The historical truth of King Arthur as taught in schools, now forgotten, lost and now called myth.

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Biker Bulldogs What Makes Britain Great

13 күн бұрын

The Welsh were taught and knew of king Arthur for over a thousand years. More recently the history of king Arthur was taught in schools as a standard history subject in the last century until the educational system was changed suddenly by the English government, a subject which I will cover later. The school book shown is from circa 1908 wherein the history of king Arthur is part of the regular study curriculum. Please read ADDENDUM BELOW.
*** ADDENDUM**** Correction:
I made an error in the video-- And mentioned '1922' replacement of teachers
This was my error -I was referring to and should have mentioned 1847:
The incident I was referring to and should have mentioned was from 1847 - 'The Blue Book Reports' or the 'Treachery of the Blue Books' These were 3 blue coloured volumes published by the English Government's commissioners into the state of education in Wales and the Welsh. This resulted in the silencing of the Welsh language in schools and punishment should it be spoken. The reports were brutal. Some excerpts: p. 66, on the Welsh Language: "The Welsh language is a vast drawback to Wales, and a manifold barrier to the moral progress and commercial prosperity of the people. It is not easy to over-estimate its evil effects." The Welsh were characterised as:   'dirty, ignorant, lazy, and immoral.' After this report reforms began: Pupils that were heard speaking Welsh were handed a wooden block a Welsh 'Not' as it was called , it was worn around their neck as punishment and shame for speaking such. The 'not' was handed on to the next child that spoke Welsh and at the end of the day whoever had the not received a beating. The central point I was trying to make is that the Welsh language holds the history (Traditionally passed down orally) and the destruction of it is the destruction of history and this contains the true history of king Arthur and the ancient British line of kings. I will have to take a look into it and maybe put together a video documenting this event and its effects.
But for now enjoy this trip into real history a magical history.

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@Iwishiwasanoscarmeyerweiner
@Iwishiwasanoscarmeyerweiner 9 күн бұрын
Strange women lying in ponds distributing swords is no basis for a system of government.
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 9 күн бұрын
It certainly isn't, it is a modern misunderstanding and alteration of an ancient tradition, of ancient military men.
@mountainghoti1671
@mountainghoti1671 6 күн бұрын
I'm being OPPRESSED!
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 5 күн бұрын
​@@MikeT10101it certainly is Mike. And it was standard history lessons of those days. I have just come across new documents which are really something and a personal family story . It is superb information will upload it
@brendanstoran7555
@brendanstoran7555 5 күн бұрын
It can’t be any worse than the jokers running the country( into the ground ) atm, might actually be a good idea!😳😂
@Egg-zactly
@Egg-zactly 4 күн бұрын
If I went around saying I was an emperor just because some moistened bint lobbed a scimitar at me, they'd put me away.
@the_real_littlepinkhousefly
@the_real_littlepinkhousefly 9 күн бұрын
That's a real treasure of a book you have there. Disappointed I can't find a copy available on the interwebs anywhere. Isn't it so cool to find something so interesting!
@user-lb2pq3be5g
@user-lb2pq3be5g 9 күн бұрын
You will never find a copy unless you find a very old book shop .. that book was secretly banned many years ago
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 9 күн бұрын
Love these old books!! You can try Abe books or other similiar places try amazon/e-bay too. have a good search and you'l find it. I have a feeling these books will get more and more popular and the originals will all get bought!
@steadynumber1
@steadynumber1 3 күн бұрын
Definitely due for a reprint but guard any existing copies like the Holy Grail. 🍷❤
@honissabe
@honissabe 5 күн бұрын
Nice job. It is unsurprising that so many people believe what they have been told and do not / will not read and look at factual historical accounts. I hope your work helps to rid British History of its anti-welsh, pro-roman and saxon bs.
