The HooXi question / What are the expectations for Team Falcons? - Counter-Points S2E10 (ft. YNk)

Thorin and Maniac are joined by Janko "YNk" Paunović to discuss the HooXi vs kassad beef, thoughts on Heroic and Astralis, the status of the zonic and Snappi-led Falcons lineup, and more!
Counter-Points is a Counter-Strike talk show, hosted by Duncan "Thorin" Shields and Mathieu "Maniac" Quiquerez.
This video was recorded on the 17th of January.
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0:00:00 - The HooXi question
0:30:33 - Heroic
0:43:30 - Astralis
0:55:09 - Will Thorin work any more events?
1:00:11 - Team Liquid
1:20:00 - Team Falcons
1:39:00 - Will zonic have Team Falcons play like old Astralis?
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#counterstrike
#thorin

[@dwasdasdasdads]

damn thorin giving us hope that he might do some events this year i hope it is going to happen boys, some mad entertaining segments would be reaaaaally juicy

[@mysteriousjess.]

Would be nice to see a TO bring him out in an OTT wrestling style with an outfit to match You all know him You all hate him HE IS ESPORTS *intro track* Dramatic entrance etc etc

[@raghavbharadwaj8245]

ig he is too juicy for a to's liking.

[@lafarga2330]

The cs2 competitive season is picking up again and so is lfn content (I hope). What a time to be alive

[@ronitarora8373]

Holy shit thorin roasted Shaq and didn't flinch.

[@evolvedHE]

I don’t think Thorin alluded to doing big events but seeing him at Copenhagen and/or Shanghai would be amazing

[@Masshorde]

Pretty sure in the past he said he wouldn't do events in China, same as Richard. EDIT: I think I just got confused, he did a few events in Shanghai in 2018-19. I remembered him saying something on BTN with Richard but maybe not then.

[@evolvedHE]

@@Masshorde Actually I think you're correct. I think he mentioned somewhere in this recent video on the topic (kzbin.info/www/bejne/oaK4qnWjq92IeJo) that he wouldn't want to work in China anyway. I'm not gonna rewatch the whole hour to find it but I'm pretty sure he mentions it towards the end where he's discussing possible options.

[@lafarga2330]

Thorin at the major would be wild

[@LemureLemure]

Hopefully one day we are going to get a dedicated Thorin + Ynk podcast.

[@atahannd.9937]

not that I at all think it will happen, but another r lewis thorin podcast would be amazing.

[@luvhcchris]

​@@atahannd.9937thorin and RL along with others are on the lfn movie review channel. Even if you're not a movie fan (I'm not super crazy) they have the same energy and it's hilarious to tune in and watch lol. They cover a bunch of classics

[@atahannd.9937]

I cannot wait for duncan on the desk

[@mysteriousjess.]

1:14:18 the look on Maniac’s face is priceless, he knew what was coming 🤣

[@krypt1ccc739]

guaranteed banger right here

[@FreagaZ]

Ynk comes across as so much more of a Niko stan than kassad ever does. Everything coming out of his mouth is placed carefully to paint Niko in the best light possible. I love the contrast, good pickup for the podcast.

[@adr0it]

FreagaZ comes across as so much more of a Niko hater than reddit ever does. Everything coming out of his mouth is placed carefully to paint Niko in the worst light possible. I love the contrast, good comment for the podcast.

[@FreagaZ]

@@adr0it I love it, good banter 😂

[@adityapathania1098]

I agree. Although I think Kassad is way more of a delusional fanboi of Niko. YNK is a Zywoo hater and always tries to belittle Zywoo. I mute stream or skip when either YNK or Kassad are on air.

[@vangod1]

I about busted when I saw this in my feed

[@Hoichael]

respect for being brave enough to tackle the HQ

[@heatedgamermoment]

joke game on form from thorin this episode. Hope to see you on a desk with ynk this year, as far as I'm concerned ynk + thorin is the best analyst desk combo of all time!

[@conorfiler5820]

Excellent show, enjoyed the analysis

[@CritiqueCS]

Full Disclaimer about Twistzz, He didnt leave FaZe cause of not wanting to stay or something like that. He left Faze due to Faze running out his contract and not contacting/initiating negotiations until about 1-2 weeks before the end date. Normally this is done with star players 6-7 months beforehand. Now this might have been due to the internal turmoil of Faze atm, but he felt like he had to find another team. Hence he looked for offers and the two main ones were Vitality and Liquid. Vitality he would've been a replacement for Magisk and a return to alot fo the anchor positions etc. He didnt want that so he chose Liquid where NAF and Skullz takes care of the anchor roles.

[@morthal6976]

3 best minds in pro CS

[@AlexMiamorschh]

Oh im looking forward to this one!

[@DutchmanXB]

Lmao I love it how thorin took the first 5 mins of the video to ask ynk a question

[@ProModsPerformance]

Fantastic group here. Keep it up

[@jheymann69]

Thanks for this! Something just in time for my morning commute 😊

[@mangomeow7867]

Banger video mate.

