A question for public debate - Was the effort to sink Tirpitz worth it? Discuss..
@PCSheepy4 жыл бұрын
The Operations Room I think so. As you mentioned. If they hadn’t of rid the threat the RN would have had to keep a large fleet to protect the convoy and it was needed elsewhere. Until she was sunk there was a risk she to the convoys. Once sunk resources could be moved to other theatres.
@stevenlarratt36384 жыл бұрын
Every effort should be made to stop war machines in the time of war, kill one ship save tens and thousands of lives, if not 100's of thousands
@michaelcorey98904 жыл бұрын
Probably due to the propaganda coup for the allies and decimated german navy morale.
@fontaine7174 жыл бұрын
@@PCSheepy I disagree, It took so long and so many sortie, having a few escort light carrier doing aircraft patrol could have been enough to deter the Kriegsmarine to commit the Tirpitz. Those large fleet that patrolled the north sea for 2 years could have been more useful elsewhere like you said, so having them there up until 1944 were naval power wasn't as crucial by then, was not efficient.
@CalasTyphon4884 жыл бұрын
If the RAF and royal navy hadn't made such an effort to sink her and let her roam freely ,how much damage would she of caused to the convoy fleets going to the USSR , how many allied sailers lives would be lost , and the supplies that the USSR desperately needed may of caused a different outcome in the war there if they didn't get what was needed
@roythompson3382 жыл бұрын
My grandfather Sam Thompson was with squadron 9 as a gunner on this raid , he was also part of the dam buster raids with squadron 9 dropping the tall boy in one of the raids . He passed away last week at the age of 99 . RIP grandad , a true hero x
@JR-xo5jp2 жыл бұрын
God bless you and him .They don't make them like your grandfather generation no more .
@keithlillis7962 Жыл бұрын
A true hero - indeed RIP Sir.
@pov7853 Жыл бұрын
Wow, your sam Thompson's grandson, I've read about him May he rest in peace, a brave man and an honour to be able to give thanks to you a member of his family for his service.
@AdamMGTF Жыл бұрын
What life, may we all be so lucky. Rest in peace sir.
@MrSharky5811 ай бұрын
My Father and Uncles also served. . Total respect for that generation
@GaldirEonai4 жыл бұрын
Fun detail about the smokescreens that stopped so many air attacks: It wasn't all smoke. At some point the germans got the idea to pour chemicals into the water to create thick, long-lasting fog. That stuff is still causing environmental issues today. There's a layer of toxic mud at the bottom of that fjord and every time it's disturbed, aquatic life in the area suffers.
@gareaap78064 жыл бұрын
and it's not like you can easily dredge it clean with all the ammunition around there. hadn't heard about that tibit though i'm gonna see if i can find more about it.
@fabiovezzari28954 жыл бұрын
Sad and super interesting. Where are you from? Btw, I heard that Norway once had to drain a mercury lake left by a u boat on the sea bottom
@alexanderyayy33184 жыл бұрын
@@fabiovezzari2895That's kinda correct. In Norway we have an u-boat at the bottom of the sea off the island of Fedje, U-864. The u-boat has mercury on board, and little has been done. There is an ongoing debate about whether to cover the u-boat with stone, or to take the u-boat to the surface and dispose of the mercury. Also, the German u-boat U-684 was sunk by the British submarine HMS Venturer underwater :) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_submarine_U-864
@alexanderyayy33184 жыл бұрын
Also, the trees have stunted growth in their rings around where the Tirpitz laid.
@gent.63024 жыл бұрын
I Will use this opportunity to thank every person who helped us during the war, giving us our freedom back. A bigger thank you than i can write down. Thank you everybody who helped us win back our freedom, so thank you England - France-The 99th division from USA (AMERICAN - NORWEGIANS) - YUGOSLAVIANS- SWEDISH - FINNISH SOLDIERS AND MANY MOORE. THANK YOU! EVERY SINGLE ONE OF YOU. MANY OF YOU GAVE YOUR LIFE. IT WILL NEVER BE FORGOTTEN. 🇺🇸 🇧🇻 🏴🇫🇮🏴🇸🇪🇦🇺🇨🇦🇩🇰🇵🇱🇫🇷🇮🇹 All the flags represented helped us give Hitler his first bloody nose when Narvik was taken back from the Fucking NAZIS nazis. England France and the free polish soldiers were the Heroes in Narvik +Norwegians and some other nordic neighbours.
@fastguy73064 жыл бұрын
I actually live in Tromsø, the city where Tirpitz sank. The tallboy craters are still visible on the closest island. Despite the fact that i live so close, i actually learned a lot from this video!
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@fabiovezzari28954 жыл бұрын
I find so fascinating that a big part of the naval battles of wwii occured at the borders of the world, in the arctic regions
@miketaylorID14 жыл бұрын
We just visited Tromsø in November. My son did a semester at the University. We Drove close to the spot it sank off Håkøya. Unfortunately, as you know, the snow came early this year and we couldn’t see the craters. Tromsø is a wonderful place! Lucky you
@Draxel4 жыл бұрын
@@miketaylorID1 I can inform you that the snow is also leaving late this year - cause it's still there! 😅
@miketaylorID14 жыл бұрын
Oh no! I need to visit again when the snow is gone I think. I cannot let my son visit again. He says he will not come back.!!
