The History of Ad Nauseam Decks | MTG Deck History #5

[@demilembias2527]

makes me miss roughly 2004-2009 where magic art was often unapologetically surreal, otherworldly, and grotesque (especially in time spiral and lorwyn / shadowmoor). I started playing magic around that time as a young kid and before then all I really knew were Yugioh and Pokemon, so magic had a reputation to me as a very edgy and dark card game.

[@SisypheanSeas13]

Completely agree, I started playing because of the art.

[@dickkickem4238]

Honestly a lot of OG ravnica had a lot of art in that same vein. Also mirrodin while not really dark, had some fantastic surreal hand panted sci-fi art that are still my favorite in the game.

[@demilembias2527]

@@SisypheanSeas13 the first rare I ever got in a pack was Cold-Eyed Selkie in Eventide and it creeped the hell out of me. I still really like Lorwyn / Shadowmoor's aesthetic and hope we get another set on that plane someday. I especially like the cycle of those 10 dual colored avatars, they were so fantastically strange and mysterious.

[@n.m5253]

@@demilembias2527 Lorwyn/Shadowmoor had astonishing art! Even the basics were absolutely gorgeous. I love the art of evershrike!

[@jakubnovotny3864]

This is a big problem nowadays imo, cause the art looks the same. I really miss those times when I opened Kamigawa and saw all the great pieces of art there 😔

[@mikechurchill1071]

Awesome that LSV got back to you and was able to a some info about why the card was in the SB and what he brought it in against that’s awesome!!!

[@MindGameArcade]

most ambitious crossover in magic history

[@holotori_senior_admin_teno]

One of those decks/cards I'd heard of but knew nothing about. So extremely interesting!

[@Octinsky]

ok weirdo

[@justinisorange]

How have you never heard of ad nauseam

[@holotori_senior_admin_teno]

@@justinisorange I had heard of it, as was said. I just knew nothing about the decks using it.

[@justinisorange]

@@holotori_senior_admin_teno oh oops sorry

[@666Metalbassist]

Ad nauseam is the menace of cEDH tables everywhere

[@mightyone3737]

Depends how many Rule of Law are run in your pod's decks. I've seen lists with it as a 4 of, but that was mono-white.

[@xarshoon7157]

@@mightyone3737 he was talking about cEDH

[@jacobbarbee386]

I can already hear Tasha's Hideous Laughter as they scoop. Byebye O-rings!

[@trevorkidwell4417]

@@xarshoon7157 yes, Rule of Law is the premier cEDH counter-archetype to Turbo Naus currently.

[@xarshoon7157]

@@trevorkidwell4417 I know he was talking about 4 Rule of Law in the same decklist

[@TheGloriousLobsterEmperor]

This is one of those decks that I have absolutely no idea how it works, so interesting video helping me learn some things!

[@nickbalmes6640]

Same here my friend

[@TheyCallHimPogo]

That's what got me exicted about this series too.

[@MrQlzqlzuup]

Okay, that art _is_ deeply disturbing.

[@crovax1375]

For some reason Peer into the Abyss freaks me out more than Ad Nauseam does

[@Argetbrisingr101]

I feel like it should be mentioned that Ad Nauseum is also an eponymous card of one of the most common cedh archetypes.

[@chernoalpha3445]

Been super pleased with this series. Goblins, eldrazi, and Tron I understood and just enjoyed hearing about their evolution. This deck I've never had a clue, but I know I'd heard ad nauseam, well, ad nauseam, and now, thanks to you I actually know what the damn thing does. I feel legit educated

[@whorekitty3270]

Great video as always! I wish you had talked a bit more about how the modern iteration of ad naus has evolved even more since the printing of thasa's oracle, and then the banning of simean spirit guide!

[@LocalChamp]

This is a very timely video with the deck seeing more play again with the release of Profane Tutor.

[@jfire6194]

As a cedh player I love to hear how ad naus does in 20 life formats

[@God-ch8lq]

simple, run a ton of 0 mana artifacts, such as the (legacy legal) moxen, lotus petals, lion's eye diamonds and 1 mana rituals (dark ritual, rite of flame) and cantrips (brainstorm, ponder, preordain), run 4 copies of wishclaw talisman (a tutor which can search up adnoz after activating LED), 1 copy of echo of eons, 4 copies of burning wish (ur wincon and silver bullets are in the sideboard) if i had a penny for every time i won on turn 1, i could buy this deck in paper)

[@_Astrum]

Special mention for cedh where ad naus has been one of the best spells for a while

[@alejandrorivas4585]

Frankly, I want it gone. My local cedh weekly, literally every single fucking deck has ad naus and or demonic consultation. To the point where its literally who gets their ad naus off first wins. Its the most boring fucking stupid combo. And yes I know, cedh its only about the win

[@andrewsegers7942]

That new mic sounds fantastic. Thanks again for all the great content.

[@aklepatzky]

No mention to the SSS ban and how affected the deck? Also the inclusion of Thassas oracle?

