The Hobbit An Unexpected Couple - Bagginshield

[@ebonier2044]

"Go back to your books and your armchair, plant your trees and watch them grow... If more people valued home above gold the world would be a merrier place"

[@GrevyTrain]

Flora865 *cries*

[@mariaclaragomesdecarvalho4117]

STOP 😭

[@ButterflyScarlet]

All I could think of was "WHAT DO YOUR ELF EYES SEE"

[@paula_az]

What do our shipper eyes see?

[@paigestubbs9718]

I was in a play version of The Hobbit: my cousin was the goblin king

[@SnarkyPhilo]

Awesome vid! as for me, I am a bit of both. I ship from tv shows/movie and from book series myself. As for Thilbo, i never really got into the fictions, but I do enjoy the fanart of it all. The tragic death scene between the two at the end also sort of reminded me of the scene from the tv series Archer in which Woodhouse recounts some of his past in the first season and the death of his old war buddy on the battlefield whom was also alluded to as his lover or romantic love interest. the death scene that plays into that type of tragedy story trope (exceptionally close "brothers in arms" whom one or both die in each other's arms) seen in media a lot and sort of primed me and likely others to homoeroticize the death scene. As soon as I saw it, after the film I was like: "There is goign to be so much shipping of these two" lol.

[@meakamaxwell1]

Smouglock is my pairing

[@spencerfrankclayton4348]

3:16 Who are those two?

[@zayasi4410]

I think they are Aragorn and Legolas, Aralas

[@purplecobra52]

@@zayasi4410 The world of LOTR ships is very confusing indeed. lets keep it that way.

[@yoonji-m2389]

I didn't really instantly ship Bilbo and Thorin because I wasn't really looking to ship anything ( AND THEN ) the "letsshipeverthingthatmoves" Part of my brain kicked in. I started to notice chemistry between the two and how much eye-fucking was going on. Then I thought "A lonely Hobbit falls in love with a dwarf king and realizes that life is more than a hobbit hole and fine china.....only to lose it all in the end" I fell in a hole called "Bagginsshield" and haven't crawled out since.

[@ThorinsChild110]

Yup. That's how it went for me too.

[@GrevyTrain]

Oh yeah same

[@Jazzitiswhatitis]

The horror but so true 😱😰😭

[@sugarbunny6235]

Are we the same person or do we just share a braincell-

[@LightningBottle9352]

GET OUT OF MY ROOM YOU STALKER

[@VelkanKiador]

There is one thing that makes Bilbo very shipable in gay ships, he never gets married. Pippin, Merry and Sam all get married to women but neither Frodo or Bilbo ever get married and mostly live alone (Except when Bilbo adopted Frodo). It is easy to picture both being into men and that's why they have aren't married.

[@VelkanKiador]

And I am a movie shipper, though I do have a few book ships like JonSatin since Satin Flowers never made a appearance in the Game of Thrones show.

[@vickymc9695]

Bilbo dose get call a confirmed bachelor in the books. A euphemism for gay at the time.

[@veronika4870]

yeah exactly...Tolkien may not have written a romance between him and thorin but he also wrote bilbo as never marrying...which Thorin also didn't...Kili and Fili were his sister sons...he himself had no children we know of...

[@LyingRose]

VelkanKiador Yes!

[@leslieshE]

Thilbo shipper for life.

[@LyingRose]

Leslie Speaks X200

[@asheskept5344]

Same

[@helliomagne9488]

Yesss

[@lucamagic]

Yes!!

[@ruithebaguette2862]

I'm surprised you didn't mention the Acorn Scene... My heart is tingling, time to watch my precious director's cut again!

[@sierramccutchen3531]

I am more of a movie shipper simply because its easier to build a connection between two characters. I was completely content with the length of the Hobbit movies because it gives us so much to enjoy. And yes, I am a Thilbo Bagginshield shipper.

