Thanks for watching, and please consider supporting the channel by buying merch: teespring.com/stores/the-cynical-historian Or by donating to my Patreon: www.patreon.com/CynicalHistorian See below the "read more" for additional info, but first, here are some related videos to check out: Playlist on how to research history: kzbin.info/aero/PLjnwpaclU4wU5T64ixCALFUC6c6cQJjL- Playlist of historiography videos: kzbin.info/aero/PLjnwpaclU4wUYMDmuznH5PvCoAlMRReX6 *[reserved for errata]* *References* James M. Banner, _The Ever-Changing Past: Why All History Is Revisionist History_ (New Haven, Conn.: Yale University Press, 2021), audiobook. amzn.to/3y0Y8er Peter Gunn, _History and Cultural Theory_ (Oxon, UK: Pearson Education Limited, 2006). amzn.to/2uWmK9F Peter Charles Hoffer, _Past Imperfect: Facts, Fictions, Fraud American History from Bancroft and Parkman to Ambrose, Bellesiles, Ellis, and Goodwin_ (New York: Public Affairs, 2004). amzn.to/2OQJh0m Lloyd Kramer and Sarah Maza, eds., _A Companion to Western Historical Thought_ (Malden, Mass.: Blackwell Publishing, 2002). amzn.to/2LhuzSf Edward T. Linenthal and Tom Engelhardt, _History Wars: The Enola Gay and other Battles for the American Past_ (New York: Henry Holt and Company, 1996). amzn.to/2pHmglK Peter Novick, _That Noble Dream: The 'Objectivity Question' and the American Historical Profession_ (Cambridge, UK: Cambridge University Press, 1988). amzn.to/2D3NM46 William H. Sewell, _Logics of History: Social Theory and Social Transformation_ (Chicago, Ill.: University of Chicago Press, 2005). amzn.to/2ZvH5Cs Kate Turabian, _A Manual for Writers: of Research Papers, Theses, and Dissertations, Chicago Style for Students and Researchers,_ 8th ed. (Chicago, Ill.: University of Chicago Press, 2013). amzn.to/2Kd5ORK Some of the topics covered in more depth elsewhere on this channel: EP Thompson and Marxism: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f5jFapmVmLiFeM0 Pragmatism: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nKKzcqF8m7V9q80 Orthodoxy vs. revisionism vs. post-revisionism: kzbin.info/www/bejne/roKqpGabjt16iNk book review of the cheese and the worms: kzbin.info/www/bejne/iH68oWqVadKsma8 Feminism: kzbin.info/www/bejne/f3yQgpiZnc2Se8U Rise of the New Left: kzbin.info/www/bejne/nH3bgYiZj7B5q7s Ranke: kzbin.info/www/bejne/eZe7iGZtfMuhe6c Braudel: kzbin.info/www/bejne/kKrCmZ2kbJV9j5I
@rubies29053 жыл бұрын
Is Microhistory what Howard Zinn focuses on or is he a revisionist??
@rubies29053 жыл бұрын
Great quick recap video! Thank you!!
@bobwilson76842 жыл бұрын
the less Bs by now on the internet about history, nice video, you read all those books!! lol, what a brain you must have ))
@stifledvoice2 күн бұрын
Thanks professor. I took an historiography course over 30 years ago, and I recognize those same books.Still got them too. Nice capsulized synopsis.
@erzar.17303 жыл бұрын
Alternate title: A historian talks about history of history of history in this video about historiography
@colinb86233 жыл бұрын
So is this gonna a history of comments about the history of this alternate title: a cynical historan talks about the history of the history of history?
@CaeruleanXII6 ай бұрын
This is a great overview that hits the important notes, names them clearly and gives examples of their notable proponents in such a way that it makes it easy to find info on whatever part you want to delve into next. Excellent work!
@wafflepoet54373 жыл бұрын
*Thank you* for dropping a video on historiography. I have been struggling with people for so long trying to get them to understand how *actual* historians develop their work and I’ve never been able to succinctly explain the tools and process I was taught at university.
@danupp38393 жыл бұрын
Loved your description of Post-Modernism. Great video. I've never looked too far into historiography so this taught me a good deal and gave me a lot to think about. Thanks for continuing to make these great videos!
