The HORRIFIC Torture Of The Women Who Slept With German Soldiers

[@uhlijohn]

It is instructive to note that many of the French upper classes who collaborated with the Germans were never held to account....they were untouchable. That was reserved for the lower classes. I have seen newsreel footage of French civilians striking allied prisoners as they were being marched along streets of Paris or some other city...many French collaborated with the Germans. Many feared communists more than the Germans and welcomed the Germans to suppress the communists. Many thousands of European men entered military service for the Third Reich to fight communism. That is a fact that is rarely mentioned today.

[@anotherarmchairhistorian2831]

A lot of French men joined the SS. It wasn't just a select few it was tens of thousands that joined the regular army along with the SS. It's skipped over a lot and rarely ever addressed.

[@tomfrazier1103]

During parts of the 1930s France was in a pre Civil War situation. In Spain it actually broke out and was a theater of interwar hates.

[@BST-lm4po]

The Germans had been fighting the Communists in Europe since 1936, when they assisted the Nationalists in the Spanish Civil War. (Even earlier if you count the defeat of Communist Uprisings in Germany). Hitler was concerned about the Soviet Communists invading Europe. Lenin had repeatedly remarked that "The Revolution shall be carried to Western Europe on the bayonets of Soviet soldiers!" and "The shortest route to Berlin and Paris lay through Warsaw!" I think Stalin felt the same way. The Soviets were quick to invade Poland and Finland in 1939. (And occupied half of Europe after the war). I think Europe was a powder keg in 1939,.. and Hitler lit the match!

[@zoebear1992]

Evil is everywhere money and power.

[@johanvandermeulen9696]

@ALAIN TERRIEUR Quelle langue! 'Nazi officer'. Ce n' étaient pas des officiers nazis, c' étaient des officiers allemands.

[@colleendean2917]

The saddest part was the terrible treatment of the innocent children born under these circumstances.

[@laurencetilley9194]

Anni-Frid Lyngstad of ABBA fame was one of those innocent children born during the German occupation of Norway. Her story is very sad.

[@AmberPanda]

@@laurencetilley9194 I may be wrong but, wasn't it her grandmother who took her to Sweden to get her away from Norway?

[@mydnytmover]

They should not have spread their legs.

[@larrynorman1919]

@@laurencetilley9194 Alfred Haase was her father I think he died in 2006, he was very involved with his daughter

[@ultron-5600]

@@mydnytmover I don’t blame them for wanting to sleep with the last true Europeans and heroes of European civilization.

[@Petal4822]

Everyone in France was part of the resistance in 1945 but not in 1940.

[@roberteaston6413]

Something Canadians do not want to admit is that during WW2 most French Canadians supported Vichy France.

[@davidcritchley3509]

The hardest time to be in the resistance was 1940-1942 when the Germans seeked unbeatable.

[@roberteaston6413]

@@davidcritchley3509 In 1942 the Germans seemed unbeatable but both Herman Goering and Jozef Goebels knew by then that Germany could not win the war. They knew that given the resources of the USA and the USSR that Germany could not could not defeat the Allies. They were hoping for a break between the Western Allies and the USSR. If they could negotiate a separate peace with the Western Allies then they could stave off the USSR. They did not realise that FDR was serious about unconditional surrender.

[@FigthAGAINSTSCOIALISM]

lol It's fine to resistance when you got British, Canada and American troops backing you.

[@FigthAGAINSTSCOIALISM]

However funny. France had a bit of Crisis during ww2. As the communists and socialists groups wanted to take over. Which would have led to more death. There was fighting long after ww2 on just whom would come out on top.

[@kevinhealey6540]

I knew an Italian guy at work. He said when he was 5 years old, when the Americans were taking over Italy in 44, his family had to hide out a female cousin of his who was from another town a few miles away. She had a German soldier boyfriend and when the German army took off from the area, the town's people wanted to get their hands on her and even up the score. The woman was brought to relatives in Switzerland where she eventually immigrated to the the US.

[@chrisstucker1813]

Look how brave they get once the real men leave.

[@emilprizz327]

Vergonzoso, vengarse en sus propias mujeres

[@marpintado]

Tank you for sharing.

[@JimmyDurden]

@@chrisstucker1813Nazis were cowards and there were zero “real men” among them

[@RichieRich870]

@@chrisstucker1813 you're saying Nazis are "real men"?

[@romo9122]

I'm from the Netherlands and this happend here too after the war. Some people still bare the "shame" of being a grandchild of/related to these poor women. It's crazy

[@This-Is-My-Little-Corner]

Well, that just makes it all way worse! Why in Gods name should there be ANY shame?!? They did nothing

[@peterdebrie]

Never seen or heard of that and I lived there for 30 years.

[@romo9122]

@@peterdebrie depends where you live(d) maybe. My hometown and surrounding area's it was a thing the old People whispered about or used in a rage argument. I moved away and live in a city now. Dont notice it here but i dont hang out with many 80/90 yr olds r/n

[@paulaward5346]

Hello Netherlands! My brother Paul and I are part Dutch on our mom's side of the family! Hello from Tyler Texas U.S.A.

[@thor7856]

@@This-Is-My-Little-Corner They helped the Nazi's that killed their own people and you know sent 9 million people to death camps.

[@alexandramenachin6230]

Of course Coco Chanel beat it out of town w/her GERMAN COMMANDANT LOVER before the dubious outraged French could get her hair, or publicly rebuke Maurice Chevalier for entertaining the German high command in Paris So they pick on the poor French girls trying to feed their family There was more than enough disdain to go around Paris & the surrounding towns And as Arlette (French actress of the time) said *My heart belongs to France but my ass belongs to me*

[@cjclark2002]

And the Germans

[@alexandramenachin6230]

@@cjclark2002 that's was her point a she stood & spoke on the street in defense of these, mostly, young girls

[@gordonski9310]

Even Edit Piaf was suspected.

[@kevindavis5966]

"Pick on" the French girls trying to feed their families? Do you know what they did to all the French "boys" trying to feed their families? They summarily executed them all. Sounds like the girls got off light to me.

[@alexandramenachin6230]

@@gordonski9310 no she never was b/c she worked with high level resistance leaders by going to the German Stalags to entertain the French troops & having her picture taken w/specific French soldiers so that subsequent photo could be used for a fake ID card once they helped that soldier escape

[@gordonski9310]

It applied mainly to lower class French women. The upper class ladies who also collaborated, like CHANNEL the dress designer & Arletty the film star got away with it. As referred to this was not particularly a French "thing". The Germans did the same

[@UKSCIENCEORG]

Coco Chanel.

[@StalinTheMan0fSteel]

As I understand it, the allies were going to prosecute her until Churchill intervened personally and saved Chanel, apparently his wife and others in English society liked her.

[@rg20322]

@@StalinTheMan0fSteel Such a shame - she should have been taken out.

[@paulthrutner9114]

Louis Vuitton also collaborated with the Germans!

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

I see someone else watched the most recent Bill Burr stand up on Netflix

[@karoonboomie2813]

There is human cruelty everywhere, it will NEVER go away! It’s all around us, it’s up to us humans how we handle it.

[@JasonCoffman-xu5ks]

Seems like chopping off the hair of someone who gave aid and comfort to the invaders was a rather mild way to "handle" it. You appear to be making victims of the perpetrators. You need to examine some of the horrific things these invaders did to the civilians of the countries they invaded. .If you want nightmares, find some videos of those

[@nota-nc8bq]

​@@JasonCoffman-xu5ksso how is it the kids fault

[@dewardroy6531]

Interesting how society applies the term BASTARD to a child who had no say as to whom their parents would be, and son- of- a- bitch to a child whose mother was unable to control them when their actions were NOT those of the mother.

[@okene]

​@@JasonCoffman-xu5kslmao exactly. Male collaborators were lynched, mobbed and executed. At least most of these women got to live

[@fredjennings5312]

“Horizontal collaboration”. That’s a new one.

[@ksteak27]

Gonna try that line on the wife. Wish me luck.

[@tomfrazier1103]

Not really.

[@valerietaylor9615]

A new term, but not a new concept.

[@DysfunctionNoMore]

So ridiculous. What about real collaboration? What about people just trying not to get killed...

[@jonathanheyse5314]

@@ksteak27😂

[@lauracarpenter5283]

My mother was born in Paris and saw an experienced what had happened to these women. She said that many times the women's heads would not only be shaved but they would be forced to March through the street bare chested as a sign of shame for what they had done. My mother saw many horrific things as a young child. Probably the worst was the Germans killing an American soldier who had parachuted into the area. They tied ropes to each hand and each leg and pulled him apart with four Jeeps traveling in different directions. My mother had many nightmares as I was growing up because of her war experiences.

[@PittManGaming]

May God bless your dear mother and give her peace.

[@johntowle]

That would be the SS not Wehrmacht

[@5440bubb]

where'd they get the jeeps?

[@johnmorelli3775]

@@5440bubb They must have borrowed them from the US army, LOL!

[@lauracarpenter5283]

@@5440bubb don't know...maybe they weren't jeeps? Just cars or trucks? My mom was very young when this happened but it left a lasting impression. Don't quibble!

[@charles1964]

My old man told me about this, and that U.S. Soldiers were not allowed to interfere. His brother was a Sgt. in the 26th YD who spoke French, Italian, and some German. They were at this one border town where things (similar to the video above) were getting out of hand and this teenaged girl was begging for them to stop. So my uncle spoke up to his CO and the Marquis ringleader overheard him and mocked my uncle, because he thought he wouldn't understand French. So my uncle answered him, in French "that he didn't come to France to make War on little girls, and if they had been that brave in 1940, he wouldn't of had to" Marquis guy swung on my uncle, so he broke Frenchy's jaw with his brass knuckles. A scuffle ensued, and my uncle got reprimanded by his CO, who later told him he didn't like it either, but they would've just waited for the Americans to leave....My uncle made it through the Bulge, into Czech where the Yankee Division Liberated Gusen Camp. My dad wasn't one for tall tales, but I wonder if there would be some way to verify the story?