@steadynumber1
@steadynumber1 3 күн бұрын
To be fair, after 400 years of Roman occupation most of the indigenous held parts of Britain were inhabited by Romano Britons. By which time we had learnt Latin & an appreciation of the Roman way of life. Of course the Brythonic tongue was still prevalent, especially further west in what is now Wales, Cornwall & Cumbria. But by the time the Roman's left many were sorry to see them leave & without the protection of their army the Britons felt very vulnerable to invasion from the Saxons in the East, the Irish in the West, & the Picts in the North.
@chrisoneill3999
@chrisoneill3999 8 күн бұрын
I'd be very wary of any book which called Dyfrig Dubritius, or made him a Bishop of Caerleon (not impossible, but he was from Ergyng).
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 3 күн бұрын
At least we have reference that Dubritius is the man who is named as crowning Arthur. (and is 6th century)
@johnlawes5538
@johnlawes5538 9 күн бұрын
Really interesting, thank you
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 9 күн бұрын
Thanks John, appreciate that, please read comment reply above to correct my date error spoken in the video.
@steadynumber1
@steadynumber1 3 күн бұрын
As a seeker of Brythonic truths I value your review of this previously (to me) unknown gem. Cheers Biker Bulldogs.
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat Күн бұрын
The Biker Bulldogs say thank you sir!
@ianwheeler7513
@ianwheeler7513 2 күн бұрын
Caerleon is indeed a fortress of Roman founding, at Caerleon, there is an amphitheater which is round, it takes little imagination to see this as a round table well able to accommodate a large force of Knights/warriors.
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 2 күн бұрын
Indeed Ian! and the area of that part of S E wales was in the royal district of 'Kiburd' Which translates to 'together table' maybe I'll trace that one too.
@ianwheeler7513
@ianwheeler7513 2 күн бұрын
I also wonder what became of the hill fort leaders when the country was occupied by the Romans, those leaders could well have become the quasi royalty, there are a large amount of hill forts in the surrounding areas, it never mentions King Arthur as being of Roman decent ,plus he would have to be acceptable to a large group of the populous.
@steadynumber1
@steadynumber1 3 күн бұрын
Like the indigenous children of North America, the Welsh children of the early 20thC were forbidden from speaking their native tongue at school. In Wales any kid found speaking Welsh could be "snitched on." The only way to avoid a beating on the friday was to snitch on another Welsh speaking child. Those who were the current targets for the beating had to wear a board around their neck like some bizarre necklace. It was known as "The Welsh Knot." At least the Welsh children got to go back to hearth & home at the end of the day. Native American children were forced into boarding schools.
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 3 күн бұрын
Yes the destruction of the language and thus the history is tragic. I watched that american guy on You Tube who does languages go to Cardiff recently, he was like -wow i'm gonna learn Welsh and go speak it with the locals! he found just two people who spoke it , everyone else could not and they felt ashamed that they couldn't speak their own language. It was a heart breaking revelation of what has been done to the nation its culture and history. I shall have to cover this topic at some stage because it has had a devastating effect on the true history of Great Britain.
@twpsy634
@twpsy634 Күн бұрын
​@@WhatMakesBritainGreat He should have gone West or North to find Welsh speakers.
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat Күн бұрын
@@twpsy634 Yes, even the peeps in cardiff mentioned that, there were a couple of fluent speakers he hung out with, and funny enough him being there speaking Welsh rehabilitated the desire to speak the language in those that knew a bit but couldnt speak it , was actually both a little sad but uplifting to see the resurgence. Future does actually look bright TBH
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf
@waynemcauliffe-fv5yf 9 күн бұрын
Cheers mate
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 9 күн бұрын
Pleasure Wayne. :)
@ConradAinger
@ConradAinger 8 күн бұрын
I agree that Welsh, and English and Scottish youngsters should be taught more about their own histories. But Arthur was not an historical figure. Historians have examined this matter closely. The whole thing comes from an epic Welsh poem written centuries after the supposed events. 'Though brave, he was not Arthur' - that is all it says.
