The HORRIFYING Execution Of The Guernsey Martyrs

Mary I or Bloody Mary as she is more well known is famous for her brutal executions that took place during her reign as Queen of England. She is known for the burnings of Protestants across her realm in which those who refused to return back to Catholicism were executed in horrific fashion. These people who were burned at the stake were also killed in public to show everyone the Queen's power and also to put people off.
The Guernsey Martyrs were three members from the same family, one mother and two daughters who incurred the wrath of Bloody Mary and were executed in horrific fashion. Guillemine Gilbert and Perotine Massey were sisters, who lived with their mother Katherine Cawches. They were accused of stealing a goblet, however during this trial were proven innocent. However what was discovered is their Protestant faith and the fact they refused to attend Catholic Church services. This was a very serious crime and the women were found guilty of heresy, with the standard sentenced being death by burning.
Following this they were all brought to their place of execution and tied to stakes to be burned together in one huge fire. However Perotine Massey was pregnant, and the accounts of what happened next was completely horrific and horrifying with the execution being barbaric.
So join us today as we look at, 'The Horrifying Execution of the Guernsey Martyrs.'
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[@freedomjane1250]

Bloody Mary gave a sinister spin on the phrase, "The family that prays together, stays together."

[@TheUntoldPast]

Definitely, a worrying time for all Protestants during her reign.

[@karfomachet7265]

@@TheUntoldPastAnd the protestants soon burned thousands as witches

[@Mickeyoldkent]

@@TheUntoldPast And of course all started by protestant King Henry VIII let's not conveniently forget

[@secondchance6603]

More like "The family that prays together, slays together."

[@sjenner76]

One correction. It was not policy for pregnant woman to be executed for heresy. Or for babies to be tossed on the flames. Quite the opposite. But, it does show the brutality of this period.

[@davidp4456]

Thank you. I wasn’t aware of this horrendous story. Inspite of human progression and civil society our ability to be barbaric remains the same. It’s truly scary.

[@davesmith1199]

Good Lord these people were barbaric.And how could anyone even watch this horror.What monsters were crawling in these peoples minds?.............Peace,be still.

[@marthas8108]

We have a crowd of "Q" followers in the U.S. who happily waited for public executions following the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol. They directly inherit their barbarism from the lynch mobs of earlier decades. People "were" barbaric then and they "are" barbaric today. Stay vigilant.

[@donbrashsux]

Crowds watching people burned to death..what kind of sick entertainment is this..

[@asicdathens]

For the past 10000 years humanity hasn't changed much. We're still the same savage beasts that killed these women. Even today people are burned to death being accused of being witches or wizards. Today they use mostly gasoline and not wood to burn people. And many countries still have executions although they try to "sanitize" the process

[@beth7935]

​@@asicdathens That's absolutely true, but it's impossible to convince most people. Yes, some societies have improved in some ways, but they've become worse in others. Even in "rational, scientific, civilized" societies: I'm Australian & the way our government treats refugees is utterly appalling, but just as Tudor people thought heretics deserved death, many people think "illegal immigrants" deserve their treatment, so WE'RE not being cruel.

[@geezerp1982]

@@marthas8108 you are sicking and vile ! there were protesters not killers ! you beloved government has killed more innocent people over last 100 years then criminals ever have

[@zoet6452]

I live in Guernsey & walk down the steps most days...it’s said to be bad luck to walk down the middle section of the 3.

[@BygoneChina]

Please do a video on the Bonfire Societies of Sussex (random I know, but all these burning at the stake execution videos remind me of them). The history of these societies is fascinating, but relatively little known outside of the area.

[@TheUntoldPast]

Genuinely planning during Bonfire season to go and visit these. They look amazing and i'd love to capture them in action!

[@moxiemedia]

Damn, I just traced my ancestors back to Sussex. Ford.

[@stantastic4866]

All those pointless deaths of innocent people over a load of nonsense.

[@karfomachet7265]

such is the way of monotheism

[@zenmeister451]

@@karfomachet7265 Such is the way of religion! Can pantheism be any different when it comes to the blind madness of 'belief'...

[@jltrem]

God is love.

[@stantastic4866]

@@jltrem Was he not paying attention when these innocent women were barbarically murdered ? It would've been a great time to prove his existence by showing up for once, and saving their lives.

[@jltrem]

@@stantastic4866 Apparently He had other matters to attend to.