[@karenwilson712]

Your uncle sounds like a bad ass, they don’t make them like that anymore

[@charles1964]

​@@karenwilson712 My older brother used to say that they were all tough as nails, as they all survived the War - places like Tarawa, Saipan, and The ETO - but they were all good people. That particular uncle also stepped on a frozen landmine in Belgium and fought all the way to Gusen concentration camp, so I can only imagine what he survived, no wonder he became a Priest post War. I remember him as a fun uncle that used to pull Half Dollars out of my "dirty ears" and tell me they belonged in my pocket, and died way too young...

[@michaelbrett3749]

begging them to stop ....who are you referring to? If you going to tell a story make it clear so we can all understand

[@WillyEckaslike]

just proves that women dont love men they only care what you can do for them

[@thor7856]

So he fights for the right's of the Nazi's and beats down the French man who fought the Nazi's. Your old man must have been a Nazi sympathizer.

[@tphester]

I refuse to believe the majority of these women did this voluntarily. People with no food, no shelter, or no safety can't be judged for surviving.

[@jeanproffitte201]

This kind of reprisals against women for sex or love affair with Nazi soldiers took part all over Europe, and probably worst elsewhere than in France, like in eastern Europe. Dozens of French villages or towns have been destroyed by the occupying forces, such as the village of Oradour-sur-Glane in southwestern France. 642 inhabitants were killed, women and children were burned alive in the church. This village has never been rebuilt and today it is a memorial that has been visited by thousands of people from all over the world. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXXdfJh7aZmIqLc

[@animusadvertere3371]

And yet many others fought rather than collaborating. So yeah, they can be judged.

[@bonjourtoi3894]

SVP ! Haut et court.

[@DennisHurst-f2q]

To be fair you maybe right but it’s what rage can do , even decent people can do terrible things in an attempt at revenge, but exceptional point you made ❤

[@Klonen75]

It was voluntarily. The motivation wasn't desparation or stavation. You should try to learn something about the living standart in France during the second world war. For most it was love and romance. Big strong german soldiers marching through the streets where attractive and desirable. Very few women did this. Most women stayed clear of the occupiers.

[@harrywebsters2318]

The majority of French cheering crowds were actively collaborative with the Germans up until the point that the tide turned in the allies favour, with a large portion of the country supportive of the Vichy government. This is well documented.

[@MikeKollin]

So basically they switched sides then when the Germans were losing, they Switched back!! SAd...

[@cardboardcapeii4286]

Cus Germany liberated them from jews

[@brettbuck7362]

Exactly, the people at the front of the line to get the collaborators did it so no one did it to them, that is what cowardice is all about. I also note that while the Maqui had a lot of trouble recruiting for most of the war, their numbers swelled to near 100% by the middle of '45.

[@Napolean46]

​@@cardboardcapeii4286jew hater vomiting his usual hate on KZbin lol

[@michelterral5907]

it's absolut true !!!many french colaborate with nazis ,starting with the government of Vichy ..French..POLICE FIRST !!! @@brettbuck7362

[@KimFsharpHarp]

Some of them may have been saving their families from brutality and starvation. We don’t know what many would do in such a situation. Great vid as always!

[@pjbth]

I dunno looks like most didn't turn to collaboration and managed fine. Those that did took the easy way out and we're justly punished, men who collaberated were executed so these women got off light.

[@andyboog2010]

Most wouldn't whore themselves out to the people who where murdering their countrymen.

[@epaminon6196]

@@pjbth Serving their German betters shouldn't have been a shameful course of action for those cooperative Frenchmen.

[@azthundercloud]

Alot of women sold a shot of back for a meal to feed their family.

[@epaminon6196]

@@azthundercloud A 'hot meal' for a hot meal. Seems fair.

[@Steveross2851]

A lot of the "outrage" towards these women was projection. The fact is that most of the French people collaborated with the Nazis during 1940 - 44 to at least some degree. In 1940 when General de Gaulle rejected the Vichy collaborator regime he had hardly any supporters in France and there was almost no resistance to the German occupation at first. Only later as the tide turned, the occupation became more brutal, and more French people realized the Germans would lose the war did French resistance to the Nazi occupiers gradually increase. After liberation nearly everyone in France claimed to have "resisted" the Nazis but in most cases that wasn't at all the case. This was covered very well in a two part 1970s documentary called The Sorrow and The Pity (Mostly in French with Some English).

[@gordonski9310]

@HARRY KOSSEC sadly you are very wrong. In fact the whole administration collaborated. From the Police, Gendarmes, Notaires, bailiffs, auction houses, civil service, doctors, farmers, train drivers, estate agents, accountants etc. course there was the Milice which prayed in both French born, French Jews & others. There was shortage of food in the town & cities but most people lived in the countryside then. They had ample food.

[@Steveross2851]

@@gordonski9310you are quite right.

[@huwjones8862]

@HARRY KOSSEC The De Gaulle army that wasn't let in on the Normandy invasion plans because they could not be trusted? those guys? Or the FFI that magically appeared after the Germans left, then disappeared if there was a chance on the Germans coming back. My Father went through France from Normandy onwards and he said no one trusted the FFI, they were liable to shoot at allied soldiers as much as German ones. Happened to my dad several times.

[@knockeledup]

Unfortunately, women were used as scape goats by the French during WWII. I wrote a thesis paper on this for one of my upper level French courses in college.

[@gordonski9310]

You got it in ONE ! Thank you. Bear in mind for the majority of the French the occupation did not affect them much as long as they towed the line. There was certainly food shortages due to the Germans removing supplies to Germany. I recommend on You Tune the complete film about the Milice - Lacombe Lucien

[@nycrudeboy4753]

Here is a factoid: I read a book called "Hellstorm:The Death of Nazi Germany 1944-1947". It was stated that approximately 2 million German women were raped by Russian soldiers once they invaded Germany and the war was won. Young girls to old women were raped repeatedly everyday to the point that some women committed suicide. It's a part of war that no one seems to talk about.

[@bonjourtoi3894]

Arrêtes, j'ai les larmes aux yeux.

[@bonjourtoi3894]

@@evaharvey1094 Wow ! Toute une réaction. Pauvres petites. Une fois en poste. Elles ont été libre de leur agissement.

[@evaharvey1094]

@@bonjourtoi3894 Why comment on @nycrudeboy4753's comment as well as mine when you fail to understand that we are talking about r*pe and its atrocities. We're not talking about wars, we're not talking about allies or enemies, and who was on which side, we're talking about r*pe, the act itself, about r*ping, for whatever reasons, and the consequences of that horrible act. And I repeat, because apparently I have to, no one deserves to be r*ped. And to not be able to understand this, your IQ must not be very high. So please refrain from commenting, you would be doing a service to all the r*pe victims in the world. Pourquoi commenter le commentaire de @nycrudeboy4753 ainsi que le mien quand vous ne parvenez pas à comprendre que nous parlons de vi*l et de ses atrocités. Nous ne parlons pas de guerres, nous ne parlons pas d’alliés ou d’ennemis, et qui était de quel côté, nous parlons de vi*l, de l'acte en lui-même, du fait de vi*ler, quelles que soient les raisons, et des conséquences de cet horrible acte. Et je le répète, parce qu'apparemment il le faut, personne ne mérite d'être vi*lé. Et pour ne pas arriver à comprendre cela, votre QI ne doit pas être très élevé. Alors abstenez-vous de commenter, vous rendriez service à toutes les victimes de vi*l qui existent dans le monde.

[@Tataridis65]

In relation to what the Germans did both in Russia and in other countries to women and children this was nothing

[@BigBossSherlock]

@@Tataridis65 No, the allied committed a genocide, planned in Bletchley, on germans after war. Look up William Toel, an maerican citizien who revealed that the last years.

[@theowlfromduolingo7982]

Treating the children that were the result of those relationships poorly is just so unfair

[@Fatroose]

I totally agree with you. The children who were born out of these relationships were innocent. If the women could be proved to have cavorted with the Germans, purely for self promotion. And not for a valid reason of feeding or protecting there families. Then they should have been jailed or even expelled (if possible). These public beatings and torture by gangs of mainly men and some women. Were acts of cowardice in my opinion. I can imagine in some parts of France the scenes were similar to the old witch hunting days. If one person took a fancy to a new hat her neighbour was wearing. The cries of "Collaborateur" would be shouted through the village. But to be honest, the amount of French who did collaborate with the Nazis. It probably sounded like an echo. Lol

[@theowlfromduolingo7982]

@@reginamoro4269 the children are literally a part of this video? Calm down, what is wrong with you? Just my opinion and that’s it...

[@shesaknitter]

@@Fatroose I think it is imprtant to differentiate self promotion from just struggling to survive.

[@lesterpittenger5992]

Unfair? This was a horrific war.

[@theowlfromduolingo7982]

@@lesterpittenger5992 Yes? But it wasn’t the children’s fault obviously

[@rbjm]

WW2 was such an insane and cruel time in history. If we get horrified by what we now know, just imagine the things that we don't get to know about... it was a wild time where cruelty, corruption and perversity ran amok and millions of people showed a lack of regard for human dignity and life.

[@morganreigns1984]

It's gonna be that way again too :(

[@elgasalme9331]

Same things happen In Ukraine now. Nothing is changed. Russian men are ready to go and kill because they master wants.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

China and Soviet Union kept the party going long after. Their brutality to their fellow man during peacetime is what's disturbing.

