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@JoyBoyTheories
@JoyBoyTheories Ай бұрын
Realized I forgot to mention how Oda brought the "D" full circle in the chapter. Clover was searching for the meaning of D. and why his brother was erased, while at the end the world collectively realizes that the "D" has been erased from Rogers name. The world has been put on to the mystery that began Clovers adventure for truth
@ProjectileGrommet
@ProjectileGrommet Ай бұрын
My D goes full circle, and leans left a bit
@hilljack7159
@hilljack7159 Ай бұрын
One Piexe is the Striesand effect
@elbanditokaribou3799
@elbanditokaribou3799 Ай бұрын
One piece is the name of the ancient kingdom. Gol D Roger last word is a wordplay but with name of the place he left it at and the biggest F. u. to the gorosei ever. Clover was killed before he said the name because of this (evryone would connect the dots immediatly , roger was executed 24 years ago , ohara is 22.). One piece has always been used like a Name , being the name of the manga , but even if japonese , One piece is written in english (check any cover), because its a name and not only the one of the manga. Till proven wrong. x)
@justinsertaname5420
@justinsertaname5420 Ай бұрын
The sun and the moon are two sides to the same coin, Black beard is luffy’s other half.
@yu-cg5dx
@yu-cg5dx Ай бұрын
Where do you find the chapters when they drop so fast? I'm on Shonen Jump, and Chapter 1120 drops in 20hrs for me.
@MrEthan124
@MrEthan124 Ай бұрын
I know most people were ready for the atlas sacrifice, but maaaaaaan I had a smile on my face for her panels, she went out with a smile on her face saying nah I’m not important, but they will be! That was pretty dope and I couldn’t stop smiling and laughing this chapter man goda still out here ✏️
@smokey2425
@smokey2425 Ай бұрын
I cried I named my cat after atlas lmao
@SrMissileMonkey
@SrMissileMonkey Ай бұрын
I smiled, but I cried too. "I'm not important, but they are" sacrifices always hit the hardest.
@yeeyeemcgee5239
@yeeyeemcgee5239 Ай бұрын
If Robo boyyo explodes himself then that will parallel Ohara more with technology (Buster Call) destroying the ‘history island’ and then ancient technology (Emeth) destroying the “future island.” The only difference is one was to keep history hidden and the other is to reveal it
@gogofilo8787
@gogofilo8787 Ай бұрын
Amazing comparison
@atyl_
@atyl_ Ай бұрын
the way you connect ideas and highlight parallels is always incredible!
@triggerticker
@triggerticker Ай бұрын
I think people are forgetting about Stussy. She has the potential to become a new Straw Hat crew member. Hear me out: after Stella died, Stussy said she had no purpose in life anymore, yet she didn't commit suicide or put herself in fatal danger. This indicates that, deep down, she still has the will to live. If she had truly given up, she wouldn't have asked Kaku to let her back on the team. However, even if Kaku wanted her back, we all know Lucci would immediately deal with her. Additionally, the World Government will hunt her down since she betrayed them. Given that she still has a will to live and will likely be pursued by the government, the question remains: how can she escape the impending Buster Call, the Gorosei, and Lucci? She has three options: 1. Leave the island using government ships 2. Sail on with the giants 3. Leave with the Straw Hats Out of these three options, only one makes sense: traveling with the Straw Hats. Since Luffy is now a Yonko, the government is cautious about launching direct attacks on him, knowing the consequences could be massive. This is why they instructed CP0 not to touch Luffy. Therefore, joining the Straw Hats would be the best way for Stussy to stay alive and survive under the current circumstances. I can envision her appearing at some point after they've set sail and no Marines are in sight, similar to how Robin joined the crew post-Alabasta. Robin also felt she had no purpose in life and believed she might find it by joining the Straw Hats.
@perpetualpunster
@perpetualpunster Ай бұрын
Vegapunk is/was an amazing character. After the manga is concluded, I suspect you're going to busy with character retrospective videos. In this chapter York is giving me Grishenko from "GoldenEye" movie vibes. At the end of Egghead, Saturn could turn to York and plainly state that there only needs to be one Vegapunk in the world. As a Strawhat member, Lilith would metaphorically clash with Franky's purpose of being on the crew. I can see Bonney staying on the Sunny as a "cabin girl" or similar, but Lilith would be a better fit with the Revolutionary Army as a modern Genny, and Dragon has asked Vegapunk to join them before.
@SrMissileMonkey
@SrMissileMonkey Ай бұрын
Atlas truly lent the SH a hand at the end.
@MrEcchiOtaku
@MrEcchiOtaku Ай бұрын
The Rosetta Stone was in the Background in Ohara. Metioned in Daks Sake last Theroy. Maybe worth looking into!
