The i5 6500 in 2022, and a disappointing upgrade to a weird prebuilt PC

[@QuiteLunacy]

Hey the 6500! It was the first CPU I bought with my own hard earned money. Was a nice little upgrade from my i5 2400. Looking forward to this one.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Great upgrade :)

[@XJustSomerandomGuyX]

Oh hey im currently using the i5 2400 with a GTX 1050TI and 8gb ddr3 and i cant really complain much. The most intensive game i ever played was Red Dead Redemption 2 in 1080p with everything on low except the textures which i set to high. The benchmark said 30-50 fps and i had so much fun playing it. I feel if i got a high end system i would have a heart attack or something when playing latest titles over 60 fps on high lol.

[@BeatBall]

Please let me know if it's worth it! i'm using i5 2400 currently and thinking of upgrading to i7 3rd gen probably in the future

[@stephenb9510]

@@BeatBall i7 4790k would be much better

[@dyslectische]

@@XJustSomerandomGuyX here still 2 systeem wat run . 1x systeem use a e3-1245 (i7 2600) 1x systeem with a i7 2600k One syteem use a nvidia gtx1050ti the other use a nvidia 750ti ( have a amd r9380x 4Gb but the fan is broken need to be repair) Both systeem play easy online games what are play for free . Old but still working so wy replace ? So long the gpu is the Botlek the cpu will not run 100%

[@H4X0R_666]

I used this CPU for my first gaming PC build, nice to see you making a video about it, I upgraded to an i5-8600k @5Ghz since then.

[@25MHzisbest]

This is what happens when NVIDIA don't sample you with a 4090, despite having almost half a million subscribers!

[@takehirolol5962]

Like, what CPU is good enough for the 4090? There are trolls that pair it with a i7 4790k...

[@joemarais7683]

@Zygosepalum you’re not wrong but they did sample a 3080ti and/or 3090ti. But maybe they didn’t this time cause slapping a 4090 into an Athlon 3000g system would be too crazy.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Super high end stuff doesn’t interest me really. You know it’s going to be good.

[@25MHzisbest]

@@RandomGaminginHD Never been a better time to pull the silly size coolers off and water block high end GPU's. Tame the beast and size all at the same time!

[@25MHzisbest]

@@takehirolol5962 5800x3d is a struggle at 1440p looking at some games. I'd think Zen 4 vcache (CES 2023) will be the only CPU for a true high end experience!

[@capsulate8642]

When I was using an Optiplex before building my own system, I sold its 6700 and bought a 6500T to recoup around half the cost of that entire $200 Dell. I couldn't tell any difference in performance in daily use and the drop down to 30W was nice. Sold that 6500T for another $80 back. Good days during the CPU scalpocalypse.

[@tabernaclejones6115]

Lol the 6400t was inside the first hp I used that got me back into pc gaming after being out of it since 2008. When pubg came out , that 6400t reallllyyyy started to lag behind even the regular i5 6400. The t variant is low voltage so much weaker. I eventually upgraded to a i3 8350k that I overclocked as much as I could. That i3 was miles faster than the low voltage i5. But 8th Gen is when core count doubled. Eventually got a 9600k, than a 9700k than I sold the whole system and now have a 5800x. I gotta say being able to go on Firefox and listen to music while gaming is great. Could never do that with the Intel cpu I used bc the lower core count you'd see a drop in fps.

[@Zugschreiber]

i got the i7 6700K in my current System, still works like a charm. planning a long time to upgrade it, but well a lot happened :D the last Years greetings from Germany, i love your Channel

[@theanglerfish]

😂

[@Celia97799]

This was my 1st desktop CPU when I made the jump from Laptop gaming. Paired it with a 1060 6gb when it came out. Combo served me well for a while!

[@AstralBraixen]

I'm still using a i5 6600 and going strong, as well as a 1060 6gb but I also don't play triple a games pretty much at all. I even upped to from 1080p@60hz to a 3440x1440@144hz monitor and I still get 60fps on a lot of games I play and 144 on older games

[@aboveaveragebayleaf9216]

@@AstralBraixen it is very important for people to realize that they don't need to play only new AAA titles. Magic of pc is the backlog of amazing older games with with active servers. Tf2, or L4D2 are great examples.

[@aboveaveragebayleaf9216]

@@AstralBraixen I have a 3070ti and do play some AAA games, but I'd be lying if I said it was even 15 percent of what I do. 90% of the time I'm playing 10+ year old games.

[@AstralBraixen]

@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 Yeah that fact and the sheer amount of cool things you can do and learn with computers is why I got into PC gaming and kinda almost fully left console gaming. It's so nice to have one device that I can update _when I want_ and use _how I want_ without installing homebrew.