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 8 күн бұрын
Well to be frank Conrad, there are hundreds of references to Arthur in historical Manuscripts there are copious mentions of his name and that of his brothers, father, grandfather etc across stones in Wales. There are also mentions of his relatives , father and many others in the King's charters which are available to view and yes he is mentioned in many early poems. Read the Kings of Britain by the Welsh Prince and bishop Tysilio of the 6th century he describes the adventures and life of Arthur and his fellows start with that. The early kings of England all acknowledged his existence and claimed heritance, they were not making things up or acting on a myth , they wanted to be king of all Britain as he was. Yes he was a real historical figure and it's about time we stopped this 'Myth' thing that has been going around.
@ConradAinger
@ConradAinger 8 күн бұрын
@WhatMakesBritainGreat You are simply describing a successful myth. And the earliest English kings most certainly did not claim the ancestry of Arthur. Woden, more like. May I recommend to you The Cambridge History of Britain, Volume 1. Details available on Google, of course.
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 8 күн бұрын
@@ConradAinger No, I am quoting history, not myth and the early English kings did claim they were descended from Arthur: King Henry II Claimed he was heir to Arthur --it is in the written records as a matter of documented fact. And he had thousands upon thousands come visit the 'bones' of Arthur, princes, nobility, bishops, farmers, tourists, scholars, and other Kings all visited-were they all mad? (It was a falsehood that he had the bones but the bones were a point , an item of huge power why would the King of England claim he was Arthur's heir and possessed his bones?) Why did the Britons -the Welsh talk of Arthur as their previous King? Are an entire people deluded? An entire country of people were insane? pretended they had a king who never existed? Why too did the English talk of Arthur as a previous king? are they too all deluded? and why was Henry afraid of another uprising from the Britons because of the memories of previous victories and rule of Arthur, when he was king of all Briton? And another English King Edward the 1st --exactly the same deal --He claimed he was just like Arthur. These are real events all recorded but clearly not in the Cambridge guide to history.
@ConradAinger
@ConradAinger 8 күн бұрын
@WhatMakesBritainGreat That you regard Henry 2nd as an early English king is revealing. In conventional historical discourse early English King's are those of the Anglo-Saxons in the 5th and 6th centuries. Henry was a Norman king. He did not even speak English, and knew nothing of events 700 years earlier. His identification with 'Arthur' was simply a convention of the time. There are no contemporaneous references to Arthur. There are references in British ( Welsh or Celtic) literature to various figures. In Gildas, for instance. But not to Arthur. Nor does early English literature mention such an individual. Nor is there any archaeological evidence for Arthur. The earliest reference to him comes from Nennius, writing in the 8th. If there were any evidence then, believe me ( I am a history graduate), historians would accept it. Indeed they would be delighted to.
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 8 күн бұрын
@@ConradAinger You are quite right Conrad, I should have not said 'English king' but 'king of England' which both Henry and Edward were. That doesn't change King Henry's statement. Nor does it change what the thousands of people at that time thought of Arthur and what the Welsh school curriculum was teaching for many years -so were the administrators that wrote the school history curriculum deluded? Were they making up figures from history? --if so I shall certainly throw away the 1908 Welsh history school book. In the 'History of Gwent' in the above book Arthur is listed as King of Gwent. (even wikipeadia lists him as King of Gwent) king Iddon is cited, he is a real 6th century figure, St Teilo, Dubritious, all real 6th cent'y people. And King Maelgwn again a real listed king. Arthur is mentioned in many other scripts yet no one seems in the slightest bothered and every script is dubbed 'Curious' and 'spurious' I'm speaking of the Annals of Wales in the British museum and St Tysilios MSS. I honestly am beginning to think people refuse to see what is in front of their face.
@davidcooke8059
@davidcooke8059 9 күн бұрын
Not sure where the idea comes from that Welsh teachers were replaced by English teachers (in 1922?)
