The Horror of Methanol Fires | Last Moments

Methanol burns with an invisible flame, making accidents involving it absolutely terrifying.
"Methanol (also called methyl alcohol and wood spirit, amongst other names) is an organic chemical and the simplest aliphatic alcohol, with the formula CH3OH (a methyl group linked to a hydroxyl group, often abbreviated as MeOH). It is a light, volatile, colourless, flammable liquid with a distinctive alcoholic odour similar to that of ethanol (potable alcohol). Methanol acquired the name wood alcohol because it was once produced chiefly by the destructive distillation of wood. Today, methanol is mainly produced industrially by hydrogenation of carbon monoxide.
Methanol consists of a methyl group linked to a polar hydroxyl group. With more than 20 million tons produced annually, it is used as a precursor to other commodity chemicals, including formaldehyde, acetic acid, methyl tert-butyl ether, methyl benzoate, anisole, peroxyacids, as well as a host of more specialised chemicals."
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[@beeftec5862]

Onwards to the million! Well deserved, you make great videos. Where'd you get your shades?

[@Ninjalette666]

3rd-Degree Burns not 3 degree

[@TheMikeman1971]

Racing is not my thing but i had no clue this happens , maybe get rid of it or better protections in place jeeze what horror !

[@pablodepablonesybetlog2894]

0p

[@gdragonlord749]

Thermal imagers can easily solve this issue. The problem is supply and using it in a way that would not confuse hot asphalt or cars with fire.

[@Waflenoob]

Methanol fires sound like one of those things in a nightmare, except real.

[@Waflenoob]

@@yeaman3214 You’ve said this exact same comment 34 times on this video, should I really trust that you aren’t a bot?

[@ShawnMcClurg]

I guess you could call it nightmare fuel.

[@timmy6890]

Fr

[@timmy6890]

@@ShawnMcClurg 🥁🥁📡

[@SFbayArea94121]

Menthol fires are the worst

[@johnpublic6582]

I remember that fire at Indy. It was so shocking that these people were on fire and no one knew for 10s of seconds. Long enough to have killed people if it weren't for all the special protective gear. I can still feel the horror when re-watching it all these years later.

[@blingbling574]

I was 9 when I saw that. The volume was low, so I laughed at the guys wiggling around.

[@pyro1047]

We were lucky incidents have been on a relatively small scale so far, imagine if a wreck sprayed the stands or something like that. You'd have dozens of people inside a fireball, running, screaming, and panicking with no idea what's going on except that it hurts. Anyone trying to comfort them or see what's could be engulfed as well in addition to anything flammable they touch or drip on, and all it takes is a single breath of fire to burn your lungs a lethal amount. That happened to a rowdy drunk that dumped a nearby jug of hand sanitizer on his head, he was tased by cops after and went up in flames, except he was the only one that knew that. He started screaming, patting his head/face, and gasped in a large breath. After a few seconds the cops eventually realized what was going on and put it out, but that one breath was all it took with him later dying in the burn unit from his scorched throat and lungs. I doubt it'll ever happen, but it should be relatively easy to set up a few FLIR cameras around high risk areas at the track that're monitored in a control room or by the fire team there. It'd also be easy to set up a firefighting system similar to an aircraft carriers flight deck and have them in those areas, just have some pipes and mist nozzles installed and if the control room sees a fire break out they can hit the button for that location and flood it with a thick cloud of mist to douse any burning methanol. This would also be effective for other Ethanol/Methanol risk areas besides race tracks.

[@michaellavery4899]

​@YeaMan what?

[@dinonuggiesguy4847]

​@YeaMan yo you the guy on gothamchess too?

[@DogmaticAtheist]

YeaMan is a bot yo... you guys don't know about bot farms? Why do you think every musician on you tube has several million views.

[@steelwitness]

Ive been burned by both gas and methanol. My methanol experience was way worse simply because i was surrounded by idiots. They all laughed thinking i was tweaking or some shit until my clothes started melting, even then they didnt help they just became afraid and kept their distance while i finally found a hose and doused myself in water. 2nd degree burns to my legs and abdomen. The two idiots i was with were actually charged with criminal negligence because we had all three been through the same hazard training

[@fallendeus5641]

hope those morons got locked up for a while... went through training on that exact scenario and were just laughing about it? Their mere existence is a danger to society

[@LateLater1]

ouch, i hope you’re okay now though!

[@Aaron-xr7oc]

Why were they charged exactly, did they cause the burn

[@davidmedina5251]

⁠@@Aaron-xr7oche said “criminal negligence” because they went through the same hazard training as he did. So basically they should’ve relied on their training and actually know what to do, but instead they ignored the true danger even after seeing the man’s clothes melt off his body, they should’ve put him out or assisted him in any way they could instead of leaving him for dead

[@Aaron-xr7oc]

@@davidmedina5251 Well by laws definition it doesn't fit the crime, you are not legally obligated to save someone, "recklessly acting without reasonable caution and putting another person at risk of injury or death". So they must of had a hand in starting the fire? Thats why I am asking OP.

[@RKelleyCook]

Twelve year old me was there right across from the Rick Mears pit at my first Indy 500. No one knew what was going on at first nor why he jumped out of the car, but what you don't see on camera, is that you could see the heat shimmers about 50 feet above them, so the stands figured it out. The concept of Invisible fires were scary lesson for me and showed up in my nightmares periodically afterwards.

[@farhanahad8643]

I am the one who ruined the 69 likes

[@leopinty5103]

@@farhanahad8643 nobody gives a shit.

[@kantor7834]

@@farhanahad8643 I am the one who ruined the 169 likes

[@DarrinDarwinacious]

I’m sorry you had nightmares like that

[@XxheymoonxX]

Wow thanks for sharing your insight that’s crazy. Could only imagine. No pun intended that’s pure nightmare fuel.

[@the_original_Bilb_Ono]

As a gasoline burn survivor, I can tell you that it is unimaginable pain. It's so painful after a few seconds you accept your fate and go into a dream like state and become calm all of a sudden. I accepted death, and didn't die. That's what messed me up the most mentally to this day, probably the root of my ptsd. It's hard to explain.

[@natty7959]

thats really interesting. thanks for sharing !

[@landofthelivingskies3318]

I'm glad you're here. Wishing you Love and Strength from Canada ❤

[@ayoolukoga9829]

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:41-42

[@corporatecapitalism]

@@ayoolukoga9829 Deuteronomy 22:28-29 “If a man meets a virgin who is not betrothed, and seizes her and lies with her, and they are found, then the man who lay with her shall give to the father of the young woman fifty shekels of silver, and she shall be his wife, because he has violated her. He may not divorce her all his days."

[@njones420]

@@ayoolukoga9829 "So now, kill all the boys, as well as every woman who has had relations with a man, Only the young girls who are virgins may live; you may keep them for yourselves." Numbers 31:17 Put that disgusting book away.

[@OFCbigduke613]

As a former firefighter I can easily say that yes burning is the worst way to go. Every single pain nerve is activated and breathing flame or super hot gasses is beyond brutal. Drowning is basically suffocating. Totally sucks but not as bad as burning. Great video Q.

[@GigachadAKM]

As someone who has drowned before, I'd take it again over inhaling flames and searing vapors. No thanks. Fade to sleep as oxygen goes away versus feeling your skin roast away? Nahhh

[@erict3728]

You would think the pain of your flesh being burned is bad enough, but inhaling flames and searing the inside of your windpipe and lungs is a whole other level of unimaginable torment

[@ibijik]

Steam burns has to be the absolute peak of shitty ways to die tho D: i literally cant think of a more painful way to go.

