The Horizon Post Office Scandal Plus Lionel Rishi | Pod Save the UK

[@Dontmakemerun]

The Cloud, cause She's here to throw shade. Oooooooooo😂

[@soniasun1]

I would be happy to become a member of the PSUK club :)

[@Scoddygoat]

When The Cloud arrives, storms follow.

[@DennisMoore664]

She's gonna make it rain!

[@Christina-Claire]

In every landscape, it is important to show systemic failures through the eyes of the people that are the victims of these miscarriages of justice.

[@AminaAmor2196]

I’m a South African listener and I simply love Coco and Nish… they have slowly made into my weekend self care routine. There is something really comforting about listening to the chaos of British politics while pretending to reset my life every week… Also Coco saying ‘Tinder is hell and Hinge is war’ should be made into merch. Please do merch and the podsavetheUK match maker… let’s make it that all former British colonies can participate! 💗

[@nyamburam.waruingi4479]

Love your comment. ❤

[@PlasticBuddha88]

I’m an American listener. One thing my husband showed me when we first met is a video of Brian Blessed narrating a snooker tournament. Absolutely hilarious.

[@AndrewMcColl]

Was that a clip from when he hosted Have I Got News For You?

[@jezlawrence720]

It's year of the dragon... and the 50th anniversary of Dungeons and Dragons. Surely worthy of mention.

[@DennisMoore664]

Holy Gygax, it is the 50 anniversary! Wonder if WotC going to make a 50th anniversary edition to try and cash in some more.

[@Nicholas_Burmeister]

Oh I missed you over the break. Great show. Don't change a thing.

[@aslandus]

I'm with Nish here, I suspect part of the reason Progressives don't talk about declining birth rates is that the solution to said problem is the same solution they'd suggest for much more topical issues like homelessness, child poverty, elder care, economic instability, women's rights, and myriad other problems: Tax the rich to fund social services, fix the broken immigration system, and implement systemic reforms to make the country less inhospitable for those who can't or won't work a 9-5 job. If increasing education for women goes hand-in-hand with them choosing not to have children, that kind of implies that the only people who are having kids are doing so accidentally, which would further imply that the current status quo is pressuring people into remaining childless.

[@jacobwheeler9330]

Hey, let's be honest, starting with the viewership of PSTUK (Even though I'm an American) would be a great start to winnowing down the potential dating pool. I'm in!

[@DennisMoore664]

We need a Pod Shag version for the States because Coco was spot on - Tinder sucks!

[@mariannerady1137]

So good to have you back, happy new year! Really appreciate how you always think of your international listeners and give us explanations and summaries about stories past. Cheers from Germany

[@Vulcanerd]

Quote of the episode by one Mr Nish Kumar, "People don't want to rawdog under a Tory government!" And the distressed look by Coco... And, please, Labour Party, hire this man for your slogans! Then Nish continuing to slay Coco with his jokes such as Pod Sh*g the UK... You guys are the best! ❤

[@priyakuriako]

Enjoy the format of this show. Look forward to it every week. Haven’t missed an episode. Please keep it the same. Wish your listenership increases without attracting trolls to the comment section.

[@amyheckathorn7172]

38:44 Regarding women need to have more children: the existing capitalist & political system was not built to take women’s social, economic, or political needs into consideration when creating public policy. The right can blithely say “women need to have more children” when they do not consider why are women not having children and what can we do to make having children easier. US conservatives think the answer to this is women need to get married! And making abortion illegal. I would like to think the left understands more why the birth rate is dropping. However, the left are scared to propose any social policies because conservatives will scream “how will we pay for it?” The death nell of any progressive agenda. Suggesting we reimpose taxes on the rich that have been implemented over the last 40+ years is not allowed. The lower classes just need to make babies to supply a workforce for the upper classes. Therefore, we are stalled.

[@Christina-Claire]

I think that is where podcasts sometimes are better. The humanising of stories in a podcast or through movies or television is just the ultimate hot knife through butter.