[@wendyr1580]

As a Lutheran, I would’ve been screwed back then! Then again, I’d probably conform to Catholicism because the threat of torture & a brutal death would be too much. And burning the newborn baby 😥💔

[@jerkygastropub7845]

and still religion threatens us even today with fire, praise god or burn forever

[@rebeccasunflower]

Same, Wendy R, so am I. This hits even harder, as I have ancestors from Guernsey. 😦

[@wendyr1580]

@@rebeccasunflower I’m so sorry to hear about that. That would hit me hard, too. Keep the faith, Princess. It’s getting bad again in our ridiculous society that want to eliminate God and history.

[@HK-gm8pe]

you can be executed today also for being a chistian, but overall religion is something that has always devided people, but I still stand more with evangelism than catholicism.... and I think that best thing Henry VIII ever did was to broke from Rome...taht started our modern day society basically.... people were able to read! And think for themselves...yeah it didnt go better right away...James I Stuart was famously witchmad.... killed thousands of innocent women but at least he didnt do it by burning , womn were mostly hanged or garroted but things started to get better , I would NEVETR want to go back into 15th century

[@paradox7358]

"Without religion, we would have no morality." Has to be one of the most ironic quotes in human history.

[@oldgysgt]

Don't blame "religion" for the evil acts of evil people.

[@zoejane9645]

Only religion empowers these behaviours , look what people of the book done in the new world,sick heresy to want to choose for yourself

[@rjlchristie]

@@oldgysgt "Don't blame "religion" for the evil acts of evil people." Why not, it is religion that very often gives them permission and its blessings to behave abhorrently. Often it also provides the tools and instructions.

[@YaMumsSpecialFriend]

@Yongo Bazuk ahh, an intellectual gnat brings the irrelevance of abortion into an argument on the moral turpitude of religion. Was only a matter of time but good on you for mouth breathing such whataboutery nonsense quicker than most apologists for religious stupidity.

[@putdislikehere8760]

Evolution can conjure explanations for reactions not life.

[@terrydanks]

Religion . . . and royalty. The time for both is long past.

[@skeletontoes477]

Nice. Always a pleasure when you upload.

[@brianvector]

Knowing the of the horrific history of the Catholic church, it is a wonder that so many people still embrace it as their religion. Not only a church, it was the greatest seat of power in Medieval Europe. Kings took their orders from the Vatican in Rome. The Catholic church used the iron fist of terrorism and brutality whenever it's power was threatened. This was no more prevalent than during the Renaissance, a time when science was overtaking the superstitious thinking of the church. The Catholic church fought back through the inquisition, the most horrific tribunals Europe had ever endured. Indeed, the church sanctioned being torn apart on racks, eyes burned out, teeth pulled out and red hot pokers rammed into the bloody sockets. Finger nails torn out and burning sulfur applied to the pink tender exposed nail beds. Fingers and toes broken and burned individually, with brutal precision and care. The Catholic church has a long history of unimaginable horrors, including the molestation of children by the clergy for centuries even before the current scandals.

[@flemhawker9134]

You never fail to turn my stomach, but it’s fascinating stuff.

[@hankdetroit2076]

If hearing this story on a video makes your stomach turn then your an insanely weak person...

[@carolmorris404]

@@hankdetroit2076 I am not a weak person. In fact very desensitized to death and suffering. Forensic Criminology being my career path BUT I will never trace my ancestors. I would not want to find that Queen Mary or any of these blood thirsty rulers were once part of my DNA.

[@donbrashsux]

@@hankdetroit2076 ..ok Henry

[@Saucyakld]

Same, the very thought of it is the stuff made if nightmares! How cruel that Queen was!

[@Saucyakld]

@@hankdetroit2076 You turn my stomach, nasty person!

[@SHARKTIC5]

Those love thy neighbours lot horrify me.

[@pgroove163]

Evil is a Great imposter

[@matthewirvin6505]

It's not them who where the issue ...

[@annhollowell5352]

Thank you for another interesting, but gruesome video .

[@ajaston6689]

Ive never heard of this before now and I lived on Sark for a little over a year and hence spent quite a bit of time on Guernsey. Thanks for the knowledge.

[@skeletontoes477]

Great video. Really enjoy the illustrations you use.

[@TheUntoldPast]

Thanks mate, some incredibly images found in Foxe's Book of Martyrs.

