The history of cloud rap - hip hop's most influential subgenre?

[@cchefkoch]

If you want to get into cloud rap these are my recommendations: Black Kray - Thug Angel Chris Travis - Pizza & Codeine Yung Lean - Unknown Memory Lucki - Watch My Back $uicideboy$ - South Side Suicide Playboi Carti - Playboi Carti Lil B - 6 Kiss THANK YOU BASED GOD

[@EJjustanut]

Incredible list. you have great tatse !

[@FORGOTENMUSIC2024]

no nasa gang or blvcklvnd rvdix is crazy

[@cchefkoch]

@@FORGOTENMUSIC2024 listening to SGP as an introduction to cloud rap is difficult tho, you gotta have an advanced music taste to appreciate his records

[@mstifye-ibb]

@@cchefkoch hes a more of a phonk artist anyway

[@danielsmokesmids]

@@FORGOTENMUSIC2024 ive been listening to cloud rap for many years and still havent gotten 90% of SGP’s music to click for me. terror gang’s the only one that i really fully got. i also don’t feel like it’s bad, i just always felt like i was at too low of a power level to listen.

[@evusdaes]

The early Cloudtrap scene is the reason why i got into Hip Hop in the first place, I think this is also a reason why a lot of outsiders got into hip hop in general - Artists like Lean and Rocky kind of bridged the gap between the mainstream and the underground. Also crazy how so many new subgernes are essentially cloudtrap derrivatives - In a way it has just evolved into these other subgenres, while the Gap for more "Classical" cloudtrap is filled by artists such as Smokedope2016

[@cchefkoch]

Amazing, me too! I got into english speaking rap through Yung Lean and Night Lovell ^^. And its really crazy how far cloud rap's influence reaches for the entirety of contemporary hip hop. It's always downplayed as that edgy drugged out mumble rap genre but its so much more than that.

[@papaspooks8531]

im not god but i wish i was by smokedope2016 is such an insanely good song. love to see him get mentioned

[@cchefkoch]

@@papaspooks8531 man I love smokedope, he‘s the best newcomer out of 2024 for me

[@Alex-vm6ef]

I think cloud rap got a lot of people into hip hop bc of the online nature of it. Rather than being from an actual place w/ a culture that was referenced in the music, it pulled largely from the culture of online which people all around the globe shared.

[@cchefkoch]

@@Alex-vm6ef a very valid point. Cloud rap wasn't tied to a specific city, so it immediately started to spread around the globe via social media for example

[@k2a2l2]

clams casino and friendzone really the goats of modern hiphop

[@cchefkoch]

@@k2a2l2 and we stand on that 🤝

[@danielsmokesmids]

cloud rap will forever be one of my favorite genres along with emo rap. theres something just so special about the 2010s and im glad i was around for it. i was too young to really understand most of it till like 2018 but the fact that it happened while i was alive still makes me feel very attached to it

[@cchefkoch]

@@danielsmokesmids I feel you on that, I was too young to actually experience Lil B‘s or Rocky‘s rise in the industry but I did my research afterwards and fell in love with the subgenre

[@adturnup3296]

great video bro! I was glad to see icytwat in this video. He and carti heavily inspired me to make atmospheric, ethereal beats from the start of my music production and as year’s flying by, I progressively gotten better. Def wanna see cloud rap come back again. subbed ! 💙

[@cchefkoch]

@@adturnup3296 yooo thats so cool to hear, I love Icytwats production as well! Thanks for your support and keep dropping fire beats 🫂

[@adturnup3296]

@@cchefkoch fasho bro 🤞🏾

[@EJjustanut]

I would kill to hear a cloud rap album with Jazz Rap elements like ATCQ or Pharcyde. Literally be a symphony from the heavens 🙌

[@cchefkoch]

@@EJjustanut oh my god yes that would sound heavenly 🙏🏼

[@yung.alchemist]

Listen to clouddead, not exactly what you're looking for because they are more experimental than anything else but they literally are the first people to even attempt any of this. Listen to Apt A by clouddead

[@nativemerc]

Listen to Ruben slikk - king astro slikk the magnificent and lofty305 - basehead cap. you won’t regret it

[@fl0pium]

I love how u really showcase so many artists from the entire timeline, especially was hyped for smokedope cus he got me back into that scene and I discovered Tracy and stuff like that through his style of music. Great video

[@cchefkoch]

@@fl0pium I tried to include every artist I could think of, this therefore really was my most time-consuming video to make but it was a lot of fun and worth it if I can introduce others to the genre, cloud rap is for everyone!