[@ceruleantear1]

I first fell for Frodo and Sam. Their relationship in Lotr is so amazing. I saw the potential with Bilbo and Thorin in the books, but the movies make it much more noticeable. I'm so glad that fans still write fanfics even though the movies are over.

[@cisnt9244]

You don't even need to know who the characters are to get the ship feels, I mean..there was a scene near the end of Return Of The King and I woke up right in the middle of it and I was like "yeah that's pretty gay where's my laptop"

[@GrevyTrain]

Eriotl Ampora was it the acorn scene? Cause me too

[@veronika4870]

which scene do you mean? (I ship Thilbo so don't worry no hate here ;)

[@IRiboty]

wait The Return of The King? You mean Gigolas then?

[@zayasi4410]

Did you all know that according to JRR the whole Shire thought Bilbo had ran off to get married?! 🤣🤣

[@veronika4870]

daaaaaaaaaaaaamn

[@mariaclaragomesdecarvalho4117]

NO WAY 😂😂

[@morganyoung3557]

This is my Tolkien movie OTP, I also love the movie version of Thorin so much, he was a very interesting character and I was genuinely sad when he died. Also it was an added bonus that I found him to be quite attractive too which was a rare thing for a dwarf character. I also like to think that Bilbo did what he did with the Arkenstone because he loved Thorin and feared what it was doing to him. Also love the ship whether Bilbo is male or female in the fan work.

[@crazykenna]

Thranduil and Bard: Barduil for life! Single dads of Middle Earth helping each other through a crisis, Legolas becoming friends with the Bardlings, so many Soccer-Dad AUs! Such a great pairing, I’m totally trash for it.

[@mrsbaratheon]

crazykenna yesssss

[@rachelisweird8098]

OMG I DROPPED EVERYTHING TO WATCH THIS MY FAVE OTP

[@crescentmatcha]

My father and I both love The Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit. He sometimes doesn't understand the concept of shipping and really doesn't care about it that much. That said, I love Bagginshield so much. Admittedly, The Hobbit trilogy was flawed in certain areas despite overall being an enjoyable series. But if it got anything right, it was the characterization of Bilbo and Thorin. Also, kind of unrelated, I've noticed with straight couples is that when a boy and a girl become friends, they're expected to date one another most of the time. But with gay ships people are always like "nooo they're just bros ". I thought about this mainly because Thorin and Bilbo's relationship was said to be brotherly. But I think they had the potential to fall in love. I just think people aren't used to gay couples, so they don't realize it when two people of the same gender are attracted to one another. Or they'll use the "they're just friends" explanation. Just something I thought about.

[@WibblyWobblyEtc]

what you're describing there is heteronormativity; the expectation that an unrelated man and a woman will always have a romantic dynamic between them, even despite evidence to the contrary or a lack of evidence, but that two people/characters of the same sex will not, even despite evidence to the contrary.

[@veronika4870]

my dad's similar

[@fuzzyeyes6]

I remember last year I accidentally stumbled across this ship on Pinterest, and while the fanart was cute my reaction was mostly puzzled amusement like: "Really? Where'd you get that one?" The thing is though, when I first saw the first Hobbit movie I was only 12, and had yet to ship a single gay ship. So when I rewatched it last year, I felt like I was getting smothered by ship potential and by the end scene where Bilbo saves him and Thorin hugs him I was just like: "Oh." "There it is." And then proceeded to sell my soul to a ship I never expected to ship. And then made my best friend even more obsessed with it than I was. Good times.

[@Blather306]

I grew up on the Hobbit (and lotr to an extent) but I never shipped anyone in the book; in fact one of the reasons I loved the story was the lack of romantic subplot and the focus on friendship. I wasn't disappointed by the length of the movies, but I was annoyed by the additional characters (all the elf drama? Really?) and (unfortunately?) I fell hard for the Thilbo ship. It caught me completely off guard and none of my friends could see it, but I swear to you its there 😂 Wonderful vid as always!!! Thanks so much for sharing

[@veronika4870]

it is there I know...as soon as you open your mind/eyes a little it's so obvious ;)

[@blooded_hunter9456]

If more people valued home above gold, this world would be a merrier place - Thorin Oakenshield

[@lighteningtwin7547]

For the shire, baggenshield may their love never die.

