The High-Tech Attack Aircraft the US Allowed the Enemy to Steal

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Dark Skies

Dark Skies

Күн бұрын

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@LordHolley
@LordHolley 7 ай бұрын
Moral to the story, complacency kills.
@antwango
@antwango 7 ай бұрын
US STILL thinks it is untouchable.... its not even complacency, its full blown arrogance
@jasonariola6363
@jasonariola6363 7 ай бұрын
So do democrats
@Alan-rt3se
@Alan-rt3se 4 ай бұрын
@@jasonariola6363 This has NOTHING to do with Democrats vs Republicans. You see the Democrats as more of an enemy than the Russians or China. Sad!!
@michaelpipkin9942
@michaelpipkin9942 7 ай бұрын
I grew up in Vegas. I saw the Stealth before it went public as a Boy Scout at camp in the woods. I knew exactly what it was. My first love.
@brj_han
@brj_han 7 ай бұрын
I still think all those "triangular" UFO sightings back in the 90's was stealth... 😁
@ferarribrown5752
@ferarribrown5752 7 ай бұрын
No doubt! Lol!!
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 7 ай бұрын
Airplanes fly. They don't hover. I'm sure some were Nighthawk sightings but a lot weren't.
@andrewbrown6786
@andrewbrown6786 7 ай бұрын
There were plenty of ‘unexpected’ noises and objects in parts of the UK in the late 70’s & 80’s that were always suggested by authorities as being UFO’s - but in truth were SR71’s and F117’s - if America was happy to base some nukes somewhere, they were more than happy to send secret aircraft there as well!
@flickingbollocks5542
@flickingbollocks5542 7 ай бұрын
Apart from those tictac that the US saw
@paktahn
@paktahn 7 ай бұрын
i doubt it it looks nothing like a triangle from the ground and it is far from silent once it passes you it is actually quite loud as i have seen them in flight several times while fishing at a dam that the airforce used for practicing bomb runs
@stevoplex
@stevoplex 6 ай бұрын
"Sorry. We didn't know it was invisible ". 😆
@tokyosmash
@tokyosmash 7 ай бұрын
This is one of the last large cases of “tactical arrogance” coming out of the 90’s and moving toward GWOT, the powers that be had for too long operated under the idea that U.S. forces were above reproach.
@VerdoVeri
@VerdoVeri 4 ай бұрын
Serbs also claimed that they hit B2 which then somehow crawled out of Serbian airspace, interesting US not long afterreported fatal accident in the US by on of B-2 never before, never since
@urosjovanovic3142
@urosjovanovic3142 6 күн бұрын
@VerdoVeri It was not a coincidence ;)
@johncashwell1024
@johncashwell1024 7 ай бұрын
You forgot to mention that the reason for the successful targeting and shootdown was because (once again) politicians had meddled with military affairs and the F-117As were restricted to flying a specific route and were not allowed to fly in full "stealth" mode. Attempting to make it appear that he had done something 'extraordinary', the enemy claimed to have been able to detect and target the aircraft using skill, resource, intelligence, etc. and, while it was possible to detect the open payload door, it is only open for a few seconds and once closed the missile would have lost the lock, so that was not the reason. Being forced to continously transmit it's location so as to be visible and fly the exact same route night after night was the reason for the shoot down.
@matovicmmilan
@matovicmmilan 6 ай бұрын
Does this nonsense make you feel better? The others like you use the "open door" excuse to do the same.
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 6 ай бұрын
@@matovicmmilan Lol It's not nonsense. It's what happened. This story is well known now. You'd know that if you had any idea whatsoever what you're talking about. Does it make YOU feel better, knowing you've been lying to yourself for over 20 years, about a subject that's easily verifiable?
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 6 ай бұрын
Correct, but good luck getting the rest of these idiots to understand that.
@patdohrety2940
@patdohrety2940 6 ай бұрын
@@matovicmmilan you absolute clowns hop up and down and claim stunning victory. You shot down our oldest stealth tech. Take a chill pill my dearest little clown buddy :)🤡
@nickkorkodylas5005
@nickkorkodylas5005 5 ай бұрын
Copium maximum.
@Istandby666
@Istandby666 7 ай бұрын
The Have Blue project started in 1972. In 1976, the Have Blue project became the F-117 project.
@Estes705
@Estes705 6 ай бұрын
I don't recall the particular timeline, but I'm thinking Have Blue came out of the Tacit Blue project, which produced the "Flying Whale", aka, "The Alien School Bus". From the front, Tacit Blue has serious creepy UFO vibes! LOL
@thegunslinger1363
@thegunslinger1363 7 ай бұрын
During Desert Storm. The Saudis nicknamed them "ghosts." I highly recommend you check out the book Skunk Works by Ben R. Rich.