[@joonashapponen2384]

Smokedope is crazy good. The come up is probably one of the best albums last year. The whole atmosphere is very heavy and relaxed with a lethargic delivery.

[@silvergardens7131]

Cities Aviv mention blew my mind

[@rishavfash1r]

great video

[@cchefkoch]

thank you very much!

[@nxvqh]

should’ve included CCOAK for black kray and specifically Hydrocodons 😭 but I still fw the video it’s very informational

[@cchefkoch]

@@nxvqh yes true I completely forgot about that tape, thanks!

[@meowraiu2]

awesome summation of the genre and its frontrunners, man. loved this

[@cchefkoch]

thank you, I really appreciate that!

[@rilostar]

No mentions of oliver francis is insane! Great video brother keep it up 😊

[@cchefkoch]

yes bro I should have included him but I forgot about him

[@giklandg8171]

Rocky should have his own section frfr

[@Danny66455]

This is an amazing video bro I strongly encourage you to keep making them 💯

[@cchefkoch]

@@Danny66455 yessir I got you

[@prod_toonami]

goated video 👷 keep it up

[@cchefkoch]

thank you so much!

[@swagworkineveryfunction]

its crazy that i listened to every single artist at the time and i was like 13

[@swagworkineveryfunction]

bro ur music is fire 🔥🔥

[@swagworkineveryfunction]

thank u

[@cchefkoch]

@@swagworkineveryfunction youre welcome

[@rar3lotus]

Bro u are such a goat for mentioning lil Bo weep. Still listen to her to this day 🔥🔥🕊️🕊️

[@cchefkoch]

@@rar3lotus she deserves so much more love in the industry 🕊️

[@inferiordior]

Should’ve brought up Freewave 1 or X by Lucki or Lucki Eck$ era . Those were his full length cloud rap tapes

[@cchefkoch]

@@inferiordior alright, thanks for the correction!

[@likin_gmd]

Sehr gute Video, du brauchst mehr Aufrufen

[@cchefkoch]

danke bro

[@StereoSantana]

This channel is a gem, thank you for the video G

[@cchefkoch]

@@StereoSantana I really appreciate that, thank you for watching!

[@eliasca]

you deserve way more views! WTF great video

[@cchefkoch]

@@eliasca thank you bro I really appreciate that

[@TravisBickle-lm2ws]

Hätte nicht gedacht, dass jemand deutsches so ein gutes Video machen kann! Bitte mach weiter so! Lass mal connecten, ich brauche Musik Vorschläge xD

[@cchefkoch]

@@TravisBickle-lm2ws hahaha danke dir und können wir gerne machen, benutzt du Discord?

[@TravisBickle-lm2ws]

@@cchefkoch yes selten, aber ja

[@cchefkoch]

@@TravisBickle-lm2ws adde mich mal, heiße karl5k (ansonsten drop dein Insta oder so, geht auch)

[@TravisBickle-lm2ws]

@@cchefkoch jaroslavzv

[@younglamby2638]

Great video, added so much songs thanks to u!

[@cchefkoch]

@@younglamby2638 I got you 🤝

[@daslios]

man I wish I was tapped in with the underground when I was in middle school

[@cchefkoch]

@@daslios true I feel you on that

[@houstilicious]

lowkey the most important genre of the 2010s

[@cchefkoch]

@@houstilicious for sure

[@mac2541]

most def

[@13unty]

Very informative video! Great work! Will check out some of the recommendations!

[@cchefkoch]

@@13unty thank you very much and please do!

[@Krigorn]

With Gigi Masin, you can def add Moments In Love by Art of Noise (1984)

[@poopooman-q7r]

this is such a cool video bro

[@cchefkoch]

@@poopooman-q7r thank you!

[@Takesumbeenstealin]

Great video actually 10/10

[@cchefkoch]

@@Takesumbeenstealin appreciate you!

[@tf2mikeyguy898]

rlly well made video

[@cchefkoch]

@@tf2mikeyguy898 thank you so much!

[@KedousY]

Great Video! You definitely put a lot of research into it! I believe should've mentioned James Ferrero as some of his albums, under BEBETUNE$/Bodyguard, had cloud rap elements that influenced drain gang and vaporwave as a whole. This video made me realize how versatile cloud rap can actually be.

