THE HOBBIT TRILOGY 4K ULTRAHD BLU-RAY REVIEW | AS GOOD AS LORD OF THE RINGS?

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[@Sactown15]

Im glad to hear that they touched up the CGI. The thing i liked the least in these prequels was the CGI Orcs and Goblins. I missed the prosthetics they used in LOTR.

[@dws6x292]

Prosthetics were used in the films but not for the main orcs. They went with prosthetics for the main orcs at first (more specifically Azog) but while filming the design wasn't working and they went with motion capture which I thought was fine personally. You still got a actor performing the part and the design was cool.

[@friedpickle8332]

@@dws6x292 This. Hadn't rewatched the Hobbits in a while and it honestly surprised me how many of the orcs and goblins were practical for how much whining and moaning some people do over how "everything is CGI! Waaahhhh!!!". Azog and Bolg look fantastic imo, especially in 4k.

[@mddifilippo89]

those who have not watched the Battle of the Five Armies Extended is seriously missing out. The extra scenes are insane.

[@leohaddad9225]

I will make sure to check it out

[@andymontanez56]

Good looking out!

[@elliottw4948]

Haven’t watched it since I saw it in theaters. Might check out the extended edition sometime soon

[@TomlinsonHolman52583]

Do we get all of Gollum's riddles in the Extended An Unexpected Journey?

[@MrKYT-gb8gs]

You mean it's better in 4k? Cause I the movie in the theatre and it was not good... The originals were great though.

[@breadroll3967]

Got my copy of LOTR and Hobbit yesterday. I know a lot of people hate The Hobbit but I really enjoy it. As an adaptation of the book, it's very stretched despite featuring a selection of source material from the extended works of Tolkien but as a middle earth based, high fantasy adventure movie, it's still superb in it's own right. Looking forward to watching both trilogies on 4K over Christmas. Great video as always.

[@xXrapidkillerXx]

I’ve been a massive LOTR fan since seeing them in theatres as a kid and I must say I really enjoy the hobbit movies as well,strangely I found I watch them more as they are more relaxing to watch , massive thanks for the review Jeff 👍

[@scottyee707]

agreed, at first I couldn't accept Bilbo but as time when on I did, and now those movies just give me fun happy vibes, Fellowship does too

[@melissalayson7275]

Same here but the extended versions are way better. Especially Battle of the Five Armies.

[@mrbobo86]

The second movie is definitely native 4K. It's very sharp picture quality. Even more so that the first movie. Especially the dragon and gold scenes

[@wolfgangpuff7030]

It was my understanding that only the 3D theater showings were 48fps. The regular showings were 24fos. The reason for doubling the frame rate for the 3D showings was to cut down on additional motion blur that fast action scenes inherently suffered from when viewed in 3D. My personal experience from what I remember was that the heavily CGI scenes looked more fake due to the frame rate in 3D.

[@arianrahman5886]

I never understood the hate for the Hobbit trilogy

[@xXrapidkillerXx]

Same I enjoy both trilogies for different reasons

[@dws6x292]

I love it very much but I do understand some of the complaints. They ain't perfect but still very good.

[@Carfilliot]

We all like different things, I loved the LOTR trilogy and only watched the first Hobbit and hated it. I felt the action scenes were very silly compared to LOTR, hard to explain I guess but it was just too over the top. The scene with the barrels in the water comes to mind, and another where I think they were in a cave and falling, looked like they fell about 1000 feet, tumbling and rolling and getting up without a scratch, i’m going by memory and it’s rusty lol but I just recall my wife and I both finding it overly silly so we didn’t even bother with the rest. This is not ‘hating’ its answering a question as to why I personally didn’t like it, comparing it to the scene in the fellowship where there was an air of danger to the end, Aragorn and baromir fighting for their lives and it showed, where as in the hobbit I felt like the hobbits were fighting like marvel superheroes. My comment is harsh, I ask that you read it subjectively, I’m not saying the film is ‘trash’ im just trying to explain how it felt so different to the original trilogy and maybe that’s why it wasn’t so well received. It wasn’t the cast, they were great, so were the locations, music, and overall polish, it was the action.

[@lisajay7099]

Because it's lazy, bloated and doesn't respect the book at all.

[@originalbadboy32]

The problem is that LOTR is pretty much perfection, The Hobbit was as never going to match that. Personally I don't mind them, all three films have issues but they are not bad films not even close. And way better than the Starwars prequels regardless. Also given the production issues we are lucky we got them at all.