[@simontrigg9059]

@@morganreigns1984 Your're right.Unfortunately war is a consequence of overpopulation and different belief systems,ideologies ect which has been going on for thousands of bloody years.Now it's on a much larger scale.How about making a video on how brutal and systematicly savage the wonderful Romans where?

[@morganreigns1984]

@@simontrigg9059 overpopulation is a myth perpetrated by those in power to implement the UN's AGENDA21 aka AGENDA2030 by the NWO to seize/abolish private property . if anything we just have high population density via large cities /urban areas but as far as the world entire goes NO most of the world is untouched.

[@Lxx-tc4xc]

My mother witnessed in her French town the humiliation of women with shaved heads. I never heard her use the term "horizontal collaberation." Often the leader of a group of men jeering and hitting at a woman accused of sleeping with German soldiers, was a jilted French suitor of the accused collaborator.

[@coreyham3753]

History ... plenty of stories of mankind's awful behavior.

[@giorgosfylaktou2610]

@@reginamoro4269 VERY SAD 😔 ENDING. AT LEAST THEY SHOULD LISTEN TO THEIR STORIES BEFORE THEY JUDGE THEM. MANY WOMEN GAVE IMPORTANT INFORMATION ON FRENCH RESISTANCE AND THE ALLIES, AND INSTEAD OF THANKING THEM 😀 AND FEEL GRATITUDE FOR THEIR INFORMATION ABOUT GERMAN ACTIVITIES, SOME WOMEN WERE NOT LISTENED WERE SHAVED, HUMILIATED OR EVEN EXECUTED.

[@fizzyplazmuh9024]

Yes, let's not let our righteous anger run roughshod over the horrible truths people face in war. Then and right now.

[@cuanmccarogher180]

Correct…human nature and all that…

[@TheSteve2305]

good they deserved it

[@E-s.thoughts]

It should also not be forgotten that among these women there were also some who slept with German soldiers - preferably officers - but were actually spies for the resistance. Resistance members soon realized that this was a perfect way to obtain valuable information. These German soldiers sometimes let things slip of their mouth or left files lying around in a drunken stupor or when they slept with their allegedly collaborating mistress (who was awake and seized the opportunity to look at papers). But it was dangerous what these girls did! Both if they were caught by the Germans or, at the liberation, were regarded as collaborators. Well, I think most of these "James Bond" ladies were safe among resistance fighters when liberation came into view and their job during the war was also clearly announced after the war so that everyone knew who they really were. But still I wonder if that was the case for all these female spies?!

[@lodewijkvandoornik3844]

Most of these women actually slept with the Germans soldiers. But we like to talk about it as if it was just a liny percentage of the accused...

[@justinsidervag8008]

Anything to justify it . So now they're " brave " and " misunderstood " ? 😂😂😂😂

[@E-s.thoughts]

@@lodewijkvandoornik3844 Most women who slept with German soldiers were opportunists who tried to get as much out of it as possible for themselves. Only here and there were some women who actually worked for the resistance. Those girls did extremely dangerous work. That's all I wanted to say!

[@E-s.thoughts]

@@justinsidervag8008 Where did I write that? I am only talking about the few women who worked as spies and tried to obtain information that way. Yet during the liberation some of these women were seen as collaborators by the people who suddenly presented themselves as so called "resistance fighters". I'm not trying to justify anything... so don't be such a smartass!

[@madoleine769]

very few were spies or they would'n't have been annoyed

[@Redplanetlover]

I have read about some women who were accused of this but were completely innocent but the crowds were ready to believe anything. A lot of old scores were settled by lying accusers.

[@Petal4822]

Many of the French head-shavers, were not members of the resistance. Quite a few had been collaborators themselves, and sought to divert attention from their own lack of resistance. Many victims were young mothers, who were had hungry children with no means of support it was not political.

[@Enrij]

Just like today. People belive only what they want to belive. They take sides without knowing what's truly up.

[@reneelemke2946]

It likely happened

[@princejohn6560]

Very easy to believe. I can't imagine that many of the women were given a trial where they could defend themselves. All they would have needed were one or two people to point the finger

[@coimbralaw]

Cry about it

[@t.j.payeur5331]

My father was a glider pilot. During the invasion of Southern France they took fire from a farmhouse and killed the occupants with Tommy guns. Upon inspection, 2 were German soldiers and the other 2, in German helmets and jackets, were their girlfriends. The Dad said that all the Americans were shocked and Very upset by the whole incident.

[@Ballterra]

Rarest of the rare a Glider Pilot huge kudos to your Dad. People don’t realise the responsibility these pilots had just for starters Flak, finding the right place to land and is it safe no traps or obstacles and of course being responsible for getting the troops down on the ground safely. My Dad worked with an ex Glider pilot after the war when he was a young lad in Scotland the pilot gave my Dad his shoulder flashes and cap badge as he was not married and had no immediate family to give them too. They are still among my Dads most prized possessions.

[@ksteak27]

4 good kills. Kudos to your dad.

[@torstenkiessling2933]

The guys here, who celebrate other peoples dead here in the forum are just motherfucker. In this case we as Germans should celebrate the Malmedy Massacre where 80 US Soldiers got executed After they allready surrendered.

[@terryberkenstock3265]

My assistant pasture who rarely talked about the war. Pulled cannons with a truck . When they approached North Africa it was the French forces that was fighting for Hitler, he said they were p'$$t we are trying to liberate France and they are killing us. After north Africa he was sent to Italy. French Navy also sided with the axis power. A world in confusion . But as in most wars the French troops and sailors thr enlisted or drafted new varry little about the politics. And if you didn't follow orders it was the firing squad.

[@larrynorman1919]

@@terryberkenstock3265 French Third Republic was the Navy unit involved, I hate to say this but the French were, well you know, "french" they blew which ever way the wind blew to stay alive

[@TheFab9999]

My grand mother was one of these womens. Finally have a girl from a german soldier ( My mother). Not a glory years but history for my family.

[@giorgosfylaktou2610]

THE BABIES 👶 WHO WERE BORN UNDER THESE CIRCUMSTANCES DURING AND AFTER WW2 ENDED, ARE NOT TO BE BLAMED OR SCARRED FOR THE REST OF THEIR LIVES. THEY WERE AND ARE STILL INNOCENT.

[@johntowle]

@@giorgosfylaktou2610 yes we hear you why do you type in CAPS?

[@deathmetalweedman3572]

@@johntowle MAKES IT EASIER FOR DUMB FUCKERS LIKE YOU TO READ

[@dougchance8891]

@@johntowle Hi John Same happens to me sometimes. I look at the keyboard when typing-with one finger-when finished-see CAP letters on the screen-. Oops Cannot be bothered to retype.

[@giorgosfylaktou2610]

@@johntowle BECAUSE I ALWAYS WRITE AND TYPE IN CAPS.

[@SteffiReitsch]

Remember the brunette girl in the music group "ABBA"? Her name is Anni- Frid Lyngstad. She was born in 1945 in Norway. Her father was a German soldier who bred with a Norwegian girl during the WWII occupation. Another one was the blonde girl who played as Judy Robinson in the 1960s TV show "Lost in Space." Her name is Marta Kristen, also born in 1945. Same thing: German soldier and Norwegian girl mingling during occupation. Yeah, there were babies born to occupying soldiers and local women, especially in Germany.

[@JasonCoffman-xu5ks]

In Germany the occupying soldiers would have been the liberators of Europe, who didn't even want to be there. In Norway the occupying soldiers would have been the invaders, who had zero excuse to even be there. NOT similar situations at all.

[@SteffiReitsch]

@@JasonCoffman-xu5ks NO kid, the similarity is that some women will sleep with enemy occupiers. The same men who kill their brothers, fathers and husbands. Also, in Germany the occupying soldiers were their conquerors , NOT liberators.

[@SteffiReitsch]

@@JasonCoffman-xu5ks AHAHAHAHAHA NO, in Germany they weren't liberators they were conquerors and occupiers. You don't know what you're talking about, kid.

[@JasonCoffman-xu5ks]

@@SteffiReitsch Get a life, we people of the US didnt even want to be there, but gave some 60 thousands of young lives to put down someone elses problem. (To put down garbage like you, btw).j Then on top of it, we helped rebuild both Germany and Japan after both had murdered many millions of civilians, and in the case of Germany, about 11 million of their own citizens, and citizens of the countries they occupied. And no, we are not talking about combatants here either. That kind of people are not "conquerors". You wont find a case in history where the US ever had any designs to conquer and rule another country I see that you are about 14 years old, (or mentally that old), but you need to seriously learn some history. Time to grow up and stop trying to defend the evil things grandpa did 8 to 10 decades ago. It isnt doing you one bit of good

[@JasonCoffman-xu5ks]

@@SteffiReitsch Butthurt some??? Time to stop making excuses for the awful things pappy and granpappy were involved in back then. That mess was 80 years ago. So sorry for you that we ended it, but we did. Move on!! Get your fat ass out of your easy chair, toss that neonazi magazine aside, burn your silly Mein Kampf, get outdoors, get the sun on your sallow face, and smile at the folks around you for a change. I am certain, just like Martin Luther, you tell yourself you are a Christian. He wasnt, and neither are you. Belatedly, try to become one Btw, I am Aryan German whose grand people left Germany in the mid/ late 1800s. By the time WW1 came along, anyone with any sense had left Germany. We Germans have had a long history of being a peculiarly troubled people. When I am 6 yrs old, I am troubling my father as to what happened to our people in Germany in the 20s to 40s. He finally said: "Thru all of history they were a people looking for a leader" . Well, they finally found one. And then we, the US, came along and crucified him. I do love it! Great comedy!!