[@Eulogy1613]

@@aboveaveragebayleaf9216 yes tf2 best

[@thomascallaghan6444]

Had one of these back in 2016, just before Kaby Lake came out. I've been out of the loop with PC hardware that long that I honestly thought that this would have still been fine. It's certainly strange.

[@GerardinhoLP]

A 4c/8t chip is the minimum nowadays I think. A 7700k would still work (I used a Ryzen 3 3100 until recently and only got 100% use + sparse stutter in Spider-Man. Even Cyberpunk at launch ran fine)

[@RuffsTV]

Reminds me of why I upgraded my 6600k rig to a 6700k. The hyper threading helped a lot but in the end it was a bottleneck (even for my gtx1080) Moving on to a Ryzen 5600x was a huge improvement.

[@roibeard94]

I set out to build two budget gaming PCs for under $500, total. I bought two SFF HP office PCs a few months back with this exact CPU, added an extra stick of RAM (2x8 total each), a 256gb SATA SSD (Samsung 850 or 860?), a Saphire low profile RX 6400 to each. I then gifted them to two friends who didn't have PCs-- other than old dual core laptops. The combined cost for all the above was just under $450 after tax and shipping. They both get very solid 30-45 FPS in many modern titles, at least at 1080p Low and some Medium settings. That's without trying FSR, as I forgot it existed! Strange yours crashed with Elden Ring. On those two systems, Elden Ring had acceptably smooth framerate around 40fps at 1080p Low when I tested it, no crashes in the ~30 minutes it took my friend to beat the intial area Tree Sentinel on a new character. My other friend maxes out Sea of Thieves now at upper mid settings at 1080p with a 60fps lock. That's such a beautifully optimized game I've discovered fairly late, we enjoy playing together now. These definitely aren't upgrades for the mainstream gamer, but for newer and lower budget gamers, and those coming from PS4 level graphics, they are a solid start to the hobby. They cost less than used PS4s in my area, or used (working) gaming laptops, and any working OEM prebuilts I've come across with dedicated graphics. Plus that RX 6400 is waaay better than the 2GB GPUs in those same prebuilts, most weaker than 1030's. The two Saphire 6400's I bought sipped 45 watts at most, total system power was 114 for the smaller SFF, and 119w for the larger, GPU and CPU maxed out. My main concern was cooling in those cases, but they were generally under 75C for the CPUs at max, 80C for the GPUs. Acceptable, if not ideal. Improved by a solid 5+ degrees once I removed the extra rear IO bracket shields from both. Good enough, especially for having a single exhaust fan each!

[@Vile-Flesh]

Very nice! I enjoy reading about budget builds others have done.

[@htmawia27]

I paired this CPU with the T600 i was inspired to buy after watching your T600 video during the GPU-pocalypse. With 16GB of RAM and a decent SSD, it is quite nice to play old games in my Steam backlog. Nice video

[@deadpain2483]

2:44 why are you hiding? Is that a bush man?

[@randy206]

I just aquired a dell 3040sff with a 6500. Parts are all ordered to move it into an Nzxt h510 with 16gigs of ddr3 low power, a 500 watt evga power supply, and an rx5600 xt. I'm just excited to see what this system will do as I was a year and a half ago building my r7 5800 system. And FTR this is more interesting than 4090 coverage anyway.

[@robcastaneda1]

how was your experience with this cpu and 5600xt?

[@stevenanderson3205]

For some reason youtube would not let me edit what i wrote sorry for the words spelled wrong.

[@philtkaswahl2124]

The i5 6500 was what my rig was built around until just recently. Bought it when Skylake was the shiny new thing.

[@PCGGC]

I just did this same kind of upgrade for my son's pc. Went from i3 6100 to the 6600. MUCH better framerates now in games. He's able to do 1080p60 now with his gtx 1650Super

[@DarkLinkAD]

Workstation desktop or a custom build with custom MB??

[@karlmodry716]

I used to dream about those Skylike CPUs. Only thing I had was X4 880K and those were something else. Funny how I have used i7 6700 now.

[@Google_Censored_Commenter]

This is actually my current gaming setup! Nice to see it get some attention.