[@TimofejNenarokov]

Was on fence, but after your review will get Hobbit 4k set. Thanks for great job!

[@dreyn7780]

It wasn't a great review. The world has changed since these movies. They're not even relevant anymore.

[@bighands69]

The Hobbit trilogy is not as good as LOTR trilogy but it is still good set of films to enjoy.

[@alexroyster182]

I agree, I liked them but I don't go out of my way to watch them multiple times. Now the original LOTR I can watch those any time anyday and it never gets old. I love those movies. Back when those were first released i didnt go to the first one and wished I did because I then waited for the extended versions to play in theater and went to all of those and wow just perfection. Especially the Return of the King. That was one of the best times I had in the movie theater. There wasnt a dry eye in the theater by the end. I was going uh I got to walk this off 😆

[@zZiL341yRj736]

But it has a bunch more likeable characters and some memorable music.

[@thekingofinfinity]

Well nothing is as good as LOTR trilogy but yeah I agree

[@bighands69]

@@zZiL341yRj736 The music in LOTR was better than the Hobbit by a mile. There are some likable characters in the Hobbit but nowhere near the level of LOTR. The Hobbit also messed with the story too much and the end with King Thorin was not as good or emotional as it was in the book what should have happened with Thorin was a last charge out like Helm Deep instead it felt like a damp squib.

[@zZiL341yRj736]

@@bighands69 Well I liked the all 13 Dwarves, Bilbo, Bard, Tauriel and Thranduil. While in TLotR, I just like Bilbo and Sam, I thought Aragorn, Merry and Pippin were just boring characters.

[@alicejane7595]

Ang Lee actually shot Gemini Man at 120fps. Only a handful of cinemas could show it at that frame rate but it meant that it could be halved for 60fps or divided by five for standard 24fps and retain even frame pacing.

[@michaelgriffin3537]

Same with Billy Lynn

[@alicejane7595]

@@michaelgriffin3537 I thought so. Didn't want to say though because I wasn't a hundred percent sure.

[@smokinjoe32927]

Awesome, AWESOME transfer. I LOVE these disc. Earlier this year it was announced this set was delayed until 2021 so I bought the digital version on VUDU but I had to have this 4K version and couldn’t be happier.

[@JulesFox]

I went to my local JB Hi Fi and pre-ordered the 4K of LoTR. Thanks for your great reviews Jeff.

[@jim54329]

Hi recently found and subscribed to your channel great content, was wondering what 4k player/surround sound would you recommend

[@joshuastoll6808]

Awesome review again. I have hobbit and lotr extended blu ray but probably won’t be upgrading the hobbit just yet. But I did purchase lotr 4K and a whole bunch of other 4K movies that you’ve recommended including Jurassic park and a bunch of other trilogies. Excited to watch them all. Have any recommendations on a sound system? I just got a Samsung soundbar s40t to intro away from tv speakers and browsing around for something more serious soon.

[@davidshead1323]

I'm glad you've said about the grading in conjunction with the VFX, Im rewatching the Hobbit extended trilogy atm and an unexpected journey looks great but the conflict is structured really strangely in the movie whereas the desolation of smaug I thought was really bloody great until the end where loads of shots just look unfinished with composited shots that don't look graded and not blended in well with each other and if not for that it would have been great all the way through. Excited for five armies again as the extended cut improves that a lot imo, even though these films were rushed I think they still have their heart in the right place and they look gorgeous and I'm glad they're now getting some more time to be refined as they deserve to be fully immersive.

[@dreyn7780]

Soon they'll seem like the wiggles running around. I feel sorry for you sitting through all these historic documents. They look like a bunch of kids to me. Peter Jackson has got old. I'm old now. These characters seem like stupid kids to us now.

[@MichaelGreco]

I picked up both sets. Haven't watched them in years but used to watch them all the time back in the day. Looking forward to watching them chronologically again!

[@dalmo8340]

Fantastic review. Thanks 🙏

[@joetilocca1233]

Another great video Jeff. Well done bro. It’s sounds like u have COVID-19. If that’s the case get well soon buddy. Getting these on Tuesday can’t wait to check them out.

[@jarrodkingsley6242]

I’m not sure if you have ever made a video on speakers but could you in the future make a video on the best speakers out there for 4K TVs and Home theater set ups? I have been interested in looking into speakers/ sound bars but have no idea where to start and what kind to look for in terms of the best quality at a low to mid scale budget!