@wangbot47
@wangbot47 Ай бұрын
He did an omage to Goku teleporting Cell away with Atlas's death, which also worked because that is a really good way to do an emotional death
@shinyknighttt
@shinyknighttt Ай бұрын
Seems more like a homage to chiaotzu and nappa than goku and cell.
@dannybob42
@dannybob42 Ай бұрын
We pour one out for Atlas' inevitable sacrifice, an act of compassion in violence to save Lilith as well. Also pour one for Emeth because with no weapons to use it's not gonna last much longer, interesting that like Zunesha though it communicates via the Voice of All Things, were all of Joy Boy's crew like that? Now that Luffy knows the name will he ask about it, Robin knows that name after all. I wonder if Lilith4Nakama will happen, she is certainly the most pirate of the Vegapunks, her calculations did seem more obstructive to the crew though when they wanted to set off. I see it as more likely than Bonney, but I also don't think Lilith would stick around on the ship, she likes inventing too much and we already have Franky and Usopp for that, don't want to diminish crewmembers when you add after all. I feel like Grand Fleet is more likely, rebuilding the lab on Elbaf maybe. Clover being a D was not something I expected though, but it makes so much sense, plus the Irish name because clovers XD Claíomh means Sword in Irish btw. It's also tragic though, because he wanted to investigate the D to understand why his brother was killed for having a name, and that he would uncover history to be unignorable, and he did uncover history to be unignorable, and died uttering a name. It's also interesting that they showed Tequila Wolf again, what is its secrets? What is Oda hiding from us? Saturn is now on the longboat too, V. Nusjuro is still on the labophase so he's probably out of range to support, Atlas' explosion getting the Sunny to safety. So I like how cyclic we are with the Gorosei; Saturn was the first opponent and now he's the last, just who is gonna knock him away? Could be Sanji, he is due a moment not undercut by failure, could be Kuma since his powers are perfect for knockback, I am leaning to Kuma still, Saturn took everything from him, he stood his ground against Saturn as a child unable to make a difference but this time he can. but the ending caught me by surprise because initially I glossed over that he said Gol D. Roger, we're so used to it but the world is not, only select few knew that his name was changed, and now everyone knows that the D is important - they just lost the explanation as to why.
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 Ай бұрын
I believe that Laffite when he was a policeman killed Clovers brother and kept the research for himself and this was why Blackbeard got him to join his crew
@TheUnkow
@TheUnkow Ай бұрын
This would fit perfectly.
@cavejohnson9071
@cavejohnson9071 Ай бұрын
This last chapter has me the most convinced of Lilith becoming a straw hat. I feel like Bonney will probably be more of a Momo/Vivi type character, where she travels with them and becomes a close friend and ally, but still does her own thing and doesn't officially join
@mokaljordan
@mokaljordan Ай бұрын
Yea bonney has to inheirit kuma's will first b4 im confident that she joins as a strawhat, she may be the travelling royalty onboard the sunny/make an alliance with the strawhats type of character unless kuma dies or kuma tells bonney personally to join the strawhats b4 he returns to the revs/stays on elbaf
@michaeldufour6187
@michaeldufour6187 Ай бұрын
The denden mushi in the robot got knocked around inside when the boar ran into it and got knocked out, it just woke back up and continued the message
@Nay-NayCh.
@Nay-NayCh. Ай бұрын
Gol d koby is priceless
@eshwar34
@eshwar34 Ай бұрын
Thumbs up to the artist 👍 Great work as always.
@dfile7598
@dfile7598 Ай бұрын
When Vegapunk mentioned Roger again, I wonder if he would explain to everyone about why he & his crew did what they did. To be more specific, he would bring up the "We were too early" excuse in his message.
@sumireokamura
@sumireokamura Ай бұрын
I guess, they didn't know about Roger being sick, and didn't have time to wait 20 years for Joy Boy appears.
@triggerticker
@triggerticker Ай бұрын
I think people are forgetting about Stussy. She has the potential to become a new Straw Hat crew member. Hear me out: after Stella died, Stussy said she had no purpose in life anymore, yet she didn't commit suicide or put herself in fatal danger. This indicates that, deep down, she still has the will to live. If she had truly given up, she wouldn't have asked Kaku to let her back on the team. However, even if Kaku wanted her back, we all know Lucci would immediately deal with her. Additionally, the World Government will hunt her down since she betrayed them. Given that she still has a will to live and will likely be pursued by the government, the question remains: how can she escape the impending Buster Call, the Gorosei, and Lucci? She has three options: 1. Leave the island using government ships 2. Sail on with the giants 3. Leave with the Straw Hats Out of these three options, only one makes sense: traveling with the Straw Hats. Since Luffy is now a Yonko, the government is cautious about launching direct attacks on him, knowing the consequences could be massive. This is why they instructed CP0 not to touch Luffy. Therefore, joining the Straw Hats would be the best way for Stussy to stay alive and survive under the current circumstances. I can envision Stussy randomly appearing on the Sunny at some point after they've set sail, with no Marines in sight, similar to how Robin joined the crew post-Alabasta. Robin also felt she had no purpose in life and believed she might find it by joining the Straw Hats. Stussy's line could even be, "You failed to protect Stella, so now I'm your responsibility, it's your fault."