[@skeletontoes477]

@@TheUntoldPast Thanks so much for sharing the source.

[@elizabethspedding1975]

Thanks for another great lesson.👍

[@TheUntoldPast]

Thanks for your comment Elizabeth!

[@J.on_Coffee_Cars]

I could never get dates for Kings and Queens into my head when at school (late 80's). Thank you for putting your efforts into these videos. They are very informative, interesting and easy to watch/enjoy. P.S. My favourite tank was the German one that had the depth charger modification to fire it, used in urban fighting.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

I could never get dates at school either.

[@leticiagarcia9025]

Sad and horrific

[@beccaboo3040]

Abortion is the worst. Its murder.

[@beccaboo3040]

Very interesting thanks untoldpast 🙂👊.

[@TheUntoldPast]

Thanks for your kind words Simon! :)

[@fatimamenda1795]

She scares me, like literally, I was never scared of any monarch, yes I despised them but never scared of them. But I am scared of her 😳😳😳. I heard this urban legend by someone who recounted her to me and I was like 😳😳😳. One the scariest monarch to walk on earth honestly. Great video as usual!

[@ShallowApple22]

What makes her truly scary is that she holy, truly & ardently believed that by doing this she was infact saving her subjects from the fires of hell that the flames purged the heracy from their souls.... she believed herself to be their saviour!

[@mrbiggs6818]

I remember being a kid and them telling me to go in the bathroom and say "bloody mary" and spin around 3 times and she would appear. I never worked up the nerve to do it 😂

[@hennerzz3460]

@@ShallowApple22 indeed - 'beware the tyranny of righteous (wo)men'

[@fatimamenda1795]

@@mrbiggs6818 same, I would just chuckle nervously and run to my mum. That legend is scary and I do not want bloody mary to come alive even as a ghost 😂😂

[@fatimamenda1795]

@@ShallowApple22 i seriously was so shocked when i read about her in detail. And it also scared me how some catholic (some, not all.) Said she was actually a good queen and compared her to Elizabeth the first. Thing is, they are trying to condone an act because other did it and it makes me nauseated how fucked up that is. I can never imagine getting burned alive just because I am mot a catholic

[@JSL-ym6nv]

Lol what are the chances, found your channel 5 minutes ago and ya upload a new vid immediately :D yay!!!

[@TheUntoldPast]

Thanks for your comment mate! I'm glad you've found the channel, I hope you enjoy. I upload new videos every couple of days :)

[@JSL-ym6nv]

@@TheUntoldPast No problem! If it weren’t for my bro, who recommended me to search for history videos, I wouldn’t have found your channel. He loves channel like yours and does yt as a hobby can’t wait to see his reaction to your vids! 😃

[@jamieokeeffe2278]

Same legit just saw his video on the lady of York who was crushed

[@bettyswollocks1670]

Hard to believe how bad Mary was when she looks so loving and caring in her portraits lol

[@annhancock3584]

Actually, it is not really that surprising at all Hitler could look like a kind old man around little children.

[@WoodynVA]

All of the Tudors are guilty of blood for religious dogma.

[@Parasmunt]

A nest of fiends.

[@AndriaBieberDesigns]

Love your videos

[@TheUntoldPast]

Thanks!

[@americancapitalist8840]

These kings and queens from this time period were sadistic, narcissistic, psychotic, and just plain evil. I believe they are all in hell.

[@gymynycricket1722]

The responsibility is not with royalty it is with catholicism

[@futureshock5641]

Ultimately religion is the root of all evil

[@ajaston6689]

We're being spoilt! So many uploads lately, they're coming thick and fast. Happy days! 🙂

[@chicagogyrl4846]

I could listen to you read the back of a paint can.

[@andymac6503]

I enjoy yiur interesting and informztive material. May I humbly suggest that you limit your usage of tbe word 'incredibly'?

[@hashtag415]

When my friend invited me to his new house to watch this video he told me to make myself right at home. So I immediately kicked him out. I hate being interrupted whilst watching an Untold Past video.

[@TheUntoldPast]

Haha, Thanks man!

[@roningaijin7701]

Anyone who believes religion brings out the best in us doesn't know a God Damned thing.