[@dandaigle007]

Great review! Thank you. Little audio issue? Sounds like your mic cut off at 1:04 and the camera picked up your audio😉. No big deal. Can't wait to get these next week!

[@JeffRauseo]

Hmm that’s odd. Maybe it disconnected?

[@dandaigle007]

@@JeffRauseo possible... Again no big deal. Wanted to give you a heads up that's all. 🙂👍

[@jmchez]

It's funny that I tend to repeat-watch the Smaug scenes from "The Desolation of Smaug" and "The Battle of the Five Armies". I also go back and forth between the original English track and the Spanish track. Love how Cumberbatch played out the sarcasm and whinniness of Smaug and the Castilian voice actor followed suit, even exaggerating words the same way, as in the light / luz combo.

[@Trojan0304]

Nice review, wait for Middle Earth edition summer 2021

[@veronicareitherreese6671]

Curious about the Ultimate Collector Middle Earth set currently available. Is the same as what will be coming out in the summer? The set looks awesome. I am wondering if I should wait till summer or get it now. I want the 4K version. Thanks.

[@joetilocca1233]

Great video Jeff. Well done. Sounds like u have COVID-19. Hope u feel better real soon. I’m getting both sets on Tuesday. I’m sure I’ll love them. Be well bro. 🌈

[@willemdebruyne188]

Can you do a comparison video where we get a better understanding between the differences between the newly rendered special effects?

[@tienenaar2295]

Is there already some info on what the "Middle Earth boxset" will contain as too extra's? In dubio about getting these version or wait a few extra months to get the boxset.

[@colbyspitz8699]

Video idea I’m interested in, not sure if others people are too; How do the 4K players on the PS5/Xbox Series X compare to players you purchase separately? Is it worth buying a dedicated 4K player for movies or will it work just as well using a console for both? Just an idea and something I’d be very interested in

[@justinhess2462]

Hi Jeff. I have a question. I have samsung 4k tv 2018. Should I upgrade lg 2020 model will I see a difference??

[@omarrivera0108]

Jeff! Great work man. Please keep it going. BTW: Feedback on your new intro. This one doesn’t resonate with me as much as your prior into. The new intro feels like I’m being into a Music Lover channel. The prior into made me feel and settle in as if I’m going into an amazing Home theater!

[@JeffRauseo]

Fair point. I think I may change the intro again. thanks for your support!

[@terminatorpalm237]

Hey. I was wandering if you could do a video about disc rot. Found out that this was a thing today, and I’m wondering if you have a worry about it or if it’s not common. Don’t think there is to many videos out there covering this topic, so would be interesting to see you’re take on the problem.

[@thehunter7422]

Love both of the Trilogies. Can't wait to get the bigger version of this . Kind of wished Peter Jackson would've done this re extended rumour that we have been hearing about and release the bigger version of the extra fighting and talking scenes that we've never seen yet cause they couldn't put every scene in the Theatrical nor extended version . I want the Helms Deep battle to last for more than an hour lol . Also I wish other people would've known this too but Tolkien did not plan the Lord of the rings to be a sequel . They had 2 different vibes to them . The Hobbit was meant to be a kid's book whilst Lord of the rings is a little more serious. And of course Silmarillion is even darker lol. The fact the CGI could've made it goofy or weird looking made it have that child experience but also felt like Lord of the rings vibes for what I felt in some scenes like the three trolls scene or The Spiders scene . Smaug and Sauron scenes were just beautiful in the Hobbit Trilogy. Can't wait to see these beautiful movies in 4k . I'm excited.

[@dws6x292]

The Hobbit was always my least favorite of all Tolkien's works and honestly loved how the films were done for the most part. I got into Tolkien through the lore and not necessarily the books at first. After reading the lore and the rest of the books I can't look at the Hobbit as a simple children's tale anymore. Every time I read the Hobbit I think about what is going on in the background and I can only appreciate the Hobbit in the context of the larger lore and I love what was added to the story in the films. I thought visually it looks great and while it has faults I am very happy with the Hobbit trilogy overall.