[@IronHorse1854]

As a fellow former firefighter I can't believe any of these guys didn't stop, drop, and roll! I mean I didn't need to have been a firefighter to know that, I learned it in kinder, but seeing it was so frustrating I just wanted to scream STOP DROP AND ROLL DAMN IT

[@childishalbino1952]

I feel like boiling would be worse, the flames would end up destroying the nerves, but boiling with steam or water wouldn't

[@nullera]

I remember hearing something from someone who worked in a NASA facility, where all the employees had to walk around holding a broom out in-front of them, and if the end of the broom suddenly caught fire, that means they found an active methanol fire

[@PainElemental]

It was not there to hurt anyone. it was there to take their flag out. IMO. It was a statement.

[@noranizaazmi6523]

Kind of like that episode of Dr Stone, with that metal stick

[@UdumbaraMusic]

That was just to get the staff to sweep up so they didn't have to hire an expensive contract cleaner.

[@froggygoblin6514]

​@Erik Udumbara good joke

[@adamhaly4263]

That was hydrogen I think. Similar problems with visibility on hydrogen fires

[@Duk3Silv3r]

That scene of Ricky Bobby running around on fire makes much more sense now. And there I was, laughing at that man's torture.

[@_Not.all.RC_]

Goddamit, came back here just to say that and im a year late lol

[@youresoold1216]

I think he was just crazy

[@phillippropst3825]

Ricky wasn’t on fire tho he had no burns

[@titanic55]

@@phillippropst3825He was clearly on fire

[@phillippropst3825]

@@titanic55 Yes just as he was clearly paralyzed too in the hospital after the accident

[@budgiebreder]

A family member of mine is a science teacher. She teaches ADULTS. One of her students thought itd be funny to set a methanol fire in a beaker and not tell anyone when she couldnt figure out if she put it out or not. Instead she decided to tip it down the sink she didnt even turn the tap on. She proceeded to spill it all over the sink and countertop. And made a huge mess of flaming liquid nobody could see. And it wasnt till another student felt the flame that anyone knew there was even a problem. Luckily the tutor worked out what was happening and grabbed the fire blanket and threw it over the second student and she wasnt baddly hurt. The student who caused it got kicked out of the course. Very nearly burned down the whole building with invisible fire. Thankfully it was only a tiny amount and it ran out of fuel before too long and put itself out.

[@heresomewhere7600]

thats so scary to be burned but nobody understands

[@snowflake09161]

she should've been expelled 😟

[@robbobbrah8953]

They should have been charged for arson. What a stupid, pathetic little brat.

[@MrBerserkinTime]

Scary as hell

[@SensitiveSavage]

Got kicked out? That's Harsh though. How the world deals with mistakes in a nutshell 🤷🏾‍♂️.

[@prestonruh7297]

I'm a driver of a methanol-fueled race car and I think it is important to note how the safety for the drivers has improved since this accident. Now, our firesuits are made with another chemical in them which changes the color of the flames to green so that we can see them better. Additionally, fire suppression kits are becoming much more common on our cars, which is helping lower the amount of injuries caused by methanol fires.

[@seanrosenau2088]

What is the reason for methanol over gas? Does methanol get better gas mileage or burns cleaner in the engine?

[@BenHelweg]

This is super interesting thanks for sharing.

[@Beaner69]

@@seanrosenau2088 the video said they added it because it wasn’t as volatile

[@seanrosenau2088]

@@Beaner69 Is that the part where he burns it in cups beside the gasoline and said it wasn't as hot?

[@nimhard]

This is really cool info.

[@namegoeshereorhere5020]

I had a plant manager at my last job who at a previous job had a co-worker get caught in a methanol fire. He survived, actually didn't get too badly hurt, just some second degree burns to his hands and face, but he said that he thought he was losing his mind, he could feel the burning but had no idea what was happening since there was no explosion or anything that would have alerted him to what was happening.

[@kevinireland8020]

You would have thought all that methanol would have clued him in.

[@Thusi98]

New fear unlocked: Methanol

[@joeg5414]

people smoke methanol cigarettes all the time without a problem🤷‍♂

[@JL-dance]

@@joeg5414my friend, cigarettes have menthol, not methanol

[@robokid20001]

I work on old race cars for a living and I've experienced a small methanol fire up close in the shop and it was fucking terrifying. One of the other guys spilled a small carb bowl full of methonal on a wooden bench while I was doing a valve job (that made sparks) on the same bench. Whole top of the bench caught fire and it was invisible until the bench itself started burning. Co-worker got away with a burnt hand and we put it out with an extinguisher, but needless to say, there were a LOT of precautions put in place after that to make sure it didn't happen again, lol.

[@CoreyandCrew]

Meth? Lol

[@surkey5055]

@@CoreyandCrew short for methanol

[@Willzadl]

@@CoreyandCrew short for methanol

[@joeibiden8816]

@@Willzadl could also mean something else

[@TeslasTacos]

Meth???

[@justbubbly9785]

My father raced in Indy car and had been in 2 incidents of “invisible fire” and told me it was the most terrifying thing of his career and I’ve see him go almost 120 into a tire wall. The main thing he mentioned was how much it confused your brain to feel so much pain and the sensation of flame without seeing anything. Scary stuff

[@dark2023-1lovesoni]

I've seen the effects of methanol fires on human skin, surprisingly mild if it's under a minute. Watched my father accidentally ignite his right arm during a Halloween "green fire" display he was working on. Thankfully this was at night, so the blue methanol flame was easily visible even without the colorants. He sustained no significant injuries, as in no hospital, no doctor, we stayed home afterwards.

[@justbubbly9785]

@@dark2023-1lovesoni that’s crazy!!! Ya since my dad was racing they had all the flame retardant clothing that was regulated however around his knees has less for overall mobility so right above his upper knee cap he has a horrible burn that after 25 years still only looks slightly healed. Hopefully your fathers arm is looking alright now!

[@dark2023-1lovesoni]

@justbubbly9785 he put it out fast enough to sustain no burns, though it did damage his clothing, and the lawn. It could've easily been MUCH worse though if it had been daylight out or if the container was full. Sorry to hear about your father's injury. It sounds like it may have also ignited his clothes and/or gotten trapped under the suit. Either of those probably intensified the heat and damage. Burns are some of the absolute most painful injuries, I hope the medics were able to get him through recovery as comfortably as possible (given the circumstances).

[@robertlopez8528]

​@@justbubbly9785 no bb. ,,.

[@Mario_Ramirez]

Did he race in CART?

[@youtubehashandlesnow]

Imagine screaming at everybody telling them you're on fire and they just think you're crazy because they don't see any fire at all

[@SyenPie]

Wow, what an EXCELLENT video! Super concise and well-made with no fillers and engaging content the whole way through. Keep up the great work! 💯

[@sgtbender1335]

I was told about invisible fire as a kid, but everyone I asked about it could not explain. I was told they had seen people burning alive in invisible flames. They made it sound like a phenomenon of unknown origin... almost supernatural. Terrible thing to tell a kid without providing context. I remember thinking, "Great, there's another thing that can kill me, but I can't even defend myself, because you can't even see it". Glad I saw your video after all these years.

[@Purpie_Slurpie]

I wonder if perhaps this is where those ideas of "spontaneous combustion" came from?

[@nathnathn]

@@Purpie_Slurpie that and while i cant remember the name theres a almost impossible but not actually impossible medical scenario which basically boils down to self igniting internally using your fat as fuel. It’s absurdly unlikely to occur but it is possible so its been attributed to a few of those cases. I would google around to try and find more details but my heads not feeling to well right now “flu”.

[@synesthesia2699]

@@nathnathn people do not spontaneously combust bro

[@evlsc400]

Adults in a nutshell really, gotta love that generation lmao. Aren't you glad the internet exists though? Imagine the people before you, like yup kid you just one day burn via invisible flame, all I know is it's very painful, where it comes from? tf if i know, just watch out for it kid. LMAO. I have a similar story in that my mom told me you can die in your sleep when I was younger. Ahhhh who needed to sleep those few days anyways, mom? 🙂

[@jonharrison3114]

@@synesthesia2699 their have been cases of it actually but it’s extremely rare with only a handful of confirmed cases

[@LazerBrain11]

I am an engineer in the gas industry & I thought I'd seen the worst... Methanol fire is absolutely terrifying. Very informative video 🙏

[@woodyfpv5331]

How in the fuck are you an oil and gas engineer and not know about methanol? It's used in production literally everywhere.

