The Hype Machine $7000 Pistol - TTI Pit Viper

[@conrad792]

I assumed it was a $5k gun with a $2k name. Turns out it's a $3k gun and a $4k name. Thanks for keeping it real!

[@1911syndicate]

Absolutely 🤙🏻

[@Fantasma781]

4k gun technically. It’s the staccato xs which is about 4500

[@RetSol61]

If I was a Trizillionaire I might buy one. Other than that, way too much hype for me.

[@willy4869]

Always had a feeling that you are really just buying a name with this gun. Thanks for shooting us straight. You guys rock.

[@1911syndicate]

🤙🏻

[@S1deshowRob]

The TTI Glock is a $2000 canik rival

[@NaNa-rb7ou]

The taran Glock combat mater is still a dressed up Glock for 4 times the price. I can get stock Glock slide cut, stippled, after market trigger and mag well and trijicon sro red dot installed for about $1800 and stilll save 200-300 bucks instead of getting the combat master without red dot

[@S1deshowRob]

@@forrestblade I haven’t heard about this, what’s the story?

[@COMMANDERHAWK22]

@@S1deshowRob long time ago he had an under aged emplyee name jade there was some questionable things going on maybe a bit creepy but abuser I wouldn't go that far .

[@Centipede_Solaire]

this has everything that makes for a great video from you all. The best cinematography hands down, 30+ min, and the fireside chat vibe you two bring. great way to start the weekend

[@1911syndicate]

Appreciate the kind words, glad you enjoyed it!

[@PistolsPlayground]

"Price is never the problem, it's the value I receive in exchange for the price." That statement is so true. Thanks for being honest about the fact that the gun isn't a good value for the money, unless you're buying it for collectability aspects.

[@heinrichstoltz1356]

Your production quality is just hands down some of the best (if not the best) of any firearm reviewers on the Web. To complement the quality of production, the quality of your review and honesty is also unmatched. The 1911Syndicate is the only channel to call the PitViper the hack it actually is. 👍🏻👌🏻

[@1911syndicate]

At least mine was. Maybe the others are amazing 🤷🏼‍♂️

[@Duda4711]

Agreed 100%! As an owner of several high end 2011s, I want to know who I call when something goes wrong. Atlas, Infinity, Nighthawk, and even Staccato all have great customer service. Who do I call when my Pit Viper extractor needs to be replaced?! John Wick?!

[@1911syndicate]

Haha

[@temetnosce17]

John Wick: "Yeah"

[@teabagg6217]

Im dead

[@Men-Of-Arms]

Staccat is core builder but finishes by TTI terms of aesthetic

[@ThisOldHelmet]

It’s funny because it’s true

[@HB-kp6rl]

That’s a churched up staccato for twice the price lol

[@botkill3635]

And it isnt any better than the Staccato XC IMO

[@S1deshowRob]

Never thought I’d say “save your money and just buy a staccato” but come on There’s no reason to buy this thing, it doesn’t even mount optics and the “fangs” seem like such a gimmick

[@michaell397]

And now that Staccato has fixed he issue with the thumb safety, (mine is superbly blended). The Grip safety is also well blended. I did have to desensitize it for my smaller hands as I do ride the thumb safety. An Atlas thumb will be next for it. ;

[@botkill3635]

@@michaell397 According to the Staccato rep when I did the Factory Tour they dont have any part of the Sand/Pit Viper build

[@juanh.8707]

This.

[@stevecline8666]

2 things, One that intro was totally bad ass! Secondly, wow! I am so glad to get your take on this. I loved the looks of the vipers, and in video, they appear to shoot amazing.... It's definitely very helpful to get that deeper look. Thanks for the honesty and attention to the details.

[@AAAlife556]

This is literally the only channel you can watch and actually get an honest review!!!! Keep it up fellas!!!! Love the honesty!!!

[@1911syndicate]

🤙🏻

[@Centipede_Solaire]

Have to comment again. I think a video where you two talk about how YOU would design a 1911 Syndicate gun would be an awesome video. Especially if you managed to cover a more "affordable" model and a model with no regard for price

[@1911syndicate]

That would be a blast of a project

[@louarthur7648]

This^^ you guys could do a multipart micro-series capturing the fundamental tenets/attributes the weapon "must" & why. The design process, selecting a gunsmith to build the prototype, how the design evolves as the prototype comes together, the acid test of putting the prototype into a performance/pressure testing regime, lessons learned, locate a pro comp shooter to run it in a competition, more lessons learned, final engineering revisions, final production of a small lot hold a competition and with the first prod unit as the top prize, raffle off or sell the remainder form the small lot.