[@ginalane7540]

Who gets to judge here? Never expect to know what you would do in horrific conditions.

[@wernerpay2267]

Gina, the right words! 🙏

[@setumomahakoe1494]

Mow , here come someone with lot of facts...don't know how to behave in terrible, survival mode kick in, and divinity out the window BUT race come in as well.

[@sharonc9259]

@bobjim245 I always assumed the women had no choice about fraternizing with the Germans, meaning the Invading aggressive soldiers probably wouldn’t accept rejection.

[@sharonc9259]

@bobjim245 I agree with you. I had read about women who really didn’t get to choose. Although the women were treated well as girlfriends, they were not in a position to refuse. Similar to the comfort women but used more exclusively by one man in military service and treated more decently. This small video clip opened my eyes to a different situation and gave me a different view. Thanks for taking the time to respond.

[@justonemori]

son, run and grab the razor

[@williamuhren5639]

What gets me is you'll most probably find a good percentage of the idiots carrying out these vile disgusting acts on these women, guilty of collaboration of some kind them selves.

[@neilnelmar8007]

Those women were triators

[@klackon1]

With so many courageous men and women shaving the heads of these female collaborators, I'm genuinely surprised the German Army was able to conquer France so quickly and decisively. Perhaps it takes a different type of courage to stand up to an armed enemy, than it does to stand up to unarmed women.

[@jeanproffitte201]

What an awful level of ignorance. Tell your crap to the 100,000 French soldiers who had been killed in the 6 weeks of battle of France in May-June 1940, with 156,000 Nazi casualties. Dead, wounded, missing. It was the French who covered the Dunkirk evacuation, by slowing down the Nazi assault on the city for 10 days. kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y4apepabp72Mg8k kzbin.info/www/bejne/rWemZoNjdr56mrs en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_France

[@jeanproffitte201]

Tell your crap to the 30000 French civilians hostages and Maquis fighters who had been executed on the spot during 4 years, without any trial, just after their capture. It was not uncommon to shoot 30 or 40 civilians hostages taken at random, for only 1 Nazi officer or soldier killed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqTZcmOLoMmFq9k

[@jeanproffitte201]

Except these humiliations scenes, very few women were killed by the mob, or executed by authorities. On another hand, about 11000 French male collaborators were executed, most in 1944/45. They were not shaved, but shot.

[@jeanproffitte201]

In case you didn't know, after 1941 De Gaulle reconstituted a new French army, from French North African colonies, who fought the Nazis on all theaters until 1945. From North Africa to Germany. Free French forces numbered 1.3 million active in Europe in 1945. 4th Allied Army in numbers. Try to educate.

[@jeanproffitte201]

French World War II casualties, 600,000, military and civilians. More than all the US losses, on all fronts, not even 420,000, or more than the UK losses, 450,900. Nearly 70,000 French civilians killed by "gentle" Allied air raids, who razed to the ground dozens of cities, often in useless raids. France, after Germany, was the second most bombed country of Western Europe, with 518,000 tons of bombs dropped in 5 years. I really appreciate ignorant morons, mostly brainwashed Anglo US twats, with their dirty mouths full of vomit, who always remember the 1940 failure, who was an accident, forgetting centuries of victories and domination. Through more than 1500 years, France is the country who won the highest number of wars and battles, often alone against entire coalitions, and when north America was still a desert populated by Indian nations. All true historians know it. The greatest battle ever was a French victory for instance: the carnage of VERDUN, 1916. The only wars that US public have ever experienced near them are watching Hollywood Spielberg stuff in movie theaters, or crowds shootings, their national sport. Pathetic.

[@wfcoaker1398]

"We British have not known invasion and occupation in 900 years and so are perhaps not the best judges." Indeed. That also applies to most, if not all, of the people posting here.

[@ginmar8134]

"Sleep with" is not a synonym for "harassed", "intimidated", & "starving." If you can't say "no" without fear then a "yes" is meaningless.

[@tylerjohnson6696]

Unless they were full on raped, I have no sympathy.

[@steveinjava]

And all the soldiers who raped women in WW2?....Double standards which I fear still exist. Thank you for an important social documentary.

[@sassycat6487]

When the Russians liberated the concentration camps they raped the women. Makes me so sick that the women still weren't free.

[@OffendingTheOffendable]

You'd know

[@johanderuiter9842]

Funny, the German Wehrmacht were actually a lot tougher about rape and theft than the US Army was. If you were a German soldier or officer caught for rape or theft in the West you'd be taken care of very efficiently and without much empathy. That said on the whole most Germans behaved themselves because of rigorous discipline and upbringing. The allied might be the liberators, but standards were a notch lower on every level.

[@bigp3006]

I've often wondered how many of these women were accused wrongfully during this impotent witch hunt.

[@bigp3006]

Those facts are known, but change nothing.

[@bigp3006]

@ALAIN TERRIEUR do you think that makes it right?

[@Sidiqi]

Reminds me of the French Revolution, similar - putting the boot (accusation) in!

[@Sidiqi]

@ALAIN TERRIEUR vous avez raison.

[@themanformerlycalled]

The repression after the war was also used the settle differences between neighbours. Often with deadline consequences.

[@contingency9]

Your narrative has become better and better. I have shared your site as much as possible. Keep up the good work. This was a harrowing subject but people must know and remember, these terrible crimes must never be forgotten on both sides no one was totally innocent. This was War at it's worst.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

War. War never REEEEEEE

[@genehollon1472]

Of A L L the deaths in WORLD WAR ll , WHO STARTED IT, WHO SNEAKLY AMERICA at PEARL HABOR ?Who IMMEDIATELY allied with JAPAN ,against AMERICA? Many other questions may be posed, THESE few however , ABSOLUTELY define the perpetrators of that HORRENDOUS war.

[@johnindo6771]

Some were much more innocent than others. The US and their Allie’s DID NOT START the war!!!

[@louisabridge]

Punishing collaborators is not a crime. Collaboration is the crime and these criminals got off lightly.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

@@louisabridge Weak children of today like to judge history according to their modern standards. They lack the capacity for historic context nor have they seen the horrors of war where you leave all morality aside and things become the law of the jungle.

[@Mr_Oggie]

It is easy to be a bully when you are part of a big mob...

[@benewgillian6823]

And the biggest mob was the Nazis, in occupied France.. Tulle massacre Oradour-sur-Glane massacre......

[@cr1m203]

And those women were part of the biggest mob and bullies of them all the NAZIs until they lost. Doesn’t feel good when it’s done back to you now does it?

[@peterdebrie]

Many of these resistance “fighters” became members of the resistance after the Germans left.

[@huwjones8862]

Very true that. My father who was in France from D Day on said none of the allied forces trusted the FFI as they changed sides at the hint of an allied withdrawal. He was shot at by the French numerous times. They were very brave in victory.

[@Petal4822]

It’s a shame the French were not keen to actually fight the Germans.

[@wrmlm37]

Love your channel. Shocked at an older video of your visiting UK "tourist spots" and how awful the price and treatment of the average UK citizen is...TYSM, Sir.

[@renskeconnell8038]

What seems to be overlooked is 5 years (and sometimes longer) is the horrific torture and cruelty (physical and mental) by the occupiers. One quick example: Thousands of Jewish people who were made to clean streets in Germany and Austria on their knees and with bare hands. Millions upon millions of innocent people, Jewish, Slavic, Resistance fighters, Homosexuals, Romas, totally innocent people ETC., were starved, tortured,starved, killed or annihilated by the Germans and their Allies. 20,000 (+) women got their hair shaved and were despised. A year later, most assimilated again and they went on with their lives (as Coco Chanel did) as if nothing had happened. 20 million people did not have that chance... A shaved head an extreme cruelty or mistreatment???

[@wombatwilly1002]

You do know where Hitler got his Eugenics idea right?

[@renskeconnell8038]

@@wombatwilly1002 yes W W I do. I also know that Joseph Kennedy Sr., the Duke of Windsor, Henry Ford, Lindbergh, the (then) Pope and many, many more were Pro Nazi. Does that erase the horrors and crimes of humanity committed by Herr Hitler and his lackeys? My opinion and I do not believe further discussion will be fruitful. Thank you.

[@wombatwilly1002]

@@renskeconnell8038 Wasn't meant to upset you or put blame on anyone but most people don't realize where Uncle Adolf got his inspiration from 😁

[@douglasbubbletrousers4763]

@@wombatwilly1002 Where?

[@wombatwilly1002]

@@douglasbubbletrousers4763 The American Eugenics society who had sterilized 65,000 "undesirables" before it was shut down!

[@renee1961]

Your videos are Very Informative, and Very Well Done. I greatly appreciate all your Work you put into every video. I'm Grateful to be learning so much! Thank You, again!

[@brendajollymore4229]

My father was shot in a small town in France, in the lower back and leg. As children, not understanding, we would ask him to tell us about the war. One day, only once in my lifetime, did he tell us about an event. He said they went into the towns in France to liberate them. In one town, a woman who loved the Germans, killed one of the Canadian soldiers…she stabbed him. They caught her. Later they had the towns people gather in the centre of town. The Canadian Sergeant said loudly, anyone who attacks any Canadian soldiers, this will happen to them……………he slit her throat. The look on his face, we NEVER, asked him again.

[@surgigi1582]

coward men start wars, run away and hide and come back to harass the weak, mostely women.

[@surgigi1582]

typical men, always a source of danger

[@Michael_Hunt]

That sounds like a bunch of bologna.