@pittsky4 жыл бұрын
My grandfather served on the HMS Nabob(D77) an escort aircraft carrier in Operation Goodwood to sink the Tirpitz. He was a diver. He wore one of those huge metal diving helmets with the windows and was supplied air by a line (Often spoofed in Bugs Bunny cartoons). The Nabob was torpedoed by U-354 but did not sink. I have the helmet he wore on Operation Goodwood. Thanks for this video!
@sunofpeter23 жыл бұрын
That is pretty cool man
@Xingmey3 жыл бұрын
Here is a hint of truth. Noone cares. Stop trying to be relevant for something someone else did. My neighbour had a dog who hunted a cat is just as valuable of a story as your bullshit
@d.olivergutierrez86903 жыл бұрын
"Those who do not learn from history are condemned to repeat it" or your sh*tty abridged version "no one cares" really what the hell are you doing on a channel about history, sh*tting on those who talk about history
@gioIgioj3 жыл бұрын
@@Xingmey Well, he didn't say anything related to "being relevant". Wtf men.
@accountgoogle87273 жыл бұрын
@@Xingmey someone isn't loved
@PCSheepy4 жыл бұрын
Brilliantly done as expected. I’ll be honest. I didn’t realise how many raids there were on it.
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Me neither!
@PCSheepy4 жыл бұрын
The Operations Room what’s next? I need another. Feed my addiction.
@KanJonathan4 жыл бұрын
But why PQ-17 convoy battle didn't mention? Or do you plan to make a separate video about it?
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Yeah separate video. This one was very busy as it is!
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Next is Op Linebacker II. My first trip to Nam
@Norninja3 жыл бұрын
Local here. When visiting my grandmother when she was in an retirement home some weeks before her passing, there was a 98 year old woman there that loved to talk to the younger generations. She told us how she remember the planes coming over the mountains to attack Tirpitz and the massive booms that were heard when the bombs fell. Excellent and informative video!
@JT-19694 жыл бұрын
Amazing how much effort went into sinking one battleship.
@someboiwhogivesadamn3 жыл бұрын
When its brother sunk the pride of the British Royal Navy in a single shot and took a literal ton of ordinance before it finally sank, it becomes more understandable.
@dpeasehead3 жыл бұрын
@JT: If Tirpitz had been sunk during the early and critical stages of the Battle of the Atlantic like the Bismarck was, it would have been a far more useful accomplishment. But, by the time she was destroyed at anchor in 1944, the war had long past her by, and her demise was more about the futility of and the complete bankruptcy of the idea of any single weapons systems being expected to resist the massed technical and industrial output of the Allies than the sinking being a great victory or feat of Allied arms. The 1000 or so German sailors who died when it capsized, and the members of the defending AA crews were sacrificed for nothing.
@เจตน์ศักดิ์ทองเจริญ3 жыл бұрын
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@someboiwhogivesadamn3 жыл бұрын
@Arnold Squirrel and the only thing that wasn't wrong with the Tiger I's was their transmission. yeah buddy, just because you say something doesn't mean it's true.
@someboiwhogivesadamn3 жыл бұрын
@Arnold Squirrel we appear to be at an impasse. well, you can waste your breath on this as much as you want, I'm not going to waste any more time on this, there's a guy on another video that i need to go Troll the hell out of.
@CenturionPrimipilus4 жыл бұрын
After the war they sell it on a parts. Even today you can see a small steel sheets from Tirpitz used in the construction jobs here in Norway. It's a high quality steel!
@MrDaiseymay4 жыл бұрын
Yeah SWEDISH. IT'S THE ONLY REASON THE NAZIS LET SWEDEN STAY NEUTRAL, SO LONG AS THEY SUPPLIED THE QUALITY STEEL THEY NEEDED FOR ARMAMENTS.
@dunruden97204 жыл бұрын
@@MrDaiseymay DON'T SHOUT!!
@fasthracing4 жыл бұрын
@@MrDaiseymay Have you got a hearing aid?
@rikvermar75834 жыл бұрын
also i saw a documentary about the mass scuttling by the captains of about 50 captured german warships in a harbour near scotland as they rather sink them rather than hand them over to their victors - the documentary said that the steel of the sunken german boats was produced before Hiroshima and the huge amounts of oxygen needed to make the steel was pure of any spec of radiation, after the 2 nukes were used in WW2 and with all the testing of nukes around that time and after - the air has been polluted with a tiny spec of radiation and any steel produced from then now has a spec of radiation which they said is rubbish and the pre-nuke steel was so pure it is used in modern scientific lab equipment as its radiation free - mental or what
@ArxInvicta4 жыл бұрын
@@MrDaiseymay The steel wasn't swedish, you're talking about the iron ore.