@rbolo29
@rbolo29 7 ай бұрын
"Shabah" I was TDY in the USAF over in Kuwait in 1998-1999 and I heard the same from them. I was stationed at Holloman AFb[F-117's] as my home base.
@MaSterChOu1
@MaSterChOu1 7 ай бұрын
That book is fantastic !
@krisvalenti4141
@krisvalenti4141 7 ай бұрын
Yes great book but in contrast to this video , the book never claims the plane was invisible. More likely highly, highly not visible to most radar.
@antwango
@antwango 7 ай бұрын
@@krisvalenti4141 US propaganda and marketing.... even in the video, the guy says nothing is invisible.... only less visible... everybody knows this now, people knew it back then.... US used to have a tech advantage.... because everybody was poor in every area.... this is no longer the case.... stealth is no longer stealth.... US no longer sitting alone at the table
@mrhassell
@mrhassell 7 ай бұрын
It wasn't allowed to be stolen. It wasn't possible to save the aircraft and self destruct wasn't activated.
@DavidSchut
@DavidSchut 4 ай бұрын
My Dad was very proud of his Air Force time. They used to tour different bases during their world travels and during this time period they were somehow able to get a hanger tour to check out a f117 close up. I still have the picture
@dannycalley7777
@dannycalley7777 4 ай бұрын
UJ .............back in the middle 90s at a Blues show in Pensacola they had on display a117 you could not get within 75 ft. of it !!!!! armed Marines with shotguns and 16s
@elaishh3533
@elaishh3533 6 ай бұрын
I have been watching military history videos since 2000, never heard about how the radar was utilized. Fantastic video.
@Scrunkly_blorbo
@Scrunkly_blorbo 7 ай бұрын
the fact these secret skunkworks project are always in service years before their publicly announced gives me hope for the sr72 being real asf
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 7 ай бұрын
You must not have seen Sandbox News video in the SR 72. It's real. It's already been built and testing for years now. Lockheed even "admitted" it's a real plane. Go watch the video. It's great.
@brianv1988
@brianv1988 7 ай бұрын
Yeah it's definitely a real project and they already built flying prototypes I'm more interested in the nags supposedly it will have some crazy capability and technology in them
@SickBuckNaStY
@SickBuckNaStY 6 ай бұрын
Yea I worked a catering banquet at a facility hosting a bunch of areospace companys and Lockheed Martin was there and they had tgese metal airplane models of the SR-72 out at their booth and I asked a guy there what I had to do to get one and the guy said get me a beer, so I did but then when I asked for the model, he laughed and walked away sadly. We had to follow very specific and strict rules/guidelines so as to not have any of our phones on us or take any pictures of anything for national security purposes, so yea, it is definitely already built it just hasn't been widely fielded yet.
@eclipsewolf9451
@eclipsewolf9451 7 ай бұрын
0:34 the f117 doesn’t have an RWR…
@YouveBeenMiddled
@YouveBeenMiddled 7 ай бұрын
*F117:* "You can't shoot me down with those ComBloc missiles. I am invincible!" *Yugoslavians:* "Bet."
@operator8014
@operator8014 4 ай бұрын
U.S. politicians: "We'll see about THAT!"
@sesapup
@sesapup 7 ай бұрын
I remember reading sometime in the 80s (pop mech or science) about an unknown craft that showed an inverted v-shaped light signature. People were "UFO?" but it was probably the F-117 and it's unique exhaust. I later saw one at the 1991 Miramar air show.
@fatbikejamie
@fatbikejamie 7 ай бұрын
Im a little confused about the ejection that was both "just moments before impact" *and* "knowing his high altitude would extend his [radio's] reach"
@g-3409
@g-3409 6 ай бұрын
It is because this «documentary» is based on stealing footage and «facts» from old documentaries.
@markbeiser
@markbeiser 5 ай бұрын
It was the high altitude of the airplane he contacted that could extend the reach of his communication. It was awkwardly worded.
@djr3386
@djr3386 7 ай бұрын
Great narration, nail biting story-telling. Watched it from beginning to end. 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽 P.S. Thanks for keeping the music on the down low during your commentary.
@antwango
@antwango 7 ай бұрын
lol soooo you normally never finish videos you click on
@michaelchristensen5421
@michaelchristensen5421 7 ай бұрын
This F-117 was shot down because the stupid Air Force kept taking the same exact flight plan for the return leg of the missions. Duh, it was only a matter of time.
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 7 ай бұрын
Even worse - the F-117 was supposed to have support from ECM aircraft (EA-6B Prowlers) to jam the Yugoslav radars. The EA-6B mission that night was scrubbed due to bad weather, but the F-117 mission was not cancelled and went ahead unsupported. Plus, the Serbs had many spies in Italy reporting all NATO aircraft takeoffs to Belgrade, and they were also monitoring NATO communications. Basically, NATO made the classic mistake of underestimating the enemy.