[@brendajollymore4229]

@@Michael_Hunt You're full of sh..t! I doubt you had a father who went to war. BYW you couldn't be anymore rude. This was my experience and my father was a vet who was shot twice in France. Go back into the hole you came out of since you cannot control yourself to show respect to someone who fought for your freedom.

[@JimmyDurden]

Engaging in combat dressed as a civilian is a war crime and punishable by death

[@Kimosabe4667]

Collaboration with the enemy is treason.

[@brianallsopp69]

I'm sure a load of old scores and petty Jealousies where settled with this as an excuse 🤨 As always a great vid 👍 👏

[@docteurlowbat]

Of course, lots of this was done by that we call in France "last minute resistance". I told about this to my grand mother, and she said that at this time there where no fat people. Their only goal, find food. Jews ? She was afraid because his boss was hiding some and if the germans found them she will be killed. Collaboration ? Bastards that betray France. Épuration ? (purge in english, the french name of theses dark times) The most violent where those who do nothings against the germans. Mens where killed, women "only shaved". "We are civilised, we don't kill women" ... this was an other time ... I only give it as a testimony, pls don't judge 😇

[@anthonytaylor9232]

Yep. As always, the nasty side of human nature will always 'have its day'!

[@surgigi1582]

men treat women as properties, they don't want their properties to be used by others, but they run away like little mice and hide.

[@surgigi1582]

Men start wars and women suffer. Men do not start wars to protect women, but to abuse them.

[@anatolib.suvarov6621]

My grandfather, a WWII veteran told me of coming across two French resistance soldiers beating up, and preparing to murder two Wehrmacht pioneers (demolition troops). He had his driver stop, got out, and in perfect French ordered the Frenchmen to stop. They stopped, looked at him quizzically, then one of the Frenchmen began to raise his rifle to shoot one of the German soldiers. My grandfather withdrew his M-1911A1 and fired one round into the dirt at the rifle-armed Frenchman's feet. Told him in French that these two Germans were his POWs. If they had a verifiable reason to execute them they needed. to file a report with the Provost Martial. If not, they would be guilty of a War Crime for murdering a POW, and he, a Major, would see them hung! The Frogs walked away. He took them to the MPs. Months later he heard that a French Resistance commander in that area filed a complaint with the area Provost Martial about an American Officer "interfering" with his men carrying out "justice". The PM told the Frenchmen that his men were Lucky. That Officer would have surely killed the two Frenchmen had they not surrendered the prisoners. The Frenchman asked why? The PM told him that officer was the JAG for the Corps and is a stickler for the rules. He would have killed your men, brought in their bodies, and the two POW's, then filed a report explaining the usage of the three rounds of ammo. That was my grandfather in a nutshell!

[@thor7856]

Yea a pencil pusher, Nazi's overrun France ,rape French women by the thousands, kill tens of thousands of men women & children and your grandfather takes the side of the Nazi's. Sounds like what a desk jockey story to make himself look like a Rambo.

[@thomasborgerhoff706]

Nice story thank you

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

_'Frogs'_ You're racist and grandfather was a Nazi sympathiser.

[@SirAntoniousBlock]

@@caudron5926 Bien sûr. 😅

[@jharris0341]

Respect

[@etubrutus3501]

It’s amazing how thin the membrane is that separates us from civility and animalistic behavior.

[@shesaknitter]

Sometimes that membrane is extra thin, even when not in the midst of a war.

[@pauldacus4590]

The only French more inviting to the Germans than these French women, was the French army itself. Germans rolled into Paris completely unopposed on June 14, 1940, barely a month after setting foot in the country.

[@znowicotton5176]

Those whom it was forced upon, or whom hadn't other choice, still were punished.

[@suzannebaxter2888]

The humiliation and treatment of these women is disgusting. I remember my granddad saying that a lot of the French people were in fact traitors. The UK and France will always have a contentious relationship, even though the war was over many decades ago we Brits know how much they betrayed us my granddad despised them and he never hate anyone. These women probably didn't have a choice. France never shows it's intentions until the very last minute

[@brianhenley1732]

There are many disgusting episodes in WW2, and a lot of them involve things much worse than shaved heads and public scorn.

[@surgigi1582]

What do you expect from men, they are only there to abuse women.

[@surgigi1582]

And these traitors never got punished.

[@haroldgodwinson832]

Everyone's a tough guy; after the Germans had departed. I suspect there's a lot of 'projection' going on here.

[@haroldgodwinson832]

@ALAIN TERRIEUR When British Intelligence carried out the assassination of Reinhard Heydrich in 1942, the German's executed approximately 4000 Czech civilians. Given that the British were fully aware of what the Germans would likely do in response to the assassination, it raises the question; were the expected reprisals the underlying purpose behind the operation? This of course raises another question. Since the ambush killing of German soldiers by the French 'Resistance' contributed very little to the actual war effort; was the disproportionate response from the Germans the underlying purpose for this killing.? In other words, was the 'Resistance' killing Germans, wittingly or otherwise, to make sure the Germans kept killing French civilians?

[@haroldgodwinson832]

@ALAIN TERRIEUR Sure, but we're not discussing the fighting effectiveness of the Free French forces in WW 2. We are talking about the French collapse during the Battle of France (apparently) and the reason for the large number of French civilians killed by the Germans during the occupation. As far as the Battle of France is concerned; it is simply ridiculous, at this point, to suggest that the French military and civil establishment wasn't responsible for the collapse of the Allied Front. Despite the disparity in populations between the French and German nations, the French military was more than capable of successfully resisting the German assault. Due mainly to inadequacies in leadership and military organization, they failed miserably. We can attempt to distort history as much as we like but the Battle of France could have been won by the Allies if the French leadership, civil and military, hadn't lost it's nerve.

[@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7204]

@@haroldgodwinson832 It was exiled Czech government who ordered that assassination, not the British . Get your facts right .

[@haroldgodwinson832]

@@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7204 I stand by everything I said. Yes, the idea for the Heyrich assassination was conceived by a Czech, but the operation was planned and facilitated by MI6 and the the British Government. The UK based CGIE had no capacity, at all, to mount an operation of this kind. Surely even you would understand that. And the point that I was making remains. The CGIE was made to feel embarrassed by the easy relationship that had developed between the Czech people and the German occupation. They felt compelled, because of that British pressure, to undertake an act of resistance that would turn Czech citizens against the occupation. It was understood, only too well, that killing Heydrich would spark a ferocious German response. That response (the murder of thousands of Czech citizens), was intended to change public opinion in Czechoslovakia and was the primary purpose of the operation. That was fully understood by the British and Czech governments alike.

[@factsdontcareaboutyourfeel7204]

@@haroldgodwinson832You can stand by whatever you like , it doesn’t make it factual ..

[@juliemitchell7873]

Never join in with anyone who wants to engage in hurting people simply because they are on the other side or housing people on the other side. The people who try to instigate such things are the enemy and the ones we need to watch out for.

[@keanureeve877]

Hello, Julie. How are you doing today?

[@coimbralaw]

Okay, Nazi sympathizer.

[@sukamedik9739]

you sound shaved

[@Slikarxxx]

@@sukamedik9739 LOL :)

[@richardshiggins704]

France of all places , the whole country was a collaboration ! I wonder if Coco Chanel had her head shaved ?

[@murielitier8219]

Im french, don't judge us! My grandparents were resistant iin a small town and saw a lot of young men killed, tortured and more by germans soldiers! The women who slept with them knew exactly what they did.... Don't forget that the french resistance knew exactly which of them betrayed and at the same moments french people died in extermination camp. That was really shocking!!!!

[@Petal4822]

The British and the US didn’t trust De-Gaulle. That is why they deliberately didn’t tell him about “Operation Torch” before it happened much to De-Gaulle’s annoyance.

[@galathoughtart]

My grandparents were resistance fighters too. So many stories of hardship and near death - my mother told me about how women were punished for collaborating. I was angry that women who are almost powerless to do anything else were blamed for their survival. As a teen I decided to shave my head before visiting my family in their hamlet. My uncle laughed and said I looked like a hedgehog. No one else got my protest.

[@oqtave.studio]

Being brutalised is not an excuse to brutalise others, yes ? Any punishment without any form of trial or sentencing is unjust, is brutal, and is completely barbaric. That aspect can be judged though, can't it ? Also btw, there are PRISONS for people who "break the law". Resorting to punishment that appears to be thought up by only a Neanderthal on Acid is NOT justice. It is barbarianism and a step closer toward anarchy.

[@khankrum1]

and how many Frenchmen betrayed you!

[@rrichards3399]

what about all the wymn who later took food home, medicine home, their families not shot et.al?

[@kenrehill8775]

It shouldn’t be forgotten that the biggest time of recruitment for the resistance was the last two months of the war, when it was already obvious who was going to lose.

[@kenrehill8775]

@ALAIN TERRIEUR so sexism isn’t a new thing 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@v.gopalakrishnan350]

Wow, "horizontal collaboration with the enemy" is an interesting phrase to describe that! 😂

[@LexlutherVII]

Lol, very very interesting 😂

[@adjam7782]

You may say was it any worse than your neighbours who snitched on you to a German that you were hiding an escaped POW, or somewhere in your house you had a hidden radio. Where I live this happened a lot. Which would lead to their arrest, and then sent to a POW camp, where they more than likely died.

[@adjam7782]

I said what I said as I live in Jersey in the Channel Islands. So am well aware of what happened to Islanders who hid escaped P.O.W and were told on by there neighbours who they thought were their friends and could trust. It just shows you in time of war, you can’t trust anyone and the saying- “Careless talk, cost lives” Couldn’t be more true.

[@eagleman1542]

I had my head shaved the second day of Basic Training and saw a few GUYS cry; it must have been ten times worse for these ladies.

