Would These Invaders Survive Helldivers?

[@rougarabid]

The copyright fucked my ass. Started posting this 10:00 PM on Saturday, finally got it up at 7:24 AM on Sunday without issues. Never putting Pacific Rim in a video again. Also yes, while explaining the plot of Pacific Rim I am in reality describing the plot of Reign of Fire. You’re welcome. Discord - discord.gg/atyzDTceyx

[@ubfubeufbeuibinfejnjfnejn2283]

Yeah, copyright shouldn't exist.

[@jel2592]

Sorry that was rough bud and also the lore on the kaiju is they are a bunch of cloned monsters being telephoned there by a builder race who is actually interested in te planet. Kaiju are like thier drones or just war machines and they seem to be endless just portal being unstable being the only thing stopping them coming in endless waves of Massive armies of 500 ft tall monsters.

[@dwaynechapman812]

Can I do it instead of the copyright?

[@r.babylon2885]

Thanks for calling the movie Edge Of Tomorrow. Thank you so much for that. The movie is based off a manga, so I think the Mimic name is explained there.

[@WorldWalker128]

@@ubfubeufbeuibinfejnjfnejn2283 In and of itself Copyright is a good thing. The problem is when they put a computer in charge of deciding what's okay and what isn't. Rouga wasn't trying to steal the IP, he was making a comparison video. This video is free advertisement for every subject compared. Putting copyright strikes on something like this is stupid.

[@Burrito_Express]

I think a lot of the horror aliens won't do well in the helldiver universe as they are most often predatory species being put in a war ready society.

[@Grape7676]

Especially because have you seen what happens, it takes less than 24 hours to take back an entire planet. And also how we won the war against the Automatons very fast, yet they came back but you get what I mean.

[@Tsunamiatunzen1]

Yeah, at first I was thinking alien would be tough to beat but then he brought up a point that they're like the terminids and I said: "In that case, just another Tuesday" I also think the absolute paranoia of the government and its people make Super Earth extremely resistant to the first two factions. Nothing like disregard of human life! If nothing else, just napalm barrage the affected area and then brand the helldivers there as traitors and traitor barrage them with napalm. Necessary sacrifice for democracy folks! Kaiju could be a problem for regular troops but if you add the destroyer into the mix I have to disagree with him about them being immune to stuff it throws down. Is it going to soak up a bunch of fire and a new one sent in to better combat the prevailing tactics? Absolutely. But I've seen the movie and played Helldivers and the Kaiju still bleed when hit with a big enough slab of metal so the humble precision strike is going to be your bread and butter. Mimics I do think are a big threat due to time travel and the fact that Super Earth won't listen to affected Helldivers, thus putting them in a very vicious loop as they are executed for being traitors. Also, the scientists of Super Earth are surprisingly adaptable, so I'm going to say it depends on if they figure out the alpha thing. If they do, Super Earth simply issues weapons designed to permanently restrain Alphas instead of outright ending them, thus sidestepping the time travel trigger and potentially harvesting this time travel function for Super Earth's use and causing another Terminid situation of could end it but choose not to. More Helldivers would be lost trying to restrain rather than simply killing but it's all worth it for managed democracy!

[@minotaursgamezone]

@@Grape7676traitor ass pfp

[@Grape7676]

@@minotaursgamezone But sSuper Earth is in it too

[@Hitmannnn863]

@@Grape7676excuses. I’m reporting you to my democracy officer

[@noblelazarus5815]

“Helldivers aren’t trained” carries a full auto cannon that would otherwise be mounted to a mech throughout an entire battlefield

[@Rhino-Prime]

I'm starting to think that since there are always a war ready society that they train their whole lives. That's why their training is so short.

[@Whazzupie]

@@Rhino-Prime I imagine Helldivers training is the last part of their training because they are picked based on their aptitude scores during regular training, because they'd have no prior knowledge of how to load and reload their large arsenal of weapons otherwise. Also the missions are borderline suicidal, so it's smart (sorta) to have only the most devoted in their ranks, even if they're likely to die they can be assured they'd fight til they physically drop. There's a blurb when you talk to the lady by the engineer that strategems are so expensive they are solely FOR Helldivers, so being taught to use them is specially made for that program. Their training is still, otherwise, hilariously short lol SEAF forces not much better, which are 'volunteer' conscripts that train for a minimum 72 hours. Also an interesting thing to think about is that a lot of Helldivers are on standby, but they were likely frozen in reserves for decades. Those missiles we see in base defense missions are actually Helldiver pods attached to the same rockets from the tutorial-- they're not ordnance like the mission says, they're the frozen reserves.

[@Rhino-Prime]

@@Whazzupie Yes, it does say it's only 72 hours.But what if the reason why this training is so short is likely because like I said earlier because they train their whole lives.They're literally given a firearm.I think on their sixteenth birthday

[@eliupdike]

​@@Rhino-Primethey can enlist in the military at 7, so they have been training for a substantial amount of time

[@cherrydragon3120]

​@@Rhino-Primetheir regular lives are the training lol

[@brycekrispiez714]

Some aliens think they can outsmart us. Maybe, but I’ve yet to meet one who can outsmart 500KG orbital strike

[@_ento_3507]

love the reference

[@brian5322]

Me when i encounter an alien thinkin they can outsmart us: ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️

[@TheBluesteye-t6k]

Team fortress 2 still kicking

[@Fractiøn-pilot]

You'll love the squids then

[@kyze8284]

Average Helldiver: Haha 500kg go ⬆️➡️⬇️⬇️⬇️ Me: Haha ⬆️⬇️➡️⬆️⬇️⬅️⬆️⬇️ My absolutely DERANGED Helldiver friend: *Evil laughter* ➡️➡️⬇️, ➡️➡️⬇️⬅️➡️⬆️, ⬆️➡️⬇️⬆️

[@bremertoncitizen4667]

You also gotta take into account that when a helldivers is killed in combat they have reinforcements ready to drop.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

I don't think that'll make much of a difference for ant of these encounters for better or worse. Xenomirphs and the thing'll keep playing it stealthy till they get caught, Kaijus will continously tear reinforcements apart till the planet is uninhabitable, and Mimics i'll just keep resetting till they've established larger numbers and more secure ground

[@supremecaffeine2633]

​@@GreaterGrievobeast55 So, what's their plan for the super destroyers in orbit? The ones that can canonically destroy a moon.

[@trustypotato9998]

@@supremecaffeine2633 like a single super destroyer? or like, a whole pack of them

[@supremecaffeine2633]

@@trustypotato9998 One. Each individual one.

[@trustypotato9998]

@@supremecaffeine2633 holy hell

[@Mirvra]

Reminder: Helldivers are monitored basically at all times after thawing by a Democracy Officer. Xenomorphs: Any infected Diver would be ordered to self-terminate or be declared a traitor. The Thing: The MOMENT the thing's shapeshifting or assimilating nature is discovered, any diver that's been in close contact with a suspected thing would be either quarantined, or just straight up disposed of. Super-Earth was at war with an entire species in the first galactic war that could use mind-control... AND WON. I would stack the odds against anything that tries to take on the full might of Super-Earth.

[@fox_trot0214]

that's pretty much it If we have even the slightest suspicion about a xenomorph on board we strait up self destroy the S.E.S Super Destroyer and deploy a new one with a fresh defrosted crew

[@Spartan_803]

In Pacific Rim, aliens created Kaiju so they could terraform earth. The Kaiju were sent through underwater portals. That's how they got to earth. It is shown in the first Pacific Rim movie that the Kaiju are sent through portals underwater. They were never on earth to begin with. The aliens could put portals anywhere and send their Kaiju those portals.

[@demian_csomic_winters9484]

I think he's mixing up Kaiju from Pacific rim with ones from Godzillas world

[@Spartan_803]

@@demian_csomic_winters9484 that's even dumber because Godzilla Kaiju are either the result of nuclear testing or they're being sent by aliens just like the ones from Pacific Rim.

[@demian_csomic_winters9484]

@@Spartan_803 wether dumber or not in nuclear option version of Godzilla he was there sleeping under the Ocean similar to what video dude said only difference is awakening methods one is pollution and other nuclear. Do you have better suggestions for less than enlightened people may learn?

