! FOR SUPER EARTH AND DEMOCRACY!

[@demyx0067]

Yeah, it's because we're actually quite content with the new improvements. We don't need guidance, we're already back in the fight.

[@internetuser320]

​@@SuperEarthSaluteI dont get why some still cling to their ideal and are so weak in the resolve, just because you have a weapon that doesnt one shot enemy doesnt you have to complain about heresy,rebellion etc. They are protester at best. I have served a far crueler regime than arrowhead and these people didnt seem to understand what being used feels like. True reason for anyone to rebell against super earth is knowing its crime and evil! The biggest crime that I hate the most is the hipocrisy: by blantantly lying to its citizen and trying to make them look like the force of good in this universe make me sick. The least you could do is be honest about it but this is beside the point. Many soul perished due to the pointless war caused by super earth ,and we will never give up until the one pulling the string is brought to justice! FOR SUPER EARTH!

[@SillyName4U]

​​@@demyx0067 a true chaos diver here. for truth and brotherhood!

[@demyx0067]

@@SillyName4U For Truth and Brotherhood!

[@justinnee8558]

i hope they add really cool raid lvl missions for each faction. Its a behemoth of an entity to draw out and you and a team of 20 have to bring it down.

[@sargeanthawk4108]

chaos divers would be an awesome way to introduce pvp to the game in certain planets

[@KonstantyRyszard]

The time will come...

[@caintwelve]

ay you got want you want, a buff for weapons now start serving with your brothers.

[@SuperEarthSalute]

*Ominous Chaos Divers music starts playing*

[@caintwelve]

@ASSASSIN-OBH also thanks for bringing emote wheels to helldivers, i needed that BADLY

[@sushinator4988]

Time to unleash more democracy

[@SuperEarthSalute]

FOR THE FEDERATION

[@BraggisYT]

Helldivers 2 is underrated!

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Preach it

[@sinso1991]

No it was highly praised s*** upon by its own developers and now it's right where it deserves to be at the bottom of the f****** barrel

[@baaaaaazzz]

proposing that another force would mimic even a fraction of super earths power to be a real threat, let alone be confident that they can win against us? sounds like treason, my diver.

[@darkspecter9118]

What if the 4 faction is a parasite like the flood that has been hiding or been sealed for thousands of years

[@SelfConcentrate]

Hey SES, I was wondering if you had a discord server for your channel?

[@SuperEarthSalute]

Great question and it's something we're discussing. One way or another, we'll be starting some kind of community hub/meeting place in the near future so keep your eyes peeled for more! Thank you for your support!

[@SomeOrdinaryJanitor]

i know they said they wouldn't do it, but it would be really cool if they added a Chaos Diver faction as a PvP type mode.

[@brunothebat4122]

It’s like the Illuminari is more likely a treasonous faction that would be loyal to the third faction, as we saw evidence first two factions clashing, so it’s likely the factions don’t like each other. It’s likely some radical faction will commit treason. Something like Chaos from Space Marines except without magic would be cool, just different approach.

[@DavidDavrosWhite]

It would be good if they did a massive battlefield with 20-40 players…something really chaotic.

[@takahashi926]

It would be cool if the 4th faction was essentially one large team based combat conflict between different teams of Helldivers as a game mode