@EdwardFin
@EdwardFin 7 ай бұрын
@@timonsolus Same flight path would have allowed optical observers through the whole path 😀
@brianv1988
@brianv1988 7 ай бұрын
They did many strikes after this shoot down with no problems probably because they changed up their flight route and only did strikes when they had jamming aircraft available it was a lucky shot from the anti-air teams to catch the aircraft while the Bombay doors were open on top of they knew exactly when they were in the air cause of spies watching the aircraft take off
@antwango
@antwango 7 ай бұрын
@@timonsolus so essentially nothings changed even today.... underestimating the enemy and arrogance and self belief
@timonsolus
@timonsolus 7 ай бұрын
@@Jess96722 : No. The Foxbat (MiG-25) is 8 years older than the F-15. The U.S. designed the F-15 as a desperate, panicked response to the MiG-25, because they originally believed that the Foxbat was a killer dogfighting machine (like the F-15), as well as a Mach 3 interceptor. It wasn’t until 1976 when a Soviet pilot defected and landed a Foxbat in Japan that the Americans realised their mistake. The 1982 movie “Firefox” was based on America’s scare over the Foxbat 10 years earlier.
@eriknewman5288
@eriknewman5288 6 ай бұрын
Our involvement in Bosnia (I was there) was a tragedy. No one knew who was the bad guy. Everyone was killing each other. This is what happens when a coalition of nations gets involved in affairs they probably created and have designs on geo politics that favor them and not the citizens of that nation. Looking at Ukraine.
@matovicmmilan
@matovicmmilan 6 ай бұрын
That's one great truth you stated & explained perfectly! All the UN and NATO involvement achieved was prolonging both the war itself and the suffering of civilians. America lobbied through the UN the establishment of the no-fly-zone over Bosnia allegedly to prevent civilian casualties (not a single such case had taken place) however in reality out of 3 sides in the conflict only the Serbian side possessed an air force.
@matovicmmilan
@matovicmmilan 6 ай бұрын
Also on several crucial occasions when the Bosnian Serbs Army achieved significant progress and the enemy was in disarray - America threatened the Serbs with air and ground invasion if they don't pull back immediately.
@trumanhw
@trumanhw 7 ай бұрын
Sure, the F-117 was already 20yo tech, but the missiles they used to down it were almost 20 years older. A good reminder to those who think the F-16 will be another 'game changer' in Ukraine vs a modern IAD. BTW: That entire campaign was predicated on dubious claims of _genocide_ ... and while you've probably HEARD about the Chinese Embassy bombing, I doubt you've heard the facts described most objectively: It wasn't _a lone, stray bomb._ We dropped FIVE Mk84, 2,000 lb GPS guided JDAMs on China's Embassy. Even if all 5 bombs had struck a neighboring building, is there any doubt in the massive damaged it'd do? The truck bomb used to attack the US Embassy in Kenya only got NEAR the building with 4,000 lb of TNT. We ALL KNOW our media issues brazen lies to our faces: _Natural immunity doesn't work._ And _it's safe & effective._ (They just changed the very definition of _vaccine_ to accommodate the function of their product, instead of vice-versa.) Despite knowing better than to trust them, many of us still do, about (of all things) claims we have no means of verifying. I even took their claims as being made _in good faith_ myself, when they said there was a genocide, but I at least remembered that I was, even if only tentatively, accepting it [on faith], not evidence. Since then, I've heard numerous people (usually retired officers from the US Military) challenging that narrative, along with many citizens of the belligerent nations. While I'm glad the pilot survived, I hardly lament the downing of an F-117. I wish nations worldwide better ways to defend themselves from the most hostile & aggressive nation the world has seen since WWII.
@daleshelden8394
@daleshelden8394 7 ай бұрын
You're a commie!
@TheBadBunny87
@TheBadBunny87 4 ай бұрын
The hostility is an illusion. Because they are the only nation other than the UK that will actively pursue an aggressor nation or a manic dictator/terror group. Putting themselves into a war/conflict/skirmish or Peace keeping mission. Also it was very much a genocide. Only a fool would think otherwise. You may not care for America or its allies, however the world is a safer place because of them, regardless of yur brainwashed opinions.
@zachary8491
@zachary8491 7 ай бұрын
5:20 "...for nuclear and chemical weapons..." sure. 😅
@RussetPotato
@RussetPotato 7 ай бұрын
Took a photo of one of these in a hangar at MacDill AFB at an airshow in circa 1991 (maybe 1992) the security forces were none too pleased.
@dakkuri1
@dakkuri1 7 ай бұрын
😅 I used to be security forces. So they were thinking man we got guard this s*** for this Air Show😅
@PresidentNotSoSure
@PresidentNotSoSure 5 ай бұрын
They never took your camera though. Even had ladders out so people could see the top of the jets.