[@Grandmaster-Kush]

With my 1070 after the jump from i5 6600 non K to an i5 10600k all of a sudden all the framepacing issues, stutter and slowness dissapeared in all titles, even the ones with a mostly 60 fps like Escape From Tarkov. the 4 core 4 thread no hyperthreading really hampers the cpu in modern games and DX12 dependent games like BF 1, best thing I did was upgrade my CPU (now I will keep it for 5 or so years :)

[@thesilentgametestr]

i sold a gaming computer the other month that had one of these processors. i used it to test some graphic cards, but with a gtx 760 & 960 i had at the time it did really well in a lot of games from this year(game pass), not amazing, but still was a very capable system. if you dont have high expectations these older processors and older hardware for that matter are still very useful and viable in a gaming system.

[@szaka9395]

6600k with radeon 460 could handle f1 2019, dota and world of warcraft for years to me.

[@Aruneh]

Still have my i5 6600, still a decent CPU.

[@ryanjofre]

You don’t have a k version? What do you run with it??!

[@jjdiner7862]

The prebuilt I use daily has a 6500 and it works perfectly in 2023 with the one caveat being I'm playing through my backlog of older games that aren't as demanding as anything from today. I still use 8gb of ram as well although I've been trying to scrounge the local used market to rustle up something that will run Hogwarts Legacy at 1080p with decent graphics. The more new GPUs they announce the more affordable the used market becomes.

[@milk_bags8915]

what gpu you using with it? just got my hands on a system without a gpu glad to know it can still do something

[@ranehan7726]

Thanks for the benchmarks. I'm still chilling here with my i5 6500 and RX550 2gb.

[@fattomandeibu]

Used one of these with a 1050 about 5 years back, and it makes a serviceable 1080p low machine for most games.

[@CasualGameDev]

I still have this CPU since 2015, its good enough, but definitely has seen better days! I remember back in 2015 I was able to squeeze by with even just a Core 2 quad, now my i5-6500 feels the same haha

[@ketketvauvau]

Got the i5 6500 cpu aswell :), planning to upgrade pc soon

[@MlemDotaPersonal]

I'm ngl your results seem a little strange. I've used an i5 6400 recently, specifically with Elden Ring. With a GTX 1050 2GB and 12GB DDR4 2133 I was able to hit a pretty playable 42 FPS average on low settings 1080p without any of the crashing or major stuttering issues you were experiencing. Perhaps something was funky with the Lenovo motherboard, that was choking the performance?

[@goncalomoura9816]

Also feel the same, I am using an i5 4460 with an RX 470 and DDR3 1600 mhz, and got quite better results, even on CP 2077 with medium settings and crowd density, 0.1% lows never drop below 25, for sure it is the Nvidia ampere driver overhead together with the oberhead from MSI afterburner frametime graph.

[@RS-nq8xk]

Probably graphics settings. In Horizon 4 (not 5 in the video) specific settings increase CPU load. Most games should have such settings, and they are related to level of detail/draw distance. In Horizon 4 these settings even seem to reduce slight stuttering on a 11th gen i7...

[@mackenziekinz467]

I have had this processor for 7 years and I'm blessed for the performance its given me. If I could go back and buy it again, I would.

[@TrusteftTech]

The thumbs joke was perfect, perfect delivery too.

[@waterbomb407]

My first pc chip on a buget back when it came out finally upgraded to the i7 9700k which was amazing upgrade still holding on with new chips even

[@romanhyka7523]

Went from this i5 and 1070 to I9 9900KF with 3080 (10gb) was such bottlenecked beast that i loved. Now it functions as 60fps budget gaming pc for my dad :D

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Awesome :)

[@kkaagg1000]

I still own and use a 6700k strapped to a HP SFF motherboard in a custom case. Paired with a gtx1660super, it still works stunningly well at 1080p even latest AAA titles. That thing works so well I just can’t get rid of it. You should review the 6700k !!

[@unoriginalname771]

That was my first cpu

[@zar7511]

The 6700k is still pretty great. Is there any game it cannot touch 60fps in now though?

[@MrGoatsy]

I had this CPU 1-2 years ago and it was still fine imo, I did not notice a big increment in speed when I got an i5-11400f.

[@chase7974]

You should have. Unless your GPU is the bottleneck, you should be seeing a massive improvement.

[@MrGoatsy]

@@chase7974 I had a GTX 1070.