[@thatonedevthathasaTvhead]

I think that yhe automotons would just get help from their parents (the Cyborgs) and obliterate the kaiju regardless but eh

[@XD-sc4ix]

Yeah I can tell from the moment he starts talking about them that he has never seen pacific rim nor has he actually bothered research anything about them like it's literally explained how they came to earth in the first three minutes of the movie blud's just yapping

[@LectricVonThunder]

Helldiver single handedly takes down 2 hulks and multiple squads of automatons: Internet warrior:yeah, theyre barely trained.

[@voidtempering8700]

Gameplay is different from lore.

[@illuminatecentral]

they have basic SEAF training and basic SEAF training lets them destroy everything, problem internet warrior?

[@voidtempering8700]

@@illuminatecentral That is Helldivers 1 lore. That doesn't apply to Helldivers 2.

[@keefert0n]

@@voidtempering8700the lore says they were trained, gameplay says training was a 2 minutes tutorial😂😂😂

[@Helldiver5n23]

@@voidtempering8700Training for SEAF is decent, but Helldivers only get 30 minutes of training. We just have so many divers to throw at the enemy that training is too expensive.

[@FacelessFool333]

I like the dumb idea that if superearth somehow learned about the mimics time bullshit that they might start farming that resources like they do with the insects

[@tirefish]

Farming the mimic would be damn near impossible, because the creature that can turn back time could sense that the mimics are being used and it could just turn back time

[@ls200076]

​@@tirefishEyo? Time travelling Helldivers!?!?! ❤❤❤❤❤

[@Shattered3582]

I think once they realise that the acidic blood is a way to gain he time resetting ability, they would probably try to get a helldiver covered in its blood to aid with the war.

[@TheWickedJuggy]

@@Shattered3582Just like the simulations…wait, wrong universe. Lol

[@fat_bird6969]

​@@ls200076 ✨️TIMEDIVERS✨️

[@teknyte-1]

Hell divers are far stronger than normal people too. They can one hit a dog sized insect with an exoskeleton by just cracking it with a closed hand

[@t-e-a6752]

It takes two hits, and they're either stock bashing or pistol whipping it, but still a highly impressive display of strength. It's my belief that the stims they take have something to do with their exceptional strength and stamina.

[@_zaaphiel]

DEMOCRACY

[@cheese97121]

It’s not a dog size, it’s tiger size imo

[@kiziel4]

The Viper Commando's (the Peak Physique trait) has 50% more melee damage aswell.

[@chad6621]

@@t-e-a6752 Unlikely, before you even have any stims in the tutorial mission you can still do this stuff, and you specifically need a booster that puts experimental stuff in your stims to actually make them affect anything else, making you faster

[@ivansleepy4722]

Someone from the internet telling you Helldivers aren't trained soldiers after looking at Helldivers 2 gameplay is such a someone from the internet thing to do

[@pufferfishwarrior1021]

We literally had a major order where we made room for Helldiver Training facility’s. I believe most people don’t read

[@voidtempering8700]

That is because they weren't. In Helldivers 2 they are cannon fodder pumped full of stimulants. Only in Helldiver 1 were they elite troops. I mean, they have a 20% survival rate. The gameplay mechanics dont exactly correlate to lore.

[@theorcamafia]

​@@voidtempering8700those that survive will surely be hardened more than any training

[@voidtempering8700]

@@theorcamafia That is also true. They also set up training camps, so they are likely improving training as time goes on. The initial force was mainly because they were not as prepared as they could be.

[@theorcamafia]

@@voidtempering8700 ye the initial ones ofc and maybe a few vets of the first but currently they probably are extremely trained.

[@dragonturtle2703]

Xenomorphs do have one big advantage: they are stealthy, and good stow aways. I imagine, until Super Earth starts quarantines and detailed inspection of each ship, and detailed searching of planets, they will be a constant problem. Like rats, if rats killed people.

[@Lightplayzstuff]

Your minimap automatically pins anything near you so it would pick up the Xenomorph

[@CroculousV2]

Can't hide in the shadows if everything is on fire.

[@Mr._Knucklehead]

Have you heard of the Black Death?

[@definitelynotabear71]

I agree but I think the thing has that advantage in a stronger amount because realistically if the thing was found anywhere else except Antarctica it would have like destroyed the human race

[@ranimdude]

So its just if every terminid was a stalker

[@KayveePlays]

I think another thing for the Xenomorphs is that any managed democratic loving helldiver will not hesitate to "help" their patriotic brother if they were implanted with eggs.

[@sebastianbronowicki7073]

Helldiver 1: Looks like I have to kill you. Helldiver 2: No, tape a bomb to me and let me jump into their nest! My body for democracy!

[@gianttacogod]

The survival rate on the frontlines for an average helldiver would make sure they couldn’t even birth a xenomorph

[@Sude23490]

I’d like to think our Super Earth Helldivers are so patriotic that any Xeno that emerges from them would be saluting Super Earth and ready for the dive

[@jayday187]

Divers are so 'shoot-on-sight' and expendable that no amount of eggs or facehuggers could surpass their spread of Democracy

[@CorwinTheOneAndOnly]

"Wait wait wait! Shoot my chest first, just in case. Then you can shoot my head. For Democracy!" Helldivers go hard and regardless of who you are they would be some scary mfers to try to fight against.

[@RedneckRapture]

You're missing one thing with the Mimics that's important: If you kill the queen, it's dead for good. No time resets at all when the queen dies. Remember, they killed it in Edge of Tomorrow 'in the future' and then went back to the start of the day and the queen was dead. So, if the Helldivers can stop the queen from landing on the planet, say by shooting down asteroids above a certain size as a matter of planetary defense, the invasion is stopped before it begins. There's also that if the attack Super Earth launches against it is powerful enough to reach and kill the queen, the Mimic invasion is dead.

[@rougarabid]

They were slowly able to kill it due to Cage getting thousands of chances to reach it via the time bullshit and a device that allowed him to mind fuck the omega to find it’s location something Super Earth doesn’t have.

[@RedneckRapture]

@@rougarabid Dammit, you made me go and do research, my brother in Christ. This'll be a bit long of a post. Now that I've looked things up, I think you're overestimating the Mimic's abilities and underestimating the capabilities of Super Earth to counter the Mimics. The Mimics can't target and destroy the Super Destroyers, nor can they really shut down Eagles from making attack runs. This means the Helldivers have a distinct firepower advantage over the Mimics. They can't even set up ambushes for the arriving Helldivers because the Super Destroyers can bombard the area the pods are landing in to wipe out anything there. The war in EOT is also a much different beast than the war fought between Super Earth and her enemies. In EOT, the war had lasted 5 years and the Mimic only took over Europe. Humanity, going on current military numbers, would have lost about 30 million soldiers of its total military force if it was fighting a war and steadily driven back, including their equipment. That's enough to exhaust most of our modern nations. Even so, the omega felt the need to trick the humans into committing the bulk of their remaining reserve forces in an attack so it could kill them off. That indicates the omega felt there was still a very real chance that the humans could defeat it and keep their planet, otherwise why take the risk of having happen exactly what happened in the movie? My bet is that the omega could only create a drones at a reasonable rate, nowhere near rapid. I'd estimate there were probably somewhere around ten to fifteen million drones on Earth during the movie, with that alpha in the movie being either the only one or one of two or three and being present only at very important battles. Anything more and they'd be overwhelming humanity easily at every stop and there wouldn't be a front line. In Helldivers, for contrast, in the 9 weeks that Malevelon Creek was fought over, 27 million Helldivers died and 376,36 million Automatons were destroyed. Super Earth, the Automatons, and the Terminids are able to throw so many bodies into a battle with the Mimics that they simply cannot keep up in a war of attrition, no matter how many time loops the Mimics do. Being able to loop as much as you like doesn't turn something with a 0% chance of victory into a victory. The individual omegas can extend out the campaigns on each planet they're on using their time bullshit, but they simply will lose wars of attrition on each world until Super Earth realizes that if they kill the omega, they kill the infestation. At that point each planet's battle turns into a pitched defense of the omega in one or two battles, allowing Super Earth to focus as many Helldivers on that one battle in that one day as needed to win.