@bvigil18883 жыл бұрын
This video came out at just the right time for me. I am a CSULB student taking a class in Intercultural Communication and I literally just finished reading a chapter on History of Intercultural Communication and I feel this video makes for a good companion piece. Thank you for this informative video. :)
@k-majik3 жыл бұрын
As a first-year History PhD student, I can safely say this is marvellous. To simply sum up my historiographical outlook: the more perspectives on the past we have, the better we understand our history. This kind of video will hopefully encourage people to develop those perspectives :)
@JMM33RanMA3 жыл бұрын
Wow! You covered three times as much as my first semester of graduate historiography! Admittedly the course, not to mention my career in history, was terminated by the closure following the Kent State Massacre. I'd say it was one of the most interesting courses I took in grad school. Another extremely interesting course was the senior UG Modern European History course, taught by a professor who was the daughter of Eduard Beneš [former Czechoslovakian President]. She emphasized Central and Eastern European history, and had little praise for either Germany or Russia/USSR [NO surprise!]. I have a feeling that Madeleine Albright would teach a similar course. Congratulations on a very interesting video, and thanks for the really fast trip down memory lane!
@artkoenig94343 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your summary of the various schools of historiography. You hit the highpoints and managed to pull it off quite well!
@CubeyP3 жыл бұрын
Wow I LOVED this video. Please give us more about the progression of knowledge and thought about historical subjects, as that context can be as enlightening as the modern consensus.
@lorensims48463 жыл бұрын
I'm convinced that history is continually moving forward toward a more perfect and complete description, of course inevitably as viewed from within the current zeitgeist. Which will give more useful data to future historians who are also working within their own intellectual biases. I do enjoy the histories written in the last few decades very much, but perhaps because they are describing history aligned more closely with my own contemporary world-view.
@ben99753 жыл бұрын
there are a lot of people who are never in a position to go to school and learn these invaluable skills for approaching an understanding of our world. videos like this are so important. thank you
@dreww89412 жыл бұрын
I had to forgo a history minor to pursue law and psych, but channels such as yours and Mr. Beat are good supplements.
@omalone11692 жыл бұрын
10:32 new book
@dionspring32123 жыл бұрын
Easily one of the best history related content I've watched on KZbin. Sometimes I wish I did a history degree
@lilomorales6181 Жыл бұрын
Same!
@ArmyNavyAcademy3 жыл бұрын
As a historian this is very interesting, working on my next history book so was looking into this as well because it's such an interesting topic
@zacharysmith45083 жыл бұрын
While growing up I never enjoyed history, thinking it was boring and kind of masturbatory. Now I'm regretting not enjoying the field sooner! Part of that has to do with your channel, keep doing what you're doing.
@BoffinGrusky3 жыл бұрын
Impressive presentation with LOTS of food for thought. Well done!
@omalone11692 жыл бұрын
Not sure about the suggestion Ferguson is fringe
@musicsubicandcebu17743 жыл бұрын
"The cavalry principle provides a simple formula which can account for the complex, contradictory behaviour of humans. To review this briefly: aggression, through selection, has evolved to err on the side of excess - and always exert pressure. The resulting anxiety can be relieved in two basic ways: by consuming the instinct through warfare (the Alexandrian tradition), or by writing a poem about it (the Homeric). Both exacerbate the problem: for violence, as we know, merely begets more violence; and poetry, in dignifying it, endorses it. Such circumstances have enabled aggression to become so formidable a weapon it now controls us. So distorted has the battle for survival come to be that what was once just an arms race has become an arts race too: those who create more (subjugate more aggression) get to destroy more." An example is the German culture with its notable composers.
@MimiMortmain3 жыл бұрын
I did my masters dissertation largely on the philosophy of history and I cannot emphasis how useful a video like this would have been. All I wanted was for someone to explain in simple terms how everything fitted together rather than crying over all the heavy books 😅
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat3 жыл бұрын
Two things to say: 1. Two people named Beard and no beards on either of them? What a let down. Admittedly, one was a woman but that is not a good excuse, the cowards! 2. In case anyone is looking at marxist or socialist sources for whatever reason, know that different writers use socialism as the end state and communism as the end state. It's confusing but some use them interchangeably, some are inconsistent and, some switch which one is the end and which is the mid point.
@wckvn11 күн бұрын
I’m starting Masters in History… my first course is Western Historiography. So this video is right on time.
@brianbadonde9251Ай бұрын
Ah yes, doing history. My favortie activity.