[@thehunter7422]

@@dws6x292 that's exactly what I was doing too . Once I watched the extended Trilogy I bought the book and when I heard names of charecters , places , items I just see the film's in my head and it helped alot . Haven't finished it yet but I'll eventually go back into reading it once I have more time. But yeah Lord of the rings and Hobbit extended Trilogy , can't get enough of. Hopefully Peter Jackson can get involved with a couple episodes with the Amazon series . I hope. I want him to get involved with the second age stuff . Since he did show some of that in the prologue of the fellowship of the ring and the armour and stuff looked amazing .

[@GhoulishGwyn]

Watching all six extended editions in one marathon really makes it all feel like one coherent saga. These trilogies are just so long, the transition across trilogies is a big arc.

[@dreyn7780]

1997 is over buddy! It's 2020 and Star Wars rules again. You're historic.

[@pietroscarpa2384]

@@dreyn7780 lol, Star Wars is dead at this point. Such a disappointing trilogy.

[@ianrichardson62]

I bought both extended trilogy's in 4k from Itunes, do you think I'm missing out much by not having the disc version?

[@warrenbeer2737]

Already ordered the lord of the rings trilogy so I think I’ll wait a bit to get this, maybe when there’s a drop in price but thanks for the review Jeff!

[@BigDeez05]

So VUDU just put out 6 LOTR Extended UHD set thus weekend. Is VUDUs streaming legit 4K or better to wait for disk?

[@LtCdrRoyFokker]

Noob question here... are 4k UltraHD blu-rays automatically HDR by default or do you have to inspect the technical details to ensure that they are? I understand there are different standards (HDR, HDR10, Dolby Vision) that they may have but I'm just asking generally if ALL 4k ultrahd discs are HDR to some degree. Thanks in advance!

[@kappy0405]

I've never seen one without HDR, but I would guess some of the early 4K releases didn't have it.

[@LtCdrRoyFokker]

@@kappy0405 Thanks!

[@43bigsteve]

You’ve talked about the Dolby atmos a lot on this and the LOTR review. Would you recommend a 5.1.2 atmos setup over a 7.1 surround? Think I might ask for some height speakers for Christmas and do that instead of 7.1

[@rauland]

5.1.2 Atmos is the better audio format. If you can do 7.1.2 or even 5.1.4 even better. 7.1 is a processor upmix of 5.1. I don’t believe anything was ever recorded in Dolby 7.1, 9.1 or even 11.1.... it was all 5.1 up mixed in the receiver.

[@43bigsteve]

Craig Foster thanks for the advice. Ya, the receiver I have now can only do 5.1.2 or 7.1. So looks like new speakers are going on my Christmas list!

[@nickbiales]

I know this is a silly thing, but does anyone know if it includes the behind the scenes that was in the original extended edition?

[@DonJoeBob]

Can't wait to get these sets. This is not directed at you, just a general statement on the series... but.. LOTR is a favorite all time series and because of that high bar, The Hobbit films get unfairly judged. If LOTR is 9 or 10/10, and The Hobbit is 7 or 8/10 - that's a great legacy for the franchise and Jackson. Of all 6 films, I'd give them all 8 or higher, they are wonderfully epic films we very rarely get anymore. Reminds of of The Godfather 3, fans were upset it wasn't another 10/10 masterpiece, crazy, I was just excited to get a final chapter and that it was as good as it was pleased me just fine. BTW, I'm excited for that new edit coming soon too. Congrats on the booming success of your channel, you deserve it!

[@scottyee707]

Also because there so different to me it shows a good contrast in time and how things are changing

[@willthorson4543]

I enjoyed them. They are what they are. Maybe too long, but fun just the same.

[@LtCdrRoyFokker]

I wonder which portions will be deemed inappropriate in the years to come and "cancelled" right off of the streaming versions.

[@darrenblizzard3851]

@@LtCdrRoyFokker won't matter if you own the physical discs. You can just give the big finger to the woke SJW types and watch your uncensored physical media in the comfort of your woke-free home 😉

[@Jake-nd4gx]

@@darrenblizzard3851 Seriously that’s another reason to own physical media, a shitload of platforms have removed “problematic” content from their libraries or put stupid warnings in front of them.

[@orgasmatronbeddows9242]

@@Jake-nd4gx I'm glad I'm not alone, when I upgraded my young ones VHS years ago...one of the songs was removed due to some copy right issues. I personally don't like any digital downloads, unless it is the only format it can be purchased on (certain games on switch). I much prefer the physical copy.

[@EpicB787Animations]

Wonderful: Highest quality blunting of knives, and bending of forks- smashing of bottles, burning of corks. HDR quality of chipping glasses and cracking plates... This is a 4K transfer Bilbo Baggins hates!

