The History of the White Star Line

[@talesfromanoldmanpatoneal6372]

I'm sorry..... 1 minute into the video and you've got me hooked. The white star line story has more holes in it than their ships! 😂 Epic!

[@justinlynch3]

To be fair the Great Eastern did at least find one job it was good at. It's said the Eastern did a fantastic job as a cable layer.

[@Cappy_real]

Greate Eastern was the best white star line ship. I mean look! It has hot paddles and a very pretty bilboard. I wonder how much did the tickets cost on the *-biggest ship ever built-* Biggest ship built back then.

[@prestonhanson501]

Yes or a fantastic billboard

[@misterfitzgerald]

@lime master Wasn't it meant to go from Britain to Australia? That'd require going through the Atlantic Ocean, and the Indian Ocean, and required a lot of fuel without waiting at port (which was the reason for her size?)

[@danielcallender8649]

The seas are just as rough in the Indian and Pacific oceans.

[@amaritineenthusiast]

Was a good billboard too

[@newbatgirl]

The running Great Eastern gag is one of 50 things to love about this video.

[@robertschultz6922]

😂😂😂

[@jonathanstewart8106]

I love that you defended Ismay actions on the night, he was a hero. He knew the ship was sinking and he put a lot of effort into getting passengers into the boats

[@davidhusband5022]

yep, fake news media still demonizes people today. always remember, if the media hates them, the people love them.

[@merafirewing6591]

@@davidhusband5022 very true to that.

[@catreader9733]

I agree that J. Bruce Ismay was tarred by the press and US. investigation and left undefended by his own countrymen, who covered their own reputation and role by doing so. But I think he was culpable in putting the RMS Titanic to sea when the ship was not ready or safe to begin a revenue Transatlantic run. I am not referring to number of lifeboats alone, because that was permissable and customary; I am referring to design changes or failures to accommodate the great size and tonnage that were no match for the coal fire(s) and an iceberg.

[@organicmethamphetamine2391]

except he's the very fucking reason why the ship hit the iceberg in the 1st place

[@catreader9733]

@@organicmethamphetamine2391 I don't entirely agree, but I respect your view, and you might be correct. I do think J. Bruce Ismay was at fault, but not solely. Captain E.J. Smith built himself a reputation of dash and "full-speed ahead" in ship handling and had already shown insouciance in handling the Olympic, of similar size, tonnage, and power. If Ismay was the instigator, then Smith was a willing tool.

[@lynndeschambault1067]

Love the "dry" humour. " hugely huge" " This was dumb" Keep them coming. Love it!

[@allentoyokawa9068]

humor**

[@BenSWilliamson]

In the majority of the English speaking world it’s “humour”, including England. “Humor” is a minority spelling used in American English.

[@gingerdude]

​@@allentoyokawa9068American English is English but dumbed down

[@madwax4771]

@@BenSWilliamsonminority.. lol

[@Ertydsaser]

Him mentioning the great eastern multiple times is hilarious😂 its crazy how big it was 692 feet and it was made in 1858 titanic was built 70 years later and still less then 200 feet longer

[@obsessivecorvid]

same, i love all the SS Great Eastern references

[@reesespuffs1943]

*54 years later

[@mafiousbj]

Proof that we can build very large things, but mostly what stops us making them is practicality ^^

[@hallamhal]

The fact that a ship built in the 1850s was still the biggest in the world 40 years later, and was the first to have power steering, that's bloody impressive! No wonder Brunel's still talked about so much today

[@SwagCat852]

It is the largest ocean liner of 19th century

[@Madhouse_Media]

Do people talk about Brunel today? I mean, I'm a classic ship weirdo so I'm familiar with him but aside from maybe ship and British railroad buffs, how frequently old Kingdom come up in conversation? 😁

[@Madhouse_Media]

Do people talk about Brunel today? I mean, I'm a classic ship weirdo so I'm familiar with him but aside from maybe ship and British railroad buffs, how frequently old Kingdom come up in conversation? 😁

[@matthewbowen5841]

@@Madhouse_Media He comes up at family meal time at least once a week for me. Is that odd?

[@furioussherman7265]

​@@matthewbowen5841 I think it might be.

[@DrummerJacob]

I've been working on board all three Queens for Cunard line who currently own the white star brand for about 7 years now. They even have what we call 'white star service' along with many of the old traditions. When you're new to the company we have a training course for the history of Cunard and white star line and it's quite fascinating all the way through.

