The Hidden Zhu Yuan Tech in Zenless Zone Zero

[@SolessSolXS]

Find what more characters can do is super fun so if you guys want to see more content like this let me know! Tell me what was one tech that you didn't know about at all!

[@VaultF]

Brother I noticed you are not using Nicole's hidden tec. Do a full circle with the analog stick while charging her ex special. It makes her black hole last longer on field.

[@SolessSolXS]

@@VaultF yeah I know! I keep forgetting to do it but I definitely got to add that to the rotation!

[@scatherer]

been doing some dark souls fights in zero zone with her and kind of half of those i learnt while taking a beat (dying and restarting a lots of times), but i still feel like she still has more in her kit. - The repositioning from short side tilt special brings much more to the table if you align her against two enemies or more. (really save those last seconds in Shiyu Defense) - Nicole charged special shreds ether defense so discharge all Zhu Yuan suppression after swapping - The suppression mode has the same save state logic So you can loop: S1 - S2 - S3 - S4 - S5 - loop ( tilt S - S3 - S4 - S5 ) - reapply Nicole debuff and repeat, if enemy still stunned. Can loop even further if you have Zhu Yuan Mindscape 1

[@SolessSolXS]

Oh wow. I really love that I made this video because y'all showing me stuff I didn't know myself

[@blusliver6302]

I found a niche application for this playstyle in Hollow Zero. Get the Advanced Resonium from fusing 4 Critical Resonia to get the Execution effect on crit. Better if you can stack Insight buffs too. This allows you to kill normal enemies kinda fast without the need to group and nuke them. For elite and boss enemies, just go back to usual Stun > Burst rotation. Useful for farming Z-Merits.

[@araarashinigami]

Quick Assist swap in as well as Dodge Counter go into her BA3. Continuing basic attack after BA5 returns to BA3, allowing you to quickly build ammo with her BA4 and BA5. Regularly Dodging at any time during her BA string resets the string. And if you BA3 + L or BA3 + R loops you back into BA3, which can repeat infinitely (which means you'll never gain ammo).

[@Law-of-EnTropy]

@@araarashinigami part of the combo is shooting an EX skill so the ammo part isn't much a problem as it seems. My takeaway from this showcase is that Zhu Yuan is pretty flexible in what you can do to avoid and deal damage at the same time. And in times you can't do a full combo (because you're not attacking a static mob), having the leeway to dodge anytime is such a flex. and from what I learned doing Shiyu Defense, getting hit can cost you upwards of 2 seconds and those 2 seconds can be the difference between a S rank and an A rank run

[@SolessSolXS]

Yeah I was essentially trying to say this that you really don’t want to ever reset the string. It’s just not the end of the world if you do is all! You explained better than me right here tho!

[@robotoboy30]

Damn bro! Good content! I love the breakdowns of i-frames and combo routes. Not a lot of people in the space doing this, so it's good to see others doing so.

[@kfisher723]

This is awesome, thanks! Also, if you side-roll when you're in suppressive mode, you'll skip to the last 2 parts of that rotation which allow you to dump shells SUPER fast, she is a MONSTER

[@SolessSolXS]

Oh shot. See I love this stuff because a lot of you are telling me even more stuff lol

[@mattiemcdoink8445]

​@@SolessSolXS Yeah it's nuts. To use the terms you used in the video she has another Save state at her EBA2 that lets you go right into EBA3 after the Enhanced Dash Attack "Overwhelming Firepower" gets used. So you can actually dump all 9 Enhanced Shotshells with a combo string of: EBA1 > EBA2 > EBA3 > EDA > EBA3 Just like the regular Dash Attack version that EDA > EBA3 can be repeated infinitely though there's not much reason to do it without more Shotshells like if you have her M1 for the Quick Reload.

[@Takatakalaka]

0:52 this is one of her main hidden combos because it can be infinitely repeated and if you do the dash attack and hold it has a fluid transition into her suppressive mode. I made it my duty to master this and when I switch to her I only use her dash attack string and I don’t even take advantage of the kicks any more 100 percent ether bullets uptime

[@SolessSolXS]

Yeah I’ve seen that’s what most people do since everyone aims for being heavy on Burst DMG. I definitely need to do that more with her but I just having too much fun comboing with her lol

[@Xendyou22]

Sol keep the vids coming man i really enjoy your content and learning these techs that help bring the deeps! o7

[@SolessSolXS]

Appreciate the love! I'm just glad some of you guys are actually enjoying the content!