[@666Metalbassist]

It probably just didnt come up in pro tour event. I think naseum have been fringe for awhile.

[@krazykylelapointe2710]

I've never looked at the art so closely before fml

[@banamanane]

Can you make a video on sliver decks? When I was playing as a kid counter sliver was the coolest deck ever and i traded most of my cards for a sliver queen..

[@SmugLookingBarrel]

It's also worth noting that Ad Nauseum is a key card to powering a lot of the best competitive commander decks.

[@eugeniob9516]

Oh my.. the swan of bryn argoll!!! I had totally forgotten about them! What a fantastic card!

[@gqphoenixclops3056]

Ad Nauseum into Tendrils was the first time I watched Legacy Worlds and man, I never miss it since.

[@emperornapoleon6204]

I remember playing against Ad Nauseam in modern for the first time at my LGS. I was wrecked😂

[@GDPanda69]

Ad Nauseam has literally been the picture that flashes into my mind before I walk over to my son's room and ask him to close his door as he's RIPPING through legos while I'd trying to be working from home over this past year+...

[@nickalasmontano1496]

Excellent video as always!

[@NizzahonMagic]

Glad you enjoyed it!

[@werbearjack]

That art though - nightmare fuel.

[@RafaelAAMerlo]

Awesome series! Just a mention: I know that cEDH doesn't fit the criteria for not having official tournaments but as my favourite format I feel people must be aware of the powerhouse this is over there :P

[@ryankim1999]

Would love to see dredge on the polls

[@NizzahonMagic]

It will get there. I'm thinking of saving graveyard decks for October.

[@GalvanicChoir]

5:44 Darien Elderfield is a badass name and I WILL be stealing it for dnd campaigns

[@Elbeano]

I forgot all about Cascade Swans, that deck was a blast to pilot

[@Rachel-im6yc]

I like the thing your channel has with cardkingdom. you show off a cool deck, i go see how much it costs on cardkingom. its a beautiful engine.

[@mistervader]

Pretty surprised this wasn't mentioned in VIntage, considering how it was one of the "cheapest" decks to build at a time when 5-proxy Vintage was the norm for SCG's Power 9 series.

[@Syaska]

Some decks I'd like to see: Suicide Black Merfolk Stompy Slivers Maybe impact of cards with certain mechanics like the history of cumulative upkeep and decks it has featured in like Trix

[@UsrnamePending]

Out of curiosity, how many points does Ad Nauseam have by your point system?

[@TheAverageGuyTAG]

Lol, I actually use Ad Nauseam in my EDH (not cEDH) deck to reload my hand at instant speed. My deck's average MV is pretty low and I have lots of ways to gradually gain life, so I can probably grab a fistful of cards and not be hurt too badly on average.

[@Bryce4Belle]

I haven't seen those played in some time.

[@leonidascorrea]

What about Thassa's Oracle update and the ban of the Simian Spirit Guide?? I feel the lack the this information disturbing. I will get this art tattoo

[@elliotthood1719]

3:40 Hit our swans, draw some cards, Hit our swans, draw some cards,

[@Earthboundmike]

Ah so lab maniac and flumph are gonna be besties.

[@nickp2070]

Sweet video thanks!

[@atlys258]

For how creepy and disturbing it's art is, it remains one of my favorite pieces of art in all of MtG. Also find it interesting that pretty much since the day it was printed, that it birthed a top-tier legacy deck that's remained largely unchanged.

[@faerie7dragon]

Amazing art, effect and flavor text. PD: I can't believe LSV answered your question! Such a humble champion.

[@rareroe305]

As soon as I saw it, I thought "Ad Nauseum plus lots of rituals or 0 or 1 CMC cards, plus Tendrils of Agony?"

[@rfs8194]

With Phyrexian Unlife, it becomes creepy art tribal.

[@UwURainUwU]

BUT NIZZAHON, WILL THEY KNOW YOU SENT ME THERE?!

[@altairacalen]

I love this deck so much. But when Simian Spirit Guide got banned, the whole deck changed and now they play Thassa’s Oracle. I’m really curious on how that version of the deck plays.

[@mikechurchill1071]

Should have added Ad Naus/tendrils for legacy as the deck has changed quite a bit from 2009 some use burning wish to get the tendrils some dont and have it main board instead. I think Tes and Ad naus/tendrils are similar but differnt deck and could both be called storm!!

[@zackpumpkinhead8882]

Just watched Andrea Mengucci's play of this deck recently. And a couple folks in the chat just didn't know how the deck worked! That made me sad.

[@TheRazz1717]

Do Lantern Control

[@mr.mammuthusafricanavus8299]

I like using Ad Nauseum in my Willowdusk deck :P

[@TBtree45]

This is great content!!

[@officialbusy]

Ty for this

[@makenshao9886]

I figure it's because there's better decks to use her, but how come Ad Nauseum hasn't been played more now that Thassa's Oracle a thing? Wouldn't that be more reliable that both Lightning Storm and Laboratory Maniac?