[@FandersonUfo]

probably the most well known tale from the Book of Martyrs - and the most horrific in it's own way - it no doubt shocked all those who heard it at the time and later via Foxes' Book and graphic wood cut illustrations ruined any chance of Mary I to be thought of with happy memory - TY for another great vid full of beautiful photography of Guernsey where this horror took place - 🛸👽

[@TheUntoldPast]

Thanks for your kind words - I'd love to visit Guernsey sometime soon to delve into its WW2 History. It truly is a very shocking tale from Foxe's book, and the description although can be taken with a pinch of salt is rather barbaric.

[@FandersonUfo]

@@TheUntoldPast - my guess is the baby was tossed back on the fire - too big of a lie for Foxe to tell I'm sure - a detailed vid on the German occupation might be worth the effort - I don't think there's many on YT - TY again sir

[@memyself-nd-i]

you cannot force anyone to worship God. you can force someone to go through the motions of worshipping God, but God won't accept them. Manmade religion is most hated by God.

[@rjlchristie]

" Manmade religion is most hated by God." Which one? (which god)

[@jonimaricruz1692]

You know what god thinks? Interesting.

[@tazz3663]

yes you are correct, man did indeed made God' I agree 100%

[@jonimaricruz1692]

@@tazz3663 “If triangles had a god, he would have three sides.” -Voltaire In other words, god didn’t make us in his image, we made him in ours.

[@tazz3663]

@@jonimaricruz1692 exactly what I said.

[@juanmanu9652]

Oh, if only Bloody Mary was our queen now. Would be very interesting to know how she would have dealt with gold digger Markle.

[@leedsboy64]

grow up

[@juanmanu9652]

@@leedsboy64 oops, I haven't offended you have I? get over it

[@moistmike4150]

The Guernsey Martyr's history is Horrific in the extreme. This is humanity's dark heart on display for all of history to witness. But don't blame God for this evil - It's a direct result of the human desire for power and hegemony over our fellow man. God sent his Son Jesus to earth to provide for us a way to salvation and to show us how to live a good life of love, respecting our fellow man - even if he/she disagrees with us. Nowhere in the Scriptures does Jesus call for the immolation of those who disagree with God's teachings. Hell is mentioned as a place of torment, where souls of those who reject God's love and path to redemption will go for eternity and "fire" is used as a symbolic, evocative reference for how those souls who've condemned themselves to that eternity in the afterlife will regard their existence. But in no way can, "Love your neighbor as yourself" and "Love your enemies" remotely advocate for the killing, esp. via a horrific death by fire, of those who do not accept His teachings. The Catholic Church has been around for 2000+ years, and in that time it has been, from time to time, corrupted by those seeking wealth, influence and power. It stands to reason that anything that mankind has a hand in running will ultimately become corrupted, and it's not a shocker to think that the sort of evil Europe witnessed during the Middle Ages would eventually come to pass. The only way out of this cycle of evil is to LOVE beyond oneself by accepting Christ and the sacrifice he made for everyone on the cross. It won't make you perfect in this world - you will still stumble and fall short - but it will make you perfect in God's eyes - and it will make it easier for your fallen nature to live beyond it's own, inevitable destructive and hurtful striving to set oneself before other human beings in this life.

[@Gorehoundula]

I don't blame god because he doesn't exist. Men, with your belief in god, did this and continue to brutalize innocent people to this day. Stop continuing the vicious cycle.

[@LRBerry]

I'm surprised anyone knew what was the 'correct' religion they had to follow in those times, considering whoever was on the throne at the time changed things to suit their own beliefs. This execution of the women is horrific enough, but to have the baby thrown back into the flames is truely barbaric.

[@jerkygastropub7845]

why didnt god stop them i dont understand haha

[@jangowan5742]

@lee berry,it doesn't change.demonizing people is one of the easiest things to do, by those in authority..personally i prefer to be guided by the church of St.Colomba,which allowed divorce..Monks could marry a nun,or another..there were no atrocities under that faith..it was a pity at the sy.nod or Whitby, that England

[@HK-gm8pe]

breaking from Rome was REVOLUTIONALLY....it has hanged also catholicism...it began our modern society basically....cause before people werent able to read the bible or even think for themselves ....everything was sooo corrupt, but after Henry broke from Rome people were finally able to read the bible and think for themselves....yeah it didnt get better right away but it did slowly....how you think we got here ? ;D Henry breaking from Rome is sooo important event in history

[@tjchesney4997]

I heard of this story, but found it hard to believe, because all the information was so general, even i could've made it up. But the specifics here, leave no doubt, that it happened. A baby, thrown into a fire? It's beyond imagination, the self-justification of religious zealots never fails to blow my mind. Thank you for the upload TUP.

