The History of: The Miranda Class S1-E2

[@khartog01]

I always felt sad watching a Miranda get destroyed in DS9. She's an old warhorse.

[@setojurai]

I refute thee with exactly two words: "Oberth Class"

[@setojurai]

derp, wrong reply. Sorry, Khartog01

[@maddslothii2532]

combat hardened men were known to break down crying when they found out they were assigned to one of these cannon fodder class ships. especially the ones who only needed a new assignment because they were lucky enough to have survived the destruction of their last Miranda

[@DrewLSsix]

maddsloth II. At least they didnt have to memorize a new deck plan....

[@garrettjewsome7012]

That's hilarious!

[@maddslothii2532]

+Cliven work horse and cannon fodder all in one. every-time a Miranda was was shown on screen it was blowing up... they fell by the dozens in each battle vs the dominion. that is why when the Federation finally learned the needed good ships they made Akira , Steamrunner, and Prometheus'for mid size ships.

[@maddslothii2532]

+Cliven that is my main point it is horribly out dated. not that older ships could not be made to pack a punch. (that excelsior in paradise lost) went toe to toe with the Defiant. but never was a Miranda given such love. the least the Federation could have done is upgrade it a bit so it was more like a F-4 vs a F-22 they are still screwed but at least they might do something useful.

[@RealengoPrimordialDemon]

Miranda has a bad reputation of being the red shirt of Starfleet ships but Miranda's consistently has to fight against ships far bigger and powerful. The only times you get to see a Miranda destroyed in battle is against a Borg cube, a Jem Hadar battle cruiser or a Cardassian weapons platform and any of those can destroy the most powerful ship Starfleet has.

[@hansebee]

nice collection of pictures and tech facts, but the pacing of the kiddie techno music and the narration could not have been farther apart. Moreover you should really really do one or two test runs to not trip over vocabulary. This would really lift these videos into another level.

[@kathyclark3752]

Miranda remains one of my all time fav class next to the Intrepid and Sovereign The second i saw her in Wrath Of Khan i was inlove

[@OmegaOrdained]

Me too! I thought it was the perfect counterpart to the Enterprise. I also love that red spot light in the front LOL😎👍

[@kathyclark3752]

@@OmegaOrdained i loved that detail It looked cool. Made little sense but producers had to make sure the audiences knew Reliant was the bad guy ship.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Isn't it funny that the producers thought people might have gotten the two ships mixed up, unless they installed a little red light in the front LOL😆😆😆

[@spiritofthewolf15x]

I was always a fan of The Miranda, Excelsior and Oberth classes. They just look amazing.

[@OmegaOrdained]

spiritofthewolf15x I love the Miranda and the Excelsior. I love to have a Miranda look like it was kitbashed from a Enterprise a. Not a big fan of the old bird but it did have a unique look to it.

[@TalesOfWar]

I'm always in two minds about the Excelsior. I love it and hate it at the same time, it's hard to explain it lol. It just looks so... 80's. Most other ship designs are kind of timeless, mostly.

[@spiritofthewolf15x]

Tonnage shaming isn't cool man.

[@spiritofthewolf15x]

As Admiral Hammer once said, "I like big ships and I cannot lie"

[@theQuestion626]

@@spiritofthewolf15x a witty female pirate in a certain fantasy epic believed a similar philosophy.

[@Will-eh6xe]

miranda class was the red shirt of star fleet lol

[@OmegaOrdained]

Nice ;)

[@thunberbolttwo3953]

No that would be the oberth class.

[@MrStabby19812]

Not really they could tear apart a constitution they were just old by the 24th century.

[@RecklessFables]

I just watched a video about how in TOS the red shirts had a higher survival rate than gold and blue. So by that reckoning (and ship purpose) the Oberth is a proper blueshirt vessel.

[@craigs71]

It was more the future equivalent of the Sherman tank.