[@AndrewMcColl]

Having the time to tell a complex story more fully is a luxury news shows often don't have. That's why you see newsrooms branching out into the format.

[@kittybluett8887]

Love you guys, following from New Zealand.

[@alicemerray]

There definitely need to be prosecutions in the PO case. The PO and Fujitsu LIED at least twice (but repeatedly) when they said no one else had access to the system (utter nonsense to anyone who has the slightest familiarity with computer systems - how do you do updates if you don't have access?) and when they told the subpostmasters over and over again "you're the only one who is having problems".

[@Vulcanerd]

The UK is wonderful for all the things Mr Harding mentioned, but it's also amazing b/c Coco is there! And you, too, Nish... I won't forget you, mate~ 🤣

[@antewaso8876]

Go Coco The Cloud!

[@billberndtson]

When I was in HS, "Hello" was on my clock radio when it woke me up. I stayed home that day because that's no way to start the day.

[@SarahAnnSays]

I’m game for Pod Save the UK dating! Im a single straight woman from Chicago willing to date an ex pat or will relocate to N. iRE for love 🎉

[@PauldeSwardt]

Why is Fujitsu dominating UK IT Systems? ICL (International Computers Limited) existed as a commercial entity and brand from 1968 to 2002; perhaps the flagship computer manufacturer of the UK until it was finally and completely absorbed into its eventual, Japanese owner Fujitsu.

[@alicemerray]

One of the things the newspapers were doing throughout the Post Office Scandal was printing headlines about 'fraudsters stealing from pensioners' and the like, pandering to a certain part of their readership that loves to hear of wrongdoers getting banged up. Hardly any of them seem to have been paying any attention to any defences the postmasters put up - I realise many were intimidated into pleading guilty to try to avoid custodial sentences - and they mostly showed a real failure of proper journalistic curiosity.

[@seeksustainablejapan]

Another excellent episode - happy Year of the dragon & coco, cloud & being a dragon 🐲 this year could be a perfect combo for you ❤

[@archivegirl]

Such a good point about systemic failure. A very good description of race over here in the US. For, I don't know, 400 years.

[@simonboucher7152]

Well, I am trying that "Pod shag the UK" thing: I am a French-Canadian gay man in his 30s searching for a first relationship. English isn't my first language, I am a civil professional engineer so I am quite locked in where I can work. Aka I am no help for the UK's baby issue.

[@DennisMoore664]

Good luck. I'm straight and in the US so not much help but think the Pod Shag idea is brilliant!

[@tomh.1336]

I just love you guys. ❤ Thank you so much for entertaining me thus well and making me laugh out loud regularly. I don't want to make this about me, so let's just say I haven't had much cause to laugh lately and your pieces always cheer me up. Even if you're talking about horrible things or people.

[@podsavetheworld]

Thank you for saying so! We really appreciate it! :)

[@mixtapesfrommylatepartner]

Coco 'The TITanicS' Khan. She sinks everything on the table!

[@makingsenseofitall1422]

love this content! thanks Crooked!

[@ZeroSilence]

no no no... why has it taken so long for me to discover your channel. ?

[@spaceo8568]

I forget her name cuz I don't care about pool, but the best player in the world (considered) was an Asian woman. I think she just died from cancer not that long ago.

[@StevenHolmes-s3e]

Why don’t they try a system like the Public Broadcast System in America - limited advertising with donations from the public and government?

[@EdwardLindon]

You're being over-generous to the public. It's not journalists' fault that the general public are uninterested in detail, nuance and complexity. The story was out there and many of us knew about it. It took a TV drama to make it a scandal because people are oblivious and uncurious.

[@joannmay-anthony1076]

People can't afford children anymore.

[@Tiggs84]

Great app idea

[@colinthompson3111]

Very good video!

[@juicesnap]

going from listening to Nish on Springleaf to listening to him on this podcast is wild.