[@JayadeepShanmugam]

​@@RedneckRaptureAnd it has been stated within the lore in helldivers that each and every super destroyer could blow up a small moon. And Super-earth has a few thousand of these in orbit in each frontline planet. This is of course not including the fact that super earth does have other spaceship classes that are much more powerful than the super destroyers (like how will they fight the space ships of automatons and illuminate without dedicated space combat ships). Super Earth can just glass the planet if they wanted to, they don't because the planets have strategic value.

[@sinteleon]

they also have to FIRST get to super earth.

[@RenjiXIII]

I remember in lore it took on 50 Helldivers to take a planet from HD1. They're probably a lot more capable than what we give credit for because to fact that as players we die ALOT.

[@voidtempering8700]

50 survived, 50 didnt take the planet.

[@PotatoBoy44]

"a lot" is still usually less than 30 people for operations so important that they're about launching an ICBM (which the automatons would work very hard to make sure wouldn't happen)

[@voidtempering8700]

@@PotatoBoy44 You realize 27 million Helldivers canonically died in 9 weeks during the Creek.

[@PotatoBoy44]

@@voidtempering8700 27 million divers for an enitre planet, but killed almost 14 times as much, including heavy bots. the average being only about 14 is probably because a lot of times they were overwhelmed and died before they could get a good killcount per diver

[@voidtempering8700]

@@PotatoBoy44 14-1 is pretty low when you consider the Helldivers not only had air support, but through our strategies out the ass.

[@Jeartozer]

I feel bad for Xenomorphs, they usually fight and attack in numbers, and in claustrophobic areas where it would be harder for Heldivers Out in the open, they get ripped appart way too easy. RIP spookie bug bois....

[@samuraibear5102]

If it's one of those situation where the xenomorph took over a planet like in the comics. Where that hand multiple queeen running around they could do better

[@mysteriesmercenary615]

​@@samuraibear5102how? The helldivers will either A) Glass the planet or B) implode the planet with black liquid.

[@Jeartozer]

@@samuraibear5102 Moreso if the Helldivers had to fight Xenos more on THEIR terms. In buildings, caves, etc. Then Helldivers would have less access to orbitals and be less likely to walk away scott free. Also I think Ruga has overestimate bile titan acid, and underplayed Xenos acid. Bile titans havent been shown melting anything with their acid, just damaging/blinding Helldivers... Xeno acid burnt through starship grade metals with ease, and even the futuristic armour worn by Predators and Space Marines... pretty sure Helldiver armour is gonna get melted as well

[@whywright2663]

I'm unsure if even in their home turf xenomorhps would get advantage cause helldivers got laser, plasma, flame and electric weapons. And while laser and plasma might be argued to wound xenomorhps making their blood a problem (although laser weaponry having infinite ammunition without reaching overheat), flame weaponry and high voltage weaponry completely bypass that. On top of that arc (electricity) weapons have a literal infinite ammo and arcs up to 4 targets on a single shot, so with something like arc Blitzer (whis is an infinite ammo shotgun that blasts a wide burst of high-voltage electricity that arcs between all units) or arc thrower (which deals enough damage that it drops bile titans in several shots) the xenomorhps would essentially get cooked as even with their speed the shot is semi tracking to the target so one helldiver could drop 4 xenomorhps with one shot and then proceed to maw down their entire nest dropping xenomorhps like flies with his comrades and at the end pull out the arc thrower or flamethrower literally frying xenomorhps queen in seconds...

[@Jeartozer]

@@whywright2663 Interesting hypothesis. Ill have to check on some of these claims like the laser/plasma weapons having no ammo limit and also no overheating, cos that sounds like an OP af weapon. Does it have any drawbacks? Like very light damage or something? Also, while your arc weapon claims sound good, not sure how they would effect Xenos, and if 4 at a time with an arc is really gonna slow down a possible swarm of xenos, or even a single one stealthing around. They have been shown taking gunfire, and puncturing metal with tails. A queen is also gonna just sit around and let herself be fried, on more than one occation, in the movies, the Queen has been show walking around in, and escaping fire. In Alien Isolation, a regular drone is onky barely slowed down by flamethrowers as well, meaning you wont be able to just cook them up. With Helldivers traveling in teams of three, and arc weapons bouncing between up to 4 targets, thats still only 12 xenos at a time that they can focus on at once, and again, not sure how electricity weapons effect Xenos, so it will be interesting at least.

[@Mike-bf2be]

Actually, the Kaiju from Pacific Rim are from a parallel reality that opens in the Mariana Trench, and the Kaiju are biologically engineered weapons by an alien race who can breed naturally as one was pregnant in the first movie. So Pacific Rim Kaiju can just pop up from interdimensional reality gateways and start destroying infrastructure.

[@rougarabid]

Oh shit you’re right. Forgot about the pregnant one.

[@Mike-bf2be]

@@rougarabid There's also the part where the first Kaiju sustained 2 weeks of constant bombardment from modern weapons, so they are extremely durable to anything but possibly missiles and energy weapons or Jeager melee weapons.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

@@rougarabidappearently there's even whole ass packs of them living in Australia with growing babies if you take that netflix pacific cartoon as into account.

[@Automaton237]

​@@rougarabidand we haven't seen the helldivers have any weapons which are able to destroy planets aside from that black hole which was only because they were lucky so realistically they can't mass-produce it it's a one-time use.. and the helldivers aren't exactly fully armored.

[@Crab20665]

@@Automaton237We CAN mass produce dark fluid. Its just risky, and unstable, as seen when one of the production fluids had an accident that created a blackhole. Its only used as a last choice, as seen on meridia, which is our only example of a super colony to date.

[@crow2-5-x2]

Helldiver's are most definitely trained, I completely agree. Try reloading a heavy machine gun CALMLY and QUICKLY while under heavy mortar fire, and watching one of your guys get misted. These dudes are trained for sure

[@voidtempering8700]

There training is relativley minimum compared to what they got in Helldivers 1. They are basically baseline troops who only got a few weeks of training at max.

[@legendaerycraft2226]

@@voidtempering8700 enlistment in the seaf is 14 or 1^6 jears I think, and you need to be seaf trained to become a helldiver, you become a helldiver around 18 jears, so 2 jears of training in the worst scenario.

[@Gab12345BR]

​@@voidtempering8700 do you remember that the helldivers were already trained before the war and put on cryogenic sleep to save them if the super earth got on another war?

[@voidtempering8700]

@@legendaerycraft2226 Enlistment in the SEAF was Helldivers 1, not Helldivers 2. Most of the people who joined the Helldivers in Helldivers 2 were originally civilians.

[@voidtempering8700]

@@Gab12345BR There were an additional billion volunteers at minimum, many were not the original Helldivers.

[@missyummy1040]

Character 1: Didn't we see a Facehugger melt through a helmet in the first movie? I'm not saying this would change anything, and I'm sure the helmet in Helldiver is stronger than normal space helmets, but I just wish to point that out. Character 2: Sounds about right. Character 3: they can make blackholes? Character 4: Imagine a Helldiver getting the time reset ability.

[@thomasorridge982]

i thought the same about the face huggers and the helmets, but im pretty sure that in the original thing it is seen making a spaceship underneath the shack that they put the doctor in when they think he is a thing

[@rougarabid]

I addressed this in the video. Helldivers armor defends against acid offten and many armor sets specifically specialize in repelling caustic and acid damage. They wouldn’t melt through them in the same way.