[@nijinoshita3301]

I didn't think of taking the hobbit to isengard until you mentioned it... damn I do ship bagginshield but I don't really read fanfics of them, also I ship Legolas/Gimli xD

[@akechijubeimitsuhide]

I watched the exntended editions and - now that I love Richard Armitage a lot more thanks to The Crucible and Robin Hood - I fell right into this ship. They just work, and it's tragic, which I always like. For LotR, I wasn't that much of a shipper (although Faramir/Éowyn made me very happy in the book, they deserved some good after all the shit they went through). The Silmarillion, however... oh boy. Maedhros/Fingon. Túrin/Beleg. So much angst.

[@sissidahlstrom8237]

When I wacth the movies i was wating for them to kisa THEY NEVER DID😭

[@rachel7030]

I love the Tolkien world and mythology! In regards to the Hobbit movies, I loved them but thought that 2 movies would have it justice. Either way I was just happy to see that world on screen again. I didn’t care for the Kili/Tauriel relationship. Did anyone see the Gandalf/Galadriel ship? 😀

[@heartless2412]

I'm a bagginshield. I ship both and can't wait for more!

[@machin8593]

You're so cute! I had no idea! I really love your extensive analysis of why and how the ship came to be. So interesting!

[@buttonsforbooks]

Legolas and Gimli for life

[@thescarfispurple5727]

Yes thank you!

[@stephanielorraine1898]

my otp too but love so much thorin and bilbo

[@2210jordanclayton]

YESS!!

[@kathleenbradley7142]

Yes this and Thilbo is my LOTR OTPs

[@waffledolphin9251]

Personally I really love Legolas/Gimli, Tho I never find a ton of Fox’s for that pair.

[@IRiboty]

not even in archive of our own?

[@EthalaRide]

Thranduil... just... How do I even start with this guy. His and Thorin's hate/love relationship, the speculation about his backstory and face, how glamours he is, speculation with Legolas' mom, etc. I don't even know how much screentime he had but DAMN I couldn't go on tumblr without seeing him for the longest time.

[@helenaa1116]

this bought back all my emotions from a couple years ago aghhhh i shipped them SO MUCH

[@rachelm9046]

I love the book, and was disappointed that they didn't only make just one movie. Changes to Thorin's character also made him way more likable and noble pre-betrayal, whereas in the book he was a snobby prick the whole way through. That's what makes his apology to Bilbo and redemption that much more meaningful. The actors were prefect, the problem lied entirely in script and direction.

[@bmokeeffe]

I'm a book and movie shipper! Bagginshield is one of my favorites! :D This video was amazing! :D

[@sarahgregory3369]

This has been my OTP since the first movie came out! Yes! Bagginshield forever!

[@glazeliights7025]

Can you do an episode on Frodo and Sam?

[@jokerstrueidentity]

I've been in love with this ship for years And I'm more the movie shipper

[@Egyptkisara]

I feel like all my opinions about Lord of the Rings/the Hobbit is heavily biased because I never grew up with it the same way other people did. I only watched both series 5 years ago or less, so I don't have the same investment. Personally I loved the Hobbit, despite some people saying the movies weren't objectively good and I absolutely adore Bagginshield.

[@nicodemusfleur]

HA that 'Red Eye' mention! I am so there with you, I remember right after I watched that movie when it came out on DVD, I went and read everything there was on ff.net (as this was pre-ao3). They had so much chemistry!

[@sbyamibakura]

BEST Hobbit ship. In case anyone wants a fic rec, this is THE literal best fic for the ship. Nothing else I've read compares: archiveofourown.org/works/658324?view_full_work=true

[@verob2002]

phoenixjustice YES!!!!!