@stevoplex
@stevoplex 6 ай бұрын
I saw one flying at an air show at Hanscom AFB where I worked at the time. A silent black triangle rapidly approaching from the distance, audible only when nearly overhead. Spooky!
@SPak-rt2gb
@SPak-rt2gb 7 ай бұрын
Before Have Blue it was called the Hopeless Diamond then they added the wings and tail
@AgungPrasetyaAgni
@AgungPrasetyaAgni 7 ай бұрын
0:13 radar guided? isn't it guided by laser or gps?
@at_3831
@at_3831 4 ай бұрын
Depending on the mission we used tv guided Mavericks too
@ferarribrown5752
@ferarribrown5752 7 ай бұрын
Shared!
@teddeebayre3433
@teddeebayre3433 7 ай бұрын
I heard the F117 was detected during the split second the weapons bay was opened.
@stevenr8606
@stevenr8606 4 ай бұрын
😡 KC-135 DO NOT have twin jet engine nacelle as you have shown @10:57. Are you believable ❓️ 😮
@Swellington_
@Swellington_ 7 ай бұрын
they had a parade and everything,its hilarious 😂 😂
@rayceeya8659
@rayceeya8659 7 ай бұрын
If it was seen from a KC-135 Stratotanker, Why are you showing a clip of a B-52?
@ЛевГригорьев-б6л
@ЛевГригорьев-б6л 7 ай бұрын
Да, сперва мелькнул B-52, но позже сзади уже можно разглядеть KC-135. Yes, the B-52 is glimpsed first, but later you can already make out the KC-135 from behind.
@serberian
@serberian 7 ай бұрын
I suggest checking the video description.
@technoir2584
@technoir2584 7 ай бұрын
Definitely the coolest looking aircrafts I've seen.
@benfoot4212
@benfoot4212 7 ай бұрын
I saw them on their way from Ramstein to Desert Storm. Incredible air craft.
@markchapman2585
@markchapman2585 7 ай бұрын
Colonel Donie was pretty smart
@eastafrika728
@eastafrika728 3 ай бұрын
Wasn't it shot down by a Russian S75 missile?
@Snake-ms7sj
@Snake-ms7sj 7 ай бұрын
The first F-117's were delivered in 1982 and became operational in 1983.
@marvingehman8791
@marvingehman8791 7 ай бұрын
He didn’t have his jamming wingman.
@trumanhw
@trumanhw 7 ай бұрын
Jamming is an even more perfect phoneme that you realize: Because RADAR (fake returns) is the OG of spamming 🤣
@veritasardens6547
@veritasardens6547 7 ай бұрын
Stealth does not work against Infrasound which can penetrate everything, stealth only works against Ultrasound (high frequency sound waves) very clever tactic indeed!
@mypuppydogtizzy1058
@mypuppydogtizzy1058 7 ай бұрын
not that clever, they knew it could be seen in an empty sky, but a stupid general sent it anyway. we may have color telly now but the military brass are as stupid as the 14 18 war
@sundragon7703
@sundragon7703 7 ай бұрын
Did I miss something? Why was the Nighthawk given the fighter (F) designation, not the attack (A) designation?
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 7 ай бұрын
Because it's a skunkworks project
@thelmaviaduct
@thelmaviaduct 7 ай бұрын
F is sexier and so less likely to get budget removed.
@EdwardFin
@EdwardFin 7 ай бұрын
To confuse enemy
@aaronisgrate
@aaronisgrate 7 ай бұрын
​@@EdwardFin to recruit the best pilots.
@TheBadBunny87
@TheBadBunny87 4 ай бұрын
TheY decided to go with the 'F' designation to attract the best pilots.
@at_3831
@at_3831 4 ай бұрын
I was on EOR arming and disarming the F-16’s that flew the wild weasel mission along w these jets. I watched it take off, knew something went wrong that night and found out what on CNN bf our own command. Two of our jets were the first on scene and provided aircover while the rescue mission was coordinated. This video didn’t talk about the F-16’s from Spangdahlem that were there.
@jasoncampbell5518
@jasoncampbell5518 2 ай бұрын
So why would you keep flying in on the same route every night ?
@annehersey9895
@annehersey9895 7 ай бұрын
You see some amazing planes often while driving on the 395 from Victorville to Bishop or vise versa because you are between Edwards AFB and China Lake NAS. I remember seeing the above plane in the 90’s flying above ne by China Lake and I really thought I was seeing a flying saucer until I remembered that Area 51 and Groom Lake, Nevada were ju😢over the hills from China Lake but it was a sight to behold!st
@rodolfotayag1337
@rodolfotayag1337 4 ай бұрын
Allowed? Where did you got this information?