[@missyummy1040]

@@rougarabid I assumed that was the case, yeah

[@pizzamozzarella9786]

the blackhole thing was a one time thing, cuz they used an unknown substance called dark fluid they got from the last galactic war and they used all there supply of that dark fluid making that blackhole, so even if they ever wanted to make a new one, they cant

[@CaymenEditz]

the armor helldivers have can temporarily defend against literal napalm. i don’t think the face huggers are getting through that

[@Wisdombird]

Survival video 24 of typing out the words “could these fictional monster hunters survive Monster Hunter” Also let’s fuckin go buff divers Edit: just thought of this and I’m not sure if anyone else said this yet, but the necromorphs from Dead Space would be interesting to see. Might be hard to do because we don’t exactly understand the extent of power they have (ex. The Brother Moons or whatever they are called)

[@Sr.DudeGuy]

Id love to see hack n' slash characters vs Monster Hunter. Lu Bu for example, I think he'd smash most monsters

[@Wisdombird]

It for sure doesn’t just have to be “monster hunters”, I just think that if he was up for it Monster Hunter has sooo much potential for survival challenges. Hell it could even be shit like “could the hunters guild from Monster Hunter survive *insert whatever horrible thing here*”

[@sentane8031]

Necromorphs have mind hacks and almost total immortality, that's pretty much it. Flames (not actually sure if flames kill them totally) and corrosive chemicals are pretty much the only thing able to actually 100% wound them due to them destroying cells. The Marker needs biomass, living or dead, to make necromorphs. You have to pretty much completely deconstruct the cells into base atoms to kill a necromorph for good.

[@Anglaberg]

This is actually such a great idea I hope he sees this comment.

[@Wisdombird]

Chances are that he already has seen it or has monster hunter somewhere in his big ass list but wont get to it for a w h i l e since I'm assuming he doesn't know much about it. But I could be totally wrong

[@darkreflection9087]

Would These Invaders (Starcraft) Zerg (Halo) Banished (Battlestar Galactica) Cylon (XCOM) Aliens (Prey) Typhon Survive Helldivers What other alien invaders should be on this list

[@Furi_S_Poi]

Typhon is a solar threat with ease. So yes, I'm sure they'd destroy everything.

[@Furi_S_Poi]

Replying to boost your comment.

[@Wisdombird]

Not sure how this one would play out, but the Necromoprhs 100% could fit this

[@jeremynewell2541]

(Destroy All Humans) LItTlE GrEeN mEn!!!

[@Furi_S_Poi]

@@Wisdombird Thats also a solar level threat. I don't know how the terminids would do, but I'm assuming the automatons would stand the best chance against them, other than going mad every so often.

[@eliupdike]

13:52 if a helldiver can melee a charger to death, xenomorphs don't stand a chance

[@Death2010]

The "Thing" gains all the knowledge of every being it has assimilated, as shown by the Blair Thing building a spaceship out of random shit from a 1980's antarctic base... it is 1000% getting off that planet and spreading very easily.

[@basil6501]

Agreed. It doesn't just go ham on people; It can also make a perfect copy of people it assimilates, so one helldiver getting could get infected and no one would know. It could go as far as infecting people quietly until it has it's own massive army of helldivers that can transform and do all sorts of crazy stuff on top of having guns.

[@CaymenEditz]

i dont think terminids are capable of space travel on their own. the superearth people put them on planets to make it look like they’re a threat so they have an excuse to harvest their E-710 (oil). if helldivers drop down and see that things are super fucked up and there is no E-710, they’ll just turn it into a black hole like they did meridia

[@rougarabid]

I said it gets the knowledge. I said I wasn’t sure if it got the memories but likely would. Destroyers exist in the atmosphere of every planet in the galaxy and an individual ship is stated to have the fire power to lay waste to a small moon. Once it’s discovered that the Thing is on the planet it will be quarantined and anything attempting to leave the planet will be shot down. So no it’s unlikely it’s leaving.

[@bigdiddyzp1762]

I dont think helldivers are trained for any piloting, but obviously if the thing can just assimilate enough people it'll become unstoppable via knowledge steal (until they try to not get nuked as soon as they leave)

[@IlBuonDiavolo131313]

Yes, and no. 🤔 It's very plausible at least one it's slipping, becoming the cockroach of the galaxy. Not all citizens or SEAF troops in the Helldivers world have the knowledge to build a spacecraft (fortunately). Granted a Thing gets more intelligent the more big it becomes, small forms are very instinctive and animal-like, it's possible it could build one depending on who it's absorbs. Based on what we know, it plausible the Thing would likely want to move to a more populated area of the planet to spread further but also flying to a spacecraft isn't out of the picture. Yes, it cand deceive and ambush, but by using the fact that the Thing only years for *self-preservation and spreading itself* , you can easily deduce it's next steps by keeping these two factors in mind. But in my opinion, due to how violently social and numerous we humans are, we could easily detect one before it's too late. It happened to the Norwegian outpost and the Outpost 31 with relative ease, just send a message to a Super Destroyer, quarantine the area and done!

[@dragonturtle2703]

P.s. The automatons might actually end up using Xenomorphs in their invasions as a bioweapon. Just train a queen to realize "these guys aren't hostile if I leave them alone, and are useless to me." Xenomorphs, especially the queens, are very smart.

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

On hand every story in comics or novels or even the movies of trying to "train" a xenomorph almost always goes wrong. Of course it should be different for autonomatons as they often leave synthetics alone of they don't interfere, sooo maybe?

[@dragonturtle2703]

@@GreaterGrievobeast55 just figure, the biggest thing will be avoiding being targeted as a potential food source and threat. Which might be just sacrificing automata until they learn it. The xenomorphs are smart. Transporting the eggs might be a problem, but if nothing else, maybe just having some live humans on the ships to get xenomorphs inside, then taking off. If the queen doesn’t figure it out herself.

[@crackededge9351]

The Automatons don’t need the Xenomorphs. They are a very advanced machine species that is capable of interstellar travel, developing orbital railcanons that shoot down spaceships, and Star Wars levels of super weapons (At-At Walkers). The Xenomorphs are not worth the hassle of keeping alive for Automatons.

[@dragonturtle2703]

@@crackededge9351 fair enough.

[@Kkk-cc1iy]

​@@crackededge9351Nope. Its a free bio weapon. You can stop an infestation but not before 5000 people died. All you have to do is drop 1 then it asexally reproduces through egg morphing and caused an infestation. One automiton cant do that. You create a problem that doesnt cost you much to create compared to what the enemy spends to keep the problem non lethal.

[@claymungas7082]

I love the phrasing of the title because this really is more a question of whether the aliens could survive the helldivers than if the helldivers can survive the aliens, which is really fucking funny.

[@XtremePlayz01]

19:50 worse comes to worst, the planet gets the Meridia treatment

[@MMAddict39]

The only reason The Thing was really able to be defeated was because they were in the middle of the Antarctic completely separated from most biological life and even then everyone still died. If The Thing starts out on a heavily populated planet or just any area with large amounts of biological life (a Terminid controlled planet would be catastrophic) it will spread like wildfire. Couple that with its ability to assimilate the knowledge and personalities of those it comes into contact with and things will snowball completely out of control in no time and doom the entire galaxy to the point where the Automatons may be our only hope and even then its not guaranteed since by that point The Thing would be able to combat the Automatons using the knowledge and weaponry of Super Earth.

[@reneantoniorodriguezippoli7561]

Furthermore, in the scenario of total loss of control, it would be the robots vs. the entire galaxy without any distraction that prevents concentrating all military power on a single objective.

[@Gab12345BR]

hear me out, i think the autos would win, we defeated them but they still managed to come back from out of the galaxy

[@tchoythao1730]

Pretty sure the creators said that the thing needs a good portion of contact for assimilation. A few cells ain’t doing much to assimilate.

[@P.H691]

If the Thing becomes way too big to manage, Super Earth might manually detonate the planet to contain the damn thing or create another black hole

[@justadel2]

Black hole beyotch

[@douglasbullet6456]

Xenomorphs Planet: *Exist* Helldivers: "Look At This Glorious Sight, All Of These Ships Hovering Above This God-Forsaken Rock, Waiting To Shoot Down Helldivers To Take This Planet For Our Own" ☄️

[@techromancerzero2709]

You don't gain Mimic time reset powers if you're covered in the blood of an alpha. That alone is not enough. You have to be covered in the blood of an alpha (maybe have it go into your mouth), at the exact same time that you are killed. That's why it's so rare for it to happen.

[@MisterRombus-]

The Kaiju come from another dimension, the rift is opened from another dimension completely underwater. The Kaiju themselves are not the aliens, their the weapons the aliens send to kill off the humans. And what makes them so freaking dangerous is that because that portal is open they can just keep sending more and more through it at whatever pace they’d like. In the movie they managed to send a Jaeger through the rift and blew a nuclear bomb on the other side, stopping their advance for decades.