[@TheUntoldPast]

Thanks for your words TJ. We have to take Foxe's Book of Martyrs with a pinch of salt, but it's a very shocking event.

[@tjchesney4997]

@@TheUntoldPast I still think it's laced with a central truth. I think when Protestants were committing their crimes, he wouldn't have written a book about it. That'd be principled and get you into trouble on both sides

[@tjchesney4997]

No

[@annhancock3584]

They used to throw little Jewish children alive into furnaces when they ran out of zyklon b gas in the concentration camps. Don't ever underestimate the capacity for evil by humans.

[@annhancock3584]

@@TheUntoldPast It did happen though, there is even a monument to the women who were murdered, and when Queen Elizabeth came to power, from what I understand the son and brother of the mom and grandmother who were burned tried to get Elizabeth to punish the people involved.

[@bobgaysummerland]

Ok this IS the worst execution story I have seen yet. I hope there is none worse. All of this in the name of the prince of peace. I think they missed the point.

[@TheUntoldPast]

Definitely one of the worst I've covered. Incredibly interesting though and shows you what a real bad time this was for Protestants to live in.

[@robinforrest7680]

They certainly did...

[@umarabdullah5510]

I saw a video of a Jordanian pilot who was shot down over Syria (while dropping bombs on civilian neighborhoods) get executed by fire. They took him to the ruins of a neighborhood that he had helped destroy, put him in a cage, doused him with petrol, and lit him up. It was pretty damn brutal, especially when his facial fat melted and started dripping from his chin while he was still alive.

[@beccaboo3040]

@@umarabdullah5510 dude why on earth would you want to watch that shit. That's pure evil I get reading about it but God's I'd never want to witness anything so cruel. Not matter what he or they did no one deserves that end.

[@robinforrest7680]

@@umarabdullah5510 yep. I was thinking of that too...

[@lyndaoneill7813]

I wonder how long you would have lived back then if you had no religion?Suppose you would still have suffered the same horrific fate.Absolutely terrible times and all in the name of religion or so they had you believe.Some people are born evil and there were a lot back then.

[@AnaMartins-bo5ux]

People can say whatever they like but in my humble opinion, Mary I was the worst of the sovereign, when taking into account killing in name of religion. Because I think she killed in revenge of what Henry VIII had done to her mum. But in any case, very good video and historic facts.

[@lauraosborne7657]

Love the way they called Henry VIII Henry the apes! All joking aside it's sad that that anyone was tortured and killed for their beliefs - although it's still happening more than 500 years later. Obviously humans have not learned anything in all that time.

[@gracelouise2423]

I'd not heard about this before, how awful. How could they honestly do this to a baby? Crazy :(

[@eddieshredder5740]

Look on the positive side. They saved it from having to live the life of a peasant exposed to hunger, disease and persecution. Better to be dead than alive back then.

[@gracelouise2423]

@@eddieshredder5740 I guess that is another way to look at it..

[@peanut71968]

Utterly obscene and totally ridiculous. 🙏

[@historyrants7649]

Filling in the bloody history while I'm away eh?

[@edwardd3897]

Wow. How brutal.

[@lorenzbroll0101]

These nasty things are always on the edge of society and could come back at any time but just under a different guise.

[@columbaiona3081]

At that time when you were accused of Heresy you were offered the chance to Recant and accept the True Faith - were these unfortunate women so offered such a way out?

[@allisonshaw9341]

NOBODY should ever be oppressed, tortured, imprisoned, or killed over religious beliefs.

[@damnslim08]

I wonder the same thing...

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

@@allisonshaw9341 This isn't Twitter, they asked a question.

[@HK-gm8pe]

this video has too little views, I think people nowadays see Mary more sympathetic than they actually should... yeah I know princess s life was dramatic and all but it doesnt excuse that her crimes were worst of them all.... okay Henry VIII boiling man alive and executing children comes also close but this.... burning a pregnant woman is just too much fr me to see her as sympathetic little princess...she was ruthelsslike all the Tudors was Mary was espcially cruel and deranged

[@foxcell]

Cruelty no no ends...

[@TheMischief9]

.... so much for religion .

[@bellsca1917]

Just horrifying, evern for those times. A newborn baby being thrown into flames....