[@DmitryUfaev]

Guys, do a collaboration with Infinity.

[@stevailo]

@@louarthur7648something along the lines of what InRange and Forgotten Weapons did at the time with the WWSD project

[@Jack-wp4eh]

Mayb even sit down with someone to sketch out a rough outline of looks and features for a budget gun, and no limits gun

[@TenguArmament]

Finally someone giving an actual in depth review with honest feedback towards this gun! Thank you

[@1911syndicate]

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[@taemeister9302]

99.99% of John Wick fans will say this is the best pistol in the world that's worth every penny. Not sure if they would say the same if this pistol cost $3499.99

[@user-jh1it8iq4z]

Awesome review guys, you just saved my bank account and me, from making a bad purchase. I came into some money and was shopping around. It came down to a Infinity and Sand Viper. I know all there is about Infinity but not Taran Tactical and yes I do come to this channel to not only get a honest review but a WELL INFORMED review from people who know more, obviously then I do about 2011s. Again I appreciate the video !

[@1911syndicate]

Infinity all day bro

[@uchis2k]

Your Integrity is Gold. Thank you!!

[@M0onM0nkey]

QC issues on a 7K gun should never be considered as an excuse...one bad apple ruins the batch. Will never touch a TT. Thank you 1911 for your honesty

[@stevieseasalt]

An awesome combination of content, information, and entertainment. The following message is not for the creators… This is for the Viewers. “We are all consumers so it’s easy for content creators and gun afficanados to make videos that appeal to our natural confirmation bias”. Meaning- We buy a gun and we want all of the videos to be positive. These guys aren’t afraid to call it how they see it. Thats admirable, that’s American, That’s freedom of speech and honesty at its finest. If you don’t understand and appreciate that then keep being a directionless consumer. 1911 Syndicate is the truth

[@davidchilders9472]

BRAVO! Thank you for a rational and realistic look at this pistol and the following it has.

[@UrbanTactic-mw7vg]

Disclaimer I don’t own the gun: The TTI Pit Viper and Sand Viper are collectible firearms that offer a moderate (being conservative) degree of performance, appeal, and value. There are collectibles at higher prices providing minimal value to no value in other industries.. I think TTI has gauged the price the market is willing to pay for JW collectibles effectively. Despite critical reviews, the market has demonstrated a sustained interest for JW, with the value remaining above $7k, if available. Spending any more than 10 minutes comparing and heavily scrutinizing a collectible that still offers performance to firearms designed solely for performance (staccato/atlas/infinity) value per dollar is a narrow review. In the automotive industry, vintage cars command higher prices not for their current performance but as collectibles, and I don’t understand why anyone would buy an old moderate performing car. But who cares what I don’t understand, the market gets it. The feedback on the gun was solid, but again parts of the review seemed narrow, almost assuming TTI released this firearm with similar intentions as companies like Atlas or Infinity. It was in a movie, oh and look, you can actually use it at the range and it will perform reasonably well (again conservative, likely performs a bit better than reasonably well). The market response confirms its collectible status. People love JW movies. First 5 min in your into was SPOT ON. It’s a collectible. I don’t own and probably won’t but I love firearms and if I was into JW best believe I’m buying this firearm that can reasonably perform if I take it to the range, has sex appeal, and was in a movie. I heard someone say the value will go down. Has the value ever gone down on JW pistols (serious question)?? This is borderline and investment.

[@abowens777]

The mag not dropping free is most likely due to a cheap grip module. When injection molding grip modules like that, there is a shrink rate that happens when the polymer cools that has to be accounted for when creating and sizing the molds. If they don’t get the shrink rate right when creating the molds, you get slightly undersized grip modules.

[@Death.Co.]

I worked in the quality lab of a plastic injection molding plant and I can tell you that for something like that plastic grip module to be of consistent quality there would have to be a "magazine shaped " fixture to slide into the grip while it is cooling, even if it had coolant running through the mold before it was ejected from the machine.

[@robbysnipes9568]

Wow not a 2011 guy but it was always my perception these guns were up there with the big dogs based on the hype. Good looking out.