[@zayasi4410]

I read it when it was a work in progress, my God there is just SO MUCH *angst*

[@xxpiggysquishyxx6816]

I actually ship smaugbo lol

[@xxpiggysquishyxx6816]

Xandra Nicholai not kidding :/ I know it's kinda weird but I ship it.

[@stephanielorraine1898]

with a dragon ? wtff lolll ^^

[@briannaweeks6357]

xXPiggy SquishyXx Bah! I love that

[@jessicamartin2048]

So you ship beastiality.....😐

[@lanalukaci44]

BAHAHAHHAHAHAH I CAN'T BREATH-

[@bererjs]

I honestly loved the movies, and if you read the book first you will always be disappointed by the movie adoptions no matter what the movie is or book. I personally enjoy the movies and honestly cannot wait to see this world return.

[@VikingMermaid]

I never thought about shipping Bagginshield until I saw An Unexpected Journey. I've always shipped everything that moves (especially if it's gay lol) but when I read the book I really couldn't ship anything. But in the movies it's impossible for me to ignore the chemistry between them. Also, none of them gets married (or at least has a crush on a woman or something like that) and that makes easier to think of them being gay. They are my fave OTP. I also ship Thranduil/Bard and Aragorn/Legolas, btw.

[@johnnytestsuxz]

I ship Gimli and Legolas

[@blaublaubeere]

Oh god this brought back so many feels! Still one of my absolutely favoutire ships, and I'm very glad it's still going strong. For me Gigolas or Gimlief or Gimli/Legolas is another very dear ship of mine (well...my ultimate if you will) and I think its journey is very interesting bc couple of years ago it was relatively small and unknown ship and always in the shadow of Legara (Aragorn/Legolas). These two with Hannigram (Hannibal Lecter/Will Graham) are my number one OTP - yeah can't decide between them :D Now...I think I'm gonna go read Sansûkh bc it combines both of those ships.

[@mieroth]

Hell yes, Thilbo!

[@2210jordanclayton]

Legolas and Gimli all day everyday!

[@michaelbrent854]

Can someone please do DreamWorks/Disney crossover shipped namely The Big Four (Jack Frost,Hiccups, Rapunzel and Merida)? Please ?

[@erikw.s.5209]

Could you do a video on Enjoltaire?

[@CaseNumber825]

Definitely more a movie shipper who really didn't care about the length or expansion of the lotr/hobbit movies... I like to lose myself in a fantasy world for a while so having them be so long winded helps with that! Though I'm more a casual shipper of these two, their chemistry can't be denied after all, a different Tolkien pairing owns my soul... It's Aragorn/Legolas (Aralas) ... I can't help it... I love them together! I even live for the tiny hint in BOTFA... And just for interest in general I ship the most from video games, then from tv shows, then movies, then books/comics... Would love to see some video game ships on this channel but dunno how easy it would be to do research without playing the games (watch let's plays maybe??) At the moment Joseph x Sebastian (from The Evil Within) and Corvo x The Outsider (from the dishonored series) own my entire soul!

[@crimsonblack9774]

aragorn and legolas also so harmony harry x hermione please

[@Luanna801]

As someone who read The Hobbit as a kid, I think a large part of the reason this never became a major ship back in the day is that Thorin's character in the books is taken much less seriously, and his relationship with Bilbo is given a lot less depth. Book!Thorin isn't really portrayed as a noble leader looking to take back his people's ancestral homeland so much as he's portrayed as a pompous old guy (his main role in the earlier part of the book is giving long-winded speeches that bore Bilbo to tears) who wants to get a bunch of gold. And y'know, he's not described looking nearly as dreamy as Richard Armitage, so. :-P All of that makes for a much less shippable character. And to my memory, he and Bilbo aren't portrayed as having a particularly deep bond in the book either, certainly not to the extent the movies gave them. So there wasn't really as much basis for a ship. And in answer to your questions: - I did feel that the Hobbit movies dragged on too long. Fleshing out the characters was good and some of the changes and additions they made were great, but even with that in mind, there was absolutely no reason they needed three movies to adapt this book. One would have been plenty, two at MOST. I didn't even bother seeing the second two movies, because they were just adding so much it didn't feel like The Hobbit anymore. - I'm not heavily into Hobbit/LOTR fandom, and so I don't have any major OTPs, but the ships I do have are pretty predictable. Aragorn/Arwen and Frodo/Sam are the two I'm most into. Not really surprising when you look at the books or the movies, I think. - Book vs. Movie Shipping - I'm definitely both! Some of my earliest OTPs were from favorite books of mine as a kid - Anne/Gilbert from AoGG and Taran/Eilonwy from The Prydain Chronicles being two of the earliest and still among my absolute favorites. I think I'm pretty good at visualizing the characters and scenes, so I never /needed/ the visual aspect to ship. But with rare exceptions, visual media tend to have larger fandoms (in my experience), which definitely helps with shipping culture. PS. Loving your necklace and manicure in this video!