[@whitewolf6605]

I used to have difficulty balancing narration and other sounds. All it takes is patience and diligence which you got in the reaserch. Best of luck! Good video :)

[@OmegaOrdained]

Thank you white wolf! I appreciate it😎👊

[@simonkerr1899]

Always loved the Miranda class. Great video.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Me too! Thank you

[@haroldchase1881]

Frankly these ships got smoked down mostly because turd Fleet tried to use them like they were BBs or heavy cruiser . 😆

[@colinmerritt7645]

Miranda's my 2nd favorite ship after the Connie. I always thought of her as a light cruiser with similar mission profiles as the Connie, just not quite as good at it. (less labs, less power and weapons, etc.) A cheaper explorer to fill in the gaps during the Federation's big expansion effort mid-late 23rd century would be welcome.

[@jeffjohnson6402]

Enjoyed. Thank you for this !

[@OmegaOrdained]

You are most welcome!

[@cyrusmorris9599]

The Miranda class was just cannon fodder in the Dominion wars, so let's not kid ourselves it was by that time that the inadequacies of this 200-year-old ship were quite obvious

[@zerodawn2277]

One of my favorite ship class 😍

[@OmegaOrdained]

Me Too! :)

[@zerodawn2277]

Only second to the Intrepid Class.

[@OmegaOrdained]

The Galaxy class is still my number one but I do love the Miranda

[@zerodawn2277]

The Galaxy Class is beautiful but only on fourth place on my list. Nebula Class is on third place. The Farragut looked awesome in Generation

[@OmegaOrdained]

You know I'm partial to the Phoenix with the round dome instead of the Triangular Dome on the nebula class. I'm starting up a new show top ten Tuesdays where I'll be doing top 10 Star Trek things. I was considering doing the top 10 Starships would that be something you'd want to see?

[@sarahmartin3558]

This was a very good review of The Miranda Class vessel! Thank you for that! My eldest daughter's name is Miranda, so' I'll make sure that this review is passed along to her! Strange, I have a chart illustrating various ships of the Fleet, called the "Federation Starship Recognition Chart", which includes silhouettes of many Federation Class Starships for the purpose of training helm crew, but, Miranda Class is not named on it. Yet, it has Coventry Class, Surya Class, Knox Class, Avenger/Cyane Class, Duran Class, and Kirov Class, which all appear as versions of the Miranda Class.

[@miafillene4396]

These babies were Battlecruisers. Heavy firepower but little staying power. They were also a bit faster and leaner. They could dish it out better then a Connie, but couldn't take the hits like one.

[@Ryan_Christopher]

That’s the definition of a Heavy Frigate or a Destroyer, certainly not a Battlecruiser. Battlecruisers, for current reference, is what Russia has. One of which is famous for being sunk by Ukraine when it should have been able to defend itself.

[@ultraelstudman7210]

I love the Miranda class. The space hotrod

[@OmegaOrdained]

Totally! 😎👍

[@cyrusmorris9599]

the soyuz class was actually a Miranda class that was permanently modified to a specification becoming its own starship class

[@spiritofthewolf15x]

Utilitarian, simple, effective.

[@kevinwiltshire2217]

Put some phaser banks and a larger super weapon instead of the torpedo luncher

[@Perich29]

to those that played startrek online, you may be formilliar with that ship.

[@OmegaOrdained]

I enjoyed playing the rent a class in Star Trek online, it was hard to give up but I really did like the constitution-class better in the game

[@marvah3192]

Good one!

[@OmegaOrdained]

Thank you kindly! :)

[@leomartin1603]

Where is the main deflector?