[@cchefkoch]

@@KedousY thank you, I‘ll check them out!

[@svarmor]

good video bro i fw it

[@cchefkoch]

@@svarmor thank you gang

[@styck8721]

great video i love you

[@cchefkoch]

@@styck8721 I love you too boss

[@austinbanana8275]

Fav subgenre

[@cchefkoch]

@@austinbanana8275 Same bro

[@dojomcfaddinswagswagswagswag]

geiles video keep up the grind

[@cchefkoch]

danke dir!

[@10k-28]

Well done 👍

[@cchefkoch]

@@10k-28 thank you 🤝

[@inferiordior]

Would you ever make a video about Tread ?

[@cchefkoch]

@@inferiordior yes!

[@thisisjj9396]

amazing to hear eric dingus get his praise in this video

[@cchefkoch]

@@thisisjj9396 yessir, he deserves more recognition

[@GURKENGOTT]

W video all my goats mentioned

[@cchefkoch]

lets gooo

[@Yungmarshmaster]

Interesting that you mentioned Peggy’s early work, never really viewed it that way. Usually I’d make more of a connection between Dreamcast summer songs and vaporwave coming up at that time

[@cchefkoch]

@@Yungmarshmaster I see, that’s also an interesting take!

[@nativemerc]

Idk if necessarily influential but I recommend listening to bowery electric - beat from 1996. it’s more shoegaze/trip hop but it still has that hypnotic/ethereal sound

[@cchefkoch]

very interesting, I feel you on that, maybe we can also add some Hiroshi Yoshiruma to the discussion for that ethereal production

[@nativemerc]

@@cchefkoch Facts. ambient music has a lot of tie in’s. just throw some trap drums over it and you got cloud rap

[@thenoah23]

Only here to make sure Main Attrakionz got their flowers

[@cchefkoch]

yessir, they will get their own separate video on this channel soon

[@JETHEREALXIV]

@@cchefkochYessss they NEED a video about them

[@cchefkoch]

@@JETHEREALXIV I got you

[@yung.alchemist]

This is me but with cLOUDDEAD

[@thenoah23]

@ i actually performed with clouddead a few times. It’s a different type of cloud rap to keep it 100 but I’m a big fan of anticon era too

[@shadowgangfilms9363]

If you listen to pop music shifted to a more lush sound around 2016 I would argue it is one of the most influential subgenres as a whole

[@cchefkoch]

interesting take, it would make sense for real!

[@shadowgangfilms9363]

@@cchefkoch could you possibly give my SoundCloud a listen fam I’ll send you a link, I have an album dropping this month or next month that is a cross between emo rap it’s actually pretty fire

[@JETHEREALXIV]

new cloud rap documentary video dropped ❤

[@cchefkoch]

@@JETHEREALXIV you know it 🤞

[@galoorozco3314]

anybody got a playlist of all the songs he mentioned they’re so good

[@cchefkoch]

@@galoorozco3314 there are some great Spotify playlists on Spotify I think 👍🏼

[@x6vision]

u missed x6vision

[@apersononurphone920]

bro went from total obscurity, to viper, to asap rocky. lil more to it than that

[@cchefkoch]

@@apersononurphone920 who did I forget?

[@AlE2001-REACTION]

Cloud rap more videos want bro interesting ❤

[@cchefkoch]

just uploaded a video on Main Attrakionz, check it out :)

[@appainkréussi]

sgp and lucki the greatest ong

[@sjelvgrenfritte6936]

I think Oliver Francis should have atleast been mentioned in this video

[@cchefkoch]

youre right but at the end of the day you cannot mention everybody, there are just too many artists

[@sjelvgrenfritte6936]

@@cchefkoch that’s true

[@bloodlish]

i love Oliver Francis

[@cchefkoch]

@@bloodlish what’s your favorite songs?

[@derriusbournes1822]

@@cchefkochnew years day is generational

[@resinonmylips]

i really fw your take fam lets work

[@Thanks2nofucker]

Cities aviv mentioned

[@caleb7775]

cities aviv, friendzone, main attrakions all legends 🗡️ i would even add xxyyxx as a pioneer to the genre

[@cchefkoch]

@@caleb7775 agreed and yes there definitely is some cloud rap influence in xxyyxx‘s songs

[@grayfox3446]

i miss 2013

[@yosh1city]

tiger is one of the best soundcloud albums oat

[@buns2842]

yall needa check out 6xvision

[@mac2541]

w video

[@cchefkoch]

thank you!