[@superheracross89]

Carnival owns Cunard these days

[@DrummerJacob]

@@superheracross89 Yes, they have 8 brands and so far Ive worked for 4 of them :)

[@shaynewheeler9249]

Titanic 2 engine cylinder engineering room

[@luknotshiphile]

Someone should make a video game where you’re in charge of a shipping company and you have to build ships and unlock technologies and handle money and stuff. I think it would be fun!

[@varen4662]

I'm on it ;)

[@ahmedAhmed-bi2it]

‏‪32:00‬‏ 💁‍♀️

[@luknotshiphile]

@deathknell5167 really? what's it called?

[@PlushPineapple]

@deathknell5167 yes what is it called?

[@antlionworkerfan2007]

Your ships still gonna be smaller than great eastern like 90% of the time

[@Astronist]

Worth remembering that the great ocean liners transformed warfare from about 1917 onwards. For the first time it became possible to move entire armies across thousands of miles of ocean in a matter of days.

[@pastelskies8466]

Astronist: As did the advent of airplanes. That totally transformed warfare.

[@claytonhess5512]

​@@pastelskies8466 As long as it wasn't the Christmas Bullet. 😂😂

[@SQUAREHEADSAM1912]

I’ve seen it multiple times, and it never gets old, Only better.

[@thejagotishow]

I agree, better than any documentary!

[@DanielReyes-nm3lw]

Two times?

[@SQUAREHEADSAM1912]

@@DanielReyes-nm3lw no, more then that.

[@DanielReyes-nm3lw]

@@SQUAREHEADSAM1912 oh sorry I forget this was reupload

[@kjgallaga]

it was reuploaded

[@jordanwildey9439]

I just discovered your channel a few days ago with the Artic story, I really enjoy the way you present these stories. Thank you!

[@kylecorser9817]

Same!! It was so cool I subbed

[@brandonhoefer6151]

I appreciate the humor about the Olympic during the war 😆 She had a field day out there *gigglesnort*, I had no idea so many of WSL's ships were lost during the war or that one was what caused the Halifax explosion.

[@rokas-d8o]

The Mont Blanc was also owned by a civillian transatlantic company,french line.

[@ZGryphon]

"... and seemed to enjoy running down smaller ships."

[@LoadingFishMode]

I was looking for this video and the history of White Star Line Ships a few days ago. Thanks for re-uploading!

[@wintersbattleofbands1144]

Too bad he didn't take the time to fix the boo-boos before doing so.

[@ethanhatcher5533]

Didn't even realize this was a reupload

[@asteverino8569]

Thanks for a well written story. A well narrated story. And that recurring gag to the old paddle wheel ship.

[@DeiseRebel]

I toured The Nomadic recently and it was amazing to be on A White Star Line Ship.⭐

[@jamesholton2630]

I wanted to point out that the nomadic is not the only white star line ship. There are clones of the rms titanic in many places like china and pigeon Forge Tennessee

[@amaritineenthusiast]

@@jamesholton2630 Yeah but Nomadic is original and real, those are just replicas that have 0 history in them.

[@richterkleiber]

Such an amazing video--clearly so much time and effort went into it, and as usual, Tom's ability to tell an engrossing narrative holds up to repeated viewings. Gladly about about to watch this again, with a cup of tea. Thanks so much~

[@fizzys26]

This wasn’t just informative and interesting, it was funny. Thanks for the great content!

[@sunnyscott4876]

Interesting and enjoyable. The CGI is very nice. The historical pictures are awesome. Well done, sir!

[@SeriosProductions]

An absolutely great vid as always, Tom! The humor of this vid is just what a documentary needs!

[@karlogastastrandasel1118]

Thank you. Your documentaries have kept me busy all night. Very well done, very informative and entertaining and not to mention great production values.

[@A.P-r2c]

0:54 Wow you just roasted them worse than the Normandie fire🔥

[@Boypogikami132]

I guess he meant the many portholes on the WSL’s ocean liners

[@QueenBee-gx4rp]

My grandmother crossed on the beautiful Normandie many times to France. When I was little, my parents brought me along to see her off from the pier in New York. We would go in to see her berth, then explore the ship; so the film of her burning just kills.

[@azander1958]

Man thanks for this I'm getting interested in Ocean Liners lately and white star line and Cunard are some of the things that makes me interested the most so thanks for sharing WSL History

[@chadfolkers628]

Tom. Love you and your passion for maritime history. I love it too. May I make a request? If so, I would so appreciate your effort to bring to us the history of the famed Delta Queen, the sternwheeler that, as I speak, is undergoing renovations and soon to be returned to service on the Mississippi and Missouri rivers. She's a gem. Your passion would do her a service.