[@OperatorClassified]

Major props! Slick Broll and a crisp edit. Your content and production value is what all of us strive for.

[@ChristianFarrington]

Crispy thanks you!

[@lukaspatty6431]

I worked for STI/Staccato during John Wick3 and WE made all the OG CombatMaster pistols and the Frame is marked with STI symbol and the slide was marked TTI

[@headshot69able]

So who did the JW4 CM?

[@9mmslinger929]

@@headshot69ableTaran will not tell anyone. But it’s not staccato. Staccato just re-released their version in a box set

[@SSLLaw]

He has a bunch of in house and contract gunsmiths building for him

[@1911syndicate]

Right I really don’t believe staccato is making this one

[@lukaspatty6431]

no theyre not making the new one i know too many people there they would have told me@@1911syndicate

[@danielgarland9391]

I've always felt like TTI ordered these guns from staccato, had his gunsmith work the trigger and sent the barrel out for coating MAYBE milled the slide cut outs. More hype than value for that price 100% agreed About the thumb safety issue that you quoted, Adam from Atlas has mentioned in videos before that safety is designed to be ridden for recoil management. Might not be everyones cup of tea

[@NotYourFriendPal]

Realest gun review I’ve seen in a while. Great job fellas. Shows you how much gun companies have co-opted most other YT channels.

[@cw7legionofpewrights596]

Glad you guys willing to call it out. Yes it looks good & Hollywood that’s it.

[@juanh.8707]

You’re not a hater and this firearm is high flown for no reason. Great job guys.

[@odacious2571]

Really love the honest content fellas!

[@Chrisblau]

Do our best to be honest and truthful 👊🏼

[@molonl4be]

I recognize that alley way.....Next to Gallensons gun shop. Cool video again.....thanks.

[@austindowns8259]

I have worked on one of Tarans sand vipers. Pretty sure optimum manufacturing is making his slides. There is little to no hand fitting and you can really tell from the extractor fit along with the beaver tail engagement, slide to frame, and the sear springs are stock very little polishing or relieving and same with sear. The issue you had is hammer following into the halfcock. This is likely from how the after travel on the trigger itself was setup which can very from Mags believe it or not. It should be adjusted with a mag in the gun.

[@jobturkey7418]

I loved the John wick series lol. I watch it on a plane with no volume and I don’t miss a thing lol

[@MexicanNinja82]

My pit viper had the same fit and finish issues, I sent mine back for a full refund. TTI gave me a full refund without any problems. This all happened back in May, I contemplated making a video but I literally shipped it back the next day. Thanks for making this video, this needed to be put out in the wild.

[@zer-kz8mb]

I just ordered one and now I’m am second guessing the purchase.

[@Badwolf2012-o1i]

I love these long videos and the honesty. Keep them coming.

[@Chrisblau]

Jake and Crispy are nailing it 👊🏼

[@travislogan6973]

Thank you so much for telling us how you feel. Tell it like it is! That’s why I have subscribed! The best of videos ever!

[@derrickvarnadore1682]

Your honesty is honorable. As a man who’s died… there’s no time for bullshit. I thank you. Honestly

[@jasonkav]

Staccato base Taran dressings paying for logos, and John Wick lore…if that’s your thing more power

[@justinm.791]

For $7K I'd have a 2019 Chambers Custom WMG a BUNCH of both magazines and ammo.

[@awokeone7997]

Or you can get the Erebus, a real race gun

[@offshoresavage6608]

Shhh. Don’t let him know one of the best 2011 pattern guns sold has a polymer grip too.

[@wisco_guy]

Great, honest review! Not only has The Devil’s Child improved his shooting skills, but also his acting, too. 👏

[@1911syndicate]

Thank you very much

[@Chrisblau]

Right? Dude is stepping it up lately

[@louarthur7648]

Excellent review and commentary. Wonder how TTI will respond, if at all. I have never been into the Glam gun craze with colored parts, wild slide cuts, and all the other BS that draws your eye. I guess for the movies it makes sense but IMHO if the customization is not purely functional in a positive sense, then there is no practical operational value. I fully agree on your final assessment, save yer bucks and buy a Nighthawk Custom. I bought a NH T3 many years ago and it is hands down the finest 1911 I have ever fired. The trigger is sublime in operation and the fit and finish of the weapon is impeccable. Keep up the great work fellas.