[@rougarabid]

I don’t think that’s true. Not the being sent from the breach thing them being able to send as many as they like. It makes no sense for them to only send 1 at a time for decade with a max of 3 if they could just swarm the whole planet with Kaiju. Having said that it doesn’t make a difference the issues the Kaiju have with needing higher CO2 levels to survive will still be an issue.

[@MisterRombus-]

@@rougarabid you’re right about the CO2 thing, as polluted as the blood of the Kaiju is the creators that made them wouldn’t really try it as that would be too much work for it to be worth it. but in the movie it was an actual plot point that the rift was getting bigger and the Kaiju were coming through at a faster rate. At first it was like once a month, but over the course of a few years bigger ones kept coming through, and they started coming through faster than before. By the events of the movie they were able to send 2 extra big Kaiju through the rift, and not an hour after that 3 more really big ones. However the war torn worlds will be a serious F’ing problem as there is smoke in the air and lead in the ground on those worlds… in fact the war itself might actually be creating the conditions on these planets for the precursors to send the Kaiju through

[@edima]

@@MisterRombus- This is super well said. i was just thinking that too, the Rift was originally unable to send more than 1 kaiju every few months, but as time went on bigger and badder ones were able to go through (almost like the aliens where also advancing their own technology along the way) by the time of the dreaded second movie, the aliens were able to somehow take over a human mind and open a rift big enough for 2-3 super kaijus at once, so who knows what the helldivers would do then

[@bigdiddyzp1762]

​@edima the kaiju were spaced out so much only to test exactly how much force was needed to wipe the planet for terraforming. The aliens were basically sending scouts to test the waters, but got nuked for taking their time.

[@SalkolianLegion]

@@rougarabid Don't ask me why but the aliens make kaiju by the hundreds then only send the best of the best out after they battle their siblings to the death. Yes its dumb

[@Valerijsfx]

For the intro part, my theory is that the helldivers are clones based off the original (your character) and their memories are put in the next diver and yourself. Which is why all your divers have the exact same loadout, stratagems, armor, etc. It also implicates the idea that when you burn through reinforcements, you have to wait for more because they’re cloning new divers

[@keaganhoman7759]

In defense of the Thing, there weren’t that many places to hide on a research base in Antarctica, it actually took about 2-3 days till they found out, and by then 3-4 of the original 12 were assimilated.

[@keaganhoman7759]

Just imagine, a squad of four Helldivers are sent down a terminid world and kick ass. One is stabbed by a strange terminid, but they manage to kill it as they stim their fellow Helldiver. They return to their destroyer to celebrate their victory when their once friend lurks among them as the Thing. If they find out, they’ll crash that ship into the planet, like the original movie. If not, they may hop from Helldiver to Helldiver to get to super earth.

[@zerohour9861]

Don’t be ashamed of spamming Xenomorphs. They are so iconic it’s like talking about sci-fi and not mentioning Star Wars. This is that but for aliens.

[@shaness112233]

If the Thing gets on a civilian planet with flora and fauna, it will take over MUCH faster than you think. The only reason it didn't immediately take over Earth in it's own movie is because it's in a frozen tundra and doesn't have access to biomass, if it dropped in a forest the entire planet would be fucked. Also, if it assimilates even one person who can fly a spaceship, it WILL get off planet because it has all of their memories and would know that Super Earth will destroy it eventually if it doesn't spread out. I also believe it would be much more stealthy than it was in the movie. In the movie, it was starving for who knows how long before it came into contact with people so it would have immediately attacked. After it had assimilated one person and knew how isolated they were from their memories it would really have no reason to hide anymore, because it knew help wasn't coming. If it both had ready access to food in a temperate area and knew that Super Earth would just glass it if it got too freaky, it would absolutely lie low. It might even get a part of it onto Super Earth before anyone knew what was happening, and we don't know what the defenses of Super Earth actually look like. If it hasn't been invaded in hundreds of years then it's quite likely that all of it's defenses are focused outward and it won't be able to respond too quickly on the ground, which would give the Thing enough time to spread and become a real issue.

[@lejenddairy]

Thats what I’m saying. Anyone who’s actually seen The Thing knows that the Helldivers wouldn’t stand a chance. The Thing is an extinction level threat. People think the terminid population is bad, the thing is infinitely worse. Quite literally. We are talking about a species that not only can spread rapidly and indefinitely, but can also take on the form of anything it’s came in contact with, with 100% precision and has the knowledge of everything it’s ever assimilated.

[@shaness112233]

@@lejenddairy I mean, it's not 100% that The Thing would get to Super Earth. If it is found out before then, the Helldivers have a fairly high chance of black hole-ing it into oblivion. They cannonically CAN just delete entire planets, after all. If it DOES get onto Super Earth, though, it will immediately destroy the entire propaganda pipeline that is the backbone of the government. If the populace can't trust each other not to be compromised then everything would fall apart like a large-scale version of what we saw in the movie, and I don't think ANY fictional government could hide The Thing from their people if it really got rolling. The problem is that detecting The Thing once you already know it exists is very easy. The Antarctica base only had 10 people and they still found a way to pinpoint it. I imagine a ultra-authoritarian, propaganda based government would have no problem mandating regular blood tests from anyone who is using their.. air space, but in space? Space space? If a ship refuses the check it gets deleted, no questions asked, and people celebrate it as a victory even if it was someone who just had a faulty comms module. I'd say The Thing almost always wins if it gets to Super Earth before it's found, probably 25%-ish win rate if it spreads to multiple planets but not Super Earth before it's found, and guaranteed loss if it is caught on a single planet.

[@libertyprime1614]

The thing under the disguise of civilians will just infiltrate the Superearth, after taking over distant colonies. It will have ships weapons and better tech than Superearth.

[@-Mu-min]

Helldivers against xenos would be a funny one Tyrannids against helldivers would be a nightmare

[@nicksnacks]

24:57 I'm pretty sure in the first Pacific rim movie it goes over how the Kaiju are essentially being teleported from another planet/ universe/ dimension and are just bio titans created with earth fauna DNA to wipe out humanity now that human have terraformed the planet But they are being teleported through a "rift" by their creators who you see right before the bomb goes off at the end of the trench fight

[@bigdiddyzp1762]

My BIG contest against the xenomorph argument is that the helldivers only get sent in BEHIND enemy lines, meaning just like the automatons, the xenos get to potentially farm seaf platoons before the helldivers get to the fight. And despite certain horde shooters, its proven that one decent xeno warrior can wipe out a whole team of people metal gear style

[@someoneindeed]

The basic xenomorph is basically like a stalker, if the stalker was a bit smarter, could insta kill you and you die if you kill it. helldivers already kinda have issues dealing with stalkers, now imagine the entire planet is stalkers, imagine xenomorph upgraded stalkers, imagine if bile titans acted like stalkers.

[@psychodoxie6987]

I like to think the tutorial is just a quick recap of what they have learned throughout their training

[@Muffinisnuffin]

There are some issues. Super Earth isn't very clean outside of the megacities covering the continent. Before the first galactic war in the introduction of the helldivers the battle zones against the main opposition and early cyborgs caused for some continent wide exclusion zones so polluted and destroyed government and civilian access is prohibited. Bug planets are also incredibly polluted by the bugs. A single spore spewer can form a gas cloud large enough to black out a city. Almost every single sector in a Bug planet has 1 for each helldiver mission. Hundreds of missions happen a day on that one sector, you get the idea.

[@davidweaver4436]

To be fair, the Viper commandos who are less armored are also basically close quarters specialists, so it actually wouldn't be surprising for them to get the Alpha blood. They use knives, carbines (shorter ranged assault rifles), and sawed off shotguns if we go by their warbond offerings. Also there are the Helldiver scout/light armors which are way weaker and seem to have a lot of cloth parts that the acid blood could possibly get through. Across dozens of planets and millions and millions of Helldivers, I think it's more likely than you suggested. As for who would actually win in the long run, I don't know enough about the Mimics.