[@T0by53]

Bloody Mary, shouldn't she have been called Crispy Mary?

[@rusmeister7144]

Fair enough, but the Protestants gave as good as they got when they had power, which Foxe’s book leaves out. It was definitely a two-way street.

[@marie-christinemontegu9503]

Cette exécution est une abomination. Une cruauté insensée. C’est monstrueux.

[@pauliewalsh6875]

Diary note: 11am - Watch videos of brutal execution from 'untold past' on youtube Diary note 11:15am: Visit councellor for years of intensive psychotherapy.

[@curtisdalrymple42]

There are still plenty of Catholics today on KZbin talking about what a great Queen and wonderful person Mary 1 st was for ridding England of Protestant scourge. That was exactly what one person said. It’s kind of scary to think there are a lot of evil and hate in peoples hearts even people who claim to love God, and go to the so called one true Church. I have a feeling their going to be in for a very rude awakening the second after they take their last breath.

[@johnnywhitepride8540]

Did these catholics and protestants read the Bible back then? If so they missed the part that says "thou shalt not kill".

[@backspin6698]

That Mary, I'm glad she is gone. And they say "The world would be MUCH better if women ruled" Not sure about that.

[@shawnsmith9581]

Sounds like what's starting to happen here in America

[@RodrigoBorgia]

and still people admire the queens and kings of their country. instead of throwing them out. and yes ,they are nthe same.

[@eviltaylor1]

Like now but HARDCORE.

[@richardsanchez9190]

And they say religion is a force for good.

[@henkstersmacro-world]

👍👍👍

[@TheUntoldPast]

Thanks mate!

[@pjv9361]

Good job boi

[@TheUntoldPast]

Thanks for the comment!

[@maximasromulus2806]

✨It is so very unfortunate that ONLY subhumans were kings and queens.✨

[@leroyproud294]

Usually the poor victims were given a chance to recant.

[@josephsalazar7643]

Cool voice

[@gerardvanbrakel2080]

What fun time it was !!😳😬

[@johntitorii6676]

Holy beeeeep

[@giselewilhoite6915]

Mary is just a evil

[@MrNegativecreep07]

Foxe probably wasn't the most reliable of narrators though, so wouldn't be surprised if the baby part was made up.

[@TheUntoldPast]

Would agree that we have to take his account with a pinch of salt, being basically propaganda.

[@beth7935]

Do you have ANY other source for this other than Foxe's Book of Martyrs? Because that's essentially hagiography, & I don't accept accounts of saints performing miracles. As far as I know, pregnant women weren't meant to be executed- they'd wait til she'd given birth, then execute her. It's JUST possible that they did execute a pregnant woman, & that it (rightly) caused outrage, but the rest I won't accept soley from a book glorifying martyrs. I'd only start to consider it if there was another source.

[@nealogorman1810]

06:04 If she was pregnant she wouldn't have a new born child.....as the child will not have been born yet.

[@MrIrrepressible]

Bloody mary loojs very evil in those portraits

[@agornath1]

Thank God for the Protestant reformation.

[@pinkfloyd9622]

its something sahdy with that tudor dynasty. Messed up family

[@EssenceEtienne]

Why Mary look like professor umbridge

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Why you speak in ebonics

[@EssenceEtienne]

@@cockoffgewgle4993 because I want to and it’s meant to be funny. Why do you have the personality of stale bread

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

@@EssenceEtienne If you measure personality in Harry Potter references, yes. And glad to.

[@lar842]

Bloody Mary is very scary was a stare

[@doormatt4393]

In all of the pictures of Mary I've seen she's portrayed as having an oddly shaped head that looks quite flat on top. I'm sure the hat didn't flatter it either. 😂

[@madsplattalot8712]

Wow all that n the name of religion, catholics, what some insane people

[@TaZ101SAGA]

All over religion..

[@adrianbell6277]

This must be the most horrific in all this series, to show no mercy at all to a pregnant woman, and then throw her live newborn baby back into the fire with all of them. God bless them. And this is so called Christianity? I do not think so.

[@franceleeparis37]

The Taliban are angels compared to the royal family of England...

[@nikhilsinha7730]

That's just an extremely uneducated statement. The Taliban are known for taking a power drill to your everything for merely existing

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

Lol, that account is obviously absolute BS.