@SteveMHN4 жыл бұрын
It's unbelievable how much damage these ships can take and how fast they are able to recover.
@winter13533 жыл бұрын
German engineering at it's finest
@captiancholera84593 жыл бұрын
@@winter1353 USS Yorktown would like to have a word with you
@mr.b44942 жыл бұрын
@@captiancholera8459 Honestly both are damn good ships, definitely good engineering on both sides.
@KarnageDon2 жыл бұрын
@@mr.b4494 Immagine what mankind would have accomplished if all the great minds behind those creations worked TOGETHER for a non destructive, common goal in a combined effort: US Economics, German engineering, Japanese diciplin, russian manpower... Guess there could be a point made for every nation out there, so sorry if I didn't mention your 'homeland'.
@MesCaLiN212 жыл бұрын
@@captiancholera8459 No my friend, no comparison at all. It took 26 attacks involving over 1000 planes plus 4 midget u-boats to take the Tirpitz down. A percentage of what hit this battleship would have blown the carrier out of the water.
@jamesharmer92933 жыл бұрын
I was working in a shop a few years ago and an old boy came in and told me it was the anniversary of the day he and his friends attacked the Tirpitz with Barracuda torpedo bombers. He said he lost a lot of his friends that day. Hats off to him, they were very brave guys.
@KillerOrca4 жыл бұрын
Britain: (Proceeds to throw everything and the kitchen sink at the Tirpitz) Germany: (Desperatly patching holes and draining flooding with buckets) STOP BLOWING HOLES IN MY SHIP!
@KillerOrca4 жыл бұрын
@@sg-yq8pm Its a meme my dude. Didn't you watch Pirates of the Caribbean?
@smurphy21464 жыл бұрын
@@sg-yq8pm uncultured swine
@tucker10124 жыл бұрын
@@sg-yq8pm whoooooosh
@ronin19154 жыл бұрын
@@sg-yq8pm Dear god, PoTC is AMAZING, you really need to watch it
@pederiviken48324 жыл бұрын
didnt that junkie hitler get a telegram about this. Fucking tard. Hope his ass got blown to pissssses
@fasthracing4 жыл бұрын
Good video. My father was an officer on HMS Trumpeter an escort carrier that was involved in one of the Operation Goodwood missions. R.I.P.
@Mrtweet814 жыл бұрын
The trees around Kåfjord still shows sign of the chemicals used to cover the fjord in smoke and the shoreline is still littered with debris from bombs and pieces of the Tirpitz. And she isn’t still there, she was chopped up between 1948 and 1957, there are just about 20% of her left but those pieces are 18-20 meters under the surface.
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
That's interesting, has it stained the wood in the trees?
@Mrtweet814 жыл бұрын
The Operations Room She was moved from Kåfjord before her sinking so the 20% of her is in the Tromsø fjord where she was sunk. The impact on the trees isn’t visible per se, but when they study the growth rings, they see no growth for 9 years because of the chlorosulphuric acid that was used as smokescreen damaged the needles of the trees so they couldn’t photosynthesise. It took the trees 30 years to reach normal growth cycle.
@MrDaiseymay4 жыл бұрын
WHAT HAPPENED TO THE UNEXPLODED ''TALLBOY BOMBS'' ETC. WHO VOLUNTEERD FOR THAT JOB?
@Mrtweet814 жыл бұрын
Philip Croft Some of them landed on land and exploded, there are still craters there from that. The unexplored ones probably disintegrated on impact.
@dunruden97204 жыл бұрын
@@MrDaiseymay DON'T SHOUT!
@gravyboat23703 жыл бұрын
The final raid on tirpitz was helped by the local luftwaffe commander. He delayed the order to send up fighters as he was an allied sympathiser.
@presstodelete11654 жыл бұрын
My Dads cousin got his VC for the minisub mission. The only NI VC of WW2.
@joeverna54594 жыл бұрын
Can you please give more information? VC?
@ScawerGaming4 жыл бұрын
@@joeverna5459 Victoria Cross my dude
@_____77044 жыл бұрын
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Donald_Cameron_(VC)
@russellehler67063 жыл бұрын
The minisubs succeeded in taking the Tirpitz out of the war. After their successful attack, she was no longer seaworthy.
@captc0ck5lap603 жыл бұрын
I love the thinking that went into Tallboy. "hmm... Why don't we just make one really big bomb?"
@GabrielKish3 жыл бұрын
It must have been the same chaps that came up with the idea of stuffing an entire ship with high explosives and ramming it into a German dry dock gate. Which was made from something like 15' of reinforced concrete. No known bomb could hurt them. Even Tallboys. So they filled a ship with explosives instead and rammed it the gate. But before blowing up the ship, they came up with the idea of British Commandos jumping off the bomb ship and rushing the dry docks. Blowing up as many U-Boats and there dens as possible then fighting their way up a super long dock to escape on smaller boats that would follow them in. They had to next invent Commando's, which they did. This place they atracked has something like 15,000 German troops stationed there and giant guns lining the sea path for miles. They disguised their ship to make it have a German silhouette to try to get by the guns which kind of worked until it didn't. Imagine reading this plan and then getting the approval to do it. About a third of the Commando's were able to escape after the raid. About a third were captured when they ran out of bullets and the rest were all shot down in firefights. The host of Top Gear was dating the daughter of one of the Commando's who was in this raid and did a documentary on it. Crazy story.