@elmerfudpucker3204
@elmerfudpucker3204 7 ай бұрын
This was leading edge technology back then. The control systems designed to operate the F-117 was a giant leap forward in computerized flight controls. It would never have been able to fly with out those breakthroughs.
@colinm_pe
@colinm_pe 6 ай бұрын
Don’t really answer the thumbnail of why we let it get captured.
@matovicmmilan
@matovicmmilan 6 ай бұрын
He claims that it was allegedly "due to the technology being 40 years old"...funny enough how up to that point the entire video was about the F-117 being the best, completely invisible, absolutely invincible, most marvelous piece of technology ever 😂 Some people obviously have personality issues...
@christaylor6654
@christaylor6654 7 ай бұрын
We had NO business in Kosovo much less picking sides. Both sides of that conflict were out to eliminate the other but we picked a side and put propaganda to work to make the Muslims victims. Both sides were evil and all we did was prolong a divide that’s still festering
@rogerthat4545
@rogerthat4545 6 ай бұрын
So, you're cool with genocide?
@Av-vd3wk
@Av-vd3wk 7 ай бұрын
0:31 Waaaait just a MINUTE man…The F-117 DID NOT have a RWR!! Where do you do your research dude? It didn’t have a RWR; “to maintain its low observability, the F-117 was not equipped with radar; not only would an active radar be detectable through its emissions, but an inactive radar antenna would also act as a reflector of radar energy.” With stealth technology in its infancy, Skunkworks couldn’t provide such a system while also maintaining optimum stealth. Additionally, with the constraints of radar technology at the time no one could target the F-117. And yes, one was shot down by the Serbians but the sequence of events that led to that are both comical and incredible…
@paktahn
@paktahn 7 ай бұрын
rwr is not radar it is a radar receiver lots of planes that did not have radar had rwr im not sure about the f117 but i know for instance some a4 skyhawks didnt have a radar but had rwr the a10 also does not have radar but has rwr
@Av-vd3wk
@Av-vd3wk 7 ай бұрын
@@paktahn um… you’re still wrong. F117 did not have it due to risks…was totally blacked out. Did you not comprehend what I said?
@thehark6247
@thehark6247 7 ай бұрын
took all that to beat some camel scrubbers, and they still built a taliban army ,armed it up, and split.
@paktahn
@paktahn 7 ай бұрын
@@Av-vd3wk ok first you said it didnt have rwr then put a quote about radar that alone implies you dont know that radar and rwr are two different systems second im not wrong about anything asshole because i said i wasnt sure if the f117 had rwr or not apparently you are the one with the comprehension problem
@craig_sez8534
@craig_sez8534 7 ай бұрын
Around the 6:30ish mark its said "lacking onboard radar" so it dropped its radar guided munitions via an ac able to do so..
@hammyh1165
@hammyh1165 7 ай бұрын
Forty odd year old tech , imagine what they have in development now ! .
@bubaba8938
@bubaba8938 6 ай бұрын
Yep, both Russia and U.S are reluctant to use their best planes because they can be detected and destroyed. F 35 is supposedly the stealthies plane in the world , yet if they'd be able to do missions without risk of being destroyed we would have seen them being donated to Ukraine thus saving money on long run by pushing Russians out of Ukraine
@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw
@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw 4 ай бұрын
I hate the click bait titles this channel uses
@KuvDabGib
@KuvDabGib 5 ай бұрын
Bomb doors were firmly closed when F-117 was acquired by targeting radar... ITs target and IP and bomb drop points were 30 km away from the launch point of SA-3 which had hit it. TO make things even more embarassing for the USAF - it wasnt standard dual launch because 2nd missile was lost its guidance link at the moment of launch, so it was just one missile which tracked it and killed it.
@Will-dn9dq
@Will-dn9dq 6 ай бұрын
Guy shot down the f117 would keep his radar off then turn it on briefly. He knew the planes runnin same directions vs changing plans. He waited an caught them bay doors open. Played w his signals an boom
@narfbite5239
@narfbite5239 7 ай бұрын
So I always heard that nighthawks are used as OPFOR as stand ins for 5th gen fighters because we don’t have access to true enemy 5th gen fighters. We don’t need to have access to said fighters because their stealth capabilities are directly built off the nighthawk so we know exactly what their capabilities are….way to go US
@Yelladog78
@Yelladog78 6 ай бұрын
It's still awesome looking
@ΟδυσσέαςΔαλαμάγκας
@ΟδυσσέαςΔαλαμάγκας 7 ай бұрын
Sorry did not know it was stealthy/invisible!
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy 7 ай бұрын
What are you here for?
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 7 ай бұрын
You people are so ignorant.
@trumanhw
@trumanhw 7 ай бұрын
@@dextermorgan1 So sensitive. Need a bottle?