[@OmegaOrdained]

I have wondered that myself. Not sure it has one😎👍

[@Ryan_Christopher]

@@OmegaOrdained It can’t not have one. A hit from space dust going at fractions of light speed would have destructive force. Even the weaker Kelvin had a Main Deflector.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Yep, that's absolutely true! However, where is it? I've built many of the models, and can't find the deflector dish on any of them😎👍

[@ozziemederos]

Reliant prefix code is still 16309 no over ride

[@ThatsMrPencilneck2U]

The Miranda class never did sit well with me, and after so many decades, I've figured out why. The original Enterprise was a modified lying saucer. In 1965, the gold standard for an interstellar spacecraft was a flying saucer, and that was just what Matt Jeffries delivered. Gene Roddenberry sent it back. He wanted something different. The Enterprise saucer is the most sophisticated flying saucer ever designed for theater, but it wasn't good enough for Gene Roddenberry. The saucer is so sophisticated, it actually has a functional design. It is actually shaped like a laser projectile, minus air vents. The concave shape, with the conical structure in the middle works as a thrust chamber. In short, the saucer was designed to blast straight up, into the sky. When one put this together with the tenuous connection to the engineering hull, the engineering hull is merely an accessory. It is possible the Jeffries designed the ship, before transporters were thought of, and wanted to make the saucer separate for planetary landings. What is certain is that Jeffries designed a flying saucer first, and the engineering hull was an add-on. This means that the shape of the entire ship doesn't make sense if the engineering hull isn't an accessory to the saucer. It looks like the saucer was designed to separate under routine conditions. The model of the Reliant was built to look like the Enterprise, only in a different configuration. It is a kit-bash designed in such a way the audience is not likely to confuse one with the other. Aside from the obvious script requirements, there is absolutely no reason the saucer section of the Reliant should even vaguely resemble that part of the Enterprise. One should not look too deeply. Unfortunately, when a model maker looks too deeply into Star Trek models, they see how the rules of starship design get twisted and broken. Very few ST model are seem to operate withing the same design constraints.

[@OmegaOrdained]

Wow very well put. That is crazy to think that the enterprise is a modded flying saucer . I grew up on next generation and never put the two together. Thank you for the history lesson 😂😂😂

[@ThatsMrPencilneck2U]

As technology improves, a later, much larger ship would likely be a stylized version of an earlier iconic spacecraft. There is every reason in the world for Picard's Enterprise to be a sleeker version of Kirk's. Archer's Enterprise, however, is an abomination. It looks derivative only for the sake of the audience expecting something derivative.

[@crushmonkey801]

"Shaped like a laser projectile" What kind of bizarro science is this, that makes my head hurt so?

[@skyeplaysgames6734]

@@crushmonkey801 that's what I thought. You want projectile you look at defiant sovereign or Prometheus maybe the intrepid

[@chrissonofpear1384]

This all sounds a bit Project greenglow, then...

[@bob2swpa]

What about the Bozeman?

[@OmegaOrdained]

I think that was a Soyas class

[@skyeplaysgames6734]

Was a Soyuz class

[@matthewjordan656]

Those are magaphasers

[@davemcbeardface8976]

please do the ambassador class

[@OmegaOrdained]

It's funny you request the Ambassador class, I was planning on doing the enterprise-c for November LOL. I love the Ambassador class that's a great ship

[@davemcbeardface8976]

Omega Ordained That's brilliant! The Ambassador Class is my favourite!!

[@OmegaOrdained]

The Ambassador class is a very close second to my favorite the Galaxy class. There's a funny thing I noticed when I was building the Ambassador class model, there are crew quarters like 10 feet away from the Buzzard collectors and I can imagine their entire crew quarter being lit up red all the time like that episode in Seinfeld where Kramer his apartment was lit up red and he went crazy, crazier LOL

[@davemcbeardface8976]

Omega Ordained hahaha

[@sovak75]

Actually the class name for the ship was most likely chosen by starship designer Larry Maverick in honor of Dr. Maranda Jones a woman he was in love / obsessed with (‘Is There In Truth No Beauty" TOS). Also really should do a dry run on your script before you record this so that you pronounce names correctly or at least close to correctly. There were numerous miss pronunciations in here many of which were very drastic. It makes you come off as unprofessional.

[@merlinbalog3971]

You forgot to Add the Enterprise Galaxy Class Starship ?

[@leonnoblesnobles6675]

She's a beau, I'll take a 100 of them.

[@ozziemederos]

Reliant prefix code is still 16309 no over ride