[@lilkris3008]

@@woodyfpv5331 right I pray osha is at this guys house

[@ags8507]

@@woodyfpv5331 he never said he was a good oil and gas engineer

[@shamukhi9258]

​@@woodyfpv5331 he never said he is an oil and gas engineer. Rather engineer in oil and gas company. Could be any Engineer even software engineer.

[@woodyfpv5331]

@@shamukhi9258 they literally said "I am an engineer in the gas industry" to open their comment. Tf you talking bout?

[@DreamyReme]

when I was working with my mate in the workshop on a car, he pulled out a welder forgetting he had just used a methanol type liquid ( I still don't know what it was) and he set his arm on fire because it was all over his arm and he just yelled 'GET THE HOSE METHANOL FIRE' and within 15 seconds he was drenched in water, some quick thinking from him.

[@busybody1474]

15 seconds is plenty of time to seriously cook your arm😢

[@DreamyReme]

@@busybody1474 well yes we did take him to the hospital however it was minor burns because of his jacket they just bandaged him up and sent him on his way hes a tough cookie to crack

[@rosemadder5547]

I’m SO glad I saw this. For some crazy reason I don’t think we covered this in EMT school… getting out my book rn to see lol I’m gobsmacked that there wasn’t more focus on this in class…

[@timetravelingtraveler]

So did you find anything on that book?

[@Pantsinabucket]

I know everyone’s focusing on the fires, but give Rick Mears’ dad some praise here. The other guy with the extinguisher bailed, and he picked it back up and saved his son. That’s a true loving father right there.

[@leopold7562]

To be fair, the other guy with the extinguisher caught fire himself

[@Pantsinabucket]

@@leopold7562 yeah definitely valid reason to get the fuck out and get yourself extinguished, but still the dad really stood up and did the right thing by picking it back up and risking the same thing to help his son.

[@breezy5797]

Yeah, if I saw someone on fire I would try to put them out, but if I caught fire too, man you're on your own.

[@inarimusa]

​@@breezy5797 😂

[@johnscustomsaws]

It got me in the feels when I heard that too

[@ValVolfson]

Man, this makes me think of that in the movie Talladega Nights when Will Ferrel started running around yelling he was on fire and everyone thought he was crazy. I had no idea invisible flame could exist like that. That's terrifying.

[@master0poker84]

That was my first thought too!

[@MehIgotnothing]

That's the first thing that popped into my mind when I saw the title too. "You're not on fire, Ricky Bobby!" 😂

[@rickwrites2612]

maybe was it referencing this

[@mike-tha-real]

"the fires hurting my friend!" That scene is all I could think of while watching this.

[@MehIgotnothing]

@@mike-tha-real "Help me, Tom Cruise!" 😂

[@Ash-413]

Hi. Just wanted to say, the algorithm just recommended this video to me and I’m already subscribed. The way you told the story and explained the subject matter kept me very engaged! Great video!

[@FluffyEnbyneering]

If there isn’t already, because methanol fire can’t be seen, there should be some kind of training that if someone catches fire, they should do something recognizable like spinning in circles or something recognizable as to alert others that they got methanol fire on themselves. Or have everyone in proximity to a methanol spill be treated as if on fire regardless if they’re burning.

[@FluffyEnbyneering]

There needs to be a solution

[@Brian-mp2mv]

Industry wide hand signals! At least Stop, Drop, and Roll Spinning and flailing will only provide more oxygen to the fire. unrelated, but when we're done waterskiing. The signal is to tap your head... indicating, I'm done.

[@johnroscoe2406]

All of that goes out the window when you're engulfed in flames and can not think straight because of the pain and shock.

[@dreamcanvas5321]

@@Brian-mp2mv The scary thing is, even though stop, drop and roll might help...that's only if you're actually clear of the rest of the fire. If it's burning underneath you things have just gotten much, much worse for you.

[@kevinireland8020]

Basic emergency first aid training teaches drop and rolll the flames out. ALL personel involved in pro racing should have this VERY basic knowledge.

[@arthurmorgan4137]

My dad was a photographer here in Australia and mainly photographed sprint cars. He photographed a lot of good and bad moments. He once told me how it was a terrifying sight to see a man jump out of his car, flailing around because you knew he was on fire, but couldn’t see the flames, hoping the flames could be put out.

[@johnd5398]

terrifying sight*

[@nicedubs8163]

Jesus. Hoping the flames 'would be'... This is exactly why I get verbally abusive to people who make fun of someone asking a "silly" question when few people in the room are experts. The person asking the silly question is also the person who will put out the invisible fire.

[@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley]

We're taught to stop, drop, and roll here in the U.S. if on fire, would this method help to put out a methanol fire?

[@franciscomoraes8464]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley dunno, but it sure would signal "i'm still burning" to the extinguisher crew

[@helterskelter416]

@@BewareTheLilyOfTheValley unfortunately, not always. if a liquid fuel is covering an area larger, or an oddly shaped area, than you can smother all at once then it can reignite what you just put out. even perfectly stop drop and rolling won't necessarily put out the fire. in cases like this, you might also be rolling in fire/fuel, or spreading the fire, without realizing it since it's nearly impossible to see.

[@youlackingcake]

I remember reading about NASA’s “broom method” a while ago. It was a technique developed by engineers and workers at a nasa facility where they had some kind of gas leak for a while with methane or some other fuel that burned slow and invisible so they couldn’t see if they were walking down a hallway into a fire. They would literally walk around in groups with the person in front holding a broom out in front of them. If there was a fire, the broken would start to burn before them.

[@felixthefennecfox1944]

hydrogen not methane

[@KonwTheTrut]

@@felixthefennecfox1944 hydrogen? dont even know her.

[@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy]

Heard the broom mentioned for finding superheated steam leaks.

[@100GTAGUY]

@@TerryClarkAccordioncrazy that is also a use for the broom test iirc, I think during a dirty jobs shoot in a boiler room (perhaps a city owned one) in NYC they mentioned this when discussing the dangers of high pressure steam leaks and how they go about detecting them without fancy equipment like flirs.

[@CerealExperimentsMizuki]

Using the Dr. Stone method, very smart.

[@211212112]

Here is a little tip. I bet it is the same for methanol. While preparing some samples for a competitive binding assay I used alcohol to dissolve some organics and then a hot water bath to heat the samples and evaporate the alcohol. I wore big gloves that looked like oven mitts that went almost to my shoulder to protect against water steam burns. However, alcohol (and I’m sure methanol) vapor/steam (is steam a solely water related term? Idk) goes right thru oven mitt/cloth type heat protection. Those typical materials provide absolutely no protection from alcohol vapor. After feeling like I was quickly slashed by a knife my wise mentor said “oh yeah alcohol goes at eight thru those gloves. You got to put on a pair or two of latex or nitrile gloves underneath. Moral is be careful and don’t assume your safety equipment/systems transfer and are effective in seeming similar circumstances.

[@kevinireland8020]

Yes, all gases go thru cloth, and steam has an exceptionaly high heat content.

[@LeaningOnJesus]

Is stop drop and roll effective??

[@AshAsmodeus]

@@LeaningOnJesus for methanol, not really. Methanol evaporates at room temperature and that gas is ALSO flammable so though you might put some of the flames outby snuffing them of oxygen, the very air around you burns too so it would simply ignite again... it's why we have those powder extinguishers; it not only snuffs fire by deprivation of oxygen but it also coats you in a non-flamable material, preventing reignition.