[@neverhavingfun]

at home💆🏾‍♂️

[@cchefkoch]

@@neverhavingfun you know it

[@morningstarrss]

Damm i turn 25 next year.

[@Yohjisbluff]

W Vid

[@cchefkoch]

@@Yohjisbluff thanks gang

[@jaxgambino1880]

Lithe is coming up in the game

[@KarlCartier]

no p2thegoldmask? he definitely played a part in the cloud rap scene

[@cchefkoch]

i couldnt mention every cloud rapper ever ofc but I'll check him out

[@KarlCartier]

@@cchefkoch you included a lot of legends tbh. i liked the video still nonetheless you did a good job breaking cloud rap down. i actually make cloud rap music myself

[@cchefkoch]

@@KarlCartier thank you I really appreciate that. And good luck with your music!

[@bruhmei1491]

Okay but lets get deeper. Evryone drop their favorite less known Cloud artist:

[@cchefkoch]

I'll go first: CLIP, especially the Appetizer album is heat

[@LlamaDelMooreyno-ci9ko]

Lofty305 Marcy Mane

[@JETHEREALXIV]

Main Attraktion

[@KarlCartier]

P2TheGoldMask

[@cchefkoch]

just found out about kushbabykeys, yall gotta peep that

[@VladNabokaSIDE]

Ethereal good too

[@yung.alchemist]

ethereal is an amazing producer and artist, he deserves way more respect. same with icytwat

[@VladNabokaSIDE]

@ icytwat legend

[@VladNabokaSIDE]

@ I draw poster now. Want show them

[@erickonami1]

Buildings by Yung Lean is the best cloud rap song of all time

[@unmuchoproblem0]

did i blink and miss it? bones and team sesh dont get a mention?

[@cchefkoch]

i mentionned them

[@unmuchoproblem0]

@ ok sick which part? was totally was dishes while watching

[@cchefkoch]

@@unmuchoproblem0 start at 8:20

[@unmuchoproblem0]

@ hey ty

[@cchefkoch]

@@unmuchoproblem0 no worries

[@willrobin5271]

Dude suicide boys DID NOT pioneer horrorcore😭

[@Trashcanrecordztopic]

😂😮

[@cchefkoch]

@@willrobin5271 fair, pioneer was the wrong word but they had a big impact on the subgenre

[@drasticmeadowsreal]

Jus say u liked the vid 🎉

[@yung.alchemist]

Gravediggaz pioneered that shit, than the lesser known Flatlinerz, both are dope and were part of my daily bus ride playlist in middle school

[@nativemerc]

Yeah I’d say $uicideboy$ did more for cloud rap/emo rap than horrorcore tbh

[@youngchopsnare234]

Good video I would say some examples aren't cloud rap, but discussion on classifying genres and subgenres is so contentious. like i can't imagine anyone involved in the making of "lowlife" ever thought of it as cloudrap. still, good work

[@cchefkoch]

yes bro its difficult since the subgenre has no clear borders but The Weekend definitely knows and appreciates cloud rap, so who knows maybe Lowlife still can count as a cloud rap track

[@StillIchor]

Ich wusste das es Cloud Rap sein wird, was sonst? Und Glückwunsch🎉

[@cchefkoch]

Danke dir für deinen Support, bist echt seit dem Anfang dabei 🎖️

[@StillIchor]

​​@@cchefkoch Easy alle fangen klein an, mittlerweile 300 ist echt krass. Kannst du mal zu Hypnagogic Rap ein Video machen? Da vor allem MIKE und Cities Aviv sehr gute Producer/Rapper sind, die nie ihren Lob bekommen.

[@cchefkoch]

ja zu Mike kommt auf jeden Fall noch was :)

[@mahrz5]

crazy lil b dont even got 1m monthly listeners

[@cchefkoch]

we gotta get him there asap

[@mahrz5]

@@cchefkoch fr he a pioneer and some of his songs dont even got 1k on spotify

[@cchefkoch]

@@mahrz5 i tried listening to his entire discography a couple of weeks ago lmao that shit takes years

[@mahrz5]

@@cchefkoch fr he got a 103 track album

[@cchefkoch]

@@mahrz5 man that MySpace collection is insane 😭

[@OZZKEME.]