[@shannoncurry2037]

can you a lord of the rings version of this comment that was badass

[@JJTeam-yr6tb]

Dang, I really enjoyed HFR was hoping to see it like that again. I was blown away when I saw it in theater in 3D. Wasn't too impressed with Billy Lyn though, I was hoping to see it again again after almost 8 yrs to see how I feel about it now.

[@bighands69]

48fps would look amazing in an animated film like Avatar 2. The problem with the Hobbit is that it can be hit or miss. Some scenes it looked amazing and others not so.

[@dragje]

Great review, very to the point! I got the blu-ray version, and it's tempting to buy these as well. But... I'm not that much of a pixel-peeping purist, I think the movie itself, the acting, are absolutely more important than the image quality. I've several HDR UHD discs, and my projector is able to project 4K and HDR, but I never found it that important. Same with sound. Of course, good sound is crucial, but I never thought of re-arrange my audio set-up to enable Dolby Atmos. This also has to do that I live in Amsterdam the Netherlands where neighbours are easily triggered by to noise.... :) By the way, I totally agree with your reading about Lord of the Rings and The Hobbit, I've read the books 7 times when I was younger, the movies are great but the books are a whole another ballgame to be honest

[@grahamoliver3306]

Happy Thanksgiving from down under 🇦🇺

[@ryanp.3578]

Thanks for the good content on your channel. I noticed, however, that your eyes are out of focus in several of your videos. I've subscribed and will look forward to your next videos.

[@TheDanGore]

Will next year's 4k collection releases include the special features? As someone who doesn't own any LOTR dvds or blurays I would love that to be included in the next collection.

[@dreyn7780]

The main characters aren't getting old with you.

[@stevemuzak8526]

Which CGI effects they fixed? I can't find any information about that.

[@sergiouggiano3899]

Hello! I don’t believe I have Dolby vision...will it still impress with just HDR?

[@almaudo3]

Overlooked movies in my opinion. Cant wait for my copy!

[@dws6x292]

They have their faults but I think they are pretty underrated and in a way misunderstood.

[@tommy.32221]

Torn on if I want this or not. Love LOTR and will binge it in a minute. Only reason I’ll prob end up buying this is my OCD to have the complete middle earth saga.

[@alexroyster182]

I was just looking at my DVDs and I have the original Lord of the rings extended edition trilogy and those are still so cool with the nice big box with maps and booklets. Great artwork and just real cool figurines for each movie. I gave away the figurines to a friend years ago for a cool Danbury mint figure of Walter Payton so that was a nice trade. A ceramic figure signed by sweetness with a letter of certification and only 5,000 made. I looked at how much those figurines are worth now and damn they each are quadruple worth more than the Payton figure but I don't care I love Walter Payton and he's the reason why I watched football and love the Bears. I got to meet him back in 1997 and he was the coolest person I'd ever met. Just a down to earth good human being and I was so starstruck I forgot to ask him for his autograph 😆

[@windfire5380]

LOTR is easily the best set of movies ever in my personal list. Hobbit isn't quite there, but I love JRR Tolkien, middle-earth and really appreciate Peter Jackson. Must buy for me.

[@nationalcoasternews5798]

For both trilogies is their any difference in quality between the theatrical and extended cuts?

[@daweedpotrawa3042]

Yes the extended give more indepth information about the world and the characters, especially the lord of the rings. Also it is in its most scenes more true to the books. For me the extended versions are the only versions

[@andyk7967]

Anyone know why the UHD runtime for An Unexpected Journey is 7 minutes longer than the previous extended cut when the other 2 movies are the same?

[@sonigokuu]

I saw the first Hobbit in theaters, but I only perceived 24 FPS when I did. Might've depended on the theater and the kind of projector they used.

[@JohnDuraSSB]

Are they ever going to release the high frame rate editions??

[@flim-flammington]

When rewatching a movie series with prequels, do you watch it in the stories chronological order or do you watch them in the order they are released? Just curious what people think about this, I tend to watch the prequel first. like i'll probably watch hobbit first, and i'll probably watch star wars in its chronological order. I dont think theres a wrong answer here it's just preference. Just wondering how people tend to lean.

[@kappy0405]

The story's chronoligical order.

[@theish9]

What is the best 4k player to get. I have a Sony a9s and am in the market to get my 4k collection up.