@jers192
@jers192 Ай бұрын
Like the books of ohara we need to fish out all the knowledge from the water and for the One Piece we need to drain the sea to uncover it.
@justicecadet5530
@justicecadet5530 Ай бұрын
18:30 i also group this in with lines like Pekoms saying that all he can hear when he’s in Sulong form is Pedro’s voice.
@bte-aka-busterb
@bte-aka-busterb Ай бұрын
The part about the voice of the victor vs the vanquished, reminded me a lot of the conflict between the Gauls and the Romans, when Brennus throws his sword on the scale and says "vae victis" (woe to the vanquished)! Slightly different context, but the usage of vanquished in this way, and tipping the scale in favor of the victor reminded me of this.
@BAKAGAlJIN
@BAKAGAlJIN Ай бұрын
Pirates are thought by most of the One Piece world as "evil". It was there all along that the "evil" Vegapunk wasn't actually evil and was the most pirate like. I also connected that immediately upon reading her epithet.
@caesarjergens
@caesarjergens Ай бұрын
I felt sad for Atlas sacrificing herself but the way she did it, even saying to Saint Ethanbaron it is not about going out with a grandiose sacrifice. That was such a power move. And I know York is Greed but god darnit I really despise her now.
@wana.me003
@wana.me003 Ай бұрын
Atlas dying with a smile is oddly a 'D' thing to do🤔
@BlackShadow-nm5bw
@BlackShadow-nm5bw Ай бұрын
Clover had will of D and after he's gone Vegapunk took over his research and Atlas is a Vegapunk so she took over his in a sense
@sevizeroable
@sevizeroable Ай бұрын
BIG D energy.
@monkeydgarp9663
@monkeydgarp9663 Ай бұрын
I teared up a little bit when Atlas made her final stand
@Mlom91
@Mlom91 Ай бұрын
I have always thought that the Poneglyphs reminds me of the Edison cylinders, just.. cubic. xD
@Hamilto3
@Hamilto3 Ай бұрын
3:19 "nika turns the robot on"
@akosesthoth3707
@akosesthoth3707 Ай бұрын
Something not mentioned, Lilith and York might be the only Vegapunk’s that weren’t robots. They might be clones or artificial daughters of Vegapunk and someone else.
@Justin-oq3ng
@Justin-oq3ng Ай бұрын
i think shaka had skin aswell.. so might have been a human with a helmet. luffy even called him "helmet"
@benerwel
@benerwel Ай бұрын
Your observations as sharp as always🙏
@juanyewest3982
@juanyewest3982 Ай бұрын
Luffy being so insistent on not being joyboy is starting to make me think there might be something
@Justin-oq3ng
@Justin-oq3ng Ай бұрын
nah he just doesnt know and dont care 😂 i mean, no1 told him and he still thinks its just a gomu fruit. with awakening he only found out its more like a being free-fruit
@muddysilvers
@muddysilvers Ай бұрын
He isn't joyboy he is Luffy. The two share ties to sun god Nika but we wouldn't consider a gum gum fruit user the reincarnation of Luffy just because they ate the gum gum fruit. I believe Luffy and Joy boy both share the same will and dream of sun god Nika and so after Nika it was Joy boy who was the continuation of Nikas dream and now Luffy is the continuation of Joy boys dream because dreams never die in one piece. Luffy is his own man and he only wanted to be the pirate king because it's the freeist person on the sea and gear 5 Luffy is Luffy at his most free yet Luffy in gear 5 mode looks exactly like sun god Nika and we assume joyboy and remember Luffy has a dream to complete after he becomes king of the pirates that made the straw hat crew smile and laugh at how ridiculous it is. That could be the same dream that links Luffy, Joy boy and sun god Nika
@sineaterdred1
@sineaterdred1 Ай бұрын
I don't only want Lilith to join the Straw Hat's fleet (not necessarily the crew), but I want her to get the paw-paw fruit if Kuma passes. And Bonnie has to join the crew.
@ryanfoster2869
@ryanfoster2869 Ай бұрын
I don't think she can. She's still Vegapunk which means she still has his fruit.