Viper Cartier God Lil B Spaceghostpurp are the 4horseman of the underground that inspired influenced majority of the underground n mainstream n yes Ik viper is trash ass human 🤣😂iykyk but his music birthed vaporwave cloud rap

[@cchefkoch]

@@OZZKEME. yessir

[@Patisangana]

oe oe ça vient d'où ton bon accent là 🤣

[@cchefkoch]

mdr je suis franco-allemand 🤞

[@roxanbar1571]

You dont want to call Viper the founder of cloud rap because hes a psychopath? How about ruling out all drill rappers who ever robbed and killed, as pioneers of drill too? Guess what, Sorry Europeans, rap is born from struggle and alot of underground rap is adjacent to crime, poverty, and mental instability. Sorry he's not a proper educated safe character some french video editor can relate to, so he's not a founder of anything :( We need to find the first safe person that paints within our own lines to crown.

[@cchefkoch]

@@roxanbar1571 he raped and drugged a woman for 5 years I think it’s pretty reasonable that I don’t praise him in my video. I didn’t name him as the founder of cloud rap because his music is garbage and he never associated with cloud rap anyway.

[@roxanbar1571]

@@cchefkoch Cool leave him out the video then since that apparently disqualifies him instead of taking it as your opportunity to crown who and who wasnt pioneers, you wanna include him because thats somehow important to your message but still rewrite history and control the narrative totally pussy but does it look like Im stopping you?

[@cchefkoch]

tell me who did Viper influence, who did he inspire with his music, what is your agenda defending this man? Noone knew about him in 2010 man Lil B, Clams, Main Attraktionz, Friendzone and SGP, those are the real cloud rap kings because they actually impacted the rap industry.

[@resinonmylips]

@@cchefkochnahhh bruh you really aint giving those 4chan niggas enough credit Viper is a cloud rap meme Cloud rap needed memes to blow up

[@ultimatemariobros1496]

you can not say that his music is trash if you have not heard his best album Heartless Hoodlum

[@Trashcanrecordztopic]

Viper is not a Pioneer

[@cchefkoch]

Yeah with him its difficult, he did rap like no one did before but can’t say that it really sounds good

[@Trashcanrecordztopic]

@@cchefkoch no

[@bluhunits]

@@Trashcanrecordztopiclike him or not he is

[@Trashcanrecordztopic]

Stop Promoting viper

[@cchefkoch]

@@Trashcanrecordztopic he is a horrible person, still it is important to at least acknowledge his music for what it is while also criticizing his private actions which I did

[@1425osint]

no such thing as memphis "phonk" , memphis rap from the 90s is trap , not phonk , not "memphis phonk" , it's trap , thats where it started , thats who made it , before you make a history video make sure to actually know about what you're talking about lol

[@cchefkoch]

@@1425osint I appreciate you lecturing me and I now understand the difference but you could tell that in a less arrogant way next time, mutual respect is essential in a discussion

[@armonicorbett]

@1425osint three 6 mafia, hypnotize minds, lowkey etc all of that is phonk n was memphis take on g funk on the west coast. in memphis you had phonk in houston you had chopped n screwed these were the building blocks for trap music. you didn’t really hear the word trap being used to identify that subgenre in hiphop until young jeezy n T.I. who blew up in the mid 2000s which is when the first generation of trap took off. So no 90s Memphis gangster rap was not trap, it didn’t exist then, it was phonk. atl is trap.

[@cchefkoch]

@@armonicorbettthank you very much for your explanation. I sometimes find it difficult to recognize what counts as oldschool phonk and what doesn’t. And is the modern phonk from the 2010s a subgenre of trap?

[@armonicorbett]

@@cchefkoch no for the most part, in the video you got it right it’s the other commenter he has it wrong. Thanks for the video.

[@SensualityMajestic187]

Memphis invented subgenres that didn't even existed back in their time, them boys are time travelers!

[@thecollector2464]

2:22 song?

[@cchefkoch]

Clouddead - Apt. A (2)

[@SensualityMajestic187]

Cloud trap isn't dead, it transmuted itself into bame plugg and hexx'd and Florida stick drill etc, check those subgenres bro. Edited: just type "luci4" for the hexx'd subgenre

[@cchefkoch]

@@SensualityMajestic187 interesting, I never saw it that way. But that sigilkore, hexxd, bame and dream Plugg definitely has cloud rap influence to it now that you said it yeah

[@slepyoman]