[@ilikespagett1514]

There was a lab in a university that got caught on fire from methanol. Nobody really knew if the fire had been put out so for a few weeks the scientists would walk around waving wooden brooms, if the broom caught on fire they knew they'd found another section of the lab that was on fire Edit: as someone pointed out it was NASA and it was a hydrogen fire, still I think this is relevant

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

bullshit xD

[@Hatasumi69]

That was NASA looking for hydrogen fires during the Apollo program. Hydrogen also burns invisibly

[@twizz420]

I feel like if a building was on fire for an hour, let alone weeks, it would be pretty obvious, whether the flames were visible or not.

[@adamclarke2251]

That is horrible but also kinda hilarious at the same time 😂

[@_Riux]

couldn't they just use infrared cameras?

[@efnissien]

The thing is with 3rd degree burns, the pain stops - the nerve endings get burnt. (Defining a 3rd degree burn). One trick I learnt from an old hand was to look above the suspected fire - if it's shimmering with 'heat haze' but no visible flame then you've a methanol fire.

[@mikethorson4031]

My uncle had 3rd degree burns from a gas explosion. It hurt like a mofo. Hurt even more when they had to scrub the burns every day.

[@phyllojoe5346]

@@mikethorson4031 They hurt like hell while healing, but are less painful than 2nd degree initially

[@jay-d8g3v]

@@mikethorson4031 oh my that pain from scrubbing.. ughhh

[@anothermax420]

Yea I played with gasoline and burned roughly a third of my body 3rd degree. Got 2 helicopter rides 3 skin graft surgeries and it all hurt so indescribably badly. The actual incident wasn't too bad due to adrenaline. The aftermath and recovery was a level of pain few could possibly understand. Didn't melt my face tho. I was pretty lucky all considering.

[@ayoolukoga9829]

So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:49‭-‬50

[@Anonymous_Lilac2270]

It’s horrifying to watch because when your confused, you get more scared because you don’t know what’s going on, and that fear of the unknown is terrifying.

[@ThatJay283]

i havent handled methanol, but i have seen the invisible flames of ethanol fires. the flame wasnt even visible, but i could see the heat shimmering off of it. those kinds of fires are only really visible in low light conditions, where they're a visible blue glow, or if there are other sources of ions to give the flame some colour. for example, sodium for orange, potassium for purple, and copper for green.

[@Camphreneas]

Knowing that invisible fires are a reality, and not fiction is very concerning, and terrifying to me. It’s practically just as much of a nightmare fuel to bear witness as the fuel that keeps a flame alight. It’s scary that the only way to tell if someone, or something is burning in an methanol fire is through complete darkness, where you can just barely see the blue glow of the flame, which makes it even more of a nightmarish experience to deal with in broad daylight… Edit: Thanks Chris R for the correction😅

[@vvey4523]

There's worse ; nitrogen. A gaz that can't be seen, smelled, or really detected in any human way, that also happens to suck out all breathable air wherever it starts leaking, basically able to make any confined space an invisible death trap. You could enter a closed space full of nitrogen and not know it, and just die on the spot the second you start breathing because that stuff takes you out almost instantly and without real notice. People have died due to nitrogen leaks, and people going to rescue them thinking they just fainted have died too, just because you have to actively think about that cause of death to even figure out the whole place is a death trap, and every single person kill themselves trying to save the previous one that entered.

[@thebrowns5337]

Drop and roll

[@chrisr5649]

Not ethanol but methanol fire. Ethanol is just regular alcohol

[@BDCMatt]

Grew up a motorsports fan and yeah, methanol pit fires were scary as hell. You almost never see them anymore due to improvements in safety and equipment. Most of the big time motorsports (Nascar cup series, Indycar, F1,) use either specialized gasoline or ethanol.

[@k24civic]

Q16/m5 ftw!!!!!

[@palomaelegante]

of course you never see them!

[@fishingfan1500]

I remember watching the Indy car race at the Gold Coast quite a few years ago now, and I'm sure I remember the protocol if you were to catch fire was to lay on the ground. I could be mistaken though... (I mentioned the Gold Coast race cause I'm an Aussie and normally that's the only race that gets televised here)

[@lefteris426]

And I guess the improved camera technology has a part in safety too, since many motorsport series have thermal cameras all over the place to monitor the heat in the track

[@BDCMatt]

@@palomaelegante they're invisible, damnit!

[@shaswatachowdhury9032]

Really loved your content and articulating the incidents with scientific clarity!

[@stmi8291]

This is both terrifying and incredibly fascinating

[@chaosdweller]

True

[@bradley9856]

you'd think these pit stops would have some sort of facility nearby that can spray you with water, like a tent or something. great video as always, never knew about this!

[@pyro1047]

It'd be relatively simple, some FLIR cameras monitoring at risk areas and high pressure hoses with mist nozzles to just flood an area with a thick cloud of water vapor if they see a fire break out.

[@grigorirasputin996]

That is a good idea however Indy doesn't use methanol any more. Also they've figured out sodium acetate can be added to methonal to produce a much more visible flame. I'm not sure if the current racing series that are using meth implement this or not.

[@MrSpeck321]

not in the 80's

[@lucastraman706]

What they do is they spray water right after a car gets refueled. This way the car doesn't get lit on fire if the fuel hits the brake pads. Also, they have 1 and a half guys with extinguishers per every pit stalls. But yes they do have guys with 2 gallon buckets with water and extinguisher dust

[@grigorirasputin996]

@@lucastraman706 I'm pretty sure indy is using using e85 not methanol.

[@v0w1x2]

I worked on an offshore supply vessel that used to carry methanol out to a production platform. Our induction advised that “if we see someone dancing on deck they aren’t they’re burning”

[@willpomeroy7711]

You mean they “are” burning?

[@NoxietyPrime]

@@willpomeroy7711 No, they meant what they said, although some punctuation would have helped. Something like: "If we see someone dancing on deck, they aren't. They're burning."

[@TeamValkyrie2023]

Grammar fascists lol

[@NoxietyPrime]

@@TeamValkyrie2023 Guilty as charged. ahah. I used to be a lot worse about it, but I've... _mostly_ got it under control.

[@redragon9588]

@@NoxietyPrime yeh being gramarr cop ar'e badd to be feir

[@zyourzgrandzmaz]

"YOURE NOT ON FIRE RICKY BOBBY!!"

[@wolfrainexxx]

Fire, like the dark, does not scare me. Invisible fire, like those things hiding in the dark, scares me on a primal level.

[@hairlesscat6458]

I have a buddy who was a firefighter and one of the first calls he actually went on as a probationary member was a methanol fire. That is no joke, shit was terrifying to hear about

[@ayoolukoga9829]

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:41-42

[@snailcheeseyt]

@@ayoolukoga9829 Matthew is a kinda silly name innit

[@Nigg4pufferfish445]

yes it is indeed

[@ayoolukoga9829]

@@snailcheeseyt As a SNAIL which melteth, let every one of them pass away: Like the untimely birth of a woman, That they may not see the sun. Psalm 58:8 Hast thou not poured me out as milk, And curdled me like CHEESE? Job 10:10

[@snailcheeseyt]

@@ayoolukoga9829 “ur mom gay” -Jesus probably

[@georgespurlock5547]

The fact that Ricky Bobby was acting out a historically accurate representation of a real event is what blows me away.

[@yeeaahhzz]

hELp mE tOM cRUiSE!!!

[@SyenPie]

LMAOOO true

[@samuelchartier3684]

Please, don't let the invisible fire burn my friend! I thought it was a joke as well until I saw this video and started reading the comments 😕

[@john._blazedrula]

I was thinking the same..

