The Hiigaran Mothership is Overpowered in Homeworld 3

[@MetalHev]

The real power is the ability to swap between banana mode and calzone mode on the fly, but thats cool too

[@NakamuraRTS]

Need something in the middle. Banzone.

[@Azathoth2980]

mode is age indicator

[@Wootmanwashere]

Think it would be neat if someone who surrendered had their mothership warp out. However, the fact that skirmish is literally parking your motherships on top of each other is weird to me. Though with my only real experience being Deserts, that might be just me...

[@riesstiu2khunning]

It does look ridiculous... Imagine if ramming was allowed! The flagships are too mobile.

[@ReginaldArthurWolfe]

They fly around like hang gliding wings. In cutscenes too. It’s a joke. Whole game is a massive let down.

[@Dragonborn1178]

@@ReginaldArthurWolfe and they have health of paper airplanes so you just spam fighters and frigets and keep spamming collecters

[@Unrealname]

Man I feel like we need larger maps. The extra resource issue would still be apparent... I wonder if it'd be a good idea to rework it entirely and find another 'gimmick' for Hiigaran mothership. That or give something equally good to the Incarnate. Hyerpspace would be cool to see reintroduced, would make large maps more dynamic like in 2.

[@Dragonborn1178]

ya dude old hw games are better im also looking for people to play the remaster online with i dont think the devs can fix all the massive issues in hw3 since there roadmap is focused on war games omg

[@mikhailfilitov1479]

yeah the only way to play 1v1 without it being shit is the large 3v3 map at 300% RU density. Then you get slightly longer matches that *can* enable some real tactics (but other times they go all in on you with their Mship).

[@yasaipicles6295]

Is this small area the actual size of the map?

[@Bashelorparty]

@@yasaipicles6295 yes its one big joke of a clusterf...k

[@Dysputant]

Why fights are done on such close range ? I remember in past battles where using warp jumps to get around map. Here you are literally fighting mothership to mothership broadsides....

[@kumarsalib722]

All the maps in HW3 are a knife fight in a phone booth. There's so little distance or travel time.

[@edwardp4038]

These are the 1v1 maps. Avoid. The 2v2 maps and 3v3 maps are much better

[@NakamuraRTS]

The reason to do it (even on the bigger maps) is that your reinforcing units will be available near the fight, rather than having to cross the map. So if you are slightly losing, you can stabilize relatively easily. And if you are winning, you can snowball your advantage.

[@liaocheng4942]

During skirmish games, as soon as i noticed that resource collectors dont have to dump money at the mothership, i just drove her to the frontline for battles and quick reinforcing. With the removal of shipyards, there isn't much strategy left in multiplayer games. No longer do you need to consider the build orders. Just rush to frigate and destroyers while splitting small forces to protect your resource collecter or harass theirs.

[@sedghammer]

I bought this largely for skirmish mode. The gameplay is not good....

[@NakamuraRTS]

Sadly it's not as good as any of the prior games. I'm mostly covering it to show issues, which hopefully result in improvements.

[@Dragonborn1178]

@@NakamuraRTS ya for those watching this comment im trying to get people to play remaster in mp matches im a newer hw player and even i know this game is crap im wanting to play some chil games in hw remaster for those people interested

[@KommandantKavu]

Visually it’s a excellent. It’s very apparent they were focused on the campaign, which ended up not really fitting well within the grander feel of the homeworld universe. It’s not awful, but it’s not great. And what people are going to get really caught up on are the really wonky CG mindspace story telling bits.. which is very weirdly animated. I feel like a 2D visual with the art of DoK or HW would work well with the audio story bits. I think it really messed up the landing.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

​@@KommandantKavui agree, especially the damn video sequences. Thdy break flow so hard.

[@8-bitbenzu529]

I had no idea sphere formation did that game needs to explain it a bit better

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

It does increase uptime of guns on target and pays for it with zero evasion.

[@Captain_Echo]

honestly just don't worry about it, anytime someone points out "oh this is too good for my liking" it messes up everything for everyone else.