@captc0ck5lap603 жыл бұрын
@@GabrielKish operation chariot? The greatest raid of all? "There's no use in ramming a stout gate with a ship like that" said the commander of the German garrison to the captured commandos, grinning. But just then... There was a _bang_
@jools23234 жыл бұрын
The number of ships, aircraft and casualties is shocking. It's easy to forget how horribly expensive war is - thanks for the reminder.
@sisutrucks3 жыл бұрын
My grandmother told about after one attack, truckloads of dead Germans were driven past their house. And the town Alta. Entire town burned. Every bride blown. Not even e telephone pole was left standing. Two churches only.
@Jabber-ig3iw Жыл бұрын
The biggest cost is human life.
@PaulPullen-i3p Жыл бұрын
A beast that never got to roar.
@nomercyinc6783 Жыл бұрын
no german or axis losses were losses at all, humanity improved every time axis soldiers took their last breath
@jonathanwheeler47674 жыл бұрын
My friend Alan Tomson flew on Tungsten and other raids He talked about them often Unfortunately he passed away last month Aug 2020 He wrote a book just last year about his time and always grew a tear for his Friend Buzz who's Barracuda went in on op Tungsten. He had some good stories
@fuzzykitsune68062 жыл бұрын
I’ve just found out that my great uncle William Murray had the same job as Alan and was also on HMS Furious. I’ve just listened to an interview of Alan telling his stories of squadron 830. He must have known my Uncle. Sadly he was killed 24th April 1944 shot down by flak and we know that the aircraft wreckage was located in 1980 but that’s all we know. I would love to read Alan’s book, his recall was just incredible. I’m so sorry to hear he has passed away, I cried listening to his stories. What a man
@chroo03 жыл бұрын
The picture of the ‘remains’ of Tirpitz is actually the pram they used when they dismanteled the ship. Nothing of Tirpitz is visable. Its a popular dive site though. A piece of the ships armour is placed as a memorial where it sank. Great video
@rexgoodheart34713 жыл бұрын
It just staggers me how expensive it was to sink a single battleship.
@benwilson61453 жыл бұрын
More expensive not to sink them
@steve58253 жыл бұрын
Think of the expense of losing that size of ship also along with the problems it would cause if not taken out of the contest.
@testaccount41912 жыл бұрын
the naval force had nothing else to do
@convue4112 Жыл бұрын
Its not “just” a battleship. I honestly dont understand how people dont know the tripitz was the heaviest and strongest ship the kreigsmarine (nazi germany) ever made. It surpassed that of the bismarck.
@jamesdean2002uk10 ай бұрын
there is only one winner in war. The company that supplies the ammo
@michaelschauf35423 жыл бұрын
Thank you for this, as I had requested a video on it and didn’t realize that there was already one made. I really enjoy the amount of accuracy and information in these videos. 🙂
@FrasierCraft4 жыл бұрын
So I know this is confusing, but you have kåfjord municipality which has a fjord itself (lyngenfjord), and then you have kåfjord which is a fjord about 20km north east of kåfjord municipality. Lyngenfjord lies in kåfjord municipality, and kåfjord lies in Alta municipality. You got the map right, as this actually happend in kåfjord in Alta municipality. Great attention to detail, a lot of historians get this wrong.
@BuddWolf3 жыл бұрын
As usual, you’ve done a magnificent job explaining and showing in detail, major moments in history. The sinking of the Tirpitz helped with allied force morale and showed the determination of Churchill to weaken Nazi Germany’s Kriegsmarine. Thank you and keep up the great work. Best of luck 🍀
@jamestaylor85773 жыл бұрын
Seriously the best channel on KZbin for historical military battles. There are other decent channels but nothing as good as this! He obviously puts a hell of a lot of work into research and then developing and editing the videos. But the way he tells the story and delivers the content is so damn good! You've got a winning formula. Well done, sir!
@Freyja6663 жыл бұрын
Jesus I never realised the tallboy broke the sound barrier. I can just imagine how terrifying that would sound to anyone on the ground underneath
@mikkel066h3 жыл бұрын
Yea imagine those sailors. I bet they wanted to go home after getting raided almost daily.
@danielkelly13353 жыл бұрын
I can’t tell if this is a troll or not but something that is breaking the sound barrier would not be audible until it already hit you
@Freyja6663 жыл бұрын
Acktchually
@danielkelly13353 жыл бұрын
@@Freyja666 *Ackchyually
@Freyja6663 жыл бұрын
@@danielkelly1335 calm down neckbeard UwU
@BLWard-ht3qw4 жыл бұрын
Damn...didn't quite realize how much went into going after the Tripitz. And here I thought the Bismarck was heavily hunted. Very informative, thanks for posting.