[@TheAmerican1963]

Let start by saying if a man doesn't like 1911's, we can't be friends. I was pissed off awhile back when you made fun of people/guns that were of the 'budget" variety and they were solid weapons at their price point. For example, Tisas, believe it or not, makes all sorts of 1911's that are unbelievably good pistols. Having said that, I owe you a very large apology after seeing this video. Being "fair" is tough on KZbin. Most that revue guns are on the "take" at some level. You know that as most of us do. I am sorry I lumped you in with those folks. That was a "FTF" on my part. You made a fan out of me and I want to thank you for what you do. You are honest AND fair. Thank you for that. 🙂

[@1911syndicate]

Cheers mate

[@tristanbrown4888]

Y’all’s production value is incredible

[@Gothic1Actual]

Thanks for the honest review. You guys rock! I'll stick with my SA TRP.

[@Chrisblau]

Trp is for sure a better option.

[@blaeshoflen8663]

The dynamic between you two is just precious!

[@1911syndicate]

Lol

[@djinferno975]

Also to be far the TTI sand viper won two USPCA competitions. And the pit viper is meant to be used in the Iron sights classification where the sand viper is used for open competition. It’s a modified 2011 for competition/ collection. And yes there is a price increase for being featured in a successful movie

[@t3h8ar0n]

Competition is much more about the shooter than whatever X gun they are using.

[@dobster5819]

Your reviews are very impressive, many thanks.

[@SSLLaw]

Hell yes. Someone finally calling bullshit on the Taran - Wick hype machine. Should not be a surprise that the guy who tapes over his charlies and calls them alphas would cut corners on both design and manufacturing and sell at a silly inflated price to the simps. We need more reviews like this that critically examine the engineering behind the marketing.

[@1911syndicate]

Hey I’m just here to shoot the guns and talk about it

[@crazylarryjr]

I completely agree with you, I love the JW franchise and if I ever win the lottery, I'll own every JW gun. But you are right, it's a premade (Mass produced and assembled) gun with a huge markup

[@BrianKern2121]

Tonight on 1911 Syndicate: Jake is 75% more Jeremy Clarkson in the intro and 25% John Wick from pintress , the gentrified rubber targets gets brutalized by Taran's expensive creation, and Chris goes back in time when he was a seedy alley gun salesyeti.....

[@life_of_riley88]

And on that bombshell. . .

[@pjbiggleswerth8903]

BACK TO THE STUDIO!!!

[@1911syndicate]

Freakin nailed it

[@handroids1981]

Mine's better!

[@01Sassoon]

Love your honesty !! Came here after your review of Mandy, and I have to say I’d take Mandy over the TPV any day of the week.

[@tincup850]

I am glad I did my research before delving into the pit viper before my infinity. This video proves my purchase thankfully 😂…..

[@TheLifeofRon]

And we love Calvin 🙌🏼

[@krihanek117]

I have a John Wick 2 built on a Glock 35. You are absolutely correct that it is poor value. I love this gun and don't regret buying one and waiting a year to get it.

[@GoodyK]

the Gen2 that you have is now build by Staccato

[@mageman483]

My opinion, but.. I am happy to see y'all call out that its garbage. Throw shade on people who gave it a bit too good of a review. There needs to be more of this in our community, calling out trash regardless of who is behind it. There are far too many that get paid to review it even if its junk and sing how amazing it is. Always be honest and never become shills please!

[@1911syndicate]

That said, I have never seen the actual guns that were reviewed elsewhere. They may be great guns. I have a sample size of 1

[@GearZenChannel]

Now it's $7500.

[@roguemodel]

My gun club brought this gun in and we all had a chance to fire and discuss. A fine shooting gun, but people picked up on the grip and safety. $7000.00? This gun will fall from grace as time goes on, like the Luago Alien. I can go to Hayes Custom and build a killer 2011 for $4000 to whatever price I want. A custom milled, hand fitted, best components, and finish with a host of cosmetic choices. Plus, the Hayes family are awesome and the nicest people.

[@Braddahk]

Great review!! Saved me $$$$🤙

[@Sleepy4life]

No single firearm is worth 7k. The value worth return on that is massively upside down. Hype is spot on.