[@beth7935]

Yeah, I'm wondering how many truckloads of salt I should take it with, to say the least- it's basically hagiography, & I'm not going to accept accounts of saints performing miracles, so no. As far as I know, pregnant women weren't meant to be executed- they'd wait til she'd given birth, then execute her. It's JUST possible that they did execute a pregnant woman, & that it (rightly) caused outrage, but the rest I won't accept soley from a book glorifying martyrs.

[@cockoffgewgle4993]

@@beth7935 Why rightly? Women legally kill unborn babies every day now. I don't know whether she was executed pregnant or not. But the baby popping out of her stomach because of the fire is ridiculous, let alone it being alive and finding its way out of the fire.

[@stevefox8605]

So fortunate to live in more enlightened times where religion isn't a thing anymore. Thanks for your hard work 👍🏻👍🏻

[@TheUntoldPast]

Thanks for your kind words as ever Steve

[@JackSmith-kp2vs]

Old religions die new ones are born. Take the new serge of socialism. We will never learn

[@stevefox8605]

@@JackSmith-kp2vs unfortunately true...

[@stevefox8605]

@Yongo Bazuk what's a pp clinic? Presumably you mean abortion? Well the mother gets to decide not some self important nut job.

[@johnjohnon8767]

I wouldn't say ISIS and the Taliban and other extreme terrorists were/ are enlightened. Beheadings, stoning, and others I'm not familiar with in radical states.

[@WILLIAM1690WALES]

The most ironic thing is Megan Markle complains about the terrible racist British Royal family she just happened to change her faith from catholic to Church of England to marry Harry then she states that she was badly treated and had to leave the country and then you hear the tragic stories of these three females but of course the most tragic being the mother with child no wonder British white people do not go to church including myself but I still regard to have good principles.

[@The_Claw91]

Oh please! I call BS on a huge portion of Markles interview. And as for Harry if you're going to make allegations drop a name. Otherwise you leave your whole family open to attack. It's time those two drop the titles, they no longer deserve them. Andrew should also be sidelined and lose her title and position.

[@zxbzxbzxb1]

So, you find the worst example of mans inhumanity to man (or woman in this instance) and think that anyone who didn't suffer that is fine? That's bonkers...

[@maryapatterson]

What these excellent historic videos demonstrate is the absolute brutality and savagery of times past did in the name of religion! People stopped going to church for a whole lot of reasons. The actions of Harry and Megan have no relevance here!

[@jonimaricruz1692]

Evangelicals and Christian conservatives would be perfectly happy with this.

[@treystephens9218]

What an absolutely foolish and stupid thing to type.

[@jonimaricruz1692]

@@treystephens9218 Really? And why is that? It’s been proven over and over in the past. I think it’s merely an observable and historically proven fact.

[@treystephens9218]

@@jonimaricruz1692 If you feel the need to generalize entire groups of people over the actions of a select, then you may as well generalize it to include all of humanity. Every single group has had someone claim they are a part of it, and participated in absolutely abhorrent killings throughout history. There are evil people yes, but categorizing entire groups of people as evil and horrific as to receive some kind of enjoyment from absolute horrendous murders such as this, doesn't make you morally right nor correct. It makes you foolish, and tells everyone that you've became a slave to whatever dogma you fancy, and are near sighted enough not see the bigger picture.

[@jonimaricruz1692]

@@treystephens9218 You are correct, man has always been a wolf to man, this has been a truism throughout our existence. Your generalization that groups of people, essentially the same groups who have perpetrated these brutalities in the past should all somehow be exonerated because not everyone of them participated in them is puerile and laughable. I stand by what I said.

[@cogitoergospud1]

So would the left.

[@DavidVanmeterDutch]

Ah yes. Religion is such a wonderful human achievement.

[@krzysztofciuba271]

probably all kings and queens are in Hell with a few exceptions of saints; AD 1679 A student of Edingburgh was hung for his assertion that among other things Ezra and Moses had written Pentateuch (first five books of Bible, Torah- in J.Romer, Testament the Bible and History,1988); 1536-William Tyndale was burned at stake at Brussels and none of England-Protestants moved to petition for his reprieve. It is very fun to read the acts of Galileo's trial already 100 years after Fr. Copernicus's revolutionary work (dedicated to Pope). Do u think it is more enlightened ...today? How many (% of society knows that A.Einstein reconciled finally the Copernicus-Galileo contraChurch@Akademia trial ? Look at your textbooks and make a poll tomorrow and as ...graduates about it!