@magnus_bd61854 жыл бұрын
Imagine without aircraft carriers most of the historic Battleships would be near impossible to sink.
@DomWeasel4 жыл бұрын
Scharnhorst was sunk by ship-launched torpedoes, as was Bismarck (some argument whether the Germans scuttled her) and the heavy cruiser Blucher was sunk by a land-based torpedo battery. Numerous British ships were sunk by U-boat torpedoes, including Royal Oak, Ark Royal and Barham. Modern torpedoes are designed to explode directly beneath a ship, causing them to 'break their back'. It was the torpedo that truly rendered the battleship obsolete; aircraft were just the most effective platform from which to launch this weapon during the Second World War.
@flufflepuffle62294 жыл бұрын
@@DomWeasel Bismarck was crippled by aerial torpedoes tho
@stork68554 жыл бұрын
@@flufflepuffle6229 Bismark sank after the torps yes but that was after about 7 ships pelted it for quite a while and they tried to scuttle it too
@DomWeasel4 жыл бұрын
@@flufflepuffle6229 Bismarck's rudder was damaged an aerial torpedo but the hull remained sound and the guns active. The battleships King George V and Rodney and the heavy cruisers Norfolk and Dorsetshire fired on Bismarck, devastating the upperworks of the ship but not causing a knockout blow below the waterline. That came when Dorsetshire used its torpedoes.
@fabiovezzari28954 жыл бұрын
Exactly, but It was pleasant for the crews. Because they were not going to evacuate the ship after a few shots at the hull, they were expected to live a heavy fire all over the deck and super structure, since the hull was too thick for the enemy
@Marshal_Dunnik3 жыл бұрын
Probably fair to say no single battleship has ever been subjected to this much attention from the enemy
@cactusman17712 жыл бұрын
Well there was operation tengo with Yamato vs 386 American planes.
@Juniper_2007 Жыл бұрын
@@cactusman1771 yamato and the bismarck class were given a lot of attention, with only two of them being actual menaces, tirpitz only sunk ship was during training and it is the SMS Hessen
@nomercyinc6783 Жыл бұрын
pretty sure the yamato was similiar
@jamesdean2002uk10 ай бұрын
pearl harbour
@quinnfell38244 жыл бұрын
Absolutely fantastic content here. Have become a huge fan in the past week. Have watched almost all of your videos. The production quality is awesomely high and the voice over is professional and easy to follow. Great
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Awesome, thank you!
@larsjacob84 жыл бұрын
Great video! Growing up right next to the supplybunkers in The Fættenfjord, I've heard lots of stories from my great grandma about the Tirpitz, but not so much about the air raids. There was actually a failed mini-submarine attempt to sink the Tirpitz in Fættenfjord, right before she left for Kåfjord. The allies got the subs into the fjord, but the submarines sank in bad weather before they could place the magnetic bombs they carried. The military complex built around the Tirpitz in Fættenfjord are quite amazing, still today, with 27 large ammunition bunkers, FLAK bunkers around the whole fjord, several docks and giant nets across the fjord to catch low-flying planes and bombs.
@NorCalMX34 жыл бұрын
I have some distant relatives I stayed with recently in the town of Finnsnes Norway. One of them was an older gentleman who helped with the salvage and dismantling operation of the Tirpitz that took place in the 50s. He had some pretty unique relics he was able to keep for himself, including the spent casing of a 38 cm round. It was pretty surreal.
@KlapsefuerdenKopf4 жыл бұрын
Binging the older ones currently again, nice timing. Its still mindboggling how much was invested into sinking one ship, let it be a dangerous one with fairly limited options. But all the fleetpower gathered and bombers dispatched is pretty nuts. But since there was an aircraft thats filming the Dambusters it probably served more a morale purpose to sink it rather than a tactical one.
@townsville694 жыл бұрын
Awesome presentation. Clear and concise. Amazing how much of a beating this one ship could take. Where other's take so little to destroy.
@jeriksson76863 жыл бұрын
There still are some massive craters at Kåfjord where she was anchored.
@AlastairJamesOfficial4 жыл бұрын
My name is Alastair James Malcolm. I am a direct descendant of Alastair David Malcolm who served during operation source. Really cool to see this video. Had no idea that multiple raids occured
@zzrzx-ck5jo3 жыл бұрын
I live in tromsø and my great grandfather took part in the rescue operation to try and save those who was stuck inside the wreckage of Tirpiz after it sunk. Unfortunantly for those inside, the steel hull was to thick for their torches to burn thru. I've vissited the monument where it sank and seen how thick the hull was and trust me. Its thick!!
@PACstove Жыл бұрын
How and when did they get the bodies out? That's a job that gets worse the longer you wait and i can't imagine who had to go in there and do that?