[@loco3514]

Panasonic ub820/ub824. Enjoy

[@theish9]

@@loco3514 already grabbed the Sony 800. Preciate

[@WayStedYou]

It's a shame they couldnt do 48 frames I really liked it in cinema. My dad couldn't tell the difference

[@brucecarter6205]

I agree. I enjoyed the 48 frame myself. The action scenes were incredible at the higher frame rate.

[@bighands69]

The 48 frames per second looked amazing in certain scenes like the outdoors but for many other scenes it really took away from the fantasy feeling other times it added to it.

[@brucecarter6205]

@@bighands69, I agree. I really only enjoyed it during the action scenes.

[@themastrelmatadordelmar544]

I can't find anything about Blu ray restoration on the hobbit. Could you elaborate on that please?

[@keithtrickey3482]

Im in Australia got them pre ordered at JBHiFI coming out on 2nd December & i sooo can not wait 😋 great video 👍

[@dreyn7780]

It's not a great video. You're 20 years older. You're seeing the product from a much older perspective.

[@michaelstorer9567]

Received my steelbook edition yesterday, absolutely stunning packaging.

[@peaj4812]

Where did you buy it?

[@michaelstorer9567]

@@peaj4812 from the Warner Bros online store.

[@MrMarsFargo]

2:25 regarding the worse CGI, this film suffered behind the scenes from a lot of last minute studio interference before filming. Originally PJ wanted to shoot these ones with mostly practical effects as well, but due to the studio screwing him over was forced to shoot the movie without any storyboards or shots planned. As a result of having to come up with ALL the shots on the day of filming them, the team couldn't have any practical effects ready in advance and were forced to go with CGI (to better accommodate having to create shots on the fly). This is also why PJ was forced to shoot the films digitally instead of on film, because digital was more economic for coming up with shots on the fly.

[@bentertainmentproductions8451]

I just rewatched the 4K remaster for The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey and I thought the visual effects and the color correction was a lot better compared to its theatrical release.

[@jameshorton7496]

I have both LOTR and The Hobbit coming in 4K Steelbook. One if coming by mail, the other I pick up at a Best Buy.

[@Carlos-gc4hb]

Thanks on the review, I’m excited about getting my copies on Tuesday.

[@dreyn7780]

I feel sorry for you. At some point you'll outgrow these movies.

[@Babylon5Lurker5]

Great review. Can't wait for mine to get here. Thanks for suffering through watching them. LOL LOL 😂😁😂

[@dreyn7780]

Now that You're 20 years older it will seem like You're watching the wiggles running around.

[@CameronKiesser]

I preordered on Amazon. Bought LotR via Walmart. Only seen the 1st Hobbit when it came out, nothing else. Only once. I can tell the difference between fps with fps comparisons but it's not a thing I look for as it's not important whatsoever in quality when you view an fps on its own. IMO. Needed to watch these. Thank God I heard about the 4K before getting the BluRay. Phew.

[@Celestialrob]

I’m crazy. Zero interest in these movies, but still watching your review. You do a great job! 🙏

[@dreyn7780]

Hi Robert. He didn't do a great review. As you pointed out, these movies aren't relevant to anyone accept movie historians. They've dated Badly. Star Wars just makes everything look terribly dated. That product ALWAYS had that effect on previous movies.

[@OllieSane]

Suprisingly, I’m getting the Hobbit trilogy set first before LotR trilogy. I somehow enjoy the hobbit a little more, but I’m assuming since it’s a bit more action heavy and we would watch this as a family constantly

[@bighands69]

Depending on what age your children are LOTR is far better to start with. If you give them the Hobbit it will take away from the ring later in LOTR. One of the cool things about the Fellowship is the mystery of the ring.

[@jimcameron1234]

Same here in Germany this Friday is LOTR trilogy coming in 4K HOBBIT trilogy two weeks ago in 4K

[@Lighthouse3D]

Aw man it would've been cool to see this in 48fps, Gemini Man looks great in 60fps on the 4K disc, I think 4K could handle 50fps they could've up sampled the 48 fps but alas, I wonder if it's possible to do so with the digital version 🤔🤔🤔

[@MovieCrazeYT]

Yes, it's possible to put 48fps footage into a 60fps container; however, it wouldn't be quite as smooth as watching it natively in 48fps because it would have a bit of a cadence to it (about every fourth frame or so would have to be doubled). Either that, or they'd have to interpolate frames, which could cause artifacting. The 24fps 4K Blu-ray makes more sense to me because it's a much simpler conversion -- you just remove every second frame. You get a smoother viewing experience when you don't have odd framerate conversions going on.