[@Patrick_Knowlton]

the running great eastern gag was absolutely flooring. great video!

[@Milos15GameplaysYT]

I have to say, Levi's work he'd put a lot of effort into this video and Lucas Gustaffson's models are really impressive. Nice job, you two :)

[@prestonhanson501]

It's a crime shame we didn't at least keep one of the ships for posterity. I don't think any other will compare to the beauty of these ships. Absolute nostalgia these ships are. How wonderful it would be to sail on one of them

[@amaritineenthusiast]

I live near the last white star line ship, the SS Nomadic, Titanic's first and second class tender. In Belfast where it is we even have an outline of the Titanic and Olympic which is an exact size on the former slipways.

[@FD_and_B]

it’s “crying shame” nimrod

[@musicauthority7828]

I believe the Queen Mary is a floating museum are something like that. anyway it's still around.

[@matthewbowen5841]

And even the one famous remaining one, the QM, is financially sinking as we speak. These relics just can't really be repurposed or kept up long term without burning piles of money.

[@pastelskies8466]

When Titanic was found, I was against raising her. With rusticles, bring her up!!

[@mwheape]

I really love the music you feature in the background of your videos. The best so far is the use of the Vaughan Williams piece with the wreck off Halifax, Nova Scotia. The use of Air by J. S. Bach, misattributed in the credits, provides the right touch as well to the video on Robert Fulton.

[@jerijerod14]

Don't want to be "that guy" but HMS Hawke, which collided with Olympic wasn't a destroyer, she was an Edgar class protected cruiser built in 1891 (sunk by U-9 in 1914) much bigger than the destoyers/torpedo boats of the fleet.

[@radarmike6713]

Would really love to see you do a evolution of the Cunard line. As they are the current holders of titanic and all of the white star legacy. I feel it would only be fitting...in my opinion at least.

[@Vladimir-Putin-]

The Great Eastern is a mood honestly

[@smoceany9478]

incredible bold yet disappointing? yeah same

[@nevinhedley1797]

You are a gifted historian. Thanks for re-uploading.

[@codystrainsnjazz]

Thank you for re-uploading this!

[@drimachuck]

White Star Line and Cunard: trying to build bigass ships Great Eastern: exists

[@fatproduce]

Oh hell yes! The first of two of my favorite maritime documentaries on KZbin! I can't wait for the second part!

[@gaylemc2692]

You have followed your passion and that makes us all the more richer. Thank you

[@slotselectagamblingchannel7452]

My mate is a ismay from maryport cumbria. He is a double of Bruce ismays father. He is a great great grandson of the ismays. A really nice guy aswell. He never ever mentiones titanic tho. I only knew as I done a lot of research on titanic and he was shocked to find out he was linked. When he asked his family about it they told him its true.

[@aprylrittenhouse4562]

Your choice of music was awesome.

[@sophiazaichenko415]

What a splendid channel! I am by no means knowledgeable about ships, but I love the romance of it all, and I can't get enough of the content. Just a little question, though: is it possible to list the music in the video as well? The opening piece in this video is absolutely majestic, I would love to have it in my playlist. Best wishes! Edit: my apologies, I have only just realized the music is credited at the very end of the video!

[@deby5983]

@Part-Time Explorer Love you narration, the information you impart and your snarky remarks ("the now billboard great Eastern" 😂😂😂😅) Thanks so much for the research and presentations you share!

[@mattywanders]

Would love to see your take on the USS North Carolina in Wilmington NC. It's been meticulously restored/maintained, has an amazing story, & is even rumored to be haunted! The City of Wilmington itself has some cool history & nice waterfront scenery too.

[@amaritineenthusiast]

Same here in Belfast with Nomadic! Though he probably made that video somewhere.

[@toddgilmore8412]

Thanks for the awesome History on the White Star Line. Keep up the great work Tom!

[@arnepianocanada]

Terrifically presented. Thank you.

[@Brock_Landers]

Man, Anton Logvynenko has made some amazing marine paintings over the years along with colorizations of original black and white Titanic, Olympic, and Britannic photographs (and other ships). His rendering of what would have been the Oceanic III is absolutely stunning. Man, if only the WSL had been able to secure the funding for the completion of that ship, it would've been a record breaker built before the Normandie and the Queen Mary. Then, when the Cunard Line went to the Admiralty to secure funding for hull 534 (RMS Queen Mary) to resume work during the Great Depression the admiralty agreed, but ONLY if the WSL and Cunard were to be merged, creating Cunard White Star...until Cunard dropped the White Star from their name on December 31st, 1949. As most of us know, the motor vessels (diesel powered) Britannic and Georgic were the last White Star ships (created from the remains of the planned Oceanic III).