[@i_am_say10]

Right I’m sitting here like it all makes sense now😂

[@Marcomanexists]

Well there's a new fear unlocked... invisible fire... The fact that exists is crazy

[@TheBerkerker]

Imagine watching as the skin burns and melts but minus the fire, it would be terrifying because you wouldn't have a fire to block the view

[@glados4765]

I used to travel the US, Canada, and the Carribean building, setting, and fixing servers and reading stations to integrate with radiology devices at hospitals. The burn ward is the most horrifying place ive been. The screams of unfiltered pain and agony knowing the strongest painkillers do absolutely nothing. The smell of burnt flesh, old blood soaked gauss, the patients skin beginning to fuse into the bed sheets and the terrifying shrieks of pain as the patient has to be moved to prevent the sheets from becoming part of their new skin. I have no idea how anyone can work there.

[@laundrysauce354]

That's fucking horrific, having your raw skin be peeled off the bed probably ever couple hours omg

[@rickwrites2612]

I bet many have to be induced into comas at first

[@TR4R]

I always wonder how do they apply anesthesia to somebody who has both arms burned. No IV administration possible. I guess they have to use feet but what happens when they're burned too? Absolutely horrifying.

[@KrogFing]

"I have no idea how anyone can work there." because someone has to do it my friend we are lucky that are people in this world willing to do this job

[@amongsus-yq5ho]

straight out of a nightmare

[@ukaszb9223]

Even when not burning, it's very bad for you. If you're making moonshine and you make some mistakes you end up with ethanol (the drinkable stuff) with some methanol mixed in, and you never know how much. It may be barely noticeable, or it may give you an excruciating hangover, or it may blind you, or it may give you brain damage or even kill you. Fun fact: in Poland, during its communist period, you could buy cheap ethanol for cleaning, disinfection and even low-key heating purposes, which was laced with methanol to make sure it's not drinkable and can be much cheaper than vodka. Homeless people still would drink it and methanol poisoning was a very common cause of death among them.

[@user-bz6gh5ng2m]

Dumbasses shouldve known the desperate would still drink it.

[@jimbartosevich498]

It's very easy to avoid methanol, since that evaporates about 20 degrees Fahrenheit cooler than ethanol. Just discard anything that drips out before you're up to temperature. All non distilled alcoholic beverages contain some methanol. Fruit based fermentations will contain more than grain based. There is a lot of fear of methanol consumption. When concentrated, it can do a lot of harm. That's why it's separated from a distilled spirit. It's also why a good moonshine will just make you wake up with symptoms of dehydration while being drunk from wine will make you feel like your head is in a vice when you wake up.

[@pepeshadilay]

This is true... I drank bad moonshine in Kentucky one time and went blind for about 40 minutes....all I could see was bright white lite....thus the name white lightning

[@johnsheetz6639]

I've heard an old man when I was younger. They said they would strain through bread. I don't know what difference that made.

[@jonahmoran3751]

Wood alcohol?

[@brianholland2916]

Damn that's super scary!!!! Never thought of it. Great video and Info

[@myerr21]

I was severely burned around 18 years ago. I was at a party doing dumb stuff as a teenager. I just remember everything going orange and then my mouth and throat hurting so bad when I took a breath. Then I hit the ground. It was a 30 minute drive to the hospital, I luckily had to of been in shock. It hurt real bad, but not as much as it should. I remember getting to the hospital and immediately being taken back with what looked like every person in the hospital. They gave me as much morphine as they could then gave me atavan. The morphine did nothing, i think, but shortly after the atavan I was basically unconscious. I time traveled to the next morning when I woke up at St Johns Burn Unit, where the amazing doctors there did great work. I ended up having 2nd degree burns on 20% of my body. From 3-4 inches below my nipples to right above my eyebrows. It gave me severe PTSD, I would wake up screaming, anytime I saw fire bigger than a lighter it would make me freeze in place and start sweating real bad. Horrible, horrible experience. -10/10. The worst part was the months and months in recovery, scrubbing my face daily, waking up without any gel on my face...

[@panqueque445]

Knowing that someone could be burning alive and people around could think he's just drunk and dancing is terrifying.

[@creid7537]

… with no music

[@panqueque445]

@@creid7537 you don't need music when you're drunk

[@Willppyro]

@Syethen that’s why Ricky Bobby was screaming I’m on fire I’m on fire lol

[@CoryFPS]

​@@Willppyro HELP ME TOM CRUISE

[@ayoolukoga9829]

So shall it be at the end of the world: the angels shall come forth, and sever the wicked from among the just, and shall cast them into the furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:49‭-‬50

[@happydragon1611]

If you didn't know, 3rd degree burns are treated by take parts of the skin that have not been burned, and placing them over the burned areas. 90% of Rudy's body sustained 3rd degree burns. Think about that.

[@niratsirackod1]

This is something that I didn’t know existed and now unexplainably scared of.

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

for methanol firefighting, they should use infrared goggles appropriately adjusted to daytime. with a well-adjusted IR camera system, you would see the methanol flames probably even more clearly than you can see any flames with the naked eye.

[@TheEviltaco666]

Shit that’s actually a great idea, why don’t the fire crews have goggles like these

[@ovencore2549]

​@@TheEviltaco666 they are extremely expensive

[@cloudluxiferyt1822]

@@ovencore2549 nvgs aren’t good in high light bursts and will break in high heat environments. price isn’t a factor

[@penguino8185]

We have thermal cameras yall. Not only can it point out methanol fires but fires in walls

[@Ass_of_Amalek]

​​​@@cloudluxiferyt1822 I don't mean night vision, that's near infrared. I mean far infrared actual heat cameras/thermal sights like FLIR. there is a huge contrast in far infrared radiation/radiated heat between the daylight background and methanol flames, you just need to adjust the equipment properly.

[@beasticle1199]

as chilling as these incidents are to watch, this actually does provide a valuable and informative insight on a lesser-known hazard that i and presumably many others would have been largely unaware of, not to mention completely unequipped to deal with in an emergency situation. as always, very interesting video Qxir.

[@ltahoe9257]

Seriously! I did not know about this, if I ever encounter someone acting like the guy in the video, imma just assume they're on fire and I have to get the fire extinguisher

[@benjaminmorris4962]

Yeah. The more I learn about hazards, the more I realize the phrase, "What you don't know can't hurt you" is completely BS

[@jonboy9734]

@@ltahoe9257 guy having seizure “don’t worry, I’ll put you out”

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

​@@benjaminmorris4962 And so is "what doesn't kill you makes you stronger".

[@user-tzzglsstle585e38]

@@jonboy9734 Tbf, a guy having a siezure probably wouldn't be yelling "i'm on fire" or something qlong those lines, and their movement would be distinguishable enough

[@TK-un1pu]

Oh so that’s why Ricky Bobby was hollering that he was on fire. This is crazy!

[@yamilandres]

excellent education here.... thanks for making and sharing! blessings

[@lizziecousins-tf3wy]

Wow I never knew this about methanol, frightening, keep the content coming mate!

[@stevenmoomey2115]

Back in the 80’s we used Methanol as an Anti-Freeze on Air Conditioning Chillers, and Condensers that were shut down for the Winter. We would pump it into the water to lower the freeze point. We made sure we didn’t wear our Synthetic Coats, no matter how cold we were. We kept a pump up sprayer handy, to keep our cotton clothes damp, to prevent static sparks. Also we grounded the Metal 55 Gallon Drums, usually to the AC Equipment.

[@sadhu7191]

Yeah iam going to just cut some wood

[@bliss1584]

​@sadhu7191 me too, too complicated just gonna burn wood

[@paulandjana]

At the age of 17 I was engulfed in flames when a container of paint thinners was thrown onto a fire which exploded covering me in flames. Never have I been more terrified and experienced pain like it. I spent 3 months in a burns unit with burns to my lower legs including ankles. Couldn’t have skin grafts because of strep A. And the physio to help me move my ankles to walk properly was also very painful. Don’t get burnt, it’s the worst. Took me years to get right again and have the scares for life.

[@paulandjana]

*Scars but scares is pretty apt too.