@zzrzx-ck5jo Жыл бұрын
@@PACstove i just know that he took part in it. He passed away years ago and Ive just heard stories from my parents about it. So I dont know the exact details about it
@hansgruber7884 жыл бұрын
I’ve seen so many documentaries on this but it never gets old
@protectorh91673 жыл бұрын
My father was a armed guard member in the us navy on a liberty ship to Moermansk, he told me that when they heard the name Tirpitz they all shit in their pants so mysticall was that name among crew members , they were really afraid only by hearing it's name (my father served as a Dutchman in the U.S. navy) .
@cody47834 жыл бұрын
Absolutely incredible. I had read about the time gap between the loss of the Bismark and the final fate of its sister ship. But I had no idea it was nearly such an active and aggressive onslaught to finally lay the beast of a ship to rest. The step up from 1600lb munitions to a mind boggling 12k lb bomb just goes to show how tough it was and how badly it was deemed it needed to be sunk. Great presentation. Made the timeline easy to follow and really grasp the efforts put forth to counter such an imposing threat.
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@Izmael13104 жыл бұрын
Kudos to Tirpitz to be able withstand so many attacks for such a long time.
@stevearno1003 жыл бұрын
not really it was stupid - it was stupid that the Germans knew how much of threat the ship was to convoys ( it would never have engaged the British " HOME" fleet ) The Germans never protected it with air-cover - 50 - 100 fighters stationed would have protected it at first - then adding more if needed . Could they spare them ? probably not but they lost a massive tactical option losing their FLEET - even though small by UK, American ,Japanese standards ..... they were well made and very very accurate The STAKE was starving Russia of resources - and to do that was to raid the convoys - with Uboats and a small fleet with fighter cover . breaking Russia would have been very good for Germany - they just needed to take the major cites - and then starve them into submission .. Hitler bit off more than he could chew invading Russia - and not having a navy fleet of size was a mistake
@daralcampbell21712 жыл бұрын
@@stevearno100 the mistake was when Hitler was born and when he declared war on Poland
@stevearno1002 жыл бұрын
@@daralcampbell2171 lol ....the Hitler not being born . He was though The trouble lays with "Power" = global dominance . The British Empire was falling apart this created instability within the world . Every moment in time there has seen dominance from the beginning of raping and pillaging another village for elevation. The first world War was Germany's first go to supersede the British empire but it failed . The 2nd World War was the next go . it may well have happened without Hitler, as the emotion of the population would have been still there to capitalise on . But you could be right , what we could have got without Hitler vs the emotion that facilitates expansionist ideas could have been more colonialism = a more friendly expansionist dream . The world tires of expansion of power- for centuries the British empire was sowing its own demise via trying to stop power grabs from emerging empires . Alot of countries it invaded was purely so other empires couldn't have them . I.could.add.a.mountain to the above,.its very complex vs time.. What should be worrying about daral .though .. is what is going to hqppen when America loses.ita grip.and all.thw allies of the most dominant force ( Canada and UK to name.but 2 ) are sucked it with it and we will be . It's all.pretty close right NOW - with Ukraine a EU expansion dream failed by Russia. The EU is a creation of a.power base . Emerging powers China, India etc etc If it does kick off over Ukraine ( very unlikely due to.its nature- the west will let Russia take.ukraine) ...will Russia been seen by history as the HITLER ? But what about the EU power grab less.than a decade before.it that created russias need
@petermallia5583 жыл бұрын
I really enjoyed watching thus video, it was so well made, well narrated and we'll edited, and properly thought through. Very good Production, very professional, an altogether Decent shirt film about a crazy time throughout the whole of WWII, the protection of the Atlantic and Arctic convoys to the Baltic countries and Russia.
@Armadauzbekistan4 жыл бұрын
God I love these videos, more please, just enjoying them so much
@megapangolin10932 ай бұрын
Fascinating and excellent account and the best demo of what actually happened there. I thoroughly enjoyed every moment of this fabulous video. You can forget the BBC, this is so well produced and narrated I much prefer to watch this channel for my history. Yes it was definitely worth it, to prove to the Germans that they could not succeed. They gave up when they saw what was happening.
@Flamuu4 жыл бұрын
What a fantastic channel, can't wait to see you blow up and produce more content!
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Very kind, thanks. More coming! I'm releasing a shorter Gary Powers video shortly. My next large video will be Operation Linebacker II
@elwhastrummer4 жыл бұрын
Good grief....they threw so much at that ship. Can't imagine how much that cost. Such tenacity!!
@misiclover16583 жыл бұрын
The cost was minimal compared to the ship's total cost,.
@yuchongliu77884 жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video from you
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@markdettrey80383 жыл бұрын
All torpedoes missed seems to be an ongoing theme in many of these awesome videos.
@justsomeguywithasurprisede40594 жыл бұрын
"If you can't destroy them..." *_"SMOKE THEM!"_*
@soppdrake4 жыл бұрын
Great video! Patrick Bishop's book describes these events and others -- showing Churchill's obsession to knock out this battleship.