@sineaterdred1
@sineaterdred1 Ай бұрын
@@ryanfoster2869 Are we sure about that? I thought only the Stella was the fruit holder. If so, oh well. Then Bepo should get it. A bear with the paw-paw fruit is perfect.
@EmilyWu1988
@EmilyWu1988 Ай бұрын
I think the will of D is the will of defiance and makes D clan members resistant to others COC. I also think Joyboy flooded the world on purpose to protect the ancient kingdom from Imu and the Gorosei and imbued his weapon with Haki then stabbed it into the seabed to weaken DF users with his eternal COC
@alexzamora514
@alexzamora514 Ай бұрын
My guy I Love the perspective takes you give to the story. It’s like you shed light on my brain.
@RandoManOnInternet
@RandoManOnInternet Ай бұрын
When you really think about it - Kuma was never defeated in battle. Not that we know off. How would someone defeat him, ever?
@wompus_king
@wompus_king Ай бұрын
He could be defeated through contract negotiations.
@looeythechewy
@looeythechewy Ай бұрын
I dont think the robot being on has anything to do w the message streaming. idk where you got that. Luffy has gone on and off G5 and the message has stayed on. It only got interrupted because the snail inside the armor got shaken up. The robot is just an impenetrable hiding place in a trash heap. The fact that joyboy2 happened to stumble on the island is just Fate.
@mattt3555
@mattt3555 Ай бұрын
You're wrong about one thing: Blackbeard is not having the potential to be Joyboy. When Imu was looking at wanted posters, he/she looked at Luffy, Blackbeard, Shirahoshi, and Vivi. We know that 3 of those are reincarnations of people from 800 years ago (Joyboy, Poseidon, and LiLi). That means more than likely Blackbeard is the reincarnation of someone from 800 years ago, and probably the person that betrayed Joyboy & the D clan. My guess is inherited will goes like this: Joyboy --> --> --> Roger --> Luffy, and then ????? --> --> --> Xebec --> Blackbeard. Eventually we will learn who Blackbeard inherited his will from 800 years ago.
@BRINKS400
@BRINKS400 Ай бұрын
I'm late but I'm just happy u felt some emotion for Atlas!! She was really sweet and i loved her interactions with Luffy!
@Justin-oq3ng
@Justin-oq3ng Ай бұрын
if the voice is technology, how do the sea kings speak through it? do they have mechanical vocal cords or what 😅
@squallrulz20
@squallrulz20 Ай бұрын
For the same reason humans can't hear certain special dog whistles. Clearly all of the d clan members are like the land version of fishman and are all crossbred with dogs and that is why they are all so loyal and hype. Heck garp even wore his dog hat at the start.
@aster4jaden
@aster4jaden Ай бұрын
That brief flashback of Clover's background makes sense now.
@UnexpectedWonder
@UnexpectedWonder Ай бұрын
That was cool to see that Denjiro is the Daimyo of Kibi. I really resonated with the History and Emotions associated with Clover. Another D. Clan Member. There might've been 20 vs. 20 @ this point. It was cool to see Zeff and them. Idk if that was Tequila Wolf, but the Slavery scene hit. I really felt Robin crying. Shout out to Atlas for going out like a Real one. I got slight Astro Boy Vibes. Even Sanji and Franky were stoked to see the Robot. Someone needs to start explaining some of this History to Luffy. I know he doesn't care about much of it, but this actually relates to him. Vegapunk is as sus as I knew from early in the Arc. Lilith is gonna accompany the Straw Hats. Shout out to the Straw Hats for just moving like a well oiled machine as a Yonko Crew should. Nami gives commands on the ship. Zoro acts as the Vice Captain as Rayleigh would. Jinbei and Brook were on point. The Emotions from Usopp and Chopper hit. Oda is putting emphasis on the Iron Giant. Vegapunk is only speculating. I figured that he didn't know much.
@Safecyn
@Safecyn Ай бұрын
Couldn't the Punk Records of the past actually just be the One Piece?
@travywavy9817
@travywavy9817 Ай бұрын
I do t think Roger would’ve known about puffy since he said himself his unborn son will become king of the pirates
@umamisalami
@umamisalami Ай бұрын
I read Vegapunk's warning to Clover differently. What you perceived as arrogance was (for me) clearly an attempt to protect his friend and save him from the consequences his planned actions would surely have. I perceived Vegapunk as a liar there who absolutely will do what he advised others not to do. Maybe arrogance comes into play here because he seemed to think he can do it without the WG noticing.
@user-ym4gp2wy8w
@user-ym4gp2wy8w Ай бұрын
Talking so much about the past makes me want to understand what the hell could have woken up the giant robot 200 years ago, just can't wrap my mind around it!