[@reefermadnezz9819]

Exactly Why I am A Pagan Raised to be a baptist minister Now and always the Black Sheep you may say...Pagan Im forever until the last day

[@Itried20takennames]

Great that we can pick our religions (or to not be religious), but if you go back 500 years every field was terrible. Saying you are a pagan because of this is like saying you would never be a doctor because the Tudors bleed people and other harmful treatments, that you would never be a Police Officer because the Tudor justice system allowed torture, wouldn’t be an actor because the Tudors didn’t allow women to act and kidnapped poor boys to be in plays, that you would never be an atheist because of Stalin crimes and those of “the Terror” part of the French Revolution, etc.

[@MrGarrett]

@@Itried20takennames Just ignore the edgelord.

[@jblack595]

Makes me so mad ! Little do they know now .

[@Strutingeagle]

Who wants to be a Catholic after watching this?

[@pinkpoodlepaloma]

I know the pictures you show of Mary are only pictures and not photos but you can see she has a mean and spiteful face. Even the artist could see the evil. She was probably in real life even worse. Anyone who could order such brutality must surely be in hell with her father and sister

[@johnlocke3571]

Religion needs to end, its caused so much pain. We as a species are now too intelligent to believe such ridiculous stories but unfortunately some still do.

[@robinforrest7680]

The problem is not god but what man does in.the name of religion. So many martyrs - both catholic and protestant. And all that misery thanks to Henry VIII ...

[@kal9001]

The problem is God... People use their all powerful imaginary friend to justify them stamping their mark on the world. It's an age old story that goes back through almost every religion not only catholic and protestant Christians. Henry the 8th only added a few more drops in the ocean of human blood that has been spilled due to this crap. The whole lot is simply politics disguised to keep people under control. You disobey that control, try to expose the lie, then you pay for it. Thankfully we live in slightly more enlightened times... and I do mean slightly, it would take much to knock us back into those kind of times.

[@robinforrest7680]

@@kal9001 No mate. The problem isn't God. It's man. There's nothing in the New Testament to justify that. On the contrary, the laws of ancient Jérusalem (made by men) condemned adulterers to death by stoning. Jesus didn't agree. He got nailed to a tree (by men in the name of religion) for saying that people should be nice to each other basically.

[@kal9001]

@@robinforrest7680 The only God is the one in the new testament I suppose... No comment on Allah, Zeus, Ra, or who knows what else...gods are invented by people, to control other people... It's likely Jesus, if ever a single individual existed at all, and it wasn't just a number of people doing things that were all attributed to one man in the stories, was calling out that crap and was much closer to being atheist than anything else, and the 'son of god' rubbish manifested after by people trying to capitalise on the storys. Religion in almost ever form is, was, and will be evil and manipulative.

[@robinforrest7680]

@@kal9001 You're entitled to your opinion as an atheist even if I disagree. No point in any further discussion as it will obviously be a sterile one. Just remember that some of the worst atrocities done by men to other men were perpetrated by atheist states. Nazi Germany, the USSR, the French Republic post 1779, Cambodia under the Kmer Rouge... to name just a few. Maybe that's worth remembering...

[@kal9001]

@@robinforrest7680 That's not a bad script, not often the french revolution gets thrown on that list of 'atheism bad', well done. All of those examples have a major theme of control and subjugation. To achieve that you must first remove the existing control and subjugation. Hitler himself wasn't atheist, he just wasn't Christian, he actual views seemed to have changed a lot but he apparently always believed in a higher power. Stalin and the Cambodian communists were both Marxists, both require the state to take center stage and so abolition of religion and imposing the state as supreme is a logical conclusion. The French revolution was in part fueled by the greed, corruption and hypocrisy of the church. the Sh!t storm that ensued isn't anything to do with atheism and everything to do with propaganda and politics. By all means you go and carry on believing about the magical man in the sky, but it's inarguable that belief and superstition such as that has held back human civilization and progress for the best part of 2,500 years, if not more, and has inspired untold suffering and gruesome acts, not just Christianity, but all the rest of them as well. I'll give you that Christianity is far more tame than most, but still has plenty of bad history and even in modern times breeds extremists who commit crimes against all kinds of people, and actively oppose scientific discovery and teaching.

[@putdislikehere8760]

Pinch of salt? If so, why make any of these videos?