@censorthis-uu6cc
@censorthis-uu6cc 6 ай бұрын
@@dextermorgan1 - Actually I suspect he _did_ know. I think it was sarcasm, I can sense these things.
@harryblox760
@harryblox760 4 ай бұрын
14:37. Their little gibe saying we thought it was invisible. 🤭. You didn't even know we had the ruddy thing, and for the last 20 years we've been snapping pics of your yard on the regs big man.
@edwardbughiuc100
@edwardbughiuc100 4 ай бұрын
it's probably good at uber eats delivery
@cte4dota
@cte4dota 5 ай бұрын
USA did not want to destroy remins of plane on the ground but they bombed Chinese ambasy knowing plane was there? Huh.
@trainmanroysmodelrailroadh7686
@trainmanroysmodelrailroadh7686 4 ай бұрын
if memory serves, the flight path was leaked by a Polish officer at a briefing which allowed the SAM's to be positioned for an ambush. Your video is just fancy click bait
@RichardFraser-y9t
@RichardFraser-y9t 7 ай бұрын
Its fine untill you open the missile doors and you had a good idea of where they might be.
@tobiaswillson5900
@tobiaswillson5900 7 ай бұрын
you would think after all this time the doors would open like a cars sun roof,
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 7 ай бұрын
​@@tobiaswillson5900It wouldn't matter. Radar would still bounce off if the doors were open.
@paktahn
@paktahn 7 ай бұрын
@@tobiaswillson5900 or that the bombs would just slide out the back the only way they would see you is if the radar was behind you while deploying weapons the door could also be way smaller and could probably get away with one and have a magazine to push the next bomb in place and use compressed air or hydraulics to push it out
@enigma51ted
@enigma51ted 7 ай бұрын
would have been better to Eject the bomb-bay doors
@paktahn
@paktahn 7 ай бұрын
@@enigma51ted no it wouldnt as the weapons in the bay along with the bay itself and everything else in it would have to be designed for stealth
@codystout5353
@codystout5353 7 ай бұрын
I mean when you are shot down in enemy territory with no ground troops not much you can do.
@Sven_Dongle
@Sven_Dongle 7 ай бұрын
That design was a limitation of computational finite element analysis of the time.
@fred-ft3hg
@fred-ft3hg 7 ай бұрын
16 bit 😂
@aaronisgrate
@aaronisgrate 7 ай бұрын
Yep. The computers and software of the time couldn't really calculate radiuses in the way they needed them to. ECHO was the program used to come up with the shape of the F117
@antwango
@antwango 7 ай бұрын
@@fred-ft3hg blast processing
@itsa-itsagames
@itsa-itsagames 4 ай бұрын
All these countries actually need to thank the US for not being so barbaric Like if the usa with its crazy military budget and strength was not as moral as say some other countries, they would just build entire fleets of b52s and just level entire countries with no care who or what gets annihilated
@scottdrums2128
@scottdrums2128 7 ай бұрын
1991 They were first used in desert storm.
@T-tr6ql
@T-tr6ql 7 ай бұрын
amazing.
@JW23551
@JW23551 6 ай бұрын
Only because it matters to us Nevadans...It's pronounced with a "short A" sound...like badlands. Not Nev-od-a. ;)
@Gorilla_Jones
@Gorilla_Jones 7 ай бұрын
They got lucky. A perfect storm of luck.
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 7 ай бұрын
No American got arrogant and stupid
@mypuppydogtizzy1058
@mypuppydogtizzy1058 7 ай бұрын
no a stupid general did what stupid does
@Rockin_Roll
@Rockin_Roll 7 ай бұрын
just imagine the stuff they have..... that you don't know about
@rickrickard2788
@rickrickard2788 7 ай бұрын
They knew to destroy it. They just didn't do it. It was stupidity from the very top, not a "mistake".
@paktahn
@paktahn 7 ай бұрын
or it was their way of ensuring future funding for new new aircraft like now that the east has our stealth tech in hand we need more tax dollars to keep ahead of them im sure some people high up in the pentagon made a lot off their stocks in the defense sector after that happened
@MrHamlet
@MrHamlet 6 ай бұрын
The F117 wasn't the first stealth aircraft.
@ToddBrooks-o5m
@ToddBrooks-o5m 4 ай бұрын
43 years ago .
@hans-uelijohner8943
@hans-uelijohner8943 7 ай бұрын
One can not hear an incoming missile, as they are supersonic!
@markoprvulovic2693
@markoprvulovic2693 6 ай бұрын
There is no radar guided missiles on F117
@proveritate9312
@proveritate9312 7 ай бұрын
The more things change, the more they stay the same !