[@portoutboy]

Declining birthrates; it's right that the economy is a factor, but also*gestures wildly* have you seen the state of the world? Who wants to raise kids into this? Ironically the downside are all economical - given 'growth is the only way out of this' (spurious logic at best). Environmentally it's good that there are less kids born, right? Most people can only have choices about what they buy and what they do for their own family, saying they need to have more kids for the economy is such a fractured and gross argument that puts money above everything - after this period of Tory rule, surely people see that's not the way it SHOULD be?

[@deancostello14]

I'd probably have more than 1 kid if I had more money, so if there was a better economy I'd be more comfortable having more than 1 child, and I don't think that's just me who has that sort of opinion.

[@michaelwardle4619]

Love

[@StevenHolmes-s3e]

Why don’t they

[@kittybluett8887]

People can’t afford to have kids. On the plus side it is going to help with climate change.

[@DennisMoore664]

More robots - less kids! As someone closing in on retirement I'd much prefer a mechanical companion as I wind down.

[@zeitGGeist]

Jesus humans are flat out broken

[@JustStopPlayingGames]

I want Coco to stay on the right. I prefer to be blessed by both her funny and her wit, in addition to being able to see more of her. She's CRUSHING that outfit. 😁😉😏 53:08

[@nbell63]

JH: "... and through the individual stories, [the Public] they understand systems." Oh, good god, yes. And having said that, I have no faith that the legacy media would attempt this now - if only because, somewhere in the mess, the owners of said media have their fingers (or their dear friends have *their* fingers) in those dirty rotten pies. I appreciate that JH was talking about the potential lessons that podcasters can learn from &/or exploit, but, within my lifetime, the legacy media had excelled at this. I'm in Australia. In the early 80s, I studied environmental biology. The way I was taught about biological systems, to recognise connections therein, was a skill that I could later use - as a member of the informed/interested laity - to follow the corruption within the media. If your starting point is the environment, biased, enabling, obfuscating, co-opted journalism (so-called) is very easy to spot. Indeed, they often don't even make an effort to hide so intrinsic is this pap from the Press. Once upon a time, the Media had prizes and industry recognitions for following socially disfunctional systems: politics, organised blue-collar crime, organised white-collar crime, public service cover-ups that follow after dreadful laziness (or deliberate corruption). That media doesn't exist anymore. It probably hasn't since the late 90s. Certainly, Rupert Murdoch sits atop this particular ethical ponzi scheme, but his example was happily followed - in the US, the UK and in Australia. Podcasters, the modern-day pamphleteers, now have to rebuild the Public's appreciation of, their understanding of, and their trust in journalists. It will take generations.

[@matthewkeating5963]

Cyclone Coco.

[@bethmiller9774]

Uh - Election Year, maybe? 🤔

[@shadebug]

Do the non brits here know what the mash report was? I feel like there may be some context missing for what Nish is

[@LauraTabili]

Why can I not get your podcast onKZbin any more? Don't make me join Twiitter!

[@podsavetheworld]

But....this IS the podcast and you're on KZbin. It'll still be here every week.

[@David-j9h9g]

not hard to understand why now..election year!!

[@adrianaspalinky1986]

Are you on mixcloud?

[@benford1726]

Pod Shag the UK Is that like the edgy successor to Sex Pod?

[@oxoClareNoxo]

Is Nish OK?

[@steveknott5873]

Why would you do that to Lionel Richie he never did anything to anyone and you sully his name this way

[@DennisMoore664]

Absolutely! I always liked "Hello" - not my favorite song from his solo career but still perfectly fine.

[@mystic_mimi21]

In one part do I value to BBC however as time has gone on, they are not staying neutral at all, they are falling more right wing, their reporting is transphobic, their coverage of Palestine is despicable, and more and more they are just debating not reporting, I would like a calm discussion of politics that has not time constraint, allowing multiple sides to have equal time to talk not just a shouting match.

[@travelwell6049]

39:23 I don’t think it’s fair to moan about overpopulation on the one hand and when nature balances itself out; complain about a declining birthrate.