[@sashh2263]

Celtic, with a soft C is the name of a Scottish football club. It used to be the common pronunciation as a word from Greek and Latin, but the hard 'c' links more closely to the Irish, Gaelic and Welsh languages and began to be used in about the 8th century.

[@Vingul]

That’s weird, because Greek has more K-sounds than English (kyklops, not sy-klops), and Latin «C» is pronounced as «K» as well (Kikero and Takitus, not Sissero and Tæssituss).

[@gdownz1044]

Nothing like a good Buster Keaton spot during a White Star Line video. Nice touch Tom. 👍🚂🚢⚓👍

[@leahdrook5161]

22:06 I laughed at part she seemed to enjoy running down smaller ships

[@TheWium14]

This is one of my favourite videos on youtube to watch. I have watched it multipile times

[@elnino8985]

Wish Olympic could have been saved, it'd be incredible experiencing Titanic's sister and learning about the engineering marvel of that time

[@Ouranorable]

"The early history of the White Star Line is spotty, poorly documented and filled with nearly as many holes as their ships." FRIEND, you didn't have to do them like THAT xD! I'm still laughing minutes later omg

[@DarthMeteos]

This video is the greatest video on the White Star Line ever made. Well, except for the now thoroughly played out Great Eastern.

[@ChickVicious237]

Love this video as well as the one showcasing the ships themselves. The Great Eastern comments are wonderful, too.

[@LegoStudios-xx9kb]

I was just looking for this 1 week ago, thanks for reuploading!

[@amezzeray2]

Very interesting video! Now I want to research of the Great Eastern. That's a wikipedia and youtube rabbit hole that will take several hours of my life

[@skullsaintdead]

Naw, I've never seen someone with such a fondness for a ship long dead, the Great Eastern. How endearing. Also, always thought you were Canadian as you have a really nice narrative voice, I normally find some American accents grating (I'm Australian) but yours is lovely.

[@DistractedGlobeGuy]

He's definitely from New England. Notice how his "Æ" vowels always turn into more of a "ıə" diphthong.

[@skullsaintdead]

@@DistractedGlobeGuy Ahh interesting, thanks for the info.

[@kongthemayor5481]

I love how the great eastern has become a inside catchphrase in this channel

[@duffinthemuffin5792]

alright that meme you showed at 24:49 was pretty good

[@TJ_Altimore]

OMG... The subtle snark in this video is absolutely cheat code world class. Haha... I love it! Been opening LOL'ing. Brilliant writing that is even better than ever. ;-) Thanks for the grins, @Part-Time Explorer!

[@DonnaBrooks]

3:14 "This was a dumb idea..." I love the way you say that and just keep going on to the next thing that happened! LOL!!

[@TheMightyCookieShow]

The disassembling of the Olympic is perhaps a maritime crime in my mind. They should have left the ship intact imagine the tourist opportunities for today especially given the fascination with the Titanic itself to be able to go see a ship exactly like her in the Olympic would have been amazing.

[@timpmurph71]

Referring to a pronunciation of Celtic as the “British way” irks me more than it should, but other than that this was a phenomenal video lmao

[@heels-villeshoerepairs8613]

"Except for the eastern" touch of humour in an intensely articulate presentation, nice.

[@thekrakenfromagario]

how many ships do you want to loose: white line star: yes

[@charlesjakesamadan4008]

They didn't Lose much for such a Large company, Most of their sinkings were from The Wars then their Own Operation

[@thomasdaniels6824]

@@charlesjakesamadan4008 Facts.

[@willgeary6086]

I was wondering where this video went, glad it was re-uploaded.

[@birdie9240]

So WELL DONE, sir! 👏🏼 This was super well done. Love the call backs to the Great Eastern 😆 (a billboard!? Really?!) lol

[@hhiimmddoo]

This is probably the best video on the white star line. Freakin hysterical

[@FacesoftheForgotten]

Someone may have mentioned this already, but everyone in Europe and America pronounced it as “S”eltic (like the Boston Celtics basketball team) until late 1800s/early 1900s where UK pivoted to “K”eltic yes they still pronounce it today. That’s maybe why the steward pronounced it that way.