@Fj3 Жыл бұрын
One of the best videos I've ever watched anywhere-- but if you could have a copiable official transcript of your own provided here, it shall elevate this video to an 11/10!
@CynicalHistorian Жыл бұрын
I go off script regularly, even in this, where I'm playing a bit of a high wire act
@thats4thebirds3 жыл бұрын
That lil music drop after the intro was a bop dude.
@24601percentdone3 жыл бұрын
Thank you so much! I've been taking a historiography seminar and to say the reading material is dense is an understatement. I'm excited to get back to it with perhaps a framework of understanding that you've provided- this will certainly make things easier.
@jacobedward24013 жыл бұрын
Hmm Lindybeige said in a video that he didn't care about the history of ideas, he only cared if the ideas were good ones. I thought that was a very dumb thing for a history buff to say.
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat3 жыл бұрын
Lindybeige isn't the worst historian on youtube or anything but he lacks any professional training (I'm pretty sure anyway) and it really shows sometimes. His takes aren't universally bad and he's definitely an excellent storyteller but he sometimes says very questionable things.
@tardvandecluntproductions12783 жыл бұрын
Lindybeige is not perfect, just like every human being.
@SPDYellow3 жыл бұрын
Re:Your Comments on Objectivity: Supposedly, Howard Zinn said something about when he wrote his Peoples' History, he wasn't afraid of being accused of bias, because he believed that it wasn't possible to write a completely unbiased view of history. He said something along the lines of, "Even if he stuck solely to facts, the mere act of choosing which facts to mention and which to leave out is, in itself, an act of bias." I imagine you have your own views of Howard Zinn since you have more than a layman's knowledge of the field, but I thought it was interesting.
@mwi38652 жыл бұрын
So what I have gathered from this very in depth video is the Frankfurt school is the best and the whigs are the worst. This video is fascinating
@skeletonkeysproductionskp3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating video bro, keep up the great work!
@omalone11692 жыл бұрын
13:55 it sounds like Martin Bernal and Howard Zinn
@edivimo3 жыл бұрын
Oh god, you always says "history is complex" or something similar, right? Now I know why...
@omalone11692 жыл бұрын
Many thanks 19:35 is the book that even led me here
@matthewmcneany3 жыл бұрын
Objective history is like a good cop - A nice ideal to aim for given the society we live in.
@pilot.wav_theory Жыл бұрын
the bg music in this video is fucking groovy
@christopherdurham19993 жыл бұрын
No mention of Hari Seldon and his equations of Psychohistory...
@dougmattis92933 жыл бұрын
Hey MisterHisterMan....nicely done, as usual. Amazing work, in fact. This one is so helpful; thank you!
@historicalruss97692 жыл бұрын
I'm starting my Masters in History next week and Historiography is my first class. Glad to see some academic content on KZbin in my field!
@omalone11692 жыл бұрын
Book: this noble dream
@Iamguilherme2 жыл бұрын
Great video! Thank you
@CaptainTingo2 жыл бұрын
It's almost midnight and I have a historiography exam in the morning...let's see if this video can save me 🙇🏻♀️
@epicfail5523 жыл бұрын
Can we get a History of Memory/Cultural Memory episode possibly? I’d love to see your take on Pierre Nora and Jan Assmann
@andrewjacks27162 жыл бұрын
Idk if Cypher got a haircut or not, but his hair looks sharp in this one!
@Sandra-hc4vo3 жыл бұрын
thanks, very informative!
@diggs51423 жыл бұрын
fantastic vid
@gameboy0083 жыл бұрын
The Beard of Knowledge gave the world The Beard of Understanding.
@mikecrump73682 жыл бұрын
That was cool. Well done.
@CptPipebeard3 жыл бұрын
I never thought I'd see Psychostick in a history video.
@jurtra90903 жыл бұрын
5:46 Caesar's Legion approves
@2019502019503 жыл бұрын
Thank you that was awesome
@PYRESATVARANASI3 жыл бұрын
Excelente vídeo 👍🏼✨. Soy historiador también y me encantó el formato. Fue corto, y preciso. Claro, no es nada profundo pero funciona como una base general.
@HistoryOfRevolutions3 жыл бұрын
"Every single human soul has more meaning and value than the whole of history" - Nikolai Berdyaev
@DATA-qt3nb3 жыл бұрын
Great "Psycostick" insert lmao
@zombiemolly97112 жыл бұрын
I love you!
@jimlabbe82583 жыл бұрын
Well done!