[@oceaser6977]

I have a Bul Armory SAS Tac II w/ an optic that cost me 2K I have huge buyers remorse despite knowing I saved about 1K over a similarly optioned Staccato It’s my fav gun and I live shooting it but 2K🤦🏾 I can’t imagine paying 7K for a pistol

[@michaell397]

An emotional response but not a legitimate one. There are many firearms worth many hundreds of thousands of Dollars. Some Millions. Fine Purdy and Holland and Holland Double Rifles for instance made for Royalty and are the envy or any collector of fine guns and art. If you own one of many of these fine firearms', you can command an extravagant amount and have huge profit. As will the buyer in just a few years. Same with very high end Custom Knives. For the most collectable of them, the return is much higher than just about any investment you could possibly make and be guaranteed a very Health proffit. Are these worth it in you mind. Nope. Are they worth it financially, H*ll Yes! (Is a vintage rolex worth than a brand spanking new Timex). If and only if you understand the market value and money. What sucks in this instance is the inflated price due to the item being a movie fan must have. is it well made, Nope. Desirable to the movie buff, yep in many cases. There are movie props sold every day at high end auctions that bring huge amounts of money. All due to provenance. It is what it is. In this case, it is only a copy of a prop, but apparently authorised. Not something I would spend , money on, but whether it is of superb quality matters not in the least to this type of collector. Only the Movie and hype it generates sets the market. KnifeMaker.

[@nvhs1]

I've never been a fan of exclusive guns but I'd buy yours if there was a collaboration project

[@1911syndicate]

One day we shall. Not until it’s the right time where we’ve got a good idea

[@jamescentersmith9323]

I love the TTI pit viper, but I do think that it’s only worth half the price that it is currently costing to purchase right now. Even though I’ll probably end up paying to get it one day anyways.

[@rogersreview]

That cigar Chris is puffing on is probably a 7x50 Churchill that he makes look like a cigarillo.

[@VectorW8015]

I appreciate the honesty. Thanks guys.

[@notyoaveragejosay1577]

I'm glad I have the sand viper because it seems to be missing all of the pitfalls of the pit viper (no pun intended)

[@filmingNgaming]

Before JW4 dropped this pistol you could get for low $4k direct from TTI

[@R0ckGT390]

Thank you for a true review!

[@imstuner]

I agree with the metal grip opinion. My MPA DS9 is 2500 and comes with aluminum grip.

[@themaharaniscloset]

The main difference is that we can now use our pace again. For the last 2 yearss we've been pressing so high up the pitch that it kept the opposition pinned back and there was no space to make any runs behind the defence. This way we force the opposition to come for out for the ball, which leaves so much space to make runs in behind.

[@mikediesel2991]

Great and honest review! I had read on one of the forums that Taran had bought an old patent/design from STI to make the Pit/Sand Vipers (my guess the DVC-P) This was supposedly from a friend of someone currently employed at TTI. Since STI is no more and became Staccato, I would not be surprised if Staccato is supplying the comped barrel, slide and frame to Taran and he has his gunsmith machine all the fancy slide work and drop in a bunch of internals from the top tier brands. That’s my take at least

[@michaell397]

Sounds reasonable but if you can find a close up of the Sand Viery, it clearly says Staccato 2011 on the frame! KnifeMaker

[@S1deshowRob]

Good on you guys for not being afraid to slaughter a sacred cow. Always thought these things seemed obscenely priced, even for a custom 2011

[@00in4sir6]

Thanks fellas for the review and your honest opinions. It’s much appreciated that you call it like you see it. Been running a Staccato P for a few years now and was curious about TTI pistols.

[@BAD-MF]

Great and honest review calling out the scammers. Stay true. A lot of people are out there to take advantage of the uninformed

[@pyroromancer]

the TTI licensed airsoft versions have sold in the 10,000's and theyre actually great value as far as airsoft tiers and performance, build and materials quality goes.

[@victoryhasdefeatedyou6453]

Chris has great taste in cigars the Neanderthal is 🔥🔥

[@Chrisblau]

You know it dude 👊🏼👊🏼

[@danielschmitt7427]

Love the top gear throwback

[@HeebeeGenie]

I would never have bought one to begin with, but this is a great video that validates exactly what i was assuming. Anything with TTI just seems like they're trying to rob you.

[@brighthought11]

Bul Armory for the average joe, Staccato for the person that can save up a bit more, INFINITY for the dream gun 6-7k worth.. shot my brothers Atlas Athena, it felt in a whole different league than my C2 or anything else for that matter, but it did not shoot like a 5-6k gun over a 2-3k gun imho.