[@Manscellaneous]

Did you watch the Pacific rim movie where the Kaiju come out of a portal under the ocean, and the mc eventually closes it.

[@samflynn7439]

12:22 Kane was wearing a helmet in the first alien movie, the facehugger used its acid to melt through. Helmet or no helmet, its still hugging that face.

[@rougarabid]

I explain this in the video.

[@Lookalikealagaler]

Alright, one more thing. The Kaiju aren't underground, they have a portal in the ocean, but they live in a different universe. Edit: The Kaiju themselves are also just a manufacturered monster made by a smaller, highly advanced race.

[@AMPMASTER10]

Im afraid your assessment of the Thing is inaccurate. 1. The Things retain the memory of their victims. How else can they mimic their hosts so perfectly. 2. They. Can. Build. Their. Own. Ships. Blair-Thing was building one. 3. Plate armor doesn't cover every part of the Helldiver. There is gaps were we see a body glove. The Thing only needs to stab/scratch/bite these places, and the diver is already dead.

[@enclavesoldier6320]

I feel like the thing wouldn’t immediately be able to build a spaceship and escape but probably after taking over something like a major population center. Also even if the helldivers bomb the planet to death, probably one or more ships containing the Thing would escape the planet (likely gaining the info about the bugs) and heading over to that system and spreading like wildfire

[@AMPMASTER10]

@enclavesoldier6320 I hardly call two different artic expeditions a major population center, and Blair thing was already making a ship.

[@gamegosee6488]

One of the developers for the game said that the average life expectancy for a helldiver in the field is 2 minutes. Thay can use guns yes but thay are Cannon father.

[@roanwanek2673]

12:30 we've seen facehuggers melt through masks before, they do it in the first movie

[@Devast8or2000]

Pacific Rims Kaijus are mass-produced weapons which was Stated in the Movie XS

[@enfisu586]

The thing intrinsically knows how to build spaceships out of scrap parts it was doing that in the movie. It could keave a world in a matter of days.

[@rougarabid]

False. The original Thing film estimates it would take The Thing 3 years to fully assimilate Earth and this was an Earth with tech from the 1980’s not 2200’s like Helldivers.

[@enfisu586]

@@rougarabid Typo. I meant to say "leave" a world. It nearly builds a flying saucer out of primitive 1980s human tech lying around on an arctic base, almost finishing it within the movie's timeframe. That is to say, it's probably very capable of moving to other planets on its own.

[@Ashen_Night116]

@@enfisu586 Like he said, it would take it 3 years to take over Earth, the moment anyone uninfected catches a sincere fucking whiff that some bullshit is afoot, especially considering a biological signature like that, and if they figure out how it works, hello Meridian!

[@speeddemon7678]

Something I want to correct. Super Earth has not been fighting aliens for hundred of years. As far as I am aware, Super Earth has fought in only two galactic wars, the first being the war against the cyborgs (there is strong evidence the Automatons were created by the cyborgs), The Bugs (now called the Terminids), and the Illuminate. The war may start again and again after every time we win or lose in the first but that's not actually cannon. After Super Earth won the first war, there was 100 years of peace with Super Earth entering a 'Golden Age' with no major conflict against any other species. The second Galactic war started when the Automatons invaded on the west side of the galactic map and the Terminids broke out of containment on their Homeworld and have begun to spread once again. Super Earth hasn't been fighting aliens for hundred of years but that doesn't mean they aren't ready.

[@musicguy9724]

Terminids don’t have a home world. They are farmed on multiple planets and are often sent to planets to be harvested for oil

[@Ashen_Night116]

Yes, Super Earth fought the First Galactic War for 30-40 years. Also incorrect, Automatons did not exist before the Cyborgs did, if they did, we wouldn't be fighting Automatons in HD2. What did happen more than likely is that there were Cyborgs that fled outside the system and modified themselves to only require a brain to operate their bodies. Terminids don't have a homeworld, they only broke out of containment on planets and rapidly bred for the express purpose of making E-710, which accelerated their aggression with the rapid breeding.

[@tieflingcody7493]

*Xenomorph"s showup* Helldivers: light work

[@weaponsgradeham5962]

I feel like the automatons would weaponize the Zenomorphs in someway, like intentionally catching and feeding them civilians or lesser native creatures that they have no need for, in other words, they would probably use them like the combine from half-life use headcrab zombies

[@Lookalikealagaler]

Alright, three things; 1) The Thing doesn't randomly attack people unless it's cover is blown or it can get someone alone. 2) The Thing becomes a perfect copy. Yes, it is a totally different organizem, but the cells will stay incognito baring very specific situations. 3) It's not a hive mind. Cells can only communicate while physically connected. That's why the blood test works at all.

[@rougarabid]

1) It reveals itself at the start of the film be turning into a mutant dog creature for basically no reason. 2) This is worded weirdly. Sounds like you started defending 1 point but then just repeated your first point again. 3) That doesn’t make sense. The blood test is done separate from the host so bringing it up doesn’t prove your claim. Not saying you’re wrong but your argument doesn’t prove it.

[@Lookalikealagaler]

@@rougarabid 1) In a secluded location, around animals that's cannot communicate it's secret. If clarke hadn't shown up when he did, The Thing might have been able to assimilate all the dogs and been back in disguise without anyone ever finding out. 2) The Thing becomes a perfect copy, so if the bugs make the oil blood, or if the oil blood has oil blood cells, then a bug Thing makes the oil blood. 3) In my mind, a hive mind means psychic communication, and the blood test shows that smaller Thing colonies can't be controlled by larger, and smarter Thing colonies. A Thing colony's intelligence is directly related to it's mass. A blood sample sized Thing is about as smart as a lizard.

[@bigdiddyzp1762]

​@Lookalikealagaler the thing kind of does have a hivemind, just in the way that the thing has to infect by assimilation so new things will know what's going on automatically. But the cells will still instinctively react to pain despite instructions. The blood test works because it can't stop the blood from reacting.

[@Labyrinthian-]

Unless John Helldiver or General Brasch manages to kill a blue mimic, the Helldivers are screwed

[@NoLand5624]

The way the helldivers made the planet a black hole is the helldivers would land and inject dark matter into the planet until it collapsed into a black hole so they have to be on the planet

[@Gaelic-Spirit]

There are hundreds of dead helldiver body bags in and around the training course, which wouldn't be the case if Super Earth valued Helldiver recruits. However, other than that all evidence shows that helldivers are special soldiers

[@MW-Gigaton]

As far as john carpenters the thing goes i disagree on 2 things ( no pun intended) 1. The whole thing about fire, yes we see in the movie that its the best way to handle it is with fire but there was a scene where talked about in the helicopter that the burnt remains of the split face- thing from the Norwegian camp still having cellular activity , so atleast for me it makes me wonder whats the full limits of Resilience 2. The things is most DEFINITELY STRONG, though it wasn't metal ,palmer-thing went straight through a wall while on fire and then also the Blair-thing towards the very end of the movie (though it was off camera) physically removed the entire generator that was powering the camp to cause a black out kzbin.info/www/bejne/bZvVe4F7d56joLcsi=wQTwvlpcBiJcUIi- ☝🏿 proof backing up my last statement. Lastly lets keep in mind we saw the blood of a assimilated crew member scarry off during the blood test scene, so even tho we haven't seen it its not far fetched that the thing could spray its blood or any fluids like the dog-thing did in the kennels, getting through armor making contact with skin , all it takes is one cell ( all feed back is welcomed, lets talk about it)

[@TomatoArcher]

You forget all the regular SEAF soldiers that would be fighting mimics. It only takes one, wearing regular SEAF armor, to get splashed with alpha blood, and they are finished, or at least on their way to being finished. Imagine the dozens of soldiers being splashed on the same day. Now, imagine those soldiers finding a way of meeting up with each other through infinite failed attempts. Super Earth would eventually have at least a squad of elite trained soldiers with all the resources and knowledge to absolutely demolish the mimics. They would not stand a chance. Due to constant fighting as well, this situation would happen various times throughout the war. You would have opportunity days where enough soldiers were splashed with alpha blood on the same day, and a major blow could be dealt with the extra knowledge and ability for trial and error.