[@lynndeschambault1067]

Also love your " well largest except for.." theme

[@carolinenorman9997]

Wow I didn't realize that there was so many . Thank you so much for the video 🙂

[@cruzdirector8637]

Great documentary with unexpected laughs! 👍🏼👍🏼 “ That’s what happens when you show off your stuff, people go home and copy it!”😂

[@marshalynnkane5853]

I haven't heard of most of the ships mentioned in this document. Very interesting.

[@MadDragon-lb7qg]

Great vid. Just to say Celtic with a hard c is preferred as we tend to use it for the Celtic people and Celtic crosses. Also I live near to Southampton which doesn't really have a harbour, the docks are on the banks of the river Ichin which opens out onto the Spithead, and into the Solent that runs across the north of the Isle of Wight.

[@isaacpeachey8609]

The only places I’ve ever heard it pronounced with a soft c is in sports.

[@MaximGhost]

I had to take a break in the middle of this documentary to go watch another documentary .. about the Great Eastern.

[@jonathanmills3256]

Congratulations, this is such a well made documentary

[@OlOleander]

This is the longest ocean liner presentation I've ever seen... aside from the Great Eastern, of course.

[@oleksawa2282]

love that little ship continiously moving through the horizon throghout the entire video lel

[@lilpotato7428]

I've had a passive interest in shipping history for some time but your videos have me hook, line, and sinker so to speak. Your narration and presentation is far better than any others I have seen on youtube! The only slight gripe I have is your pronunciation of Melbourne, in Australia & NZ its said more without the 'o' sound. It sort of is said more like Melburne with a soft almost unspoken 'r' or Melbin. Obviously by no means a big deal, your videos are fantastic, I just thought that unless people have lived or have visited in Australasia they won't know our pronunciation :)

[@blakedelaney156]

This is my favourite video on youtube. Well, besides the now-deleted Great Eastern.

[@Miguel_and_The_Microbes]

Great storytelling. Good narrator. ((Lots of pronunciation errors but I’ve yet to find a documentary that is perfection. ))🎉

[@RU4MU]

Excellent job Tom!! And great new updates to the video too! +

[@TheRageAcademy]

Good choice of music bro!

[@oscargrey4858]

I like how you gloss over the tragic loss life of the Titanic.

[@Xamry]

I thought at first I was trippin’ when you were mentioning the Great Eastern multiple times. I was like oh… oh! Oh wait… is this circling back around?😂

[@puterboy2]

Thanks for reuploading!

[@phillgoldsmith252]

What an amazing video. Full of facts and history about white star line.

[@Jus.Keep.Swimming]

The references to the Great Eastern sprinkled throughout had me laughing.

[@joe.d.1]

Hello, mate. I enjoy watching your videos.

[@TammieRay-ff4is]

I'm actually doing research on white star line. THIS HELPS ALOT

[@joannewilson1162]

I just found this channel and this video. It’s interesting and you have a great voice…and I liked the few jokes about the great eastern! 😆

[@mexstudios6753]

I have known of Titanic about since 2016 I was very surprised that there was more to the White Star Line history besides the Olympic Class after watching this video. I really enjoyed it. Edit: Can I please know the name of the music used in this video I really enjoy it.

[@NauticalStudy]

Return of the King

[@kennywowie]

second time through even better. So very excellent and fascinating and FUNNY! Poor Great Eastern. Do you know Sting's song about Isambaud Brunel off his "Last Ship" album? A great song off a great album about a Great Eastern. Love your music choices throughout.

[@PartTimeExplorer]

Yup - love that song!

[@g_men2121]

It is a shame they did not save the olympic and use it as a memorial to the Titanic since they were identical

[@mclatchyt]

Am I the only one feeling sorry for the Great Eastern? Poor ship didn't deserve the fate she got. :(

[@PCrailfan3790]

They took her apart and she was also a billboard

[@TSWest]

Fantastic video. Well done young man. You put the history channel to shame.

[@lucasread1743]

Indeed

[@Texuhsperisn]

Me at the 20th minute of the video: *finally, the titanic*

[@sadiedavenport]

Scuttling a ship with 1,200 horses.... That upsets me so much. Every time.

[@HBippy]

Hi 😊 you’re documentaries are captivating. Its fun to learn the shipping terminology too. I have to check the dictionary to get the meanings and its awesome! Thank you

[@simplystreeptacular]

This gets better every time I watch it.

[@ryantimm9748]

“And seemed to enjoy running down smaller ships” 😂☠️

[@Mr.Norway.Animation]

Lmfao