@rickn6923
@rickn6923 Ай бұрын
The Voice of all Things is really just a Broadcasting/ Receiving Object with the Spider Spider fruit Model: Interwebs
@akiotatsuki2621
@akiotatsuki2621 Ай бұрын
Maybe Zoro will finally ask Vegapunk his question soon
@ChampDGabe
@ChampDGabe Ай бұрын
I love the idea of connecting to the internet via the voice of all things lol. And the ancient kingdom couldve had a lot more people who were bioengineered to connect to these devices. Since Vegapunk had the idea to connect everyone to punk records it would probably involve using some type of device to connect to it like a den den mushi until they actually could probably bioengineer people. Now that I think of it maybe the Gorosei are bioengineered since they can communicate telepathically and maybe they can hear the voice of all things.
@curandero777
@curandero777 Ай бұрын
Lilith is the pirate version of VegApunk. She should join the crew.
@duser
@duser Ай бұрын
I really like your Lilith/Luffy parallel. Does that make York a parallel to Black beard?
@tra23296
@tra23296 Ай бұрын
Do you think the Blackbeard pirates are still on Egghead? It make perfect sense for York to join the Blackbeard pirates, and she control the Hancock Seraphim.
@wwbobbyww
@wwbobbyww Ай бұрын
Lilith being the “evil” punk makes me think she has lili’s will
@braydschannel2077
@braydschannel2077 Ай бұрын
Oda was going to spare Lilith because she was the sexy one, that was the only real clue anyone really needed.
@Kekkersboy
@Kekkersboy Ай бұрын
Hearing the voice of the past just means that he's feeling the weight of history
@sumireokamura
@sumireokamura Ай бұрын
I wonder if Garp became a Marine because he wanted to show that D can do good too, because a lot became pirates like Xebec and Roger, and making Luffy and Ace marines would make his vision of D doing something good.
@octavioshairtie
@octavioshairtie Ай бұрын
Seems to me like only people with the will of D can hear (or have the potential to hear) the Voice of all things? Monkey D Luffy, Gol D Roger, Clou D Clover.. I wonder how it was set up or what device it is, how it was used back in the void century maybe? Also with the way Clover and Rogers full names have the D. hidden, it's obvious the D clan after the Void cemtury had to be sneaky with having the D in their name.
@mokaljordan
@mokaljordan Ай бұрын
I wonder if its some kind of Joyboy force ghost that talked to the Roger Pirates cuz the Roger Pirates were all laughing like they could see Joyboy's message/story, not to mention that only Roger and Oden had the Voice of all things, maybe Roger and Oden told everyone else on their crew what they heard from the voices in the poneglyph but im leaning towards a Force Ghost hologram of Joyboy
@company543
@company543 Ай бұрын
joy boy dropped
@amysassenhagen5460
@amysassenhagen5460 Ай бұрын
When you’re talking about bioengineered humans, that’s the story of “Divergent”. It’s pretty much the same thing.
@carlhedaria3850
@carlhedaria3850 Ай бұрын
After this chapter I decided to rewatch One piece from the start and in Episode 8 during the buggy and shanks flashback Buggy finds a treasure map and says maps said the treasure was at the bottom of the ocean. That foreshadowing is crazy and made me think was that a map to one piece?
@Nay-NayCh.
@Nay-NayCh. Ай бұрын
Extremely insightful made me tgink of the future of op a lot
@Michael44413
@Michael44413 Ай бұрын
I think the gorosei ability to communicate with each other is much similar to how emeth and zunisha communicate with luffy & others (momo for example).
@wolf5732
@wolf5732 Ай бұрын
Lilith is on her way to the revolutionary army so they can finally get some things made to do stuff with
@alexpalex7641
@alexpalex7641 Ай бұрын
I see Lilith as the Vivi or Carrot of the final saga. Not actually a crew member but a companion that travels with them for a time. And like you said, a vegapunk would overlap with the roles of other members too much compared to Bonney who would fill the cabin girl/little sister role.
@joshuadenton346
@joshuadenton346 Ай бұрын
Lilith already joined the crew back in East Blue. We call her Nami.
@jamesvaldez5071
@jamesvaldez5071 Ай бұрын
Maybe when he said "i wish i was alive in your time" he means something else. Everyone I've seen talk about this asks the question, "Why does he wish to be in the past so much?" However, i think he meant the future. He knows."joyboy" should return, and they even have a time frame. At the time, Roger knew he was going to die soon. So you can make the argument that he was wishing he could live long enough to see the return of joy boy. For it to be his time again.
@dweblinveltz5035
@dweblinveltz5035 Ай бұрын
I think Clover being a D further opens to door for Robin to be one, too.