[@scardinoman4258]

Yk facehuggers can break through helmets right- like they do it in alien and those helmets are 5 layers thick, also predator masks get broken by facehuggers too, also the acid of xenos is more potent than the terminds acid, simply because xeno blood can melt through multiple layers of hull, even melt predator tech with ease, which means that xeno acid is stronger than some of the most durable metals in fiction, as predator blades are capable of not shattering when using against people like wolverine and black panther

[@rougarabid]

I explain this in the video.

[@thrawn1stgaming]

I think light armor will be burned through by xenomorph and mimic blood, so they would probably end up with the time powers eventually

[@Abb0able]

I don't agree with the assumption that Super Earth uses 710 fuel for everything, i think it's main use is FTL travel.

[@Gunthersby]

There's a large chance that each of these invaders would end up being weaponized by whatever faction planet they land on

[@TysALT]

Wait… you know the breach is a portal right? They are not INSIDE the earth. 25:12

[@anhduc9675]

Yh am pretty sure he is purposefully getting it wrong for engage

[@TysALT]

@ I saw he did a correction video after this comment

[@Zekual513]

You should make a video where you have a bunch of rougelike characters try to escape Hades

[@Rebel3000]

I would LOVE to see a Disgaea character in one of these, its a super fun series that just oozes charm and hyper-powerful attacks

[@qkomodo9098]

Or see if various RPG characters would survive the Disgaea universe

[@Rebel3000]

@@qkomodo9098 that would be a hell of a challenge

[@Therealwalterwhitetrust]

2:53 I’ve been saying this for a while but we NEED a Stratham that has a ship with like 10-15 little foot solders walk out so they can act like extra firepower and also distract the enemy’s while you advance or retreat

[@Akrilloth]

This is being prototyped in the files, whether they actually finish it or not is yet to see, but the concept is, or has been tested.

[@coldfire-blitz3122]

SEAF Shock Squad would actually be dope, especially if you could choose your reinforcements loadouts and give them commands once they drop. Imagine you could tell them to hop in a mech or scout Strider or make them pick up extra support weapons you call in. I imagine the potential weapons they could use would be limited to the base Liberator, Punisher, Diligence, Breaker, Scythe, and Defender, but you could use samples or requisition slips to give them better gear that you have unlocked (withdrawn each time you use the stratagem). That would also give mid level players with max Slips and top level players with max samples something to use them on.

[@sbirmingham1989]

the kaiju come through a portal at the bottom of the ocean it is explicitly in the 1st minute of the move

[@GreaterGrievobeast55]

28:35 ok so the Kaiju themselves don't do the Traveling, it's their alien creators the precursors that created the portal in the ocean the Kaiju emerge from. Theoretically I guess they"d be able to make a portal onto any planet in a dimension they'd like, at least in this scenario. I guess the bigger question though is if the Precursors would care to take over other planets once they have one, they may not have the resources or motivation for Galactic conquest. That being said any particular planet they want should be a cake walk to get with how durable even the less powerful Kaiju are, and How precursors with generically modify the next set Kaiju to counter the planets defenses as they learn more of their weaknesses. Of course they have no true counter to the planet getting destroyed, BUT since the kaiju portals onto open for small periods of time in secluded places, and only allow things with kaiju dna to pass through, it means the Precusors in their own dimension will always be safe to make more kaiju on a different world. Given the pacific rim humans only learned how to use the portal with drift technology the Super earths government might never figure out how to exploit that weakness

[@shoulderpyro]

Kaijus: Maybe Xenos: Yes The Thing: Absolutely not

[@danphilips7785]

12:23 Face huggers can in fact go through helmets, it happened in the first movie.

[@rougarabid]

I explain this in the video. They can’t get through THESE helmets due to them being resistant to caustic attacks.

[@danphilips7785]

@@rougarabid righ

[@ekkovaan2261]

​@@rougarabidI would argue youre underestimating xenomorph blood acidity. Sure, bile is acidic, but its not extremely acidic. I think the very fact a helldiver, even in just medium armour where a lot of area seems covered by simple fabric, can survive being covered in bile implies that it does not eat through human flesh or metal for that matter the same way xenomorph acid does. Xenomorph acid, even relatively small quantities, are shown eating through quite a bit. Maybe the armour protecting from caustic attacks would overcome xeno acid, I belive its 100% resistant? But normal armour? Id argue xeno blood goes through standard armour. On the other hand though? As soon as super earth discovers this (soon)? All warcrime enthusiasts would be sent to the xeno front and their equipment along with.

[@arguemeu7891]

In the Xenomorph universe, facehuggers have an acid to melt any sort of mask/helmet when they hug a host. 12:22

[@arguemeu7891]

but yeah, Helldivers would have prepared mask and armor to overcome they acid, xenomorph only have a small chance of victory if helldivers attack an big hive, where we have super strong types of xenoid, and a queen comanding in they hive mind

[@the_king_of_kings_3413]

Kaiju aren’t bred, they are cloned. Have you never seen the movie?!? The precursers clone them and send them through a rift at the bottom of the Pacific Ocean to invade and blow up a volcano in order to finish terraforming the planet. The planet wasn’t fully polluted yet so the Kaiju were sent to finish the job early so the precursers could move in.

[@rougarabid]

There’s literally a pregnant Kaiju in the film. Have YOU seen the movie?

[@the_king_of_kings_3413]

@@rougarabid oh yeah, forgot about that… Waitaminute how does that make sense? They are all clones, and the clones can have kids?!? Ok, I understand why I missed that, that kinda just makes no sense, also whose the f**king dad in that case lol? Monkey boi!?!?

[@Tacsped_Warrior1]

@@rougarabid yeah but what you said about the kaijus look much more stupid, because in the video it really looks like you didn't pay attention during the movie, but you might have just forgotten about the whole "rift" thing, and that they don't hibernate in the ground for millions of years, that they are made by an advanced alien race, that they could clone a lot of them and send them to probably anywhere (but the pacific rim universe is kinda unfinished so honestly idk), and I think the kaiju don't need polluted atmosphere only their creators do and probably super earth won't be able to figure out how to get through the rift in time, since I don't think they have drift technology

[@Tacsped_Warrior1]

never mind I just saw thet you made another video adressing the comments, I'm sorry

[@MurathanSaipKays]

I doubt xeonomorphs would be able to defeat main super earth army even without helldiver support

[@jblack3830]

I think the mimics would take so long to win that a helldiver will inevitably get the time power.

[@thepuertoricansoldie]

Good point... it's a low chance, but it is a chance

[@OrRaino]

Or Helldivers could just fucking blow up the whole planets of mimic, like we know they don't have any means of space travel

[@alisersahin6261]

Bro literally the title of the video should have been can these alien species survive the helldiver invasion. Even insects as big as hills or robots programmed to kill or blue aliens whose technology seems like magic, will after a while seem like innocent people fighting for their freedom in the face of helldivers, because we are the worst.😅

[@dwaynechapman812]

Nice video Ethan

[@cringelord9722]

One thing i think people dont realize, super destoryers have at minimum 25 helldivers(because of reinforcements and stuff) plus, there are often times 50,000 of them over target planets, so youve got over a million of these guys with an amazing support network. Outside of like 40k, idk if any other universes can deal with these guys.

[@mateusmessias360]

If you know anything about the World of Darkness setting that could be a cool setting for a survival challenge. I'm thinking could either vampires or monster hunters survive the World of Darkness?

[@woopwoop-pc5dk]

Alright. I'm subbing. Thought out takes + interesting premise

[@Idothedance]

The Thing gains all of its host's memories and is super intelligent, so i feel like it could definitely use a spaceship to travel off world and dominate the universe.

[@Gab12345BR]

but from where it would gain the knowledge to build a spaceship?

[@Idothedance]

@@Gab12345BR people lol and it doesnt have to build one it can just steal one like the pelican that all helldivers use to extract from missions back to the destroyers

[@tchoythao1730]

Pretty sure the creators said that the thing needs to make contact with a good portion of its body to assimilate. A few cells ain’t gonna assimilate someone.