@paktahn
@paktahn 7 ай бұрын
i have been saying for a while the idea of stealth is just a fad and with advances in ai i dont think it will be around much longer as ai can be coupled with irst to passively detect and track stealth aircraft to guide a missile the only defense against it would be to develop a way to jam the data link to a missile and that might not be possible on large surface launch missiles as the ai could be onboard the missile with no data link needed to guide it you would need an active point defense to defend against it like a 360 degree laser or kinetic weapon
@matovicmmilan
@matovicmmilan 6 ай бұрын
​@@paktahn Would the jamming work against the heat seeking missiles launched using an IRST?
@paktahn
@paktahn 6 ай бұрын
@@matovicmmilan if the guidance and track system are built fully into a missile there is no data link to be jammed so in reality the only way to defeat a missile using an ir seeker is to either outright dodge it which is not always doable or to spoof it with flares which is feasible now but in the future i see ai being used to process and identify what to track using cameras of multiple wavelengths and will be able to quickly tell the difference between flares and the actual target making flares useless
@bartoszbaranowski604
@bartoszbaranowski604 6 ай бұрын
DIdnt Serbs try that for 2-3 days before they got it right?
@silpharhr9791
@silpharhr9791 3 ай бұрын
wasn’t the one who brought the stealth idea to the Americans a Russian who had betrayed his country, so he bargained the Americans with his idea, which he had not presented it to his country, in exchange for American citizenship
@eriknewman5288
@eriknewman5288 6 ай бұрын
Most advanced aircraft in the world that didn't have onboard radar = not the most advanced aircraft in the world. Kinda like making a jet fighter without a gun
@gordonelwell7084
@gordonelwell7084 4 ай бұрын
Depends on the definition of advanced. What is the mission? I can point out a solar powered, electric ultralight that is one of the most advanced aircraft in the world. What is not said, but assumed, is the end of the sentence which should read ". . . for its mission type". So just saying because it didn't have onboard radar automatically means "not the most advanced aircraft in the world" is misleading at best . . .
@iVETAnsolini
@iVETAnsolini 6 ай бұрын
The j20 can be locked onto by a f-16 sniper pod so
@rogerthat4545
@rogerthat4545 6 ай бұрын
Sources?
@evankalbach9985
@evankalbach9985 6 ай бұрын
Percentages say once in a while you'll get lucky, right. This bid had a hell of a lot of missions with very very low loss so the tech worked. It is also safe to assume that the issue with future stealth has been fixed.
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy 7 ай бұрын
There's a notice?
@antiquatedflatulence1607
@antiquatedflatulence1607 7 ай бұрын
I had heard that he was shot down because he followed the same route they had used previously.
@JSFGuy
@JSFGuy 7 ай бұрын
@@antiquatedflatulence1607 That was part of it. This was complacency on the part of the planners big time. These are basic fighter / attack engagement rules you don't be predictable. This was planned this was a luck of the draw they worked for it a combination of everything lining up. If you noticed there was information leaked out, treason, informants on the inside so this all led up to that moment of opportunity.
@hecava9618
@hecava9618 4 ай бұрын
Well, its fair to ssy thst the militarys attempt to create such a craft was a success on one hand and some deficiency's on the other.. This often occurs with any weapon systems. Any mission without the other assistance aircraft was totally UNACCEPTABLE. There's no question that those who approved this mission mistake, were ordered to step down permanently.🤔
@mypuppydogtizzy1058
@mypuppydogtizzy1058 7 ай бұрын
it's simple, the wrong people always get promoted
@theldun1
@theldun1 2 ай бұрын
Allowed...? ummm I'm going to call ClickBait on this one!
@sghound
@sghound 7 ай бұрын
and now russia and china have the tech. thx murica!!
@dextermorgan1
@dextermorgan1 7 ай бұрын
This tech is 40+ years old now.
@tamahagane1700
@tamahagane1700 7 ай бұрын
Back then it was top secret tech. Critical components were promptly shipped from FR Yugoslavia to Russian Federation for thorough testing.
@sesapup
@sesapup 7 ай бұрын
It's not hard to derive if you have math. Once you know it can be done....
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 7 ай бұрын
​@@tamahagane1700china stole all the b2 tech
@tamahagane1700
@tamahagane1700 7 ай бұрын
@@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader I'm not aware they're even close to replicating B2's features. Check out their J-20 fighter, not a huge success imho.
@mortoopz
@mortoopz 6 ай бұрын
8:30 No, you're simply wrong there, think it through. _If_, repeat; IF someone figured out that ultra low band radar could pick up stealth planes, every single radar would, from then on, make regular use of ultra low band.... Which would result in a rash of stealth aircraft getting shot down..... which I for one don't recall happening. I do however remember the rumor, and every capable radar facility attempting to find stealth by using low band... but none of them ever did.... because its not true. What really happened, much more simple: The pilot had the weapon doors open to release ordinance, and opening big doors like that kinda, just a little bit, COMPLETELY f#@ks up your stealth profile.