[@AdrianRund]

You mean to tell me Ricky Bobby wasn’t lying when he said “I’m on fire!’ Im on fire” and began to pull off his suit lmao

[@TheEventGuy]

Not sure what's worse: being engulfed in invisible flames or having to listen to qxir's voice for 5 minutes

[@armorykittington]

So terrible. Reminds me of one time at a gas station, the pump just started spewing gas all over the place and it couldn't be turned off. I got completely drenched from head to toe. I was in a bad part of a city and the place didn't have bathrooms open to the public. I had to just stand there as some homeless man ran inside and out over and over and over, using the fountain machine to get water to pour in my eyes. If someone had lit a cigarette, I'd be dead right now. Absolutely terrifying.

[@OFCbigduke613]

Jesus man. Fuk the public policy. I would have stormed in there and just gone into the crapper. glad you’re ok.

[@OFCbigduke613]

As a former firefighter I can easily say that yes burning is the worst way to go. Every single pain nerve is activated and breathing flame or super hot gasses is beyond brutal. Drowning is basically suffocating. Totally sucks but not as bad as burning. Great video Q.

[@Jesus4life_39]

😮😮😢

[@100GTAGUY]

In case this happens again, leave the nozzle in your fill spout and go hit one of the many big red buttons labeled "Emergency Pump Stop" asap. There should at a minimum be a least one visible on the outside of the building facing the pumps, if not multiple depending on the size of the station, there's one inside behind the counter for staff to operate should they see an incident from behind the register (tell them your pump won't stop), and sometimes they even have them on the fuel islands themselves. Now personally I wouldn't have let you in the store because A. There's a ton of potential for static discharge and there's a lot of electrical equipment that could arc when turned on, meaning you could catch on fire from simply flipping a light switch or standing too close to a fridge motor that sparks when it kicks on as you're standing there off gassing fuel vapors in an enclosed space. Also there's a chance the vapors could be sucked into the hvac system and spread through the building and ignited by the flame tubes if the heat is on, or another source of ignition elsewhere. And B. That's a hazmat situation, and containing the spill in one area is ideal as opposed to spreading it around. For both safety purposes and making it easier to clean. C. Legally I'd have to call emts to check you out and or treat you, but in the meantime I'd at the least offer to let you spray off with the hose out back and find ya something to cover up with that isn't fuel soaked. So you could actually clean up with some hot water and soap inside without further risking you catching on fire.

[@Purpie_Slurpie]

god, how horrid! and how extremely kind of that homeless man to do everything he could to help you, bless him

[@rcyo-yo447]

My brother in law was in a methanol fire accident. My sister watched him burn not knowing what was happening. Luckily the neighbor knew and saved him. You can say he’s lucky but he’s been through hell. What a nightmare.

[@John-Smith02]

How long ago was it? Is he still alive if I may ask? What physical damage did it do?

[@rcyo-yo447]

@@John-Smith02 yeah he’s still alive. It was about 15 years ago. He had burns on 95% of his body. He’s heavily scarred on his arms and legs because he was in shorts and a tshirt and it took a few years to get his dexterity back but he’s doing fine.

[@John-Smith02]

@@rcyo-yo447 were they 3rd or 2nd or 1st degree burns if I may ask? Can you give more detail? (Obviously don't dox yourself though and don't give out real first and last names)

[@rcyo-yo447]

@@John-Smith02 3rd on arms and legs 1st and second on his hands feet and torso

[@John-Smith02]

@@rcyo-yo447 damn

[@Legendarymixtapes]

Can we take a moment to respect Cal Naughton, Jr. He saved Ricky Bobby's life

[@lukestarkiller1470]

I work as a caterer and we use little methanol gel sternos to keep the food hot while it’s out on a buffet, the flames are visible while under the food because they’re in the dark but when you pull them out they’re very hard to see, and outdoors it’s completely invisible. It’s pretty unlikely you’ll actually get the gel on you while it’s on fire, but it’s still scary to think about

[@RazorO2Productions]

Yeah my parents use these for Thanksgiving

[@Doom_976]

is it gel rather than liquid for increased safety?

[@dayumson9yearsagoupdated867]

​@@Doom_976it's more like your hair gel, those gels actually more flammable than pure methanol since it only needs to touch the fire once to ignite.

[@HellaReckless]

I damn near set the whole venue on fire with these. I hate those things.

[@oldironsides4107]

I saw this happen to a hobo. He was flailing around and trying to alter people he started shedding his hair and his clothes disappeared in smoked. Inthoufg People were fleeing from his stench. But he curled up and just cooked for an hour. Then some guy said “ he hot” and started dumping booze on him which ignited him and he went out the same way

[@HayTatsuko]

I remember Robby Gordon getting into a methanol fire during an Indy Racing League event in 1997. He abruptly took his car onto an infield road, jumped out, and proceeded to roll around frantically in the infield grass. The only sign of the invisible fire was the slow change of his firesuit's color from blue to scorched white in places. He was fortunate to receive only 1st- and 2nd-degree burns in a few areas -- his quick thinking and action saved him from worse, even though it took him precious seconds while still on track to even realize he and his car had ignited.

[@ayoolukoga9829]

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:41-42

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

Yes, quick thinking and that he was probably wearing flame retardant clothing. It really does cast that scene from Taladega Nights in a completely different light with him running around like a maniac with the imaginary fire while everybody is like WTF.

[@zhch]

Stop, drop, and roll!

[@blitzynautilus2420]

@@ayoolukoga9829 cool but i don't recall asking

[@ayoolukoga9829]

@@blitzynautilus2420 You didn't have to: Jesus Said to Preach everywhere in the World: Go ye into all the world, and preach the gospel to every creature. Mark 16:15 And this gospel of the kingdom shall be preached in all the world for a witness unto all nations; and then shall the end come. Matthew 24:14 What I tell you in darkness, that speak ye in the light: and what ye hear in the ear, that preach ye upon the HOUSETOPS. Matthew 10:27 In and out of Season: Preach the word; be instant in season, out of season; reprove, rebuke, exhort with all long suffering and doctrine. 2 Timothy 4:2

[@MrMaxBoy]

Never knew what methanol fire was, it's super scary. Burning alive was my biggest fear, and now this video made it worse. But now I know what to do in certain situations

[@muskiet8687]

It suddenly dawned on me that this must have inspired that Talladega Nights scene where Ricky Bobby is running around while screaming he's on fire.

[@jonathanwalker8730]

I've never even heard of this phenomenon before; that is absolutely horrifying.

[@CasualCat64]

What rock do you live under

[@jonathanwalker8730]

@@CasualCat64 Tell you what, ask a hundred random strangers today if they've heard of a methanol fire and get back to me with the stats.

[@CasualCat64]

@@jonathanwalker8730 all of them knoew

[@hi-go2jl]

@@CasualCat64 not me I’ll vouch for that

[@LuneWatcher]

​@@CasualCat64 I didn't until now, and plenty of comments are about how they just learned about this, with thousands of likes. Sometimes what you think is an obvious fact just isn't as widespread as you think.

[@katiebunny3396]

This is terrifying it’s great to spread awareness about this

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

It amazes me how ignorant people are of methanol fires.

[@SDjoigsrnt39]

@@mikeymcmikeface5599 who hurt you

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

@@SDjoigsrnt39 I'm not sure how you got to that from this but it would be faster to list who hasn't.

[@SDjoigsrnt39]

Ok just a troll , goodbye

[@mikeymcmikeface5599]

@@SDjoigsrnt39 You could try to be more than just a troll.

[@lorrainemarshall8624]

This is new to me, it's horrific. But it's educational.

[@staticbuilds7613]

So all pit crews and fuel places should have infrared sensors which will sound a alarm and red lights when a Methanol fire is detected. This would give people a visual and audio detection of a fire to douse that area with fire extinguishers.

[@rEdf196]

I was 17 at the time. I watched it live on TV, I remember seeing the pit crews suddenly panicking and the announcer said it was an alcohol fuel fire and seeing the fire extinguishers and water buckets and no visible flames freaky.