[@pietroscarpa2384]

Wasn't the 48 fps just for the 3D, wasn't this the purpose of the higher frames, for better image quality in 3D? Because I remember seeing the first film in regular 2D without the 48 fps.

[@MyFireVideos]

You post about anything Middle earth and 4k, you get more subscribers. Seems right. Thanks for the review.

[@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker]

Those of us who despise the artless pantomime banality of HFR are retrospectively delighted that Jackson shot The Hobbit at 48 fps rather than 60 fps because, although he wouldn't have known the future disc release ramifications at the time, it meant the 4K release had to be in good old 24 fps. Thanks for this video. As much as I like these films in 3D, I'm suitably hyped for this and LOTR in 4K. Cheers.

[@garyharper2943]

Lurking in the bushes?

[@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker]

@@garyharper2943 Ha ha! Hi Gary, good to see you like old Jeff's videos too!

[@garyharper2943]

@@3D_Blu-ray_Bunker like to hang out on 4K sights and sing the praise of 3D.

[@michaelfoster3441]

I have literally watch lord of the rings rings trilogy over 50 times cant wait to watch them 4k and atmos.

[@dreyn7780]

But what brand of TV are you going to experience? They're all unique. Sure You saw something But nobody else knows what you saw cause each brand of TV makes a unique version of the films. Then there's OLED and QLED versions of the films.

[@michaelfoster3441]

@@dreyn7780 I watched them on cx oled this the best the films have ever looked and the atmos track is the best i have ever heard .

[@dreyn7780]

@@michaelfoster3441 I'm sure they're fantastic. But we don't live in a bubble. They're terribly dated. The books were terribly dated when Peter was making the movies. There's So Many films that were great back in the day that are unwatchable today.

[@michaelfoster3441]

@@dreyn7780 I agree with you after watching them , the picture quality isn't that great there old , but what i can tell is the Dolby atmos is the best i have ever heard , over heads rain above .

[@jeffreykaufmann2867]

Maybe you can enjoy watching it 50 times cause your memory isn't that good and you can't remember most of what you saw.?

[@timmigrant6597]

I've done a visual comparison between the Blu-ray and the 4K. Using both The Hobbit and Lord of the rings. I can't say that the 4K is worth it. I have two screens, a 32 inch 1080 and a 42 inch 2160. I watch from a distance of 9 feet. While the color saturation is much better on the 4K, the apparent noise is much higher. When I compare the products to BBC world nature, neither movie measures up on the 4K screen. There isn't a whole lot of difference between the two movies on the 32-in screen, minor improvements of crispness. So the 4Ks will be gifts, and I'll keep watching my Blu-ray 1080p.

[@jasonspears9512]

Anyone get audio cutout/glitch at 1:15 mark in Desolation of Smaug in the extended version?

[@reggiemurphy7028]

You had to watch it in 3D to take advantage of that type frame rate.

[@theperfectbrother]

What kind of TV you have

[@dineshrashid2766]

Here in Australia lotr in 4K actually cannot be purchased at the moment because the demand is so high (which never happens). So I guess I’ll be waiting for the 6 film middle earth set coming out mid next year. When it comes to buying big franchises like this one I do have regrets about missing out on buying the superior sets for said movies. So this is probably the right decision for me. This also gives me a good excuse to punch anyone who says physical media is dying.

[@anonymous_909]

Did you announce the giveaway winners?

[@grantsdonair1]

t preordered both and we get it in canada on dec. first also .

[@spiritus3390]

Does anyone know if the Hobbit 4K has Dutch subtitles? The Lord of the Rings 4K should have them. Thx in advance!

[@thehunter7422]

I'll be waiting to get the Middle Earth collection in the summer only cause I need to save money and also I need to save up for a PS5 . That's gonna be my 4k Blu ray player lol. Might as well pay for something that's hundreds of dollars that can play games and 4k movies and not pay for something just as much that can only do just the movies . It's a smart plan . Just need to wait for more PS5s is the hard part

[@thefifthdoctor6780]

Got it 4K steelbook 😎

[@deloreancowboy]

Are the digital downloads both the standard and extended versions?

[@chriscaldwell637]

Yep, you get both 4k theatrical and extended versions from the digital codes.