[@wihukeon]

damn i didn't know about the 2nd form of her ex special

[@SolessSolXS]

She definitely has some surprises!

[@JoeyDubsJR]

Not sure if correct but using Anby last part of chain attacks can be beneficial to switching to Nicole right after to hold her EX-Special for longest amount of defense down via assist into Zhu Yuan.

[@SolessSolXS]

hmmmm I didn't think of it this way. I'll start trying that out tonight!

[@mattiemcdoink8445]

Wall of Text incoming. I was curious about what you suggested and I tried my best to test it out. TL;DR: It's doable but the timing is pretty tight. And actually if you aren't going to be using her EX or Ult to start the stun rotation you actually have enough time from Nicole's chain to unload all 9 Shotshells. You might not get the defense debuff on the very last shell if you end up getting accidentally doing a normal attack at the beginning of the rotation instead of starting the Enhanced Basic rotation. So there's tradeoffs to doing things like that. In general you've got a few different durations at play here. You've got the Stun duration, Zhu Yuan's Crit Rate buff, and Nicole's Defense Down/Ether Damage buff. Keep in mind these aren't exact unless they're mentioned from somewhere in the character's kit and the numbers I'm about to cite come from just me sitting here with a stopwatch for the past several minutes trying things out. Stun lasts about 11s best I can tell from me trying to start the clock when a chain attack window expires to the bar emptying and the bonus damage number disappearing; ZY's Crit buff lasts 10s from Chain, EX, or Ultimate; and Nicole's buff/debuff lasts for the duration of the field and for 3.5s after it. In Nicole's case, the field seems to last for about 1s after ZY takes the field in a Nicole > ZY Chain Attack and that's actually enough time to do the Enhanced Basic Attack string for the 9 Shotshell rotation. In my timing it out it took about 4.5 seconds from first pressing the attack button after the Assist to do the 9 Shotshells which is pretty much exactly how long the defense down from Nicole's chain will last. For Nicole's EX it takes about 1s from pressing the button to fire the EX and the field lasts at base about 2s. You can charge the shot for about an extra second and with Nicole's M1 you get an extra 0.15s of duration for every 0.1s you charge for. I timed the basic charged shot's field to last about 3.5s so that tracks, 1s of charge would be 1.5s of duration. You can also double dip on the charge by doing a 360 just before you finish charging while still holding the button. This lets you charge what appears to be about another second and this version seems to last about 5s so that tracks. But whatever you do you really want it to fit into that ~11s Stun window, and into ZY's 10s Crit buff duration depending on if you're going to use an EX or Ult during it. If the rotation is going to include one of those then you only really have to worry about the stun timer. Timing as best I could from hitting the button to Chain to Anby on a ZY > Anby Chain Attack it took a little over 10s to swap to Nicole, do a regular Charge EX, swap to ZY, and do the 9 Shotshell rotation. I got the last Shotshell off just before the stun ended and that's not using Zhu Yuan's EX or Ultimate in the rotation. If I try to add those in I just barely get the 9th Shotshell off before the stun ends. It's doable, but it feels really REALLY tight to execute. I did miss it a few times due to the game sending her into a normal attack string rather than the Suppressive combo The Full Rotation I tested is: Stun, ZY Chain > Anby Chain, Swap to Nicole, Charged EX, ZY Assist Follow Up, EX > Ult > EBA1 > EBA2 > EBA3 > EDA > EBA3 Best I could time it, it takes a little over 3s from hitting the button for Anby's chain to swap to Nicole, charge the EX, and release it and have the Assist prompt appear. The field will then last for about another 3.5s from the M1 and the debuff will persist for another 3.5s after the field disappears. Ultimates don't seem to tick buff/debuff durations or like the Shiyu Defense timer for the main animation but the actual combat animation/recovery seems to take about a second for Zhu Yuan's Ult. Then the EX into the 9 Shotshell rotation on ZY seems to take a little over 5 seconds total to do. So in that ~11 seconds you've got a little over 3s for the setup, a little over 1 for the part of the Ultimate animation/recovery that seems to matter, and a little over 5 seconds for Zhu Yuan's actual damage rotation. That's a little over 9s total in what I've counted out of 11s for the Stun window. I'm definitely missing some time transitioning or recovering from things though because every time I try to do the full rotation if I can get it right I get off the last Shotshell and less than a second later the Stun ends.