@NSO15054 жыл бұрын
Another wonderful video: always looking forward to these.
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for Patreoning!
@daniellucas14943 жыл бұрын
Always well done
@jimboisvert57814 жыл бұрын
Excellent video! I never realized the amount of resources and time dedicated to sinking her.
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@kebman3 жыл бұрын
My grandfather and uncles heard the bombs go off all the way to Senja, where our farmstead is. It is said that on the day she sank, there was a day of sorrow in the nearby city Tromsø, because so many girls there had gotten engaged with German sailors who died in the attack.
@seno55303 жыл бұрын
There was more sorrow to come for them, even after the war.
@solanine64524 жыл бұрын
Finally found a naval animation channel as goos in quality as Montemayor!
@hantykje30054 жыл бұрын
My late grandmother told me about the sinking of the Tirpitz in November 1944 near hear then home in the vicinity of Tromsø, Norway.
@jetsandthebombers4 жыл бұрын
What a great series of video the creators have done. Good job. Cheers from Canada
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them! Also - *creator* :)
@MTG7764 жыл бұрын
What a great video... Thoroughly enjoyed that...
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Thank you kindly!
@JoeOvercoat4 жыл бұрын
Amusing to see the agitprop epoch times advertising on this channel. Our nation’s enemies at work, paying the way for these great videos.Now that’s a truly global economy. ;)
@Hootkins.4 жыл бұрын
I'm guessing you're Chinese since China is the only country that has labeled Epoch Times as an enemy of the state.
@Sophocles133 жыл бұрын
Damnit there was no reason for over 900 men to go down with that ship. He should have gotten the crew off :(
@qball1of13 жыл бұрын
Germany had some poor leadership, much of it in their navy...this example just proves it again.
@knightlife984 жыл бұрын
Bruh, your videos are absolutely fantastic! Thank you!!!
@mEmEzMaN...3 жыл бұрын
RAF when they realise that the 1600lb and 500lb aren't working We're gonna need a bigger bomb
@masterfletcher6163 жыл бұрын
It’s the fact they went from 1500 to 12000 for me
@thatguyonyoutubemk27463 жыл бұрын
Funny thing is, by the end of the war, the 12000lb tallboy wasn't the biggest bomb in the British arsenal 😂 The British would go on to make what I have been told is the biggest non nuclear explosive of the war known as the "Grand slam" which was a 22000 pound bomb
@masterfletcher6163 жыл бұрын
@@thatguyonyoutubemk2746 if I’m correct I’m sure that’s the bomb that creates an earthquake when exploded due to the force?
@thatguyonyoutubemk27463 жыл бұрын
@@masterfletcher616 yeah, the 12000lb tallboy that sunk Tirpitz was one of those 'earthquake bombs' aswell, the grand slam was basically just an upscale on the tallboy by an entire 10000 lb
@thatguyonyoutubemk27463 жыл бұрын
@@masterfletcher616 actually, I missed a part of what you said. It's not called an earthquake bomb because of the force, it's called an earthquake bomb because of how it uses the force. An earthquake bomb was designed to be dropped near a target and its weight would ensure that it would end up underground. It wouldn't explode immediately, they were usually on a timer (if I remember rightly that timer was something like 30 mins). Since it had buried itself underground the immense force created by the bomb would create a small cavern which would undermine the foundations of a building or shake them apart through the shockwave, hence "Earthquake"
@paulbeades66813 жыл бұрын
Wow. What a story. What an effort to sink that ship. Crazy. Thank You.
@TheOperationsRoom3 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@SGTRIP-dh7fz4 жыл бұрын
Another well done video!
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Thanks again!
@maxschmiemann66234 жыл бұрын
Great channel! Excellent work in putting these together.
@noelnewlon4 жыл бұрын
Damn! That ship was one tough customer to take out.
@GLfocus22 жыл бұрын
Thank you for excellent research, storytelling, and production quality. You do excellent work again and again.
@stephank91724 жыл бұрын
great video, and good context
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@agoogleuser43543 жыл бұрын
Your videos are so cool! Thank you so much. I've watched several of your WWII and Desert Storm videos.
@crystallineentity4 жыл бұрын
Great video man thank you
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it
@104paul4 жыл бұрын
Fascinating thank you. Just checked satellite maps out to see if I could find it. And yes looks like a steal structure just off the shore line but not a full ship. With bomb craters under water and on land. Fantastic 👍🏼
@cameron1975williams4 жыл бұрын
What a huge amount of resources sent against one ship. Not sure it was worth it to keep one battleship at bay. The two minisubs were almost as effective as the combined air attacks.
@leominder45144 жыл бұрын
Tirpitz exists... Churchill: Use every man and machine to destroy that ship!!!
@patavinity12624 жыл бұрын
You could replace 'Tirpitz' with 'Bismarck' and the formula would still work.