[@Art8mis]

im both I'm a movie and a book shipper

[@melol560]

I freaking love the Thilbo ship

[@cadettipk]

I'm a TV shipper. I've slash-shipped Thilbo since the first movie.

[@ceciliamoksn]

Thanks for making this video! I love Bagginshield so freaking much

[@thorinswife6349]

I love the hobbit movies! They are my favorite as well as the Lord of the Rings, I really like this ship and I also like a lot of other parings in the movies and books.

[@purplecobra52]

Why do people turn him into a girl? VERY CONFUSED

[@Who-Am-I...]

Bilbo/Bofur shipper here. Bofur was the first to accept and care about Bilbo. And was always worrying and looking out for him. Plus Bilbo can be so serious sometimes, he needs someone with a big heart and fun loving spirit.

[@laurenjcoates]

Do BROTZLY! Dirk & Todd from DGHDA

[@mayorofsimpleton5674]

Hehehehehe

[@rax0018]

And I thought I was the only one who noticed their chemistry!

[@antrazitaj5209]

I ship both books and movies/TV, but not always the same way. For example for Harry Potter I only go after book canon, the movies are not a factor for me. And don't get me started on the stretching the Hobbit to 3 movies...

[@mariaclaragomesdecarvalho4117]

I love Bagginshield!

[@briannaweeks6357]

I never thought about thilbo and I think that had to do with my fatigue by the end of the last hobbit movie. But now....hmmmm I’m going to have to go back and analyze! I hardcore ship Frodo/Sam. Absolutely loveeeeee that!

[@maddyhoke3907]

Wait... Bagginshield, but not Hobbitlove???

[@ClaireRousseau]

I'm assuming that's because there are other Hobbit ships, like Sam/Frodo.

[@shecabear1]

I say that I'm more of a movie shipper, I like to see how the chemistry between the characters are played out but I tend ship characters from television shows a lot more than books because I love seeing how the relationships play out or deciding which two (or more) characters that I would love to see together (whether in canon or fanon). Sadly, I don't read a lot of books to fully say that I ship characters through books.

[@samuellightwing5467]

I never saw this... but I do now.

[@mrsbaratheon]

Barduil is everything.

[@hallo12997]

can you do Merlin and Arthur (Merthur) from BBC Merlin?? There’s a LOT of shippable moments and it’s adorable :,)

[@lunamalfoy7]

I'm mostly a tv show shipper. I get more content that way most of the time. Stupid movies being less that 24 hours long. Book shipping second. Comic Books shipping third. Movie shipping last.

[@ClaireRousseau]

Me & Bilbo hanging out together in the Richard Armitage's Face Appreciation Society.

[@ilikechoccymilk5605]

I thought this was a YTP

[@oblivionwalkerr]

Thilbo is the best :D

[@ginaweaver4119]

5:05 Actually, I know of one Thilbo fanart from 2008, done with the characters in the Rankin-Bass version style (and don't worry, it's rated G): smurfwizard.deviantart.com/art/TH-Your-Beard-is-Soft-79784466 You're welcome. :)

[@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634]

+Gina Weaver lol that person must be thrilled they can claim ultimate hipster status should they so choose.