[@trazyntheinfinite9895]

Youd think theyd give the not star destroyer a big gun

[@battlebunny88]

No fault on you but I really dislike how the entire match had the motherships on top of each other. Such an odd little game.

[@NakamuraRTS]

I agree, but not doing it would put you at a severe disadvantage with reinforcements taking longer to get to the fight.

[@battlebunny88]

@@NakamuraRTS It's a spam either way on those tiny maps.

[@Dragonborn1178]

@@battlebunny88 ya the game is crap spam lets all go back to homeworld remaster mp and have fun im down anytime

[@jordansawicki8638]

Nah I like hw3 just needs few tweaks and finding the meta

[@cowofschmaucasts]

The Hiigaran mothership being able to act as a collector seems like it’s meant to balance out Incarnate aggro. This game didn’t really demonstrate that because you stabilized super early and then overran, but an Incarnate player who knows what they’re doing can get multiple types of corvette tech early that can overwhelm almost everything you’re able to produce at the same timing. From what I’ve seen, matches are going to start looking very different once the playerbase wises up and people get more confident in their builds.

[@ZeroXcuses]

Looks like the game didn't last long enough for this to happen. I can't find any MP games.

[@darkrobroy14]

Loving the game as well i hope they build on it and support it even more .... cause i am tired of sc2 even though i love it

[@Fluffy-jm9mi]

First player besides myself I have seen that has caught on to sphere formation for fighters against fighters.

[@Captain_Echo]

this game uses tactics for a reason

[@ollis1270]

The mothership does not pitch down when going down? What is this

[@NakamuraRTS]

To be fair, capital ships never did in any of the games!

[@ollis1270]

I know it always annoyed me to no end, I hoped they fix that in the 3rd

[@avatarwarmech]

@@NakamuraRTS the thing is that may be true but the fighters don't even pitch down in this game they just elevate or distance

[@ThatZenoGuy]

@@NakamuraRTS Yes they absolutely did lmao, you didn't play the originals eh? Even the Kun Laan pitches.

[@kosmosfantasias7545]

It seems like the cover/megaliths are completely useless. They could've done something more with it. Such a miss opportunity.

[@Dragonborn1178]

the entire game is fucked right now so many downgrades from a 20 year old game id rather play mp on hw remaster games i tryed to like the game but the honeymoon phase dyed in 1 day for me tryed to find someting good but cant everything is spam units spam max collectors and just spam fighters and frigits not fun

[@Netherminded]

That is not how I imagined multiplayer strats would be in this game. Not exactly epic fleet clashes.

[@CHsnake]

sphere was OP in homeworld 1

[@Pcgaming2k]

Destroyer and battlecrusier need a buff Dps too low

[@r4plez]

this whole game is a mess - minimum vialble product based on nostalgia

[@Sleexb]

I haven't bought the game but this looks disappointing and silly. Two carrier parked right in each other's face, spitting out fighters that barely need to move as they trade shots. Not what I imagined

[@yasaipicles6295]

Wow, did not think that its how it is.. so silly

[@GeneticResearch]

The mothership is such as overpowered that its melt down in seconds after bomber attack.

[@Dragonborn1178]

sucks the main reason hw ustogood is now crap they cant make races balanced mp is just spam units and just cheese people old hw games were way better with hyperspace subsystems and many more

[@malakee2096]

The story and gameplay came out as disappointment.

[@tereninsecundus6084]

So let's recap: Story's a woke mess, insulting the Homeworld story and IP itself. Observer-mode for MP is broken, and serves no purpose. Tactics and strategy in MP is dumbed down to it's most basic spammable level, a sin in RTS design. Maps are small and matches quick and ships can't even behave properly. Some formations are out-right broken and don't help you, trying to keep formation when you want to is impossible. One faction is blatantly underpowered and easy to overwhelm by another... in a game with only two factions to start with. Top of all that, the game comes with an absurdly invasive, root-kit level 'anti cheat' setup that's going to be a big pain for you going forwards. This is what DIE and greedy devs do to games these days. Not pretty, that's for sure.