@bogusdavallante7039
@bogusdavallante7039 Ай бұрын
She's not related to him tho?
@dweblinveltz5035
@dweblinveltz5035 Ай бұрын
@@bogusdavallante7039 didn't say she was, but now that you mention it, Clover's brother could be her dad.
@bogusdavallante7039
@bogusdavallante7039 Ай бұрын
@@dweblinveltz5035 I dunno, she doesn't have a letter D in her name Nico Robin 🤔🗿 would be fun tho, maybe Oda have something of sorts in store for us regarding that
@Lanaadrey
@Lanaadrey Ай бұрын
@@bogusdavallante7039 thats bc she took on her mums family name, "Nico Olvia", so that leaves her dad in the blank, If Clover told Olvia that his brother died bc he had the "D" in his name, might influence her in giving Robin her family name instead.
@bogusdavallante7039
@bogusdavallante7039 Ай бұрын
@@Lanaadrey so by that means, people who's mother had letter D in the name never passed it away if they used the traditional way of taking father's surname, lame :/ Could be tho, her nickname being a devil and her devil form would make even more sense if she's a D "enemy of "god" ".. but by that logic Ashura is also a demon, so Zoro could be a D too, also Zoro had a demonic nickname before too.. or maybe that nick is just in the Netflix adaptation, unsure. But interesting theme having 2 members representing demon presence and Luffy representing Sun God yet having D in his name.
@DarrenBrown-h5m
@DarrenBrown-h5m Ай бұрын
Love how you break down videos different then the rest up there with thunder & sawyer & vinlan this is want we want as manga readers
@juggernaut2110
@juggernaut2110 Ай бұрын
Something incorrect was said. The iron giant is not powering the den den mushi snail to transmit the information. It is just a hiding place strong enough to bear a lot of damage. nika or joyboy was not needed here to power the iron giant to power the den den mushi to transmit the information. vegapunk knew his life was in danger but he didnt know luffy was coming. Life was in danger therefore den den mushi was hidden in the iron giant. it gets activated after vegapunk's death. luffy being there simply woke the giant and made it walk so that the giant was not in its usual storage space. den den mushi would have activated whether luffy/nika/joyboy was there or not.
@JoyBoyTheories
@JoyBoyTheories Ай бұрын
The message cut when the robot powered down, and then returned when Luffy went G5 again and powered the robot.
@juggernaut2110
@juggernaut2110 Ай бұрын
@@JoyBoyTheories Why would vegapunk place a den den mushi powered by an unknown/untested/never seen by him power supply (G5 Luffy)? Constructing such a device would be unimaginable when he has never even met an actual joyboy. Also, vegapunk was surprised to know that luffy had come to the island. Yet he knew his death was certain, so why/how would he have planned it this way? The iron giant is getting knocked around and that is disrupting the transmission.
@JoyBoyTheories
@JoyBoyTheories Ай бұрын
Regardless of the "why", the actual event in the story is that the den den mushi cut off at the same moment the robot powered down, then turned back on immediately after Luffy went G5. And we already know Nika's heartbeat was what turned the robot on. It's a little confusing because the gorosei attacked the robot, but they did not destroy the den den mushi or do anything to cut the signal. Most likely the signal cut because the robot ran out of power, because Luffy had been out of G5 for awhile. From here the "why did Vegapunk do this" is a mystery, but you can speculate. Maybe Vegapunk read enough of the poneglyphs that he only wanted to reveal the message at a certain time. And a number of other possibilities if you want to think about it.
@scapeshiftmeta
@scapeshiftmeta Ай бұрын
I’ve been telling my friends for months and months that Lilith was going to be the Vegapunk to stick around because they chose Aya Hirano to be her voice actor. Not likely to bring Aya on to voice a bit part. Possible, but unlikely.
@danielrabbit3899
@danielrabbit3899 Ай бұрын
Outstanding work as always.
@whoopslap9865
@whoopslap9865 Ай бұрын
My take of what clover said is like what my history teacher told me. The past speaks to you through the stories that are passed on. Not that he had the voice of all things but that when he research the past, they speak to us. What vegapunk says is also what he would say, which I believe is a famous quote. I'll have to look it up. But the victor writes the past. You shouldn't just take the word of one side. Also, hot take but the breath of all things is not real and it is a fan creation
@SmoothWeeb
@SmoothWeeb Ай бұрын
the den den mushi transmitting the message definitely doesn't activate thanks to the robot activating. for all Vegapunk knew, the message was gonna be playing with the robot hidden in the trash cause nobody even knew it existed and if they found it, they would have a hard time destroying it. now York knows that they need to destroy the robot to be able to then destroy the den den mushi, but just having the robot power down above water won't be enough cause the message transmits independently of the robots energy
@tuvillo
@tuvillo Ай бұрын
The reason this sacrificial scene hits, is because nobody has in the back of their mind that they're probably still alive. Wano is a good example. Izo and Ashura didn't die until the scene with their graves, and I think Oda knew that. That means Ashura's death scene (also an explosion) didn't hit at all.