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 9 күн бұрын
Hi David, thanks for saying, that was my error, I mis-spoke and mixed up dates, I must have been thinking of something else. The incident I was referring to and should have mentioned was from 1847 - 'The Blue Book Reports' or the 'Treachery of the Blue Books' These were 3 blue coloured volumes published by the English Government's commissioners into the state of education in Wales and the Welsh. This resulted in the silencing of the Welsh language in schools and punishment should it be spoken. The reports were brutal. Some excerpts: p. 66, on the Welsh Language: "The Welsh language is a vast drawback to Wales, and a manifold barrier to the moral progress and commercial prosperity of the people. It is not easy to over-estimate its evil effects." The Welsh were characterised as:   'dirty, ignorant, lazy, and immoral.' After this report reforms began: Pupils that were heard speaking Welsh were handed a wooden block a Welsh 'Not' as it was called , it was worn around their neck as punishment and shame for speaking such. The 'not' was handed on to the next child that spoke Welsh and at the end of the day whoever had the not received a beating. The central point I was trying to make is that the Welsh language holds the history (Traditionally passed down orally) and the destruction of it is the destruction of history and this contains the true history of king Arthur and the ancient British line of kings. I will have to take a look into it and maybe put together a video documenting this.
@davidcooke8059
@davidcooke8059 9 күн бұрын
@@WhatMakesBritainGreat -are you Welsh and speak Welsh?
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 9 күн бұрын
@@davidcooke8059 No, born, raised in London. Why do you ask?
@davidcooke8059
@davidcooke8059 8 күн бұрын
@@WhatMakesBritainGreat - because you’re saying that Welsh history has been wiped out. Seems an odd thing to say if you’re English
@chrisoneill3999
@chrisoneill3999 8 күн бұрын
Brad y Llyfrau Gleision.
@user-om5lm3en4b
@user-om5lm3en4b 9 күн бұрын
Great video, today I've learnt something. My grandfather's first language was Welsh but later as you have stated that language was almost eradicated by the English. I too would like a copy of that book. As the old Celtic was spoken and not a written language the Bards would have told long tales around the fires in halls and campfires long before Geoffrey of Monmouth put pen to paper, shame they were lost. It always amazes me that the historians haven't considered why there are river Avons in England as the name for river in Welsh is afon. You don't need to be a mastermind candidate to see the connection. The area around the Bristol Avon was only taken by the AngloSaxons after a battle in 577AD probably 50 years or more after the legendary battle of Mons Badonicus which Arthur destroyed the Saxon army. You can almost hear a psychopathic Celtic warlord telling the defeated Saxon leader that if they crossed to Afon (Avon after years of mispronunciation and spelling) there would be trouble.
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 9 күн бұрын
So glad you enjoyed it Morgan. Yes! it was a spoken tradition, and a very involved and exact method far as I can see, of keeping history, telling tales of kings and events. That's why it's so important to keep it alive and pure if the ancient tales are to be kept as they've been passed down over centuries, something unique to Wales. You have just clarified something for me too. Which gives me an idea for another video. :)
@stigkrakpants3052
@stigkrakpants3052 9 күн бұрын
''Avon'' was not a mispronunciation. Considering the settlements the Welsh speakers had all over Great Britain it is surprising so few remain today, Cumbria and Aberdeen to name a couple. But in many places the valleys and lowlands were wild and unused, it took the AngloSaxons and their superior farming methods to clear the forests, while the Welsh stayed on the hills. This can be seen in village names in places such as Somerset and Oxen. Sadly the Irish and English were too powerful and removed the Welsh culture.
@stigkrakpants3052
@stigkrakpants3052 9 күн бұрын
a lot of this 'information' must come from Bede and the AngloSaxon chronicles, there is so much we don't know. And to say that the Scots attacked Welsh land in the 6th century from Ireland seems odd, i have never heard that before, the Scots would have attacked Strathclyde and Cumbria from Scotland, which is why the Welsh wanted English mercenaries to crush the Scots.