[@Idothedance]

@@tchoythao1730 If we assume that than parts of this video are also invalid considering the video also believes the thing only needs a single cell.

[@Ashen_Night116]

@@Idothedance Yes, and therefore, it would not work in this case, and would not survive in Helldivers.

[@zack16saturday]

I am so pleased you talked about the training. I got so annoyed people claimed that the like tutorial was the training. I saw that at age 10 they start learning stuff for this. Basically like a military class, reminds me of clone troopers before they're adults. I really liked all of what you've been saying haha

[@majidmoro3866]

"Time bullshit is fucking bullshit" Wish words were said today

[@kyrdaeos]

for pacific rim, the precursors can make rifts and they clone the kaijus on place like a toy factoryand make a pocket dimension so blowing up the earth wouldn't work but, kaijus are shown to be made of really usefull materials so super-earth would probably make them a new power-source for super-earth

[@ShibeDogetic]

idea: who would survive half life 2's 7 hour war/combine invasion/rebellion or something along those lines

[@H3brewHero]

Also the Lady on the ship says one strategem costs more than a year salary for a super citizen, they wouldn't let just anyone use those. Also appearently a helldiver life expectancy is 2 minutes, I wonder what a conscript would be. Assuming that's what the generic super earth soldier is, a conscript.

[@ЯрОк-и2й]

Space marine 2 video petition.

[@Quincy_Morris]

My guess with the tutorial is it’s a sort of graduation. You face life fire tests, have to actually kill some real terminids that could kill you, have to treat actual injuries to yourself etc. It’s a graduation/final test. Not the only training. Clearly your Helldiver has extensive training because he or she knows how to use a ton of guns and vehicles.

[@Invirulent]

Three suggestions for more invading species: Yeerks (Animorphs) The Flood (Halo) Cyber Men (Doctor Who)

[@hamarticdownfall9919]

Cyber men is basically the cyborgs from the first game, other two are interesting tho

[@sebastianbronowicki7073]

​@@hamarticdownfall9919 and we both know the cyborgs were defeated in the first game.

[@hamarticdownfall9919]

@sebastianbronowicki7073 exactly, no remnants of them exist anymore-- the automatons are wholey new threats with no connection

[@Dragonstorm1234]

​@@hamarticdownfall9919Cybermen are a threat to the Doctor who solos Helldivers, an army of them beats the Helldivers and Daleks....oh boy

[@Gab12345BR]

​@@hamarticdownfall9919 so why did they go straight to the cyborg's home?

[@orcplaygames8532]

They're not trained, they just grew up in Space America on steroids. 😂

[@drunkskunk8007]

One discussion I love is how doom slayer in 40k would do

[@dovaxun]

He'd cleave through everything on the planet until super earth just nukes him

[@ElVigidra]

Lore doom slayer has a very complex power it would be difficult to scale him to other verses

[@BeastNugget44Main]

There is literally nothing that anyone or anything in almost any universe can do to even hurt doom slayer

[@assaraan9407]

i completly agree its fair to asume the hell divrrs have much more in depth training than the tutorial alone

[@worldeater5278]

A guardsman from Death Korps of Krieg: We've just suffered tens of millions of casualties. A average helldiver: Holy democracy, that's a great loss. How about yesterday?

[@liamknight2792]

Bro the cannon life expectancy for a helldiver is 3 minutes after being deployed.

[@rougarabid]

2 actually.

[@shadowstrike1803]

Idk what else you’d expect considering they get dropped literally into an enemy planet. And also considering they send a squad of 4 dudes to take on thousands. (Around 20 if you die too much) but a 20 for like 1000 trade is pretty damn good trade.

[@Psub950]

Would the White Spikes from Tomorrow war survive Helldivers?

[@rougarabid]

They’re on the list.

[@Tuxlion]

Another point to the helldivers being trained is the team assisted weapons, if you were to put someone in that position without training, there'd be problems reloading, communicating, misfiring, and whole load of other problems. It requires both the shooter and the loader to be in sync and know which word mean what and when the gun is ready to be reloaded and when it is ready to be fired.

[@t5hammer871]

Would the Helldivers survive a covenant invasion (including termanids, super earth, and the automatons)

[@DragonChief157]

Probably no, or even hard no. For one, the navy cruiser of super earth is never shown or alluded to having ship to ship combat and they get regularly blown up by planetary defenses. Plus, they look smaller and weaker compared to even the prowler of UNSC which is a stealth ship to support space battle and not good at direct engagement. 2, even if they do, many people keep forgetting this, UNSC, were losing, and almost lost, and humanity almost going extinct alongside it, and the covenant full might of their forces aren't even taking the war seriously until the first halo blew up. In halo, human didn't win the war, they just survived long enough to have master chief plot point of pissing of the major factions between the covenant and indirectly causes a civil war by blowing up the first halo which happened basically 5 decades into a war of survival where human were constantly hiding and preventing their ships from being boarded because they don't want the covenant to know the location of other major human settlements and most importantly earth. Finally, hell divers are going to lose badly in an engagement against covenant ground troops. One, their support of their destroyer is not guaranteed, because covenant always have orbital superiority, because their ships are just better. Two, even if the destroyers are supporting the troops on the ground, they can't deal with elites, or brutes. Those troops are really fking fast, they are always stated to be just as fast as Spartans and even stronger than them. Elites have their shield, and brutes are just going to ignore most of small arms through sheer monke power.

[@bigdiddyzp1762]

​@@DragonChief157to add on, im not sure exactly how it works but I'm pretty sure every covenant troop will avoid or react to the giant fucking beacon that is either a red warning or a blue "I dont have a support weapon yet" sign

[@supremecaffeine2633]

​@@DragonChief157 The Helldiver Super Destroyer is smaller and less armored, but it is nowhere near as under-armed as you make it seem. The real problem with fighting them is the fact that there's at least a few hundred thousand, all with the capability to travel from one end of the galaxy to the other in seconds. What many people forget is that unlike the UNSC, Super Earth is not hurting for resources and they have blatantly superior logistics. While the Spartan Laser was prohibitively expensive to produce, Super Earth has been able to mass produce all their energy weapons and ship them to the front. Even experimental ones. Helldivers have already fought and defeated the technologically superior and psionic Illuminate. They possessed personal shields that ranged from weaker to stronger that those worn in Halo. The average Helldiver would almost always have enough firepower to defeat an Elite or a Brute unless they completely neglected to bring AT weaponry.

[@supremecaffeine2633]

​@@bigdiddyzp1762 Easier said than done. The radius on a good number of those call in is not exactly forgiving.

[@DragonChief157]

@@supremecaffeine2633 not for elites and brutes, yes those grunts are going to die but even jackal have enough reaction time to get out of the way, the elites and brutes are canonically same speed as Spartans or even faster, which let me remind you, can go from 0 to 45 mile/hr in an instant. If me as helldiver in the game can throw a orbital or 500 kg strike right at my feet and still have time to run away far enough to avoid the damage, no questions the elite covie troops can't do the same.

[@TristianRuiz-monkey2717]

Helldivers are not trained, that's just how badass every super earth citizen just is out the gate

[@Alexander-ot5uo]

The covenant vs helldivers would be pretty cool

[@dragoon1129]

The thing with Mimics I think people don’t get is that when time resets, we don’t know that it happened. Everything that happened that day is repeated until the mimics win, it’s like fighting a battle but the enemy knows every move you make because every move you make is set in stone. The time reset can’t be controlled by a Helldiver, it’s not that simple. Yes when you die time resets but you’re not lucky, you don’t know how to get to the omega or how to find it, there’s nobody that it happened to before to help you. And once the day resets, the Omega knows that there’s someone else in the loop. On top of this, they could just slam themselves into a far planet of the super earth controlled space and while they’re fighting their mortal enemies. The mimics just spread and grow, fighting four enemy groups at once on four fronts is not easy especially when one is completely unknown and has time-fuck powers that you don’t ever know about

[@hipbreakingaming4432]

I think the thing could 100% win, it would take literally one instance of undetected infection for them to board a destroyer and have the know how to utilize it it's weapons

[@rougarabid]

So? Super Earth has literally trillions of destroyers.