[@michaell397]

As price goes up on custom guns, the return in refinement is a lower %. The way it is in any mechanical project. guns, Race Engines, you name it. it is game of diminishing returns. But it is legitimate. No owner of an INfinity or Atlas would argue the point. KnifeMaker

[@fattigla]

It is a little strange TTI doesn't tell you who makes the pistols. You would think that would be a selling point they would want to brag about. The fact that some one won a shooting competition with it really doesn't do much for me. World class competitors can probably kick ass with a Glock 34 too. Also, I really appreciate how you went into detail on what you saw wrong with the pistol. That grip fitment looks like it would hurt my hands after a shooting session. And I have calloused up farmer's hands.

[@Dentless]

It’s a staccato. Staccato does limited release “John wick” gun packages for like 10k-20k for 2 guns… randomly and dipsticks suck them up.

[@hks956]

World class competitors "DO" kick ass with a Glock 34

[@fattigla]

@@hks956 I thought so, I just don't really follow what competitors are using. Thanks for your input!

[@texasranger24]

Caniks whole claim to fame in competition circles is that they bought some great shooters for their team and they were able to win with a Canik. Buy a Canik and training ammo for the remaining like $6000+ and you too might win a competition.

[@jordonschultz1325]

@@Dentlessthey did that once and might have made those, but the majority of them are made by someone else. Unfortunately I don’t know who as I didn’t know them when it was told to me or I might have remembered. Hell Staccato (at the time, STI) only made the first batch or so of the Combat Master. Eventually the rest of those were made elsewhere also.

[@PnP-td1mt]

Whole lot of people harp on “tolerance” yet don’t understand that “tolerances” are called out on ALL mechanical drawings. Quality control exists to ensure the machines parts are made within those tolerances. A real problem exists if parts for a gun are being made with prints that don’t call out tolerances.

[@jeremiahjohnson2784]

Its 7k MSRP. At time of writing, pushing 10k. When should the consumer expect some quality assurance?

[@Uncleprepper1]

Thank you guys for this honest review.

[@DavidLee-xb4tj]

The co host seems to be more like a sidekick in this video just puffing a cigar and adding “yup” “yeah” “right” lol

[@transmissionman9377]

FINALLY someone that tell the truth,👏 you guys kick ass.

[@czjunky2045]

Love the review. Brutally honest

[@ronaldebrownjr5622]

Great fun!!! As always!!

[@nicholasdangelo8174]

You don’t want us making you a pistol… 😂 I can say that was a real review. That really took apart the ridiculous price tag and why it’s just not worth 7k. Thanks as always gents.

[@1911syndicate]

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[@waynemears1870]

I agree 100%.....it's a good looking gun with big movie/TTI behind it which turns it into cash grab nd for a better fit & finish gun for 7k I would definitely go the route of handmade nd get your true money's worth........

[@charleshopkins2571]

I believe its Staccato building these. They re- released a limited edition on the JW3 2011's through Staccato for $20,000 for 2 Combat Master 2011's. One being an Island barrel pistol. So I kinda connected the dots when I seen that. If I'm going to spend that kinda coin on a pistol. Im buying an Atlas or an Infinity. I own 2 Staccato's, an XC and a P. That equal the price of this one pistol. I will stick with that.

[@jvz1448]

Not anymore

[@SleepyNine]

@@jvz1448why is that?

[@jvz1448]

@@SleepyNineNot sure the reason but they made the previous Taran versions. The new manufacture is a mystery

[@davidgaines8607]

I'd laugh my ass off if it was Tisas or Girsan or some other clone company.

[@1911syndicate]

Honestly I’ve got no clue. I only know that I haven’t figured it out yet

[@ericpewpew_rn5294]

I really appreciate your honest reviews! It’s a great gun for half the cost but, at 7K no thanks. It seams like TTI is ridding the coattails of the John Wick movies to push over priced guns.

[@2A-J.MAY08]

I like this guy finally someone who’s not afraid to let there nuts hang in the KZbin gun review or thoughts/ facts.Would not take 2,500 to make no damn handgun if ur just talking materials. And yeah mr Tarzan charges way to much for his John wick fleshlight.