@ShuVii369
@ShuVii369 Ай бұрын
Im not sure by this but somehow - Emeth reminds be of Franky.. The reaction when Luffy isn't acknowledging that he is Joyboy. The design is build to create the "super" pose and it feels like Emeth was about to unleash a "Weapon''s left" but failed because of 900 years is not a short amount of time. Because of this, I remember a small conversation about emeth attacking the world nobles in marijoise 200 years ago which is something Franky would actually do so if he is agitated as seen during dressrose arc when he wanted to attach the Smile Factory alone. I don't have much but I think Emeth is merely conserving its energy for the past 900 years and not being powered by Gear 5 at all.
@jomes4137
@jomes4137 Ай бұрын
Did it ever specify that the robot needed to be powered in order for the snail to transmit? If it does i must have totally missed it
@derekdmonkey9951
@derekdmonkey9951 Ай бұрын
Man I gotta say I was wrong about emet not climbing the red line , I originally thought he might have appeared due to time travel, but he himself said last 900 years has rusted ....... Bla bla .... , but this still doesn't answer did he climb or what ?
@mikwing17
@mikwing17 Ай бұрын
Joyboy = Vegapunk Lilith = Luffy York = Teach
@ifantsaurells3014
@ifantsaurells3014 Ай бұрын
The OnePiece Treasure is The Stone of Destiny...
@IncogSkbb021
@IncogSkbb021 Ай бұрын
The only part I would argue is, that Blackbeard may not be able to nullify DF powers if the user's haki is string enough. I believe that is why we have Luffy on a Haki education arc and also why Shanks has no DF users on his crew. Roger knew of the DF that nullifies others and made sure that haki was the key power of their crew. Luffy will be able to out haki BB in the final fight. My fall back was Nika having immunity but, I feel that haki is the more logical route.
@thesetsus8727
@thesetsus8727 Ай бұрын
Regarding that line about hearing the voices. The main point was to make a shoutout to Vegapunk's moral sense/heart. Clover is basically telling him it's Vegapunk's moral or ethical duty to not turn his back to the voices of the past victims. Maybe Clover thinks this is a duty for a man of science or a duty of any man in position to actually be able to do something about it, or maybe it's even a moral obligation of passing the baton "if I fail, you do it in my stead!", that part is left up to interpretation. It's just such a Japanese cultural thing. It's like a samurai shouting to a lone ronin "it's your duty to avenge your lord and then to spill your own guts to save your face!". And at the end of his broadcast Vegapunk says the exact same words Clover directed to him back then. I think he is trying to pass on the torch to anyone who is listening and who will end up being another unfortunate soul to continue the research of void century, because Vegapunk's research was far from done yet. Ofc that's only my interpretation of that scene. It just doesn't have to mean it's about voice of all things, but it can be deliberate use of wrod "voices" there ofc.
@ActualHumanMigz
@ActualHumanMigz Ай бұрын
I think you're on the nose about bioengineered humans etc in the One Piece world. I've thought this too for a while: the possible crime of the Ancient Kingdom, of Joyboy even perhaps, being they tried playing God, making all manner of the impossible possible. Creating the Devil Fruits, altering human lineage to evolve into minks, fishmen, etc. It's something the world at large would consider taboo and want to put an end to, as well as parallel Vegapunk to the Kingdom in that he aligns with neither good or evil, but rather to science and advancing it.
@TerrisH20
@TerrisH20 Ай бұрын
Toki! Like how she sent herself into the future, what if she sent something/one else into the future, that served the same purpose as punk records, to prevent it from being destroyed then. At laughtail. Set to arrive at a known time there.
@adamandthetestifiers
@adamandthetestifiers Ай бұрын
Blackbeard would be DestroyBoy
@paperstars9078
@paperstars9078 Ай бұрын
im fine with clover not having the voice of all things. I think of it like heisenberg to oppenheimer about algebra. The quest isn’t can you read the notes but can you hear the music…
@BilliamJoyBoy
@BilliamJoyBoy Ай бұрын
I think I have heard this theory before where the void century punk records is the moon, and Blackbeard can tap into it because he doesn’t sleep.