[@softerrr7893]

I have this exact i5 6500 overclocked to 4GHz, still holds up pretty well for 60fps gaming pared with a gtx 1070. Though I might upgrade to something like a i7 6700k if I find one for less than 50€

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah that would be a good route to go down :)

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

Good luck on that one. Your motherboard should also support 7th gen, so maybe look for a 7700K for maximum gains (should give you Ryzen 3300X performance) I didn't find decent prices in my country for those CPUs, so yesterday I finally ditched my 6500 for a Ryzen 5600

[@softerrr7893]

@@thelegendaryklobb2879 yeah luck is definitely what i need, they usually go for 90€ on ebay lol. The 7700k just isn't worth it, much more expensive for a very small gain in performance

[@Kiporino]

In Lithuania you can buy used i5 7400 for 60 euro, i am using 7400 + 1060 3gb since 2017 and everything works fine. I am gonna use it for 3-4 more years

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Nice :)

[@ineligible2267]

I had a Z170 board with a 6600k in around 2016 but I was struggling with the CPU maxing out even back then, saw the writing was on the wall for 4C/4T so I sold all that on for an X58 board with a W3690 + 24GB RAM and the difference in performance blew me away considering how much older the platform is

[@MrSlick145]

One of my boys has the i5 7500 and it’s still a decent cpu for the money.

[@svpracer98]

I've got a 6500 in my dad's desktop, and for some light gaming and media use, it runs really well for what it is. My first build used a later generation, 7500 cpu before being upgraded to a 7700

[@zs4580]

Surprised Elden Ring struggled so badly, it works pretty well on my friend's PC with an i5-7600 which is also a four core, no HT chip. It is faster than the 6500 but only by a little.

[@gomy95]

Thanks maaate video was exactly what I needed to see. My mate got a free pc and I thought something was wrong with it, performance was worse than I expected and tdp said 34w under full load. I expected 65w. Now I see it’s just the way it is

[@juqu3700]

I got my computer with i5-6600 and gtx950 in 2016. Yesterday I plugged in gtx1660 super and now the CPU has become the weaker part.

[@theratking180]

If you want to play games like cs, tf2, rainbow six siege, valorant, garrys mod, or any other comp and or social games like scp sl, the i5 6500 is great, only had to pay 150$ for the 6500, 16 gb ddr4 ram 1tb ssd, and a 500 gb hard drive, plus an 80$ used gtx 1050ti works great

[@kode0110]

Thank you 🙏🏽 This comment just convinced me to go ahead with my purchase 😂

[@jayman4566]

Had a i5 6500 but with much slower ram. Was power and size limited as it was a sff Dell. Tried some cards that were supposed to work like a GTX 1650 and it was a disaster. Ended up using it to give my mom a better computer.

[@noob_driveregy7744]

How much of a disaster was it?

[@noname1210hh]

my 4790k mobo shat itself so i was in a pinch and bought a dell precision tower with a 6500, put a ssd and maxed out the ram, with a 1650 it does me just fine but im not a heavy gamer

[@macitto_14]

@1:40 That cpu fan sticker gives me anxiety.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

😁

[@thelordkiller_ytxxshadowmi8813]

I've got an i5 6402p and it runs better in all instances than what you showed in the video except RDR2 where it's the same. I limit all my games to 60 fps and yeah, it doesnt exactly keep it constantly, but forza, cyberpunk and spider-man have way less stutters for me than what you got in the video and the average is a bit higher. When I installed windows 2 months ago I ran a debloat script with the things I didn't need. You should give it a try on older systems, maybe that's the problem. Also, my ram config is 4x4gb 2133mhz. I did buy a 2x8gb 3200mhz last year, but performance was exactly the same, so I returned it. CPU is still a champ.

[@stuckbizzabee3921]

I was thinking the same thing, I’ve got a Xeon e3 1245v3 which is basically an i7 4790 so it’s a 4c 8t chip and it is capable of well above 60 fps in a lot of these games. It’s not stuttery either. I’m even running it on a Lenovo m83 motherboard with a similar 12 to 24 pin power adapter. Just some strange results but maybe cause it’s not got hyperthreading? Idk

[@Carrington1961]

I have a i5 6500 and elden ring get near constant 60 and no stutters

[@alsy342]

HyperThreading is very important these days my i7 6700k 4,6 GHz OC would outperform this by a lot... i7 6700k is almost similar to i3 10100f, with OC is mby slightly better

[@Tony-Dev]

My quad core i5 6600K is still going strong, thinking of getting a cheap 6700K to upgrade.

[@ntgm20]

I have a HP Elitedesk that came with a i5-6500. I bought an i3-6100 and i7-6700 to do some benchmarks, but not games. Geekbench5 scores ran inside Linux were 990/2045 for the i3, 1028/3405 for the i5, and 1130/3698 for the i7. Not as big of a jump as I would have thought. I'm planning on running pfsense on this machine, and am hoping to do a small video on that soon, especially since I've been running the i7 without a fan on the heatsink for about a week now.