@goki65484 жыл бұрын
Haha very funny! Its so funny that i forgot to laugh! Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha Ha! 😐
@n3izhyped6224 жыл бұрын
Imagine how easily a drone guided missiles or a small amount of today aircrafts would've taken her souls , great content as per usual, interesting to see the formations and to see how many misses before they finally got a killshot , the 2 subs laying Maine was cool too see too
@diegoignacio60754 жыл бұрын
I love this channel so much
@reddragonrising074 жыл бұрын
Loving your work, keep it up 👍
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Thank you 🙌
@niceguy64402 жыл бұрын
Been binge watching your channel and 1) lovely work 2) it’s amazing how much of a running them “all the torpedoes miss” is
@tellthemborissentyou3 жыл бұрын
It was a very good use of an obsolete ship. Park it in a distant fjord and watch the Royal Navy go nuts with their obsession to destroy it.
@edwardenriquez11314 жыл бұрын
Great video, I enjoy watching your videos. Keep up the great work.
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, will do!
@Forestowo4 жыл бұрын
Thank You !
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
You're welcome!
@michaelthompson3423 жыл бұрын
As usual, an excellent presentation!
@u0aol14 жыл бұрын
Me again! I've been binging your videos and have decided I'm now a history professor, specialising in war battles. Thanks man, your awesome videos taught me well. 😁
@Littlebudda123214 жыл бұрын
Tremendous job! Thank you!
@saml76104 жыл бұрын
Just found your channel and I'm loving it! This is some good stuff, well researched and well presented. KZbin really did kill the History Channel...
@bald_15674 жыл бұрын
I have experienced some vids like this but you do the best job.
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Glad you like them!
@jasonshen76004 жыл бұрын
He is back
@justandy3334 жыл бұрын
Wow! that is an extraordinary amount of sorties and resources deployed, just to keep 1 ship in port. Even though the Turpitz saw very little combat, it did a fantastic job diverting resources away from other arenas. I always thought the 617 squadron were under strict orders to not release their tall boys unless they had a clear shot at the Turpitz. However 1 pilot disobeyed his orders and launched his bomb anyway through the smoke. And that one bomb scored a 'lucky' hit on the Turpitz, and then it was towed south for use as a gun emplacement. Thats the version of events I've read about.
@michaelpearshouse11004 жыл бұрын
Its job wasn't to 'divert', its job was to prowl the Atlantic and destroy convoy after convoy killing thousands of men and sinking millions of tons of supplies heading for Britain. We stopped that! Every time it poked its nose out - we hit it! It was never able to do the job for which it was intended.
@mencken84 жыл бұрын
This illustrates very well how inefficient WWII bombing was, except against large targets like cities.
@vexi45844 жыл бұрын
I would argue about the 22% hit rate of bombing raids against cities on Germany, plus a number of decent bombing raids the Americans and Japanese launched off their carriers on many Pacific Battles.
@DanielC__4 жыл бұрын
rico567 exactly! It was a pitiful success rate. So many crew just wasted
@edwardsnyder71414 жыл бұрын
I literally love everything you have done...but more infantry
@marvinthemartian95844 жыл бұрын
I love your channel. Here are some others thought you might like that could give you some inspiration. Montemayor has great videos on the attack on Pearl Harbor and the Battle of Savo Island. Then HistoryMarche made a great video about the SMS Emden from World War 1.
@JenSIE1034 жыл бұрын
Wow, that must have been a lot of work! Very well done!
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
It was!
@rolandfelice61984 жыл бұрын
Another splendid presentation of an essential operation. Congrats.
@TheOperationsRoom4 жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it!
@darrellborland1194 жыл бұрын
Thanks for a good video. Too bad, this many decades later, that so many young men died in that hull.
@Zooumberg4 жыл бұрын
My uncle went down with his ship on this route. I never met the man, I was born in 69. However my aunt, my dad's sister never got over it.
@mikesorek11423 жыл бұрын
I love your videos. Please keep up the good work. And hello from Detroit, Michigan, USA
@meloniejen84004 жыл бұрын
The Tirpitz is the story of my self confidence.
@michaelthompson3424 жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation!
@ws22284 жыл бұрын
One of the few channels I don't play at 1.25x speed.
@daniellucas14943 жыл бұрын
Excellent - as usual sir - well done. Please complete more - my students (seventh grade) really enjoy your episodes.
@rndmstrngr4684 жыл бұрын
I have a book called “Menace: The Life and Death of the Tirpitz”, by Ludovic Kennedy, and it goes into pretty good detail of her trials and tribulations, as well as stories of her crew and what they got up to with all their spare time. Definitely worth a read for any WW2 navy buff if you can find a copy.
@MrDaiseymay4 жыл бұрын
I REMEMBER HIM ON TV, PLUGGING IT
@quantumbox013 жыл бұрын
Describing how destructive the Tallboy bombs were, then mentioning that 34 of them were dropped at once, mind boggling! Imagine being on the Tirpitz knowing you're stationed inside the biggest target around, and there are 34 tallboys falling per attack. My trousers would be full.