[@iMacho1300]

The most funnest Agent to play in the entire game hands down.

[@arvss4622]

I don't know if you forgot or simply didn't know, but you can also move during the suppression state to speed up her shotshells consumption. She also deals more damage against dazed enemy so you don't even want to field time her too much or use your shotshells before stunning the enemy with anbi/other stunner. The combos with the normal attacks are cool and all but they're only ever useful if you want to regain some shotshells. You also just let Nicole's buff and def reduction effect expire before dumping your shells. Maybe you just want show the combo you explained earlier, and again the play style is cool and all but you're probably losing more than 50% of her damage output with the gameplay you showed.

[@SolessSolXS]

Appreciate the info. I'm just more some giving out concept with how the characters could be use for. I haven't played her optimally yet at all so I'll take this into consideration to clean up the gameplay!

[@Law-of-EnTropy]

damn, what an awesome showcase. it looks so smooth to play Zhu Yuan that way, like that triple dodge on the boss, DURING mid-combo, was lit af

[@SolessSolXS]

Yeah she’s fun asl!

[@Jaitiy]

Just wanna say thanks for getting me into the game Brotha Sol for this being my first Gatcha game this game been a vibe so far besides the few critiques I def don't like about the game but it just came out not that long ago so I will def give it time. Having pulled Zhu Yuan recently she's hella creative on what she can do and I like how expressive she is. Ill def hit you up on some point on discoed and such if I have any questions since videos like these really help more about the depth and understanding how to play the game better.

[@lukeamparo6586]

So she has Billy’s C2 in her kit from the get go. Neat. But for some reason she feels less impactful for her basic combos string. The empowered hits feel nice but I find myself running out of ether bullets and EX specials pretty fast. Billy feels good all around but his Ult feels unfocused for bosses, still good damage though.

[@SolessSolXS]

she's differently from Billy were just focuses on Burst DMG so she has short on-field time. You would mostly aim to unleash her empowered shots, and use EX special Attack and Ultimate only when you need shots to be reloaded so that you can maximize her ammo count and DPS.

[@brianbierlein4747]

Thanks for the info. I can't wait to try it once I get Zhu Yuan. Game is being coy with me. :( Also, just curious why you put Ultimate on Circle and Dash on R2? Thanks!

[@SolessSolXS]

No problem and it was just something that was comfortable to me. A lot of action games I play, my dash is normally R2 so I'm used that. Ultimate on circle tho was just due to me prioritizing other buttons on my controllers first so that's all I had left outside of X lol

[@LCDgunmage]

Great vid man! I had no idea about the EX special tech, i can def see that being a lifesaver in high intensity HZ (where im currently stuck 😂)

[@SolessSolXS]

I just randomly did it by accident and was like "wow they said nothing about this" lol

[@invalid3354]

Naw bro, you can't do my boy Billy dirty like that. Dodging while attacking isn't unique to Zhu Yuan, it's Billy's thing. Although admittedly, you need his mindscape to be able to do a perfect with his attacks.

[@SolessSolXS]

I was about to say Billy can do it but it’s not as good as Zhu’s tho but I didn’t know he had a copy that gave him a perfect dodge property for it

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Nah Billy can't dodge like her

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Also Grace can do the same, Grace actually dodged way more

[@alpha1954]

​@haruyanto8085 yes he can its called rolling shots but u need his 2nd cinema to give it perfect dodge property

[@LCDgunmage]

​@@SolessSolXSBilly DOES have the ability to perfect dodge during his rolling shot move but there are 2 conditions to it that make it inferior to Zhu's. 1. It has to be unlocked via cinematic mindscape, so if you are unlucky enough to still have Billy at 0/6 you can't do it 2. The window to activate the perfect dodge feels a little different because it's a bit delayed compared to Zhu's. More specifically the "dodge" part of the rolling shot attack is after the muzzle flare he uses to start the spin so you have to anticipate the enemy attack. Easy enough to get used to but Zhu's has a much more forgiving window of activation

[@plvto1]

and the thing is it's only 1.1, just think of how nuts characters will be in the future..