@haminthefridge
@haminthefridge Ай бұрын
What do you think about the prisoners of impel down thinking that buggy is joyboy. "Someone who will show up and pull you out of your misery and put a smile on your face". They followed the clown
@mathieuleader8601
@mathieuleader8601 Ай бұрын
I'm hoping that the big twist that Oda's editor said is to come is that Xebec is still alive as former LV 5 inmate Roche Thomson
@mokaljordan
@mokaljordan Ай бұрын
Lilith has a purpose with Ms Buckingham wanting to prove to Marco that Weevil is Whitebeard's son, what she does beyond that im not sure 9:34 Buggy is technically a Joyboy Candidate as well, oda made buggy a clown for a reason I feel like Lilith was Vegapunk's predominant personality before he created the satellites, u see this in his flashback with dragon,kuma and clover as well as when he cried for clover as lilith did for her fallen alters
@sanji_joestar
@sanji_joestar Ай бұрын
The idea of a stone network used to transfer messages reminds me a lot of the game Outer Wilds And it can be interesting to see what relics od the past are still active and also how are they active (Great game btw i absolutely recommend to anyone It's unique as it has a gameplay based on knowledge rather than abilities so '' no replayability '', you experience it once and that's it So avoid spoiling yourself if ever interested just go blind)
@monkeyDaltuve
@monkeyDaltuve Ай бұрын
The way vegapunk looks suspicious when Clover brings up D.. hmm makes me think vegapunk was already researching the past or is hiding something similar
@anon123214
@anon123214 Ай бұрын
Rest In Power, robo girl.
@OKingSizeTv
@OKingSizeTv Ай бұрын
I still wonder why people still treat the Will of D. as a theory. It's been solved already. D. means Dinkleberg.
@Mordred1337
@Mordred1337 Ай бұрын
when vegapunk talks about the roger pirates and that they heard it from the purest source possible... what about TOKI ? she was from the void century and together with oden on rogers ship...
@streetvybzswag1.067
@streetvybzswag1.067 Ай бұрын
Wait wait wait a gosh darn minute when did Joy_boy's videos start having animations😂
@StrawHatKufi
@StrawHatKufi Ай бұрын
The Streisand Effect
@jomes4137
@jomes4137 Ай бұрын
God egghead is making us all Qanon style theorists 😂
@andremaffessoni4022
@andremaffessoni4022 Ай бұрын
Beautifull. I believe that the giants, the devil fruits, perhaps even Haki could be engeneering from the past, including cyborgs. We know that Vegapunk and pthers were, as they said "archeologists" so that's probably the answer. Finally I believe that as the ancient weapons can be used for the good and to create, they can be used for destroy, that's tje relation between Luffy and Blackbeard
@fakerichardtherager2560
@fakerichardtherager2560 Ай бұрын
I'm calling it. This whole telepathy thing is indeed The Voice Of All Things, would explain a lot about the elders communicating, even explains their healing techniques. I wonder if the Voice of All Things is a type of advanced haki 🤔
@user-jg2kd4uf3r
@user-jg2kd4uf3r Ай бұрын
Final Endgame theory ( Chapter 1121 pOtEnTiAl spoiler) . Xebec is alive and the closed to Madara we re gonna get is that like Roger he reached Loadstar and propably Raftel too early. Thus he devices the plan to wait 40rty freaking years. The Shadow Swordman siloluet, is the Rurking Regend Rocks himself. His spirit at least with a broken DF ability , but in a cloned body. We know that Clones age rapidly, thus why he stay dormant with this cloned body until the fated moment. ( Xebec's crew ganging against him in Godvalley finally becomes possible, Kaidus word regarding betrayeal) This gives Law fruit for Perpetual Youth new relevancy.( death flag) . So Fingarland, Rayleigh even Garp have been dormant as well since they will be the first line to get knocked of by a rejuvenate Xebec to showcase his monstrous strength. ( the remnants of the same people that Fought him in Godvalley)
@paullavoie5542
@paullavoie5542 Ай бұрын
Evil is defined in the dictionary as moral wickedness.
@locopsychodude
@locopsychodude Ай бұрын
Both man made concepts
@su93r62
@su93r62 Ай бұрын
Idk why but i imagine lilith and edison surviving
@usamakhalid1637
@usamakhalid1637 Ай бұрын
Is there any chance water intial is more mysterious than D. And related to ancient kingdom and all this flooding situation...law mentioned his complete name was Trafalgar D. Water Law.
@drzpimpin809
@drzpimpin809 Ай бұрын
Wow roger totally could’ve been talking about luffys joyboy form great catch
@Justin-oq3ng
@Justin-oq3ng Ай бұрын
but how could joyboy know about this and write it down 😵‍💫 theres no way he can see 900years into the future with so much detail
@mellorebel4097
@mellorebel4097 Ай бұрын
Bout time my guy
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