The History of Indie Games

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[@grimmquote6682]

You can’t have a indie game vid like this without mentioning Cave Story. For many this is the true first big indie game that popped up online also in 2004. Although I’d say half-life 2 definitely had influence on many developers, you wouldn’t look at it and say : “I can make this” (at least at the time) as indeed Valve wasn’t a small studio, with small amounts of funding. Cave Story is said to have inspired many indie devs no matter how small. And it makes sense, as Cave Story was made by one dude (daisuke amaya) on his free time over the course of five years. everything was made primarily by him; engine, gameplay, story, art design, music, even the program used to make the music in the game was made by him. It was released for free online in a time where you really only found flash games online. It became pretty popular, but seems to have faded away nowadays in terms of mentions. The game can still be played for free right now actually, but so many ports of it exist (including one on steam) you have lots of choices. For more info on it: try watching ProbablyJacobs review on it kzbin.info/www/bejne/rnO9houbi8eDjas

[@SaveDataTeam]

You're definitely not wrong. We also have a video on "best games made by one person." and we talk much more in length about Cave Story's importance there, especially in how it showed people that they didn't have to be a big studio to create a wonderful game. (It's here if you wanted to check it out: kzbin.info/www/bejne/n3iWe4Bre6-KirM)

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[@lrbag8269]

This video. This is a good video, and you have subsequently earned a subscriber

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[@christina7464]

This video is incredible and definitely deserves more attention! Thank you for so much effort.

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[@mikelooksatstuff]

Cave Story. That's it.

[@tremorstudio9766]

Pretty interesting! Today the barrier to indie games is fuzzy by now

[@handroid3023]

Great point about indie games having always existing on the PC. It's not that AAA games suddenly became bad in the last few years, it's that AAA games weren't the only type of game that existed 20 years ago.

[@joseluispcr]

the theme of the video stars at 2.30. your welcome

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[@smith.b]

We love an adventure zone reference

[@ilesalmo7724]

In the 90's indie-games were text-adventures

[@SaveDataTeam]

This is true. And they were very popular in smaller circles!

[@roninyasuo4301]

1:47 They'd also say the same about Steve in Smash.....

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Hahaha, and here we are, just the same 😅

[@RainCloud123]

Keep up the great work everyone!

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[@000Gua000]

I think you've missed two important pieces in that story. Flash games and iPhone/Android games. Those were only open platforms for a very long time, so those platforms became a home for many indies, for many years. Even Braid was rejected for steam publishing until it became a hit on xbox360.

[@SaveDataTeam]

We did spend some time talking about flash games in the video, but you’re right that we didn’t touch on mobile games! It ended up bloating the script and we cut it for time.

[@rikkathemejo]

Good content, nice pace, I found one of the first sound effects a bit too loud. Congratulation for hitting 1000 subscribers! (i saw 999 before i hit subscribe) Keep it up!

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Thank you very much, glad you enjoyed! (And thanks for the 1,000th sub! 😊

[@jeffsindiegamereviews2651]

Love to see recognition given to these indie games. Great video and nice job!

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Thank you very much! It was fun to work on! If you’re a big indie game guy, check out our video that just dropped today. It’s about 13 games made by one person 😅

[@jeffsindiegamereviews2651]

Around The Monitor will do!

[@shawn6306]

the nintendo wii shop and the intenet back then was not trash to me at all it was good to me

[@dormantformant]

Surprised this channel isn't bigger!

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[@000Gua000]

0:06 I always had an easy answer. In my opinion studio should not call themselves indie, if most people in that studio are working for salaries. Those people are not independent, they can be fired tomorrow.

[@SaveDataTeam]

That’s a pretty solid definition! 👍

[@calvincooper9946]

Bloopers are my favorite!!!!

[@KlausWulfenbach]

On the one hand, every minute or so I was thinking "Why did he skip over X? X is SO IMPORTANT!". Like how games written in BASIC by college students on mainframes and minicomputers laid the conceptual foundation a lot of the early personal computer games that weren't arcade ports. Or like how Steam was originally created just to distribute Counter-Strike patches, and Half Life 2 probably would have been yet another Valve game published by Sierra if Sierra hadn't gone bankrupt. Also, wrong Duke Nukem, dang it: Duke Nukem 1 and 2 were released on shareware years before DN3D. But the real problem is that this is a single 17 minute video and not a year-long twenty hour megaseries like other KZbinrs have done. I highly recommend GamingGHD's Years dot Game series... which still had to skip over a lot of stuff. kzbin.info/aero/PL52LkmrCqdmTAh9ORpFe2OvXwVM1XvRDl

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This is rad, I love watching longform stuff like this. I'll have to check it out!

[@TopherMullen01]

Hey! That’s not the same white guy I normally hear talk about video games. Great video! Great points. I’m a nerd, so the business stuff you cut might have been interesting, but I get it.

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Haha, thanks! Yeah we ultimately decided against it because it was turning out almost as boring to watch as it was to read 😅, but trust me, we’ll have more boring legalese coming in a later video! 😄

[@TopherMullen01]

I can’t wait to be made bored in the future.

[@ssx47]

good video documentery

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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed! 😊

[@CasiRiegle]

Dang, Half-Life 2 is an indie game? Bold Statement, but I kinda got behind what you said!

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Pretty crazy, huh?

[@rubberrubbubnik3962]

my computer crashed as soon as you said hl2 was a indie game, i guess my computer disagreed with you! 😂

[@SaveDataTeam]

Yeah, it’s meant as a but of a shock value statement, although fairly true at the time! 😅

[@chreemiester]

Good shit

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Thanks! Glad you enjoyed! 😊