[@joeyhillers9460]

Oh wow, I remember replacing my 1366 pc with a Kaby Lake PC. I built mine with that famous g4600, the older brother to the g4560 and it still worked great. Now that would be a video though. Do a 1050 TI/RX 570 g4560 pc because that used to be such a common build quite a few years ago

[@TheDudeWithNoName]

Ooof, My brother's PC has a i5 6500 + 1060 6gb combo and he's enjoying Cyberpunk with a mixture of medium and high settings and most other games, He's planning for a i5 12400 upgrade but gotta get the dough first.

[@mikatorkkeli4932]

Sounds like my upgrade, had an 6700k i7 and upgraded with not so cheap to a 7700k i7 and got 5% speed bumb :)

[@luddl4105]

Gosh, I really wanted one of these(i5 6400) when skylake was new back in 2015/16. Actually pretty glad I didnt buy one of these, like damn didnt think the perfomance would be that bad. Its a midranger from 7 years ago not 70.

[@lost4356]

What Do you expect? even the i3 12100 can outperform i5 10400 and is like 2-year difference, Newer Apps will need more computing power also Hardware is constantly improving.

[@fajaradi1223]

Thanks to Ryzen. Without Ryzen, intel would be more than happy to sell you 2 core i3, and 4 cores i5 forever. With mere 5% to 11% performance uplift for every 18 months.

[@luddl4105]

@@lost4356 Havent been that much into hardware lately and didnt know that an 4core no ht processor is obsolete nowadays. Grew up in the lazy intel days when they had no competition thanks to fx. Hope my r5 2600 stays relevant for a bit longer than that. But my little Zen+ ryzen will eventually be obsolete because of the bad ipc and not the lack of cores.

[@DukeDudeston]

I had a similar problem, although I do think my results were down to inefficient cooling more than anything. I have an itx build I done for my 7 year old daughter so she can enjoy Lego Worlds - her fave game - it is currently equipped with an I5 3550 (it's 3rd gen obviously can't remember if that's the exact model) and had it with a 1050ti. Nice little combo. After being able to grab a 3070ti when things calmed down a bit, I slapped my substitute 1070ti I got in my recent build into my daughter's PC. Yes it is heavily bottlenecked by the CPU. I managed to grab a cheap I7 3770, thinking that may help matters (and it probably would in any normal build) but instead my quiet itx build sounded like a vacuum cleaner, the CPU hit high temps causing thermal throttling and overall performance gain, just wasn't worth it. Think I worked out a 5% gain. Back to the I5 my daughter obviously doesn't care, but I was thinking might be good to play some older games on that as the overall power consumption is a lot lower than my I9 rig, but never mind. Still a nice 1080p machine.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

Wow, such crazy timing... Yesterday I bought one of those chinese RX 6600M to replace my old and tired R9 380, and was considering sticking with my current i5 6500 and single 8 gb DDR4 memory for a bit longer until Zen 4 and DDR5 came down in price. But I quickly reconsidered and bought a new B550 platform with a Ryzen 5600 and 16 gb of 3600 memory. I had some doubts on exactly how much of a bottleneck I avoided, then came the answer in this video! That poor RTX 3060 Ti wanted to stretch her wings so badly XD

[@Vile-Flesh]

I'm honestly surprised how all these games strained the 6500, I thought it would have faired better and here I was about to set out building a budget Haswell system which is the previous generation.

[@thelegendaryklobb2879]

@@Vile-Flesh Gaming on it has been quite frustrating recently, can't even get 60 FPS average on Doom Eternal. And the R9 380 should be able to handle it on a better CPU. The whole PC was a dead end by now, though it was good in 2015 when I bought it

[@RS-nq8xk]

@@Vile-Flesh Some graphics settings increase CPU load (more rendering). It should fare better in Horizon 5 with specific settings turned down for example.

[@dcikaruga]

Really need the i7-6700 but I doubt if that would make full use of a a 3060 RTX either, 1660 Super or Ti would be more suitable.

[@dyslectische]

Rtx 2060 or a rtx3050 wil be the max i think .

[@deamondeathstone1]

I've noticed that all the pure quadcore cpu's (I5 2400, I5 3330 and Ryzen 3 1200) I have basically spend a lot of time at 100%. Hyperthreading or SMT gives a quadcore just a bit more breathingroom.

[@NegerKim]

at least with your 1200 you can easily amend that with a 1600 or 2600 for like £50

[@Nemofishman]

or go nuts if you got a decent enough mobo to possibly go all the way to 5950X.

[@Mini-z1994]

Yep, i struggle in GTA Online for example with an I5 2500k at 4.5 ghz 4x4 gb ram & a 1660 super here if i want too do anything in the steam overlay or if i get a message here on steam, as i need too run epic games launcher at the same time im sitting at around mid 40's in fps in a populated lobby & even in a solo session i drop below my 83 fps cap pretty easily.