[@SolessSolXS]

It’s going to be crazy!

[@BlackMagister]

I'd have to spend a lot of time practicing using her dodge combo for invulnerability because I can see myself just getting bonked thinking I'm safe.

[@SolessSolXS]

Yeah it takes sometime to get used to the timing. Shot you can see in the video I still need to get better at it but it definitely helps once you do!

[@reydez84]

it does less dmg, dont

[@carsngo]

Hoping for more characters with the same level of depth as her in the future

[@SolessSolXS]

same! more characters like Zhu Yuan will be a lot of fun

[@Law-of-EnTropy]

nevermind missing those dodges, that mob is literally the one mob that makes you question whether or not dodging is the optimal thing to do LMAO

[@SolessSolXS]

LMAOOO facts

[@Gorjak13]

An then theirs it's boss varient that makes you question your entire life!

[@KetteiThe7th_]

Ayyyy the internet back baby hell yea

[@SolessSolXS]

Yes lol. Glad I could finally get this out

[@foxiki387]

(Insert negative edge joke) Fun watch though in all seriousness

[@SolessSolXS]

LMAO appreciate it

[@No.Google.I.dont.like.handles]

Is there a reason you're not doing a 360 on Nicole? Her EX special last longer when fully done or you can shoot it in the air and setup Zhu Yuan faster

[@SolessSolXS]

I be forgetting to do it sometimes lmao

[@PRSWAGSTER99]

She’s a bit too committal on some of her strings for me. Even the best Zhu yuan players right now consistently get hit a lot. I get around this by double dodging back attack and holding down attack back for ultimate shot safety. Also, she can spam her crazy diving side dodge infinitely while getting her shots back. Grace is still the queen of movement along with Billy being the king. If you get hit with either of those 2 characters it might be on you honestly. Grace recharges my zhu yuans energy for me so she always has shells. Zhu yuan is more of a Mob combo juggler and quick call in to for me. She can start juggles from Nicole’s knickknack unEX skill with a slide in which is dope imo. Still want Yanagi as f2p but zhu yuan is gonna carry me for a while I bet.

[@SolessSolXS]

Hmm I feel like Billy is much more committal than her in comparison but I can understand Grace! Zhu imo just takes time to get used to so you know the ends and outs of her timing. How she’s normally played also doesn’t require her to be on field too long in comparison then the other 2 so her windows don’t feel as bad at least for me. I can understand what you’re coming from tho!

[@PRSWAGSTER99]

@@SolessSolXS She’s definitely flexible in the different play styles you can use her in so she’s hella fun for sure. Ngl tho, since I’m f2p, if I lost the 50/50 I was either quitting the game or starting over lol

[@SolessSolXS]

@@PRSWAGSTER99 damnnn I understand tho. Losing the 50/50 freaking sucks

[@tenchikid80]

Id rather just negative edge tbh

[@SolessSolXS]

lmao the edge do be negative

[@nagichwaan]

I don't know if I'm lucky or not. At first I pulled Lyc and Koleda at 20 pulls in the standard banner then Grace's weapon at 70 pulls. I got Zhu in 50 pulls and another Zhu at 30 so basically I won a consecutive 50/50 in Zhu's banner in only 80 pulls. Then I rolled again for another 50 in the standard then I got another Koleda. I tried my luck in the limited banner hoping I'll pull Grace or Rina and pull 30 pulls and guess what! I got another Lyc. A C1 Zhu, C1 Lyc and C1 Koleda. I was supposed to have 6 S-rank agents or at least 4 but damn. At lvl 43 I only have 3 S-ranks and 2 stun agents at that. I only have Zhu as my S-rank DPS. But I can't hate the fact that i have a guaranteed pull for the next limited agent I want and the resources won't spread too much so leveling wasn't that hard. I'm happy with my C1 Zhu though

[@LegendaryBattalion]

🤘🏻

[@araarashinigami]

Bro, if you're gonna make a video about her dodges, please practice dodging before hand. You pulled off a dodge maybe 1/4 of the time... XD

[@SolessSolXS]

You right lmao. I was more so trying to show everything conceptually since I never claim myself to be the best at games. I just like find cool stuff