[@JDM_eastcoast]

Saw this pit viper at the gun shop and though I was super intrigued to buy it...but then remember your review...I decided to save money and wait for atlas oneday or get more other guns...thanks guys

[@1911syndicate]

🤙🏻

[@Johnblaze678]

Before I finish watching this video I'm going to put my best guess in. I was surprisingly looking for information on who makes the TTI guns less than the week ago, and found nothing. I've held a few TTI pistols in my local gun store, including the sand viper, and I can't dismiss the fact that they are eerily reminiscent of staccato 2011s.

[@cl790305]

Looks to me, Staccato builds them too..... However he states Staccato is far better

[@1911syndicate]

🤷🏼‍♂️

[@michaell397]

Yep, I just picked up a Staccato C-2 as the Les Baer was getting a little heavy. LOL! Only complaint on the C-2 is the drop in fire control group. No excuse for the hammer hooks and sear nose not to be properly dressed. The hammer hooks still had all the DLC finish on them. I feel a little scammed. OK, more than a little scammed. I called customer service and was told they were hand fit. Seems he didn't know the difference between dropped in by hand, (Not a robot) and actual hand fitting. Pitiful! KnifeMaker

[@victoryhasdefeatedyou6453]

Jake woke up and chose violence 😂😂

[@1911syndicate]

Lol. I mean….

[@hopewilliams6705]

Love the new intro's !

[@1911syndicate]

Thank ya!

[@ZachAttack2U]

Love the content, and I can't believe you don't have more subs! Very high quality content... Unlike the Pitt Viper. BTW, I laughed hard @14:47 🤣👍

[@Bryan-1980]

Aren’t they just a custom staccato xc? Because those literally cost less than 1500 bucks to make.

[@PeterTolosa-b9e]

I subcontracted for an engineer and we were given 3 Staccatos. All of our stations had to be kept dust free, solid granite slabs, top of the line micrometers & calipers and custom scales. They were all wildly asymmetrical. Awful machining, and terrible balance. If you really want a nice 1911, save money and buy a Dan Wesson. They're as close to perfect as you can get for less than $2500. All the new boutique 1911s & 2011s are a scam. Stick with Wilson or Wesson.

[@Driven-Productions]

Agree on $3,500, at $7k it’s insane. Having said that, just buy a Staccato P in steel for $2.5k and call it a day.

[@WhiskeySharpShooter]

Regarding the grip safety and the checkered mag release, the version you have in the video is the second version of the grip module. I know because i sent TTI an email because the second gen grip doesn’t have the extended checkered mag release (which is the one i have🙄) and they told me they changed them halfway in the run because they ran out of the gen 1 grips. The checkering on the grip is also different. The first gen grip is flush with the grip safety. That was disappointing to say the least. I asked if i could change to the first gen grips and they didn’t have any because they ran out. You can spot the first gen grip because it has 2 screws on the grip vs one screw on the 2nd gen. 😡 TTI’s response: Hello, It looks like you've got the latest batch of our Pit Vipers. Due to supply and demand, we have had to switch to the Gen 2 Grips which are not compatible with the extended magazine release and black trigger.

[@awokeone7997]

You should of got your money back or at least a discount.

[@1911syndicate]

Whoa!!! That’s so crazy. Wild

[@1NC4stroker]

That gun is like a local Hibachi steak dinner..... $1 worth of steak....and $15 worth of rice. Y'all are great and funny AF!

[@NickLjungberg]

Great review guys, not selling your souls like a lot of “ gun tubers “ that always say everything they review is the best thing happen sense sliced bread ,,, Taran products is overhyped and over priced in general compare to top tier manufacturers that charge less but have 100% better quality and products Stay strong

[@stephanox758]

Buddy wants exclusive products, but also doesn’t want it to have an exclusive price tag.

[@1911syndicate]

Bro have you looked through our channel? We’re not strangers to exclusive products

[@barnacanbull]

Great job on this video, Crispy!!!! Another banger by 1911 Syndicate as usual.💪🏼 The balls on you guys, telling it like it is instead of being fake like most Guntubers are. Take my 💰for that 1911 Syndicate pistol!!!

[@1911syndicate]

Haha one day hopefully

[@stevailo]

Give that probably nothing on this gun is hand fit, my guess about the problem you had iPhone footage of is that to get the trigger so light, they brought it on the verge of hammer follow, and that’s what you got. Thanks a lot for the great video and production quality. Bad reviews are never fun, but sometimes they’re needed, and remind us viewers that some channels are worth trusting more than others