The Icon | Documentary

[@xabialonso5785]

These videos deserve far more views based on quality of content… Please don’t stop posting, you have one of the most underrated channels.

[@OrthodoxLoner]

@@xabialonso5785 Maybe in 2025.

[@xabialonso5785]

@ God willing it will happen - there is a void when it comes to specifically Orthodox content on KZbin and you are filling it. All the best in 2025.

[@hxplxss1835]

You're on your way up man. Keep up the hard work,.

[@brotherbrovet1881]

Shared to all my Orthodox and cathecumen and inquirer friends.

[@dropsofink1336]

I am definitely an Orthodox loner! 😎 Great video!

[@protestanttoorthodox3625]

Have you seen the new documentary on Icons? It’s called “The Hidden History of early Christian art”. It’s on the Harmony KZbin channel.

[@OrthodoxLoner]

Yes!

[@MaraJaha-ih3ky]

The pinnacle in art history was actually reached in the orthodox iconography of middle ages. Ever so fresh, alive and modern. When catholics fell into herecy same happened to their art with the raising of how ironic- the renaissance. Art lost it's spiritual essence turned towards this world and started degenerating ever since.

[@H1rTik]

Wonderful video ❤️

[@BrunoAlves-rj5uw]

Remember both churches share this history And the art style is not only orthodox

[@OrthodoxChristianTheology]

Im confused. Is this from the 7 part film or inspired by that film?

[@OrthodoxLoner]

I compiled the 7 parts into one and made new visuals for clarity. The whole documentary can be found in the description of the video!

[@OrthodoxChristianTheology]

@OrthodoxLoner yes ill share yours

[@JoyFrimpong]

This is absolutely edifying. Full of well-rounded theology, and exaltation. God Bless you, Sir. On my journey toward baptism, my family members see the path I am walking, and wish to understand it better. As I grow in understanding, your foundational content will be a valuable place to direct them. Especially regarding the strong iconoclastic attitude which many who 'proclaim' Christ display. I am praying for you. By the prayers of the Theotokos and by the prayers of my lowly lips, may you be healed. This track here is marvelous (23:59). Would you mind sharing the title? Struggle well, Sir.

[@OrthodoxLoner]

Thank you! My best guess is Psalam 136 - "Slavite Gospoda". I only made the visuals.

[@protestanttoorthodox3625]

Awesome work!!!

[@thebossman5422]

Dang

[@bwithgod6374]

The narrator sounds familiar. Good video. Informative.

[@constantinekarampelas9954]

Would it be possible to find the exact commentary from St John Damascus regarding his mentioning on the temple?

[@marioterran0]

hey are you serbian? asking just cause you keep on using serbian stuff in this video (like the few things being read from the bible and serbian songs)

[@OrthodoxLoner]

I am. And the original 7 part documentary was done completely by Serbian production.

[@marioterran0]

@@OrthodoxLoner fino, aj zivio

[@MaraJaha-ih3ky]

Јееејјјј❤

[@xrendezv0usx]

I dont have a problem with religious icons per say. My problem is with bowing down to them. We dont bow down to man made images.

[@OrthodoxLoner]

Check out harmony's video called "Hidden History of Early Christian Art."

[@DissonanceRiver]

We bow to Christ. It is an image of Christ, God, Holiness, which is real. We don't worship the painting or image. That is a modern, consumerist, Western way of looking at it. The pragmatic west boils things down to, well, pragmatism, and completely misses the heart.

[@xrendezv0usx]

@@DissonanceRiver no the image is NOT Christ. That's just blasphemy. Bowing down to images is a pagan practice from pagan Rome that crept into the church. It is anathema to our religion and to our Apostles, who were God fearing Jewish men who NEVER bowed down to any man made image. Follow the traditions of Peter the rock, who never bowed down to any man made image.

[@TylerMadison711]

We bow down to a very real and Holy Spirit who is ever in our presence

[@cbasallie]

Kiss a picture of your baby? Turn out the lights to watch a movie so the screen gets your full attention? Salute the flag? Do the wave at a football game? Those are demonstrations of love and respect.

[@JayDee-x2b]

Icon is code for idol worshipping

[@DissonanceRiver]

If you paid attention to the source material, if you set your heart to hear theirs out, you would actually see this is not the case as it is explicitly stated over and over.

[@xabialonso5785]

Your comment is code for “I have no reading nor listening comprehension”. Information goes in one ear and right out the other for you.

[@linomolina7855]

Typical Protestant bearing false witness, yet they worship Luther and his false teachings.

[@JayDee-x2b]

@@DissonanceRiver keep telling yourself Xmas tree is not pagan idol. No. Nothing is idol I don't see any statues of Mary .. lol No nothing to see hear. No giant phallic steeple. No

[@DissonanceRiver]

@@JayDee-x2b "giant p***** steeple." Gross. You do not use your ears to hear. You don't incline your heart to listen, even if you disagree. Here is the issue: you WANT to find fault in it.

[@johnathanl8396]

All of the pre-5th century "examples of iconography" you quote carry no indication that they were "venerated" at all. Neither do the Israelite tabernacle and associated objects. This is because the concept of the veneration of icons is a post-Patristic accretion. Men of faith like St. Epiphanius of Salamis (in Jerome, Letter 51) tore down an icon of Christ that was given veneration and historians like Eusebius describe the Christian church as distinctly devoid of images (in Eusebius' letter to Constantia).

[@OrthodoxLoner]

@johnathanl8396 St. Epiphanius was wrong on a few things. I'm not following one church father. For more proof and information, check out harmony's video called "Hidden History of Early Christian Art."

[@protestanttoorthodox3625]

Awesome work!!

[@CosmicMystery7]

Bookmarking this so I can respond when I'm home. Josephus actually testifies to the existence of Christian images, and the archaeological record has indisputably confirmed this. As for veneration, you really should watch Seraphim Hamilton's most recent video demolishing the aniconic position of Ortlund. I'll respond in depth later and show you the logical impossibility of separating adornment with images/didactic images and veneration.

[@joemorales5967]

I find nothing of the sort in scripture, especially within the Gospels and the Apostolic epistles. Something went wrong during the third century. Yet, the Lord has always had a remnant people!