[@ramonlucas2032]

Those guys were pussies.The Drill instructor made me clean the bathroom with a toothbrush because I was laughing at his face .I remembered my brother who looked like him.I was one of the “Weird” ones who enjoyed bootcamp.I was called “grand Pa” since I was the oldest.GrandPa beat them all in push ups and sits ups

[@twinturbo8304]

How about a story about how the German women suffered to the German Russian soldiers

[@chrisvader2630]

No one give a f*ck. All mercy have been used for real victims

[@tlove14u]

They reaped what they sowed!

[@Weshopwizard]

@@tlove14u exactly!

[@coffeecrimegal5968]

Evil doesn’t see race, ethnicity, creed, or gender!

[@ronlackey2689]

@@tlove14u And just how did a German woman deserve to be raped by a Russian soldier? Did she invade Russia? Did she fight against Russia? Did she make German policy about Russia? I can't believe you condone rape in any way, shape, or form. You need to go take a long look in the mirror.

[@lorir5728]

The whole thing is a complete nightmare. Worst levels of what humans are capable of. The vulnerable suffering. Just disgusting how soviet, american, German etc military men that raped, beat and killed women/girls The numbers are staggering. Just pigs

[@jeanproffitte201]

Some Dutch and German samples here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYjQoKaFmtd7Z7s kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHiYnYSeeqxsbJY

[@jeanproffitte201]

Except these humiliations scenes, very few women were killed by the mob, or executed by authorities. On another hand, about 11000 French male collaborators were executed, most in 1944/45.

[@juliebriggs8999]

It's a shame these men couldn't fight against the invaders as well as they fought these women.

[@adox8574]

I am not that empathic to these woman. There is nothing lower they can do then that while their men were fighting.

[@nyakwarObat]

​@@adox8574Julie would definitely be one of them women by her retort. She would look at her country men as weak and the invader the strong provider type and would quickly spread them legs without hesitation

[@Alex462047]

For all the moral outrage expressed about things like this these days, we are not better people now, indeed, some of us talk about killing people in the most horrible ways for mistreating animals, never mind what we might do if they mistreated a child. Some things don't change very much in human nature. After the war there was a great desire to purge, to cleanse formerly occupied areas of any reminders of the defilement that the fascist Wehrmacht brought to them. Ask any rape victim how they feel afterwards, there is a sense of having been made filthy and desiring to be clean again. That is normal and healthy. How many of these women were guilty of willingly collaborating "horizontally" the enemy, betraying their countries in a dark hour, and how many were victims of abuse or circumstances - nobody will ever know. The punishment was harsh, to be sure, arguably justified in the case of those who did it willingly. But the subsequent ostracisation of the half-German children was too much. They weren't at fault for being born.

[@juliewills3592]

Mistreating animals or children is far worse than what these women did.

[@Alex462047]

@@juliewills3592 And that justifies savagery, does it? I put it to you that some of the murderous and sadistic threats I've heard breathed out against people who have mistreated animals, particularly, are both insane and make those who issue the threats by far and away a lower kind of human being than those they condemn. In the case of children, there is an instinctual protective sense at play. Children are the future, they are our descendants, the continuation of our lines. It is natural and healthy to want to defend them too, even to the point of using violence to do so. However, sadism here is also inexcusable. That is an illness quite separate to any desire to protect or to cleanse oneself.

[@amartin9293]

We legally mistreat (mutilate millions of unborn children every year. Yes it has been an evil civilization)

[@reginamoro4269]

@@juliewills3592 how right you are.

[@marthakrumboltz2710]

There are no such things as illegitimate children, only parents.

[@mackiemesser9319]

What they did to these women, many of whom were just trying to keep body and soul together, was horrible enough, but calling having your head shaved and paraded around for a bit to be publicly shamed hardly qualifies as "horrific torture".

[@oqtave.studio]

Have you tried placing yourself as a woman in occupied France during the 1940's ? For those women, it was horrific torture. Torture isn't always physical. They psychologically tortured those women, and left them scarred for life. Is that not horrific enough to qualify ?

[@oqtave.studio]

@ALAIN TERRIEUR Bro, that IS exactly my point. No one cared that so many of these women "slept with the enemy" for fear of their own lives, and the lives of their families. How many women were forced to do it ? No one knew, and no one cared to find out either. The women were just subjected to the humiliation after the war, without any trials or sentencing. My point is, how many atrocities were committed AFTER the war as well ? This was one of them.

[@archanasingh3806]

@ALAIN TERRIEUR the men probably did more than just sleep with soldiers

[@Diego-lt4wm]

It was a mark for the rest of their lives and direct descendency. These towns are characterized for being small, so everyone knows each other. Now tell me that ain't an horrific torture

[@hayvebromier2158]

@@bluewater2017 just accept it: in this day and age, there's a bias against being empathetic toward women and it's likely only going to get worse in the coming years. you're a woman on the side of the road in need of assistance changing your tire? good luck with that. better keep that triple A number handy. and guess what? there are simply too many social forces that have been set in motion for you to ever be able to change this. as life gets shittier for average men, life will inevitably get shittier for most women over time, even if it's all rainbows under a sunny sky for now. Have fun with that world , incel or parent /grandparent of future incel...

[@kendigjl]

The idea of protecting a loving wife and mother for his children is what motivates a man to fight when it comes right down to it. These women really were helping Germany defeat France. It's understandable that these women were treated like this. That being said - if a woman is able to leave an area where there is a war going on, it's probably a good idea to do so.

[@surgigi1582]

The idea of coward men running away instead of protecting their country and then comes back to harass and abuse the women of his country makes me feel understandable if these men were punished in the highest form that is possible. Men all go to war to protect women??? that's the reason of wars? Every single country during WW2 went to war to only protect women? And how they were protecting the women when they indeed fled and handed over their women to their enemies? And a men only protects a woman because of his children, because she needs the women to raise his children? What are you babbling? Yeah, I know men see women as their property, that's why they came to abuse and punish them, because they are men's property and these men were to cowards to fight men. How old are you? you sound like a woman hater and misogynist still telling the tale of men going to war because of women. how long do you want to tell us that lie?

[@surgigi1582]

Maybe men should not fight , eff them fighting and ef their motivation, and ef that you thing that women are only worth protecting because of their children. Men first create wars and cause danger and harm to women because of their selfishness, they come back and abuse women more and now women own them something? And no, the woman did not helped Germans, the French men betrayed their country and fled like r@ts and who are you to tell women what to do and where to flee after you create wars? eff offf.

[@col.waltervonschonkopf69]

It's simply misogyny speaking.

[@kendigjl]

@@col.waltervonschonkopf69 Maybe you should travel to a war zone and inform the men there about your point of view.

[@thatguyjoe007]

Yes I agree. If the women back home are sleeping with the enemy than what are the men in the war suppose to be defending?

[@Shadolife]

Excellent presentation as always. Thank you.

[@jacquesmertens3369]

It's good that you mention the Channel Islands. This is the only occupied area where Germans and locals lived in harmony. The German soldiers stationed there never had to engage in any war activity except at the very end. The local women easily fell in love with the good looking German soldiers. And let's face it: all women were left to themselves for years. How many young, healthy women can be without male company for so long? A German was better than no one at all. And the Germans also provided food.

[@jonathanchurch7561]

What a terrible comment in light of the dead male soldiers

[@jacquesmertens3369]

@@jonathanchurch7561 There's no disrespect whatsoever. The German soldiers were there against their will and everyone tried to make the best of a bad situation. No one knew how long the war would last. When the Romans invaded Britain their soldiers also started mixing with the local women after a while. We're not talking about wives cheating on their husband (although that surely happened too), but young girls who never had a boyfriend. They only had Germans to choose from.

[@ShireTommy_1916_Somme-Mametz]

​@@jacquesmertens3369 lmao. You should read what the Romans said about the Britons. They didn't mix. That's why nobody in Britain has Roman blood. We are Germano-Celtic

[@johnyare8576]

I'm also led to believe a lot of these Women that were finger pointing themselves were using it as a diversionary tactic to mask their guilt during the war.

[@genngeorge9909]

Well, at least we've learned, right? You never hear anyone trying to get us into wars today, right?

[@Petal4822]

The French Resistance were mostly working-class men, who escaped into the mountains because they wanted to avoid conscription into the French Vichy compulsory work service to provide forced labor for Germany. They fled to the mountains to avoid deportation to Germany.

[@matildadhumxoxo5801]

Makes a hell of a lot of sense to me.

[@troutaholic8834]

Remember the victors always write the history…..

[@Petal4822]

The German Blitzkrieg does not work. It only works on small, weak, European countries and cowardly France. Blitzkrieg- could not work on the Russians or Britain because Germany could not use tanks, mobile infantry and air support all at the ONE time in a quick surprise attack. Due to Britain having the channel, being an Island and Russia’s vast land mass and cold winters.