[@Luanna801]

That is awesome! Looking at the comments it seems they weren't the only shipper, either.

[@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634]

People shipping old man Thorin with really hobbity Bilbo are amazing the characters film hotness was a reward for their dedication lol

[@Luanna801]

/laughs/ Good point! I have to wonder if part of the reason the book didn't attract many shippers is simply... none of the characters were described as looking very attractive... :-P (Not that shippers always go on looks, but y'know, it helps.)

[@axlrackley3416]

I never shipped these two I actually shipped Barduil

[@qharris6845]

I love you Sasha Woods. Miss you on io, etc. Glad to have found you here!! Hope your great and your family. Much blessings.

[@owlsofthenight_yt2000]

Damn I never thought of them together. But now I watched the movie again im freaking out thinking. IT COULD BE

[@1998tikishark]

I LOVE Thilbo and I'm more of a movie shipper than a book shipper

[@morganyoung3557]

Shardy1998 same here because the movies make the characters more interesting especially Thorin, the books made the characters very one dimensional and rather uninteresting.

[@stephanielorraine1898]

Thorin/bilbo and Gimli/Legolas are my fav OTp forever

[@mitkit99]

Aragorn and Legolas!!!

[@stephanielorraine1898]

as brotp yes !

[@zayasi4410]

My favorite Lotr ship 😍

[@PapagenoDispo]

TOMCO OR SMAUGBO PLEASE

[@spencerfrankclayton4348]

7:40 ❤❤ 8:05 😍😍

[@dragon_of_the_word_1405]

My babies! !!!!

[@leivangel4977]

I loved this video!

[@shippersguidetothegalaxy6634]

Thanks, I just picked it up at a thrift store :)

[@forlornhauntedghost]

Thilbo ❤️🤪☺️ I love all the Hobbit movies and I'm glad we got 3 cause more content 😅🤞😉 I wish their were more movies 🍿

[@aw3zom3zauc39]

Yeeeeees I love this ship :3

[@panic_lov3108]

Legolas x Aragorn

[@zayasi4410]

🤝

[@callmeeko517]

I um... I saw a new show and... am the only one that ships a Church boy with an Atheist police officer... why did i comment this here? Because life.

[@veronika4870]

I love both books and movies but I think I find more ships in movies/series

[@veronika4870]

five years later at the same video - film shipper XD

[@stoneandflamesstudiothegur5276]

legolas x Aragorn

[@zayasi4410]

🤝

[@Maximillienifyx]

I love the movies, never read the books (sorry). I like Legolas and Aragorn ^^. And I love Thranduil ^^

[@daniellemhall1358]

I dunno ... I would watch avid about the Bronte sisters writing Duke of Wellington RPF fics. That is if you would consider it.

[@Devon1238]

Could you do a video of puzzleshipping/blindshipping from Yu-Gi-Oh or Suzalulu from Code Geass? Maybe put them up for polls?

[@juliejackson3909]

I love Thildo (or Bagginsheild)! A I also love Arowen (think I'm spelling that right) and Aragorn from the original movies! I would say I'm more of a movie shipper. :)

[@fragmentedghost5391]

Im a book shipper

[@broedddel7243]

I was watching this movie the first time, and even after a few minutes (and not really knowing their names) I already shipped them :3

[@Writing4MySoul]

YES!!!! I love Thilbo so much!! I like both books and movies, but I love the visuals of movies and TV more when it comes to shipping. It helps me to read fanfiction of characters whose faces I’ve basically memorized.

[@melchiorlise2466]

I ship Bofur/Bilbo

[@blueblue930]

Great video! I really enjoy the hobbit movies and am still a Bagginshield shipper

[@patchworkpapers8162]

This was a weird pairing for me, because I felt like the 3rd movie suddenly portrayed a really intense close friendship between Bilbo and Thorin that wasn’t built up to in the previous two. I found it more jarring than shippable.