@pennywaldrip37743 жыл бұрын
The history of History... nice.
@SemanticZen3 жыл бұрын
another great video. I see you're drinking Winchester rye. You should try the double oak (finished in sherry casks); quite tasty and a real bargain at less than $30.
@kookieless3 жыл бұрын
put this video at 2x speed and damn this is a lot of info for 10 and a half minutes.
@cookiestheentertainerchann79075 ай бұрын
Where do you place the Cambridge school?
@eliscanfield39133 жыл бұрын
Professor Cypher: Today we'll be talking about historiography me: Yes! ...i might be slightly mad, just very slightly mad... Media "makes people complacent and docile." Really, that sounds so much like "Back in *my* day we always respected our parents" or whatever.
@diggs51423 жыл бұрын
Explanation is not endorsement
@rachyett9 ай бұрын
Simon Gunn rather than Peter Gunn if anyone is looking for that book. Henry Mancini would be pleased :)
@Scottd863 жыл бұрын
Cypher, what are your thoughts on Neil Howe and William Strauss The Fourth Turning?
@CynicalHistorian3 жыл бұрын
Seems like wishy washy theorizing to me
@peterhaag52253 жыл бұрын
I had the class from the head of the department who never teaches those intro classes. It was pretty wonderful. My grammar however was atrocious.
@omalone11692 жыл бұрын
15:10 Butler a historian ?
@jimlabbe82583 жыл бұрын
Can you recommend a good text specifically on methods of historical writing and essay composition?
@CynicalHistorian3 жыл бұрын
That Tursbian book in the description is standardly assigned for that purpose
@racer11253 жыл бұрын
A nice way to dip ones toes into an ocean
@mathieuleader86013 жыл бұрын
the book creature in the thumbnail looks like how I would imagine the wizard to look like in a reboot of Pagemaster or some kind of SCP
@renobgm3 жыл бұрын
I literally just recently discovered your channel, and also just two or three days ago looked this exact thing up. Are you psychic
@CynicalHistorian3 жыл бұрын
I KNOW ALL, MWAHAHA
@warlordofbritannia3 жыл бұрын
My historiographical hot takes: Thucydides is DaDdY, not Herodotus John Demos >>> Boyer and Nissenbaum Livy is just the Roman Herodotus Gibbon is still useful, though in particular for historiographical studies Charles Oman still holds up in most matters Cambyses killed his brother Mary Beard actually had a beard, but it was airbrushed out of all visual depictions Richard III apologists are just stupid contrarians All JFK assassination conspiracy theories are true at once, actually
@tarasdubenskyy5083 жыл бұрын
Every historian is just a human, just a spider weaving some web..
@lamadoracherryannec.40202 жыл бұрын
How do i gets link of references
@gelgamath_99033 жыл бұрын
You get a like for the psychostick reference
@marcusimpresario77243 жыл бұрын
~ The Journalist's Creed: Never let the facts stand in the way of a good story. Never let truth stand in the way of The Narrative. ~
@willgriff3 жыл бұрын
I hate that KZbin took two days to let me know about this video
@CynicalHistorian3 жыл бұрын
That might explain it's getting so few views
@willgriff3 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian keep ya head up joe, it's all good and you are doing important work.
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat3 жыл бұрын
@@CynicalHistorian wow, that is a low view count. No idea why, it's formatted a little different from your other content but not fundamentally unrelated or anything.
@KarlWinterling2 жыл бұрын
So, uh... * Postmodernism: Categories like race, class, and gender are socially constructed. * Libertarian Marxism (AKA Neo-Marxism or New Left): People can make a better world together if they recognize current and historical mistreatment. Empiricism and changing your mind = good. * Frankfurt School: Modern entertainment makes you docile. * Great Leap Forward: Catastrophic famine caused by Mao Zedong implementing outrageously disastrous economic policies his own authoritarian communist economic advisors warned against. Mao was motivated by a desire to prove China's superiority as a nation and refused to change course when presented with evidence of a disaster.
@jordancridland96573 жыл бұрын
I have a question. Goodbye Uncle Tom 1971. is an Italian mondo film (pseudo documentaries made to shock audiences.) The premise is that these 2 Italian filmmakers go back in time and interview slaves, played by actors. Practices and opinions of the time are shown. I want to know if what happens in the documentary actually occurred. Because it looks like the purpose of the film is to shock and disgust the viewer out. WARNING- there's ALOT of nudity. And can be found on KZbin. I've been a fan of your channel for some time.