[@anurbanpenguin8890]

I wonder if it would be possible to modify the bios of this board using the coffee time tool to add 8th/9th gen support. You could then throw an 8100 or 9100 in it. You’d probably need a EEPROM reader to get it directly from the bios chip and read back to it. I believe you could still only use a quad core as the 6 core and higher have a different pin layout, but could be wrong in that or a tape mod might work.

[@IWorkForMeal]

You're right, 6-core desktop 8- and 9-Gen CPUs have slightly different pinout. But you can get around that by isolating and shorting some of the pins. This topic is pretty well documented, but i'm not sure about OEM board like HP, Lenovo and Dell. Also laptop chips from Aliexpress are already modified for 100 and 200 series boards.

[@TristanSpeno]

Still using an i5 6500, and it works perfectly fine for what I'm using it for. I have no complaints with it.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Glad to hear it’s still holding up for you :)

[@nobodycares3333]

Everyone - RTX 4090 RGHD - i5 6500

[@CHAOSDixieMan]

yup, I still own this CPU and Cyberpunk's frame dips problem in crowded areas is very well known for me. Lowering the graphic settings does not help of course. I'm upgrading to i7 7700k soon so I hope it will do better

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Yeah that’ll be a great help

[@dyslectische]

No you will still have cpu botleck even if you use a i7 7700k with ht. H.T on a cpu only work if you have cpu time left . If no cpu time it will have hick-ups to try to use the HT to make time free for it. So you will have more fps but you will have more real dips and micro stuttering from it So save your valuta or sell your pc parts. And go for a cheap use motherboard with a b320 chip or a b450chip and a Ryzen 2600 or up . If you stay with Windows 10 you can use a Ryzen 1700 and up if you need more core (personal stay with the ryzen 2600 or up) You can still use your ddr4 memory for the ryzen setup . For the long run this wil be cheaper.

[@arz1898]

Idk about your local price but here, 7700k, or any unlocked intel cpu in general is bad value, better sell you mb cpu combo and buy a cheap am4 one...

[@CHAOSDixieMan]

@@arz1898 I'm getting it from a friend that have some spares so I decided to give it a shot. Besides I do plan on buying a new PC sometime around this year so thanks for the advice, maybe I will switch to AMD after having like 4 Intel PCs for the last 20 years lol.

[@arz1898]

Ok that's fine, in case of a cheap upgrade check prices for r5 3600/5600 with cheap a320/a520 boards, I'm sure you can buy it for around the same price of current combo, or even less if you sell that 7700k, they really hold value for whatever reason!

[@mingmo9381]

The low performance may be because the processor is limited to 35W. I didn't see the power draw go above 40W in any of the benchmarks. A lot of OEM motherboards designed for very small towers or slim systems will limit power draw to 35W.

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Ah could be right there.

[@kenoalbatros]

Well I had the same experience when I upgraded my GPU from an AMD RX 470 to a 6600XT a few month ago.. bought an i5 12400 and a new mainboard a week later :D

[@KimBoKastekniv47]

I've had a couple of people tell me their i5-7400 paired with an RTX 2060 works "just fine", and proceeded calling me a hater when I asked them to show me their MSI Afterburner overlay.

[@LoveOfMules13]

Elden Ring can will run at 50-60FPS even on a Haswell i5 with a GTX 1070, so something weird is going on with that one.

[@GoodGooseThingit]

This is the CPU I still use to this day. I can still play games at normal settings and basic tasks are easy to do. I don’t plan on upgrading any time soon :)

[@RandomGaminginHD]

Awesome :)

[@Howch125]

Yay RGHD upload! Hope you had an awesome holiday!

[@blakegriplingph]

I don't doubt it if it's a similar situation with Mafia: Definitive Edition. On a Ryzen 3 2200G, it stutters and grinds down in denser areas when there's so much geometry and logic going on, but less crowded districts such as in the countryside are less of a pain for the CPU to handle.

[@Evan_Schaefering]

The nice thing is that a 2200g has real upgrade paths and these old Intel chips generally don't. A 6c12t Ryzen can be had for 100-150$ with serious performance gains over a 2200g.

[@TheSpotify95]

Yeah, I don't know why Intel stuck for so long at just 4 physical cores for their i5 CPUs. It seems like more modern games need more than 4 cores (or at least more than 4 cores and 4 threads). Still, an improvement over that old i3, that's for certain.

[@Orcawhale1]

Because it made more sense to focus on other features, and higher single core performance. And frankly, they were right. It's really only in the last 2 years with the new consoles releasing, that we've seen the need for more cores and threads.