[@CanadianBaconPwnage]

It is currently playing Thassa's Oracle, and the deck has been putting up results in Modern Challenges over the past couple of weeks.

[@whorekitty3270]

If you go back and look at the deck list around the printing of thasa's you'll see nearly every list adopt her, and ad naus started to put up more top tops 8s on mtgo n such. Now with the banning of ssg, thasa's is our only real win con sadly.

[@makenshao9886]

@@whorekitty3270 Yeah, I went to search for it right after I posted it. Like you said that'd have been a nice thing to mention more in depth since ssg's departure (and FL tangentially) hit these type of combo decks very hard. I guess it's just cause the deck is on the fringe that Niz didn't elaborate that the deck is still evolving compared to his other archetype videos.

[@aklepatzky]

@@makenshao9886 i was surprised too that Nizza didnt mention thassa either

[@kaisergunter983]

Watching this or Loki before school was a hard decision

[@dingdongs5208]

Do aether vial decks!

[@ggpt9641]

In this video... a non EDH deck with 40 lands. Welcome to Ad Naus.

[@God-ch8lq]

ahhhh ad nauseum, aka blackjack in magic

[@crooker23]

really evocative art, perfect representation of the function of the card

[@jeffreynowak8866]

Do all the DeX eventually

[@itzybitzyspyder]

Teferi's protection.

[@viniciusbraga5698]

Legacy storm decks are completely different from the list you presented in the video. It would be nice do show an updated one

[@NizzahonMagic]

Legacy Storm decks that use Ad Nauseam are not exactly "completely different" than the 2009 version I showed. The deck is still made up of Ad Nauseam, Rituals, Fast Mana, ways to keep the opponent from interacting, and tutors. You're right that there is some change for sure, but going on and on about the deck (ad Nauseam, if you will...) just to say "It uses Discard Spells and Flusterstorm now instead of Orim's Chant" would be a bit much.

[@oliverwilson11]

It's a history video. You wouldn't watch a video about the history of cars and say "this is stupid, cars don't look like that anymore". That's the point.

[@GarciLP]

I've been loving this series, but I have to say, I feel the Modern research into the deck fell a bit flat for me. There was no mention of how the deck was impacted by the SSG ban (no real mention of SSG at all, really, which is how the deck usually cast Lightning Storm) and how it has evolved to play around Thassa's Oracle. This one felt rushed. Again - love the content, but this one could have been better

[@NizzahonMagic]

Yeah, Oracle and Simian Spirit Guide are definitely things I could have gone into when I talked about Modern.

[@iamasalad9080]

Are you a shapeshifter? Do you have changeling?

[@alasanof]

Ad Nauseam doesn't actually draw the cards, so you can safely just flip the deck over into your hand.

[@stefanoriva9767]

This archetype... Gave me nauseam!

[@Jaypes1]

hello

[@sshim950]

: )

[@shikabaneconga]

i dont think ppl like ad nauseum decks theyre too repetitive did you get it?

[@SisypheanSeas13]

No please explain No please explain

[@caseyewing6641]

Like second or something I have no clue

[@bastienclarke1810]

Gross art.

[@mattblom3990]

Man, Splinter Twin. I remember when I bought a playset of those for $0.50 only to find out later the card meant something beyond casual.

[@drinkinssstuff1296]

hi

[@peterklein3354]

:( wee have history of nauseaam before history of mill? :(

[@majinflo4928]

It´s crazy how well educated you are when it comes to MTG´s history. Especially if you think about how bad you are in the game itself.

[@shaftlamer]

ad nausem deck with ad nausem in the sideboard. ok

[@NizzahonMagic]

I didn't say it WAS an Ad Nauseam deck, but I think talking about the first time anyone used it at all was worthwhile.

[@shaftlamer]

@@NizzahonMagic I didnt say you said it. dont be so neurotic.

[@oliverwilson11]

@@shaftlamer Yes you did. First you lied about what the video said then you lied about lying. You can't just lie and not expect people to correct you

[@shaftlamer]

@@oliverwilson11 such lie. Wow.

[@yosoyyod2001]

Now wizards ban cards cause of "ofensive art" What a mistake.

[@TheSquareOnes]

Are you talking about Invoke Prejudice from over a year ago? That card has long been a meme for being so ridiculously over the top and I'm not sure anyone ever actually played with it anyway, doesn't seem like much of a mistake. It seems weird to hold this grudge for so long, maybe channel that frustration into something that matters like power creep and rarity imbalances.

[@JamDonut11]

Imprison's art is absolutely horrible and it's a good thing it was banned. Only card I'm mad about was Crusade because it's an actually playable card, especially in EDH.

[@yosoyyod2001]

@@TheSquareOnes it's a mistake since no one was really bothered by it and it did'nt even harm anyone by simply existing in the format. It is a mistake, wizards was just afraid of some snowflake getting offended for no reason by it.

[@captainshiner42]

Ok, snowflake.

[@yosoyyod2001]

@@captainshiner42 :0