[@diegoc.8518]

@@Petal4822 looks like you need to learn history again, "It only works on small, weak, European countries and cowardly France. " I wonder who has an inferiority complex hahaha

[@Hany-fu1vc]

​@Petal4822 What is the hogus bogus gibberish trash that you wrote that betrays the severe damage that you suffer from in your prefrontal cortex to the extent that you hardly have a vegetative mind to live with that is why you are laughable foolishness. Actually, The German blitzkreig was very powerful and it took six years of fighting against the Americans, the Brotish and the Russians for the Germans to be defeated after horrific battles with much bloodshed and millions of people killed. And of you know anything, you would have read about the battle of Stalingrad and how the soviets were much too weak to face the German army in any open field as the Nazis swept of thousands of miles in Soviet territory capturing Rostov, Kiev, lherspn, Lugansk, Donetsk, Azov, until they reached Stalingrad ( Volgograd ) that os when they were forced to fight in very narrow lanes on urban fight from door to door and didn't have the ability to manoeuver with their superior tanks and firepower, until they were encircled and defeated after causing the soviet to lose over a million soldiers and over 1.7 million civilian casualty from the city. Ho learn before coming to write laughable foolishness that only betrays your ignorance and stupidity. What a shame

[@marktercsak9728]

Uncle John once asked me Mark, How many Frenchmen does it take to defend Paris? I said, I donot know Uncle John , was my reply, Uncle John shot back neither did we. In WW1 if if had not been for the Brits, the Scots, the Welch, the Irish, Australian s, Candians , Belgian troops, New Zealander, French Colonial Forces , British Colonial Forces, etc, Paris would have fell in 1914. Just like it fell in 1940. The sad part of this whole affair is this could all have been avoided in 1919, had France and the British acted like America who signed it's own peace deal with Germany. Nazism would never have risen. Thus they only got themselves to blame.

[@hermione9445]

Its a great pity these BRAVE Frenchmen weren't so brave fighting the Germans .. They gave the traditional French salute ..hands in the air ..🖐️🖐️

[@hermione9445]

@ALAIN TERRIEUR Keep telling yourself that .the fact is the French were a nation of cowards and collabarators .. they haven't had a decent army since Napoleon and we Brits beat him too ..

[@benewgillian6823]

Rosbief ?

[@hermione9445]

@@benewgillian6823 What ???

[@hermione9445]

@alainterrieur5915 We beat the Germans in both wars ..on land sea and air ..Get over it.

[@hermione9445]

@MARKHASSIN-jb9hp Maybe when you're finished Googling and passing yourself off as educated you'll get with the programme ..But l doubt it ..

[@darkoz1692]

The depth of human depravity never ceases to amaze me.

[@fernfreeman1729]

Allied soldiers did the same with German women, this is part of war, it always was.

[@Beepscat1]

The cruelty people inflict on one another is heartbreaking. It seems no one learns.

[@marktercsak9728]

So the Frenchies couldn't beat the German Army in the field and four years latter they take it out on the ladies.

[@lodewijkvandoornik3844]

So the French has been based on the battlefield for like 1000 years, and the first time the weren't, ladies are like: okay, bye! It was not fair for those ladies. It had to be worst...

[@Petal4822]

In WW2, The Germans took Paris without firing a shot, while the brave French just watched on. The French left it to the Allies to liberate France while the Frenchmen willing collaborated with the Nazis. During WW2, Tens of thousands of Frenchmen volunteered for the Milice and Charlemagne SS.Division. They fought for Germany on the Eastern Front and in Berlin. While the Allies fought to liberate their country. The brave US & Allies Soldiers fought and died (not for their own country) but to liberate France. The French should be eternally grateful that the Allies didn’t shave their heads for Nazi collaboration and cowardice.

[@obfuscated3090]

You seem to forget the Free French who hated collaborators and deleted many of them.

[@geeewiz2231]

Oh be quiet, The French saved us in our fight for independence from the British. You're ass wasn't in WWII so save your criticism for somebody who cares.

[@AlexKS1992]

If it were up to me their punishment would be ☠️, I have no respect or sympathy for treason.

[@BelloBudo007]

Two points from me. 1. The head shaving doesn't seem all that much to me. But then maybe back then it was. 2. I wonder if any female Allied Agents got caught up in this. I'd have to think that some were not only innocent, they were actively working to help save their country from Nazi's.

[@kymo6343]

...Dude, do you think they had nice convenient electric razors to shave them with back then? Yeah I'm guessing it was a painful process...

[@BelloBudo007]

@@kymo6343 Far less painful than tar & feather though. Right?

[@juliewills3592]

Some may have been working for the Resistance and only having relationships with Germans to get information for the Resistance.

[@BelloBudo007]

@@juliewills3592 Indeed. Exactly my point. Some so undercover to survive, that even after the war, they may never have been recognised for their deeds.

[@kymo6343]

@@BelloBudo007 So? Lots of things might be more or less painful than another but can still be traumatizing? And also not necessarily anyways, if they were one of the ones who were beaten to death, then I'd say it was at least as bad!

[@northwoodsdad7506]

What would you think was going to happen? There is a reason people say "War is Hell". Any fraternizing with an enemy is going to be punished. Many lost loved ones to the Germans. Public humiliation and some beatings etc is not torture. The occupied could very easily have been much harsher. The men were killed.

[@louisabridge]

Well said.

[@northwoodsdad7506]

@@junlaxa3099 Basicly. Many Germans were part of the"Nazi party" because it is what they felt they needed to do to survive also.

[@louisabridge]

@@junlaxa3099 It is about what is right or wrong. That is what morality is about. either you have morality or you don't. Your making excuses because there women,, when thousands of men have been shot for the same crime. Examine our own bias before you judge me on mine.

[@louisabridge]

@@junlaxa3099 That's the excuse of every concentration camp guard.

[@ponyguy99]

When I think of the millions of Jewish women slaughtered by the Germans, along with their children, having one’s hair shaved, while demeaning and cruel, seems almost tame in comparison.

[@hugolafhugolaf]

It IS tame. Who cares.

[@jonathanchurch7561]

I think many men who lost their arms, legs, faces blown off, and life long injuries, who actually faced, fought and suffered against the Germans, would definitely prefer to CHOSE shaven heads and temporary disgrace,!! Shows you how looking back warps reality.

[@maabbott3422]

Some of the woman had no options other them sleeping with them or get shot it must of been terrible for the woman it's so easy to have a opinion because it hasn't happened to us thank the lord .

[@philliesphorever1964]

From what I understand, it was sometimes this difficult choice or starvation for the family and woman. What a horrible choice to have.

[@oldmandoinghighkicksonlyin1368]

Lot's of men had no choice but to collaborate or be shot. Then there's the soldiers who had to carry out barbaric orders/war crimes or be shot. The poor are the ones who suffer during war. Hopefully this upcoming world war we'll get wise and turn the rich into hamburger meat prior to the outbreak of fighting.

[@olaoyewo2308]

While a lot of the men had no option but to shipped off to war to get shot, killed, tortured. All that canoodling sounds like treason to me.

[@chuckunplugged]

Yeah but hoes keep playing its gonna happen here

[@theotherside8258]

I'm sure they all tried to say they had no option afterwards. They were living it up with German boyfriends while the men were getting killed in the cause to get rid of the Germans. The resistance should have forced them to shoot their German boyfriends.

[@Sassafras30]

So much judgmental behaviour towards women never ends. My heart goes out to these women, some merely looking for love, food & protection.

[@keanureeve877]

Hello, Sally. How are you doing today?

[@theotherside8258]

you mean they betrayed their country for selfish reasons while germans murdered those around them, people who also wanted these things but didnt collaborate.

[@patrickpga2880]

Nobody source love with a enemy. Enemies are… ENEMIES

[@godzilla6490]

​@@patrickpga2880 Thank you

[@j.ehlers1822]

​@@patrickpga2880in your black & white world maybe. If life would be just that easy...

[@jamesdigeorgia6112]

Compared to what the NAZi's did to the French Jews and partisans this was nothing.

[@gordonski9310]

bear in mind without the "assistance" of French Police & Administration the Germans just did not have the resources to track & round up its Jews. Consider the round up of 90% of the Marseille Jews was conducted by French Police with a few Germans looking on.

[@paulmakali8254]

I am watching this clip from Mombasa, Kenya, East Africa. I'm married n father of grown-up girl n boy. I still feel the pain of the dear sisters who suffered during the war. Remember these were people's daughters n wives!!Only the Lord can wipe out the tears of their descendants !!

[@jeanproffitte201]

During 4 years, about 30000 French civilians hostages and Maquis fighters had been executed on the spot without any trial, just after their capture. It was not uncommon to shoot 30 or 40 civilians hostages taken at random, for only 1 Nazi officer or soldier killed. kzbin.info/www/bejne/mqTZcmOLoMmFq9k

[@alainproviste3523]

This kind of reprisals against women for sex or love affair with Nazi soldiers took part all over Europe, and probably worst elsewhere than in France, like in eastern Europe. Dozens of French villages or towns have been destroyed by the occupying forces, such as the village of Oradour-sur-Glane in southwestern France. 642 inhabitants were killed, women and children were burned alive in the church. This village has never been rebuilt and today it is a memorial that has been visited by thousands of people from all over the world.

[@alainproviste3523]

kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXXdfJh7aZmIqLc

[@alainproviste3523]

Some Dutch and German samples here : kzbin.info/www/bejne/mYjQoKaFmtd7Z7s kzbin.info/www/bejne/bHiYnYSeeqxsbJY

[@clouddog2393]

The French never got over the shame and humiliation of being occupied hence the over the top and cruel retributions carried out when they were liberated . Not a condemnation as we do not know how we would react in a similar situation . War strips people of their humanity and makes then act brutally and out of character .

[@gordonski9310]

Right. See Tulle massacre as an example

[@huwjones8862]

@ELIE KOPTER It wasn't an "accident" it was a highly organised cock up by the French authorities. Every time the British would make a stand, usually successful, the French would fold on their flanks making them retreat. Granted that some French units did well, but most did not.

[@huwjones8862]

@ELIE KOPTER Some units did well. Many others did not, especially the higher up officers.

[@Petal4822]

@ELIE KOPTER It wasn’t an accident…the French gave in and waved white flags.

[@benewgillian6823]

Oradour-sur-Glane massacre...

[@hotrod7938]

Sadly many were not willingly sleeping with the enemy. I know Berlin was open season for Russian soldiers for weeks after the war was over. Unfortunately history has not changed today. In Ukraine many reports of the same going on by Russian troops.