[@svsv1191]

Yanko is always a banger

[@Housewallly]

Thanks ❤

[@jimbobuz]

I'd love to see you at an event sir.

[@jianchen7450]

thanks

[@ItzNick317]

Can ynk start an NFL podcast please? As an American it's the only sport I understand

[@Cheezperson]

Yes!

[@fjejejjrbskjwjw163]

Ever since cologne cs has Been feeling a little stale. But with vitality,liquid, astralis and faze We have 4 potential contenders. Gonna make these upcoming events really interesting

[@Masterbaiter69420LUL]

2 out of these 4 teams are not like the others XD

[@Scyborg832]

@@Masterbaiter69420LUL They aren't contenders in their current state. But with 3 or 4 months we should be seeing entirely different versions of these teams. If we don't, then clearly the rosters don't work even with star players in all of them.

[@kiyu_u6009]

I want thorin to do an episode on football

[@evolvedHE]

HOLY SHIT YNK this will be great

[@D4Z3D_]

Reality is Ynk: My boyfriend Niko has never done anything wrong. He is the best player in the world (magically has 0 majors)

[@onecon7745]

No one ever mentions dupreeh he would’ve so great to have in the heroic line up

[@luckstur]

W

[@dayne6475]

no moses:(

[@stef9019]

I have to agree that some "ego" was involved with Twistzz picking Liquid over Vitality. Like you guys said, in Liquid he'll be like the second, maybe even first star with how the roles will play out. If you compare that with Vitality, I love Twistzz but he is not going to compete with ZywOo and Spinx, meaning he'd be in the same spot as in FaZe or maybe even a notch down depending on the match. On paper, Vitality was the obvious choice for Twistzz if you want "guaranteed" wins. That's why I think he chose Liquid to get himself in a better position in-game. Nothing wrong with that mind you.

[@nolawnoorder384]

I think deep down he still wants that star player/rifler role

[@BenKilbry]

Imagine being one of the best players in the world, calling for your B rotate, and you get HooXi....

[@sNiPeR95PwnZ]

I am so excited about astralis, liquid, falcons, the simple situation. CS is back. Now fix the game valve. Or atleast add cl_righthand 0

[@Isitar]

Very, very exciting conversation about Falcons, coaching and Sonic, thx for super vid. Imo Sonic is the GOAT of coaching, and yes, there was difficulties at start at Vitality concerning Apex... in short, it was: Who is in command? It was painfull to watch sometimes... Thx to your great arguments I have now high hopes about Falcons, I think now that Snappi and Sonic can learn of eachother, help eachother grow and become a super leading team. So correct thap ppl have to grow to remain relevant and on top of their game. But look at what Sonic have won, look at his overall contribution to CS, u will be pritty stupid not to listen, and not to appriciate, having him on your team!.Often the cultural side of ppl get a bit owerlooked too, they have the advantage of being Danes - and have another 3rd Dane on the team. Generally, Danes are not much in fawor of strict hierarchy, they lean more towards inclusion and sort of democratic disisionmaking. A culture, that does not go so well with Frensh ppl, btw. (Excuse me for making this comparison: Danes had a royal Frensh husbond to their qeen Margarate, and he had big difficulties adapting... It was a bit unfair to him, but he was nr. 2 in the monarchy. And the Danes had no doubt at all, that was the way it was. But he said: I'm maried to the queen, why am I not the king? He was called a prince all his life... he never got over it... I'm a man, I should be the head of the famely... No.....There are np concerning all those underlying culturall stuff in Falcons leadership, I imagine.) But thx again for great vid, u have much better analizys then I so ppl should just watch, and re-watch, Thx :)

[@t.w.videos1739]

Zonic

[@stefanrauski4455]

Me when I try to talk about CS, but my Napoleon-obsessed alter-ego hijacks the convo:

[@johanwillemse3419]

Agreed, Sonic the South African awper is the GOAT.

[@fVNzO]

Maniac a TeSeS doubter? What is my blud yapping about.

[@kingbrownie207]

In all likelihood, sunpayus, nertz, and maden were trying to stick together, and they were considering heroic and falcons, but in the end nertz couldn't go to falcons because he's Israeli.

[@mikestar7326]

very good podcast probably the best trio in the business

[@tnightwolf]

HooXi is bad and he will be gone in 6 months

[@21whispers33]

He should’ve been gone after Paris

[@tech4172]

BlameF just isn't a Team player he even admitted it he said he doesn't care if players like him or not for being a selfish player this was like maybe a yr or 2 ago

[@ShadowWasntHere8433]

I've never wanted a team to fail more than Astralis with Stabbi

[@vexx362]

where's they calypso thorin. Drinking thorin like a scrub. Go buy some blue lemonade Calypso

[@conorcarrigan5543]

Yall are looking too hard to provide Niko with excuses. Eventually brute force will work in most situations. One cologne/kato for a decade of attempts is pathetic considering the great teams he has been on and his individual rifle ability. He simply tries to control everything and his strategy is largely a losing one.

[@yungmrlin3244]

What is wrong with you?