[@AetiusPraetorian]

Yeah, the old quad core i5's are pretty much at their EOL in modern games. I plan on finally upgrading my i5-7600k system for either an R7 7700 or 7900 (non-X) or a newer Intel cpu.

[@TaggartRomkey]

I upgraded to the 6400 i5 from using an old core 2 duo 8500. It is a definite step up from the core 2 rig I was using.

[@MrDjXray3]

i have this CPU it's deacent with MSI GTX 1060 6GB and 16gb ram 99% games works great :) recently i bought i7 10700 to ugrade now i just wating for me new motherboard ps about Forza horizon 5 i found how i can get 60 FPS always (only one plays on map give me 55 FPS for less that 1 sec)

[@underSTATEDexcellence]

Great video but did you let the Tree Surgeon perform the operation? You can leave me hanging….

[@Andrmax89]

The 6500 was my first cpu I bought with my first paycheck when I moved to the UK. It struggled always. I'm glad I upgraded to a 6700 later when elden ring came out and I had no issue ever since

[@TraFClub]

I had ordered 6500 last weekend for my coding work and lightweight gaming.. 😐

[@ShogoKawada123]

It's possible a PC like this would support something like the Xeon E3-1270 v5, which is effectively a non-"K" i7-6700 without the iGPU (the Xeon has the same max turbo but a 200MHz higher base clock). E-series desktop Xeons are very often way cheaper on the used market than any i7 is.

[@watercannonscollaboration2281]

I got one of these free from a disemboweled optiplex from school, this was the only part they didn’t pick out before throwing it away

[@RandomGaminginHD]

What a deal! :)

[@JayzBeerz]

The 10th Gen should the furthest back anyone should go with a budget gaming build.

[@stevesmith1383]

Lol

[@Beesem]

Since you mentioned it yourself near the end of the video, it would be interesting to see how a 6th gen i7 holds up compared to this 6th gen i5.

[@itIsI988]

Upgraded my 6500 to a 7700 and it made a pretty much night and day difference. Games went from about 50ish FPS with major stuttering to about 80ish with less stuttering, 100% usage to about 70%. 2400MT/s RAM support might be helping a little bit as well.

[@somemore9784]

The faster ram probably will actually help a lot

[@erictruog1659]

36 watts power consumption at 100% load... Are you sure this chip is running at it's full potential on this board?

[@RandomGaminginHD]

I have no idea at this point. The board is not great

[@xIJudasIx]

it was a perfect match with a r9 380 4gb and served me 5 years. sold them and kept the motherboard (z170a, yeah futureproof :) ) and bought i7 6700k and rx 6600. I'm super happy because this upgrade cost me like 250 bucks net on this april when the gpu prices still very expensive. Good thing is, I sold 6500 and r9 380 for 200 bucks which is crazy imho.

[@Beisepimp]

I have expected better results then this with the i5-6500. :'D I've had a 6700 for a while ago and it's really a big difference with these 4 extra threads.

[@KimBoKastekniv47]

The extra threads really do help.

[@rotharnold4595]

Usually these boards have the lowest spec chipset to them, and that's quite upsetting..

[@rolandsj8880]

i got myself i7-7700k for my old i5-6400 :), indeed max DDR4 2133 Mhz support

[@ketketvauvau]

Did you feel the upgrade? Is it worth?

[@rolandsj8880]

@@ketketvauvau yes, very much so. I also got extra ram that was just 8 gb 2133 for 15€ more. And I can run games way better. My total spending was 100€ and have 30% better cs2 performance at least. Still cpu is bottleneck for my 6700xt graphics, but for now for this money is best cpu my motherboard can run :) for that price totally worth it

[@ketketvauvau]

@@rolandsj8880 Damn that’s cool! I also have right now i5 6500 with gtx 1060 6GB. It’s my 8 years old PC and planning to upgrade soon, but I found some cheap i7 7700/k processors via Aliexpress and was thinking maybe of getting it… but I think I will stick to i5 6500 few months more and then on the summer upgrade my PC. The rig I want to buy is following: Ryzen 7 7700 and RX 7900 GRE.

[@rolandsj8880]

@@ketketvauvau Good stuff. 7700k was the way. But new CPUs with more cores are just better. Good luck with new machine. My idea was, i bought PC tu 'upgrade' in the future. Then upgraded Video and saw i5 was 100% usage, GPU was 20% usage. So used 7700k for 80$ was a bargan, considering is way faster than 15 6400 :) following year I also will get new PC, and will keep just GPU.