@Friedbrain11
@Friedbrain11 7 ай бұрын
I know where those aircraft are kept. You'll have to find out for yourself.
@Gillymonster18
@Gillymonster18 7 ай бұрын
This story is disingenuous (not the channel, just this general story). If the F117 really was as vulnerable as the Serbians and this video makes it sound, then there would be no real reason to continue making stealth aircraft when all you need is a 60 year old vacuum tube radar to find them. This incident was a stroke of luck: the perfect storm of circumstances aided by complacency. If it was as simple as this tale makes it sound, then a lot more stealth bombers and fighters would have been lost to hostile fire over the years.
@EdwardFin
@EdwardFin 7 ай бұрын
Because of this incident, Russians make a sellling point of their S-400 radars FM frequencies. And you just might detect an stealth plane with that. But you also might find birds and clouds. They could propably do better with just another high frequency radar and intelligent signal processing using multiple radar stations. But the intelligent part might be more difficult for russians. Good luck with the sales after ukrainian war 😁
@Gillymonster18
@Gillymonster18 7 ай бұрын
@@EdwardFin yeah. Stealth coating is optimized to negate high frequency targeting radar (like the kind in a radar guided missile). That doesn’t mean it doesn’t affect low frequency radar, which will still be dispersed according to the physical geometry of the aircraft…so much so that to actually detect something it’s sensitivity would have to be so high as to literally see dust, thin clouds, pollen in the air etc. The only thing that might give away a stealth aircraft is the fact it’s moving several hundred miles an hour. Basically the radar going there is something “over there” and then they literally waste resources chasing clouds or a bird or something. And even if they got within Missile range, their high frequency targeting won’t work.
@rogerthat4545
@rogerthat4545 6 ай бұрын
If that's what helps you sleep.
@murder.simulator
@murder.simulator 7 ай бұрын
Remember during Panama it dropped a bomb about 2 miles from it's target in an open field? And they called it shock and awe
@rogerthat4545
@rogerthat4545 6 ай бұрын
No.
@murder.simulator
@murder.simulator 6 ай бұрын
Are you trying to gaslight? Because it did happen. Must be before your time
@KennethKustren-lr6tg
@KennethKustren-lr6tg 5 ай бұрын
Abbotsford Airshow ... F117 ... inches away from my fingertips ..... C 17 .... MIG 29 AND SU 27 N.A. DEBUT . RIGHT .
@movzfast
@movzfast 4 ай бұрын
I wonder how they would fair in Ukraine. If you're sending half a millenium old f16, might as well send f117 no?
@dillonhopson4367
@dillonhopson4367 7 ай бұрын
The sr71/a12 was the first stealth
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader
@Dread_Pirate_Homesteader 7 ай бұрын
Wasn't stealth just jamming and fast
@jason1440
@jason1440 7 ай бұрын
Airforce leadership failed just like they did in Vietnam. Flying the same predictable routs over and over.
@gordonelwell7084
@gordonelwell7084 4 ай бұрын
This.
@81bird61
@81bird61 7 ай бұрын
They still got bombed. L Serbia
@tamahagane1700
@tamahagane1700 7 ай бұрын
Some locals allegedly used F-117 structural panels for pig pens. They were flat and light, ideal for the purpose. Only later they were removed and shipped to Russia for some testing.
@ebenezerlaryea6758
@ebenezerlaryea6758 3 ай бұрын
There is something always untrue in the narratives. Do get a balanced view of history.
@jackreacher.
@jackreacher. 6 ай бұрын
p r o p a g a n d a
@dimitarpetkov4442
@dimitarpetkov4442 7 ай бұрын
Who would win: The most advanced stealth aircraft at the time vs Serbian with a bazooka
@paulyule7413
@paulyule7413 7 ай бұрын
Used in Afghanistan? Die the Afghanis have radar?
@ludikure479
@ludikure479 7 ай бұрын
Invisible???? 🤣🤣🤣
@rogerthat4545
@rogerthat4545 6 ай бұрын
Unless you already know where it's at
@ludikure479
@ludikure479 6 ай бұрын
@@rogerthat4545 Yes, we knew. Budjanovci village, Serbia.
@mmperdue
@mmperdue 7 ай бұрын
Allowed 😂 😂 😂 Incompetence
@thelmaviaduct
@thelmaviaduct 7 ай бұрын
It was stored in the Chinese embassy in Belgrade and why the spams bombed it.
@phylliswhite4154
@phylliswhite4154 6 ай бұрын
Bill Clinton is what happened...
@jamesragus1577
@jamesragus1577 7 ай бұрын
Complimentary algorithm enhancement comment!😊
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