[@cuddlecakes7153]

That must have been insane to watch. What was going through your head?

[@AnthonyMooreIsTerrible]

Kind of scary to think about knowing my dad worked in a methanol plant for over 15 years. Thankfully he came back home safe every time.

[@j_0427]

thank god

[@quise5751]

This is kind of messing me up mentally because Ricky-Bobby dead-ass couldve been on fire fr, but everybody thought he was crazy...

[@sweetpepino1907]

Did a much better job conveying the horror of the situation than the video of the broadcaster going "HE'S BURNING, BUT YOU CANNOT SEE IT! THE DANGER OF AN INVISIBLE FIRE IS THAT YOU CANNOT SEE IT! THE MARSHALS ARE STRUGGLING TO PUT OUT THIS INVISIBLE FIRE BECAUSE THEY CANNOT SEE THE FLAMES!"

[@stickyfox]

Ethylene glycol (found in antifreeze) can also burn with an invisible flame. You should never reach blindly into the engine compartment of a crashed vehicle because in most lighting conditions you might not know you're reaching into a fire.

[@maplesugar853]

Good to know, thank you

[@phunkeehone]

Valuable information 👍

[@XavierHyena]

......Okay I'll bite. Why _would you want_ to reach into the engine compartment of a crashed vehicle?

[@stickyfox]

@@XavierHyena usually, either a well-meaning passerby attempting to give mechanical help, or the driver attempting to get the engine started after a blown coolant hose or impact with the radiator, I think. It can also happen in a garage if you're doing hot work near a coolant leak.

[@johnd5398]

Most people won't even stop to help, so no worries there. Also, most companies don't use ethylene glycol in antifreeze anymore because it's poisonous to animals and husbands.

[@marlonisaac1]

Holy shit, I live 6 miles away from Butler Motor speedway and remember that terrible accident, and was blind sided when you mentioned our very little race track here in Michigan. I never thought I'd actually see anything from my area being told on this channel. One of my favorite channels on KZbin!!

[@ayoolukoga9829]

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:41-42

[@PaulWashington..]

DO NOT use the word Holy with vile words lest you fall under judgement of the Almighty God! Seek Jesus Christ to save your soul!

[@fireesol]

@@PaulWashington.. Oh my god man. Holy shit. Welcome to the internet. Learn to suck it up or stay offended at a KZbin comment lol

[@ultimaxkom8728]

Jesuspicious

[@firehalf2935]

​@@PaulWashington.. What illness do you have?

[@DJStompZone]

That's why it's "Stop, drop, and roll", not "Do your best impression of an epileptic octopus". If only Mears had known that....

[@atune2682]

thank god the first guy and his father were so aware and alert

[@Bearorgan]

I was at the Butler speedway fire. I was 15 and never went to races but I was visiting my grandparents and other family who wanted to check things out. Everything seemed normal then it honestly felt like a bomb went off. There was a massive fire near the wood shed and it looked like it was spreading to the stands and car ports. Everyone was panicking. My dad through us all in the truck and we left...that's all I remember. crazy to hear something I was at talked about on a video, very surreal.

[@ayoolukoga9829]

The Son of man shall send forth his angels, and they shall gather out of his kingdom all things that offend, and them which do iniquity; And shall cast them into a furnace of fire: there shall be wailing and gnashing of teeth. Matthew 13:41-42

[@IridescentW]

​@@ayoolukoga9829 Schizo

[@one.2622]

Yeah okay

[@ayoolukoga9829]

@@IridescentW I am not mad, most noble Festus; but speak forth the words of truth and soberness. Acts 26:25

[@argoniananthony894]

​@@ayoolukoga9829 ARE YOU OK?

[@fasty7878]

My father's a racer, his friend races with him too. Couple years back in a bad Rocky Mountain Sprint car wreck he was given terrible burns due to methanol flames, and even with several professionals around nobody knew it was happening for a couple seconds. Scary stuff.

[@erkan1414]

is he fine rn?

[@starshooter7128]

my father's a racist!

[@fasty7878]

@@erkan1414 that was a couple years ago. As far as I'm concerned he's made pretty much a full recovery and is back to working on cars and racing.

[@LathropLdST]

​@@starshooter7128 unfunny and inconsequential. Go drink motor oil.

[@Grey_World1]

That's definitely some scary stuff, but thank you for the information. May none of us ever need it.

[@Loop1977]

Reminds me of Ricky Bobby yelling he is on fire. Help me God! Help me Oprah, Help me Baby Jesus, Help me Tom Cruise. 😂😂😂😂

[@AnotherPointOfView944]

Isopropanol also falls into this category. Used as a solvent for cleaning, disinfecting and oil removal. When ignited, it sheds flames at a very low temperature meaning that it doesnt cause burns quickly. One time my arm was on fire with this solvent, but quickly extinguished with a wet cloth. Burned the hairs on my arm, but no harm.

[@khaled99069]

nice profile pic

[@radioanon4535]

However, isopropyl alcohol also is incredibly sooty, which helps to find it

[@mrbuttocks6772]

Honestly you could have just waved your arm around violently and extinguished those flames if they were that weak.

[@eternoplaceboexogeno5840]

so that is a way of shaving

[@shadowlord0162]

@@eternoplaceboexogeno5840 the forbidden shave

[@Silasssssssss]

I have worked at a methanol production plant. 99.99% we often had drills regarding methanol fires. What we did is go out with 2 people, a flir and a fire hose. You can put it out with water but the extinguish ratio was like 30 liters to 1 liter of methanol.

[@Gianfranco_69]

My god that is horrifying.... I used to fuel speedboats,super yachts from a jetty,my friend was filling a leaky speedboat and BOOM the whole thing went up,he instantly jumped into the sea (Mediterranean) and was still on fire when he surfaced...... seawater is THE WORST THING for burns,it took 2 layers of skin off ... i felt the heat from 50ft away,mad thing is he looked 10yrs younger when he fully recovered,the petrol gave him a DIY skin peel.... i think the pain would deter him from doing it again

[@apelincoln]

When you pronounced 3rd degree burns as "three degree burns" you deprived us all of your natural accent making it sound hilarious.

[@Gois83]

Methanol has one insidious detail which isn't related to its flamability but that it's quite poisonous. It can be absorbed through the skin and in relatively small doses can cause permanent blindness (for it attacks the optic nerve) and even death.

[@bread9173]

iirc methanol gets converted to formaldehyde in the body, which is why you get the blindness and nerve damage, among other things. Formaldahyde denatures proteins into a gelatinous goop. Also, its a carcinogen.

[@mook_butt8037]

That’s why you never mix up ethyls and methyls, it can be a fatal mistake

[@101Volts]

There's another detail I've heard; drinking regular Alcohol at the same time is supposed to stop Methanol from poisoning you. But really, I'm not a health professional. Please double-check on that.

[@Gois83]

@@101Volts better not try that. It's not gonna work...

[@mchanna06]

​@@101Volts That is true, but wearing protective equipment when working with methanol is a better option.

[@TK-nn8jd]

I already knew alcohol fires were less visible than most other fuel sources, but seeing that footage of it being literally INVISIBLE if the ambient light was a bit too too strong is legit terrifying.

[@lamario295]

Maybe not physically injured but I'd imagine being burned by, basically, invisible fire has. Some kind of psychological effect. I know it would with me

[@TheBeelzboss]

Looks like they should have thermal goggles for at the very least one safety team member to see the flames.

[@tx4runner459]

I’ve actually never known that methanol burns quite like that. I work in a “performance shop” where we will sometimes use methanol as fuel for race engines in jet boats. Luckily I’ve never had to handle methanol before but I’ve heard it was volatile. Didn’t know it was quite THAT dangerous. The more you know!

[@johnd5398]

The fact that your shop handles it regularly and you DIDN'T EVEN KNOW how dangerous it is makes you a strong Darwin Award candidate. Keep being you!