@TheJayman2133 жыл бұрын
Another jab at the thesis-antithesis-synthesis-paradigm: At 7:30 it looks like communism is the synthesis of capitalism and socialism which is wild.
@adamzandarski89333 жыл бұрын
It's Mitchell fucko forever now
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat3 жыл бұрын
This is objectively true.
@benoitraulin12643 жыл бұрын
Génial
@NotHPotter3 жыл бұрын
Hey, look at Fucko over here!
@nicolaseito51722 жыл бұрын
There is pareto history theory too.
@younggamer72183 жыл бұрын
Yeah it really is an interesting thing
@sket4ket473 жыл бұрын
The bourgeois aren't the middle class. In Marxism there is no middle class. There are the proletariat (those who work) and bourgeois (those who own). Petit bourgeois are people who do both. For example a small business owner
@Seth-jn2yq2 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not I searched for this
@AbdulHannanAbdulMatheen3 жыл бұрын
👏🙂
@eddrupz18052 жыл бұрын
Its Simon Gunn, not Peter Gunn.
@CynicalHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Could you please time stamp where i made that mistake?
@LostDreamerX2 жыл бұрын
Wow
@theshenpartei3 жыл бұрын
Got the notification
@lion94602 жыл бұрын
jesus, cipher. do you EVER blink? (good vid tho)
@CynicalHistorian2 жыл бұрын
Never! (It's a trick of cutting so quickly)
@ZetaEntity1013 жыл бұрын
Is a history of history how original 😏
@jacobedward24013 жыл бұрын
Are you lonely and sad? Grow a beard! Want to look good in plaid? Grow a beard!
@unhomesenzill43663 жыл бұрын
I feel like I watched this before
@freshjohn.3 жыл бұрын
The statue of the old man that you always put different glasses on… Who the heck is he? What is his name? And what is he holding up?? It’s starting to drive me mad. Jk but I seriously would like to know his name please? because I want to google him!! I can’t figure out who he is. Apparently there are a shit ton of statues that were made of men holding up things from lanterns all the way to holding up heads. So please would you please enlighten me? I would seriously highly appreciate it. Thanks. Bye the way, I’m a new subscriber! Cool channel! Good shit man!
@CynicalHistorian3 жыл бұрын
It's Diogenes holding a lantern in the shape of a zero = cynical cypher
@glhmedic3 жыл бұрын
You know if you slow your speech to normal this video would 2 hours. Just saying
@warriorwhacko3 жыл бұрын
Ahh, Michel Fucko. Distant cousin of noted game developer Fred Fuchs featured on AVGN.
@varisleek33603 жыл бұрын
beard life.
@mudgetheexpendable3 жыл бұрын
You got to Gramsci and my brain started playing Tetris all by itself. This is proof of the absolute cultural flux we're in while the world waits for China to set the new rules.
@lipingrahman66483 жыл бұрын
A much better way of thinking about history is first and foremost abandon any form of teleology. The real knowledge we have gotten from Science has shown that there is no point or purpose or direction to the happenings to the universe, least still one little species on one little world amid the black seas of infinity. And certainly not the little thing we call human history. Likewise the very silly contingencies of nation, peace, justice, gender, equality, blood, race, and all philosophies, etc are wholly inappropriate to describe the history of a species that is 300,000 years old and a genus of millions of years old. The little history we learn in schools and the various faith systems around them are but a most insignificant part of the real history of this planet or this universe which are billions of years old.
@Spaghetter8133 жыл бұрын
What you desribed as "real history" is initself largely insignificant to our purposeless reality.
@beacebrocess3 жыл бұрын
history is just shit happening
@KevinContreras20133 жыл бұрын
Not only that, but why it happened
@beacebrocess3 жыл бұрын
@@KevinContreras2013 nah gimme that nice and dry “this happened and then this happened” i want history to be written like it’s a DMV manual. Thiccc tomes of pure information
@Kobolds_in_a_trenchcoat3 жыл бұрын
@@beacebrocess that's not history then, it's a chronicle. History is an explanation of why things happened, not just what happened. (also neither is objective since you still have to decide what goes into a chronicle but still)
@Reynaldo-j1s10 ай бұрын
This video is a mess of information and concepts times thinkers policies just dumped at 200 miles anhour