@susanc4622
@susanc4622 5 күн бұрын
The ‘Scoti’ were from Ireland, I believe. Read medieval history many years ago and recall the tutor pointing that out.
@stigkrakpants3052
@stigkrakpants3052 Күн бұрын
@@susanc4622 yes the scoti killed and displaced the welsh, the irish should be sent back to Spain. Then the scoti left Ireland attacked and killed the Picts. But they couldn't defeat the Angles of Scotland, the Northumbrians
@unaperrson
@unaperrson 6 күн бұрын
Baram Blackett and Alan Wilson have researched this extensively.
@davidcooke8059
@davidcooke8059 6 күн бұрын
If you believe that you probably believe in UFOs
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 3 күн бұрын
Yes Alan Wilson was a genius. This channel which I have just started, is for my 'What Makes Britain great book' the biker bulldogs, is going to cover British achievements, when compiling info for the book I needed history definitions, data etc and despite reading through many articles no one seemed to be able to make a decision and state clearly : the origin of the term 'Britain' etc etc , I looked at the old records and thought wow! then discovered the historians and writers kept calling the ancient scholars fiction writers/fantasists etc ... No one would take any responsibility whatsoever, then I came across Alan Wilson's work. He spent his life doing the work for free that the historians , paid, should have done. This history of these islands is clearly important to the Brits so I started with these videos. Thanks for watching. :) Dave.
@davidcooke8059
@davidcooke8059 3 күн бұрын
@@WhatMakesBritainGreat - this sums up what’s known about Arthur kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4aqlKinfMitoNUsi=oZX093g-fkypUOr1
@randywise5241
@randywise5241 9 күн бұрын
I knew he had to be a Welchman.
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 9 күн бұрын
Yep--King of Glamorgan and Gwent ! High king of Briton.
@stigkrakpants3052
@stigkrakpants3052 9 күн бұрын
nobody, certainly not the Welsh use the word Welch. It is more offensive than saying Welsh
@DavidHoins
@DavidHoins 7 күн бұрын
Never was proven so just another British myth the make believe king Arthur was as real as Sherlock Holmes 😂😂
@honissabe
@honissabe 5 күн бұрын
his existence is well-documented in historical records including the Llandaff Charters. It is all available to read. The only myth is that he was a mythological character, or that he was not Welsh.
@CobinRain
@CobinRain 5 күн бұрын
Quite untrue. In the world of actual historians the gold standard is contemporary sources…..things written while the events they describe were going on. And there are two references to Arthur in the Easter annals in one of the monasteries in the west of England. In these monks were in the habit of writing a short line or two at the end of each year as they recorded the dates that Easter had happened. The two Arthur references are separated by about 20 years. One records him described as a “Dux Bellorum”….maybe translate as “Field Marshal” ? sort of idea winning a battle at a place named as “Mons Badonicus”…unidentified but maybe Badon Hill in the West of England. In Dorset. The other Easter annal line simply tells us that he has been killed. And a man called “Modred” also named..All a bit thin but the period is referred to as the “Dark Ages” for a reason.
@CobinRain
@CobinRain 5 күн бұрын
@@honissabeGood comment.
@davidcooke8059
@davidcooke8059 5 күн бұрын
@@honissabe - this very neatly sums up what is actually known about “King Arthur” kzbin.info/www/bejne/j4aqlKinfMitoNUsi=W_wmCp08eSWqpOs6
@WhatMakesBritainGreat
@WhatMakesBritainGreat 3 күн бұрын
@@CobinRain That is true (contemt'y sources) but a look into Welsh history will show one the continued destruction of Welsh records by the English. There are enough references available to see that Arthur was real, the fact that he is the most famous king in history is a clue, people seem to forget the obvious, it takes a study of the Welsh histories and what happened to the Welsh, and a proper understanding of the Welsh oral traditions, methods, exact recitals etc . His name mentioned in royal charters and that of his relations is clear as day it astounds me that the historians aren't chasing down any other material when clearly this man is recorded.
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