[@kenlyck1474]

​@@johnd5398as he said he hasn't had to work with it, probably because its not in his job description or because he does other things in the shop all the time.

[@ConnorLinley]

@@johnd5398 Arguably it may mean his shop has failed to properly train him.

[@arrgorndenethor]

@@ConnorLinley or needs more Visible MSDS around the fuels

[@viktoriyaserebryakov2755]

Letting you know that the fire is going to be invisible if it happens kind of seems like an important first step.

[@Sandshark17]

This is honestly such a messed up coincidence, i watched Will Farrel in the "I'm on fire" scene from Ricky Bobby and i never miss a Qxir vid been a long time fan have notifications on, but immediately this vid was recommended after me and my wife were dying laughing at that scene. Then we watched this since we both love your vids and omg, never realized at all how dark that Talladega nights joke is but this is horrific.

[@ingloriousMachina]

That was actually the first thing that came to mind for me...

[@brandon4777]

​@@ingloriousMachina MEE TOOO😮

[@toddposton869]

"Don't let the invisible fire burn my friend!" -Cal Naughton Jr

[@darthsalaciousbcrumb]

That scene of Ricky Bobby saying he was on fire makes more sense now 😂

[@Lucci251]

As a house fire survivor one of the worst things ever is suffocating, soon after the fire happened I went into cardiac arrest, sadly my two sisters and step dad passed soon after. Always make sure to not breath in smoke

[@Nempth]

That's tragic. Hope all is doing well now man

[@CAWZR_]

sorry for ur loss bro

[@haoyuan92]

Condolences to your family

[@Lucci251]

@@haoyuan92 thank you 🙏🏾

[@Lucci251]

@wills5310 I was in cardiac arrest

[@Stoicismisourgreatestteacher]

Being a commercial pesticide applicator/manager for 5 years I've encountered many chemical pains. Burning is probably the second worst pain I've ever had. Worst was a high pesticide exposure. I won't say which one as I don't want to cause issues. I had a hole in my respirator and wasn't aware of it. Couple hours after mixing my stomach started to hurt. I live with pains everyday from work injuries so I ignore it. By the end I was getting ready to leave when I fell to the ground and curled up as the pain transformed into agony. It felt like razor blades were in my stomach in a blender. I started puking up looked like puss for awhile. I don't know how long I was like that until it died down. Didn't have a repeat of that since I'm paranoid on my respirator condition now. But yes being on fire, or corrosive acid on skin is agony. What helps me deal with it easier is I have nerve damage in my elbows so it's normal my nerves are low key firing almost every day.

[@TR4R]

Sounds like you need better protection in your job. I assume many things have changed in the last years but even so, you really needed that. Stay safe. I hope you can retire without too many sequels.

[@fort809]

You’ve sustained all of these injuries in only 5 years of working in the industry? Completely serious question, why haven’t you changed professions yet

[@Stoicismisourgreatestteacher]

@@fort809 well for 1 I'm in an industry that is, in total, crewed by 1.36% of the US population yet is responsible for feeding everyone (i got that figure from the department of labor website). If everyone left like I did, grocery stores would be alot more empty. Yes we import food from other countries but mass majority is grown in country. Also despite making less than 45k for a health hazardous job and no insurance, farming does have its rewarding factors.

[@Candyrock15]

Dude your job is killing you

[@tonyslabu6373]

​@@Candyrock15 thats just agriculture in general

[@toxydash8020]

I remeber lighting some different liquids on fire with my cousin as a kid. One time we made an invisible fire (Luckily it was winter). We made sure the the fire was fully extinguished, and decided to not play with fire, let alone fire that you can't see.

[@samskpopcorner]

this is truly terrifying

[@mig0150]

Another crazy invisible danger I have heard of is super heated / high pressure steam, where a small rupture on a boiler tank would send out a jet of this vapour which would be extremely difficult to spot or hear but at high enough pressures could literally cut you in half if you walked through it. My friend had a close call with this when repairing some electrical wiring at a chemical plants canteen. They were working next to some normal looking heating pipes which turned out to be recycled superheated steam from one of the chemical processes (This was being used to heat the office building and they were not informed of the dangers here). They heard a faint hissing noise coming from the pipe and noticed alot of condensation nearby, they waved their hand along the pipe thinking it would be a burst water pipe but when they pulled their hand up they now had fairly deep laceration right across their hand from the steam. A tiny steam leak in the pipe had been enough to cut the wiring running parallel to the pipe. They got some stitches and were basically fine, luckily enough! The steam was not at a crazy high pressure at that location but still enough to cause damage. I heard that on battleships (WW1 / WW2 era) if they detected a pressure drop in a boiler room the engineers would wave a broom along all the pipes connected to the boiler to locate safe lanes just to walk though the room, the high pressure steam would instantly cut all the bristles off the broom when they made contact. Scary stuff!

[@pyro1047]

It's even more terrifying when you get to the point of "dry steam". IIRC it's basically the same thing, but has gotten so "super heated" that it's basically evaporated off all the water vapor making it even more invisible with no noticeable vapor or condensation. "Oxygen Displacement" is also terrifying, ANYTHING that reacts and give off a gas can fill up and push the O2 out turning an area into a kill zone. There's no warning and you never expect it, the first sign is usually someone passing out, followed by the person that masked up and went after them thinking they're safe. It's happend numerous times throughout history, like damaged warships in WWII or when they salvaged ships at Pearl Harbor. The case I always think of first though was more recent, when a ships crew were inspecting the chain locker for their anchor (Was a big ship, like a freighter or oiler). One man went down the ladder into the hold, and when he got near the bottom he just collapsed for some reason. The man monitoring him sounded the alarm, and he or someone else donned their gas mask and went after him. That man too collapsed, then the guys trained for that stuff got there and pulled them out using their SCBA gear, but it was too late and the first 2 or 3 men were already dead. IIRC the dissimilar metals, combined with the salt water had quietly reacted enough that it filled the hold with gaseous byproducts. Unlike carbon dioxide these wouldn't put your body into "panic" mode, you just pass out after enough O2 deprivation. The worse part is, gas masks don't work in low O2 environments, and even if they did it wouldn't matter since there's no O2 anyways. So it's common in these incidents once someone goes down, that the first person to react becomes another victim thinking they're safe with a mask. The Pearl Harbor ones even more messed up, the "gas" that killed sailors was from their own brothers and food. The semi-flooded compartments filled with decomposing food and bodies trapped the gas, and suffocated some salvage men trying to repair and re-float the Battleships. This is also what happens to damaged warships except the gas is more byproducts of any fires, and fumes from any fuel or hydraulic leaks that get trapped inside compartments.

[@Rockhopper1]

yes ICI in the north of England the fire crews practice the high pressure leak using poles in front of them to find hidden steam leaks. Workers have been cut in two like a laser beam by these.

[@TheRhill3]

Same principle, on the farm we're taught to use a piece of paper or cardboard. 🙂

[@sekgo1265]

@@pyro1047 Not exactly the same, but similar situations as oxygen displacement happens often at farms, when people fall into silos containing manure for fertilizing while doing construction work. One guy falls into the silo and gets essentially covered in shit, then starts to pass out due to the manure giving off methanol gas. Another guy reaches his hand down to pull him up, but instead falls down into the manure and passes out too. Last guy is smart enough to not go down to pull them up, but instead "fish" them up... ... Now you have two guys who're passed out and covered in what's essentially poisonous biohazard waste. I live in an area with a lot of farms, and this was a basic thing taught at my first aid course: Do not put yourself at risk of also falling in, when someone falls into a manure silo.

[@kenosabi]

@@pyro1047 this is why when they teach you about "enclosed space" safety on ships you really REALLY need to respect it. Tho obviously it's not just on ships that it exists but absolutely. The rust alone will eat up the O2 in a small space and you won't realize there is 0 oxygen until your dead.