[@BegocerL]

I'm still using an i5 6500. My 3060 I just got isn't being bottlenecked at all, it's straight up being strangled but I'm getting a 12400 next week to ease it's suffering.

[@ChristiaanSC]

That was my previous cpu, it's chilling in my SO PC with a 1030. She's not playing anything hectic. I moved to a R5 1600 with 1060. It gets the job done. Always good to see some love for the older hardware. I chose the 6500 because of that 400MHz higher base over the 6400. Was marginally more expensive. So glad I didn't go for the i3 back then.

[@2048Megabytes.]

My friend is probably going to be buying a 6500. Thanks for the informational video

[@gt4lex]

I'm about to retire my good i5 6500, ran it for 8 years, doing gaming, photoshop / illustrator and other things, replacement sitting on my table right now. It was a good soldier, if you kept it focused on a single task it was amazing. I'll give it some fresh thermal paste before trying to sell it with the mobo, 8gb ram and a 120gb sata SSD with a fresh install of Win10 on it. What do you reckon would be a fair price to ask for all that ?

[@GerardinhoLP]

A couple of friends just recently upgraded from i5s 6600K and 7400. Great chips that worked fine for many years but it's stutter city with modern titles due to the lack of HT in them.

[@PinguinoPocho]

Yeah still got my 7500, im waiting zen 5 all the way, jump to am5; pcie 5.0, ddr5 and if posible the x3D version. It seems the best option for me.

[@GerardinhoLP]

@@PinguinoPocho if you want my advice, get at least a B650 with the cheapest Ryzen 7XXX you can find, then later upgrade. The socket will last for at least 3 generations so then you'd need only a new CPU (and more RAM depending). That's what I'd do (and did in AM4. First B450 + 8gb + R3 3100, then 16gb, then 32gb and R5 5600. Currently debating between an X3D or waiting for a platform upgrade altogether)

[@PinguinoPocho]

@@GerardinhoLP I appreciate the feedback but i can hold 6 months more and make a better optimization on my system. I did my research with time. We are almost at the end of the trail on ddr4 memories. I know the first true am5 socket will need alot or refinement the first years but for now it seems the best path, but yeah will be alot of money.

[@MikeStavola]

My 6500 and an rx480 runs pretty nicely. I have fast memory, an m.2 SSD, and a good motherboard, so that probably helps.

[@dyslectische]

No you have gpu botleck and that is nice. Wy you ask? You have more cpu time back for it if your gpu is 100% . The cpu can have a coffee break on that moment On the moment you upgrade your gpu than your new gpu will have a coffee break time .

[@downundergarage6968]

Would love to see the i5-7500 comp, i would expect 5 to 10% overall improvement on the 3060ti

[@slaydog5102]

7500 is so much better

[@JamesSmith-sw3nk]

In 2022, any Intel i5 pre 10th gen is now a media or retro gaming pc. Time moves on. The i5 6500T is a great cpu for a cheap mini media pc.

[@leonxus2701]

i have 6500, bought it in 2016 and will be using it another 2 more years i think. not bad, with better board, i have asus z170-p its good

[@suhailnoor6898]

Can you please help me out. I can't decide between a i5 6500 pre built and an i7 4770 to pair it with a Rx 6400. Which one will be better? They're both almost the same price

[@baregum]

My ol trusty pc still have the i5 6600 one! And gtx 1060. A godly value combo at the time. Not really playing newest title anyway so its still capable enough for me.

[@Augmented_Realism]

My rusty PC still has i5-7500 and 1060 6GB, Still holding up meh but it's good for some of the people as well :)

[@TigTex]

Are you sure that your cpu is not being power limited? It's strange to only see 35w at full load.

[@downundergarage6968]

I never knew that there was a i3-6098p cpu, i would gladly buy it from you.

[@rudolfgernd8760]

I use the i5-6500 to this day and it runs everything in 1080p. Could not expect more from an 8 year old CPU. I am still waiting for the game that forces me to upgrade.

[@budgetking2591]

cool thing aboutt his socket, is that it can fit ciustomized coffeelake laptop chips.

[@CFWhitman]

I wouldn't be surprised if your best bet at a budget gaming processor for this board was some old Xeon 4 core hyperthreaded processor from Ebay.

[@jakestocker4854]

Honestly even the i5-6600K I had was showing it's age years ago. 6th gen really didn't age all too well

[@wanderingwobb6300]

Once we actually start getting games that are built around the Zen 2 CPUs in the new consoles they'll be completely dead in the water honestly for anything new coming out after that.

[@seriksson9721]

Good "bang for the buck" builds are always appreciated.