[@AshLoRo]

Why is that not being plastered by the Media! That is very upsetting. I hope The Ukraine Men find them. This is Tragic, they probly have wives & children back in Russia. In this day & age. Im heartbroken for those poor women.

[@luga718]

Russians in german territory it's another history(Was war crime)

[@LeeLee-kk1qu]

This happens in all wars

[@thibod07]

Those were excessively hard time for every body. Thank you for sharing a time that we all hope does not happen again.

[@reneelemke2946]

That would be lovely but it never stopped

[@surgigi1582]

What tf are you talking about, it's about the abuse of women by these coward soldiers, the same men that went out and enjoyed klling. Who cared about men and what they went through, no one does, not me.

[@guygrimmett1764]

It's incredibly cowardly behavior to punish a woman for doing what she deemed necessary to protect herself and her children. Not to mention the women who lost their husbands in the conflict needing to feed herself and her children. It never ceases to amaze me how a crowd of people can act in such a cowardly fashion... 🤔

[@roguetrader33]

Nazi sympathizer

[@coolkatz9012]

Many woman I would imagine just went into self preservation mode under the German occupation.

[@ArrowBast]

pickled herself in nazi jism you mean ?

[@futuregenerationz]

Upon giving up their rifles, they were forced to give up their men, their economy, and then their Jews. 'Woke' does not begin to describe where the French people must have been by 1945.

[@fiveowaf454]

Given how large a part of France was officially in a collaboration with Germany through the Vichy Government it seems somewhat unfair as to who was singled out for punishment and who was not, although I can understand the ire of the ordinary person against the Nazi rulers and those were associated with them. It's easy to be judgmental in hindsight of this behavior, but we need to remember the atrocities carried out by the Nazis and the big part informants etc. played in the torture and execution of many resistance fighters and civilians during WW2.

[@doubletrouble9503]

@ELIE KOPTER but strangely, that didn't stop hundreds of thousands of French men and women from collaborating with the occupier , especially the Milice and the Charlemagne SS division

[@Petal4822]

Where were these tough Frenchmen, when the Germans came to town…putting their hands up and waving the white flag. That is why France fell like a pack of cards. Notice the brave Frenchmen waited until the Germans had gone before they started shaving heads….Aww the bravery.🤣

[@fiveowaf454]

@@Petal4822 It's best I don't comment on the actions of the French, if I get started I might not be able to stop ;) and then I might get into a rant about the countries whose governments thought being neutral and letting others do the fighting was an appropriate option when you have someone intent on conquering the whole of Europe, including your own country. In fairness there were some very brave French resistance fighters who risked all against the Germans, however a lot more acted as you pointed out.

[@fiveowaf454]

@@Petal4822 I can only guess the French who weren't in France were emboldened by the fact they weren't in France, while many who were there chose collaboration, over resistance.

[@reginamoro4269]

@@Petal4822 you had better shut up about subjects you are not that sure about. My father got the Croix de Guerre avec palmes for what he did in that war. And he was in the resistance. Among other things.Although I don't expect you to know what that meant and how few of those medals were given.

[@jeanniec1000]

I don’t believe that babies and toddlers should have been punished for their stupid mothers actions.

[@janstaz]

Agree not right

[@terryberkenstock3265]

There countrymen failed them and their hearts betrayed them, how could they dishonor their sister's at the same time farmers and store clerks sold products to the germans.

[@Petal4822]

These tough Frenchmen, were quick to put their hands up and wave the white flag. That is why France fell like a pack of cards. Notice the brave Frenchmen waited until the Germans had gone before they started shaving heads….Aww the bravery.🤣 While the British, Canadians and the US. we’re fighting to liberate their cowardly country.

[@Petal4822]

@HARRY KOSSEC During Operation Torch On November 8th 1942. The British and American forces destroyed the French colonial opposition in the French North African territories which was controlled by the Vichy Regime. The British hoped that the French African corps would offer no resistance but this was proved wrong. The Free French fought against the Allied soldiers that were trying to liberate them. It was only after they were defeated did they decide to change sides and help the Allies.

[@Petal4822]

@HARRY KOSSEC Resorting to rudeness means you have obviously lost the argument. Maybe you should research ‘ Operation Torch’

[@whitewolf5793]

Female collaborators: get their heads shaved, walked around the town, maybe imprisonment (rarely) Male collaborators: either shot or hanged, who knows maybe the guillotine as well (I am not sure about the last one). Women had it so much worse, imagine instead of getting the bullet like the rest of men in a similar situation, you get a new haircut and paraded around. Wow, what great torture women had.

[@crowmagnon4649]

And still, women are soooo hard done by. The poor little things just can't get a break. False me too accusations.

[@Petal4822]

Once the Germans had been taken out… the French changed from Nazi Collaborators to French Resistance fighters. 🤣

[@Petal4822]

These tough Frenchmen, were quick to wave the white flag. That is why France fell like a pack of cards and the Germans took Paris without firing a shot. The tough Frenchmen liked to prey on weak women by shaving their heads, while they waited for the British, Canadians and the US. to liberate their cowardly country.

[@karlvonboldt]

Heads shaved and walked the streets naked

[@Petal4822]

Tens of thousands of Frenchmen volunteered for the Wehrmacht and formed the Milice and Charlemagne SS.Division, and fought for Germany on the Eastern Front and in Berlin. These Frenchmen should have had shaved heads.

[@KM-bc3lm]

ahh yes, because all of the people that went to the camps had it so much better under the Nazi regime. Why are you punishing these women? Collaboration with the enemy, just pat them on the back and say it's ok. It's not like they couldn't have joined the resistance.

[@Vikinggirl1679]

Did you know that the red haired singer from ABBA, Frida, was one of these unfortunate innocent children. Her mother Synni was a teenage Norwegian woman and her father was a married German nazi soldier in occupied Norway and had a wife and children in Germany.. When Germany lost the war he fled Norway before she was born. He never contacted Synni even though he promised he would. They thought he did when his ship was sunk. Synni and her mother had to flee Norway to escape prosecution as neighbors were targeting them and baby Frida. They went to Sweden. Synni died when Frida was 2 and her grandmother raised her in Torshalla Sweden. She was lucky in that way. Children of German soldiers were hated. They were ostrosized, institutionalized raped, experimented on even sent straight to Germany. It turns out Fridas father was very much alive. She found out when she was an adult.

[@zoer7338]

I had a friend who talked about conversations soldiers had on ships headed to WWII. He said that they decided to sleep with French women when they got to France because they might never make it out alive. So obviously French women had a reputation, and he did indeed hook up with a woman in Paris.

[@j0nnyism]

British officers who tried to stop this were threatened and told to stop interfering. A shameful incident all around

[@thor7856]

WHY? France was their country, so the American and British can now tell the French what to do?

[@j0nnyism]

@@thor7856 would you just stand and watch then?

[@marylou3995]

As a women I am not going to judge these women- war, fear, hunger - what would you do to feed your family and stay safe.

[@jeanproffitte201]

For your information, this kind of reprisals against women for sex or love affair with Nazi soldiers took part all over Europe, and probably worst elsewhere than in France, like in eastern Europe. Dozens of French villages or towns have been destroyed by the occupying forces, such as the village of Oradour-sur-Glane in southwestern France. 642 inhabitants were killed, women and children were burned alive in the church. This village has never been rebuilt and today it is a memorial that has been visited by thousands of people from all over the world. kzbin.info/www/bejne/pXXdfJh7aZmIqLc

[@Michael_Hunt]

Not be a traitor first of all.

[@Boilingfrogg]

@@Michael_Hunt precisely.

[@nickfield9492]

Having grandparents who lived under occupation and an uncle who was Free French, I have zero sympathy for collaborators or traitors.

[@peterdebrie]

What do you think happened to all woman when the Russians “freed” them?

[@YourLittleDeath]

For 45 years at least nothing had happened to them. "Officially' that is. Then when the two Germanies were reunited the stories were told.

[@skrayraja]

A penny less women with starving children may be compelled to do many things. Don't be judgemental. I don't know what anyone of us would have done in the same situation

[@WillmobilePlus]

Don't be judgemental. Nah. I'm going to be VERY judgemental. And maybe when some of you actually read about the horrors the French people endured under occupation, you will get why anyone that were "friendly" to the Germans were seen as just Germans with a French accent. France had to deal with 3 German invasions in less than 100 years. Each one wreck the nation and tossed it into chaos. Do you think these people were going to act like some zoomer in 2022 and "not judge"? Dude, please!

[@keithroberts5611]

Your wrong wrong wrong, In times of war the first human reponce is stick together,

[@steveascension9626]

The "untold Past" may show sympathy for these women, but it must be balanced against the mothers & fathers, sisters & brothers of those french soldiers & civilians who were killed by German forces. Your sympathy is not shared by all French people. There were at least 6 million Jews and many millions of others who were killed in German ovens, so at least some of these collaborators survived.

[@killermoon635]

Why should we make excuses for women ?? men who collaboratorate with the enemy are executed... even if they did it out of fear Men were executed for desertion... even if they did it out of fear (scared to fight) Not to mention, that women in most cases are not even forced to fight in the war... While young men were forced to fight.

[@Hany-fu1vc]

What is the hogus bogus gibberish trash that you wrote that betrays the severe damage that you suffer from in your prefrontal cortex to the extent that you hardly have a vegetative mind to live with that is why you are laughable foolishness. It isn't about men or women it os about atrocities committed against those who couldn't defend themselves. The men used to fight in wars but women in most cases were either faced with starvation, raped or were forced to be sex slaves to the invaders. Grow up and stop writing laughable foolishness. Shameful