[@deloreancowboy]

@@chriscaldwell637 very nice!

[@mannyvega102907]

I was at Best Buy yesterday and they had the hobbit 4K bundle was tempted to buy but really want the lord of the rings

[@dreyn7780]

We can tell you don't watch either cause the first set of movies have dated badly at the bluray release years ago. They're kids running around making dumb mistakes. The older you become the more stupid these movies look.

[@waltertruelove5300]

Thanks!

[@waltertruelove5300]

Love the Hobbit’!!!!!!!

[@JayTor2112]

I'm disappointed they didn't give us the IMAX presentations, with the vertical opened up more. I guess the IMAX was only in 3D though, so I'm not sure if they could even produce a non-3D version of that or not. If 3D for home viewing wasn't considered "dead" now, we might have gotten those too. But they would have had to be 1080p. What really bugs me about this and the LotR 4k releases is the fact that they will have us double dipping again for these, which will make it a...quadruple, quintuple, or even a sextuple-dip possibly, since they first came out on DVD. They will release them again next year with new extras, probably in an all-encompassing box-set.

[@noeldillabough]

they dipped me lol dvds, blu-rays, 3d blu-rays, 4k....eek! I'll probably buy the set next summer too lol

[@blade32232]

Sadly we don't get the digital codes in Australia, which is really annoying as it feels like the version we get has less in it.

[@noeldillabough]

I have noticed this lately in Canada too, for example John Wick 3 no codes (codes in previous 2 movies) and Westworld Season 3 no codes (but in last 2 versions). They're making a big mistake pushing people away from physical media.

[@paulj5336]

I like HFR movies, especially in 3d. Shame they can't combine the two on uhd.

[@CrashCarson14]

Yeah kind of sad we will miss out on some of the original way it was presented.

[@TheAsuraeva]

People hate on Hobbit way too much, great review!

[@iceblock3]

are the digital copy’s normal or extended versions ??

[@30minorlessshortfilms4]

Both

[@4kmoviesdownload2]

The second entry in the Hobbit franchise improves on everything he first film got wrong. It doesn't waste any time and gets right into the action packed sequences. My only problem was the setting change at the end of the film. I felt like it didn't suit the climax. Overall, The Hobbit the Desalation of Smaug is a solid follow up to the first film building on the ideas the first film started. 4kmovies co

[@kippshinabarger8110]

In the theater I went to see the Hobbit movies, they had Atmos AND 48 fps. So, I think Hobbit was done with Atmos.

[@paulnieder4236]

I don't believe Atmos was around back then.

[@kippshinabarger8110]

This theater was one of the first 25 theaters that installed Atmos when it released in 2012. They had big signs at the door of the theater. It was the only theater in our area that had the ability to show it in 48fps.

[@noiselabproject9659]

48 fps. No problem play at 24fps as is provided goto `Trumotion Settings` and set to 50% de-judder and looks great as do all movies in 24fps for me

[@MovieCrazeYT]

It was almost certainly a new 4K DI. Even if they used the original 2K DI as a base, it's very simple to swap it out with a new 4K debayer of the camera footage. So I bet you they re-debayered the RED raw footage in 4K, then relinked the 2K project files with the new 4K debayer, using timecode, and then built the HDR grade on top of that new 4K debayered footage. The CGI elements are probably still 2K though, upscaled to 4K.

[@r8ders2k]

FWIW, on Blu-ray.com, it indicates that the 4K LotR Trilogy is "Native 4K (2160p)" with Dolby Vision or HDR10, and Dolby Atmos or TrueHD 7.1.

[@kappy0405]

How about the Hobbit?

[@r8ders2k]

@@kappy0405 It’s the same for The Hobbit.

[@joejoyce8031]

A spineless disclaimer at the beginning about liking the movies.

[@OldDood]

Hello...Thank you for all your time & effort sharing this info about films with us. I was wondering IF you could share your opinions on what would be a good Solid 4K Disc Player for those of us just getting into the 4K revolution. I have a brand new Samsung Q80T (55") TV set and my older Sony Blu-Ray Player. I would like to upgrade. Thanks Again....

[@jkairi4]

Just purchase a PS5 and you will be good to go.

[@hdeditor]

The Atmos mix should be different. The Hobbit was ATMOS in theaters. I remember seeing Desolation of Smaug in Peter Jackson's flagship "Embassy" theater in Wellington, New Zealand.