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[@jrm523]

Everyone watching this video should support right to repair. With the right legislation, R2R would prevent OEMs from locking down their data making it near impossible for owners to maintain and repair their own car

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Absolutely!! 💯 John Deere tractor owners should not have to pay people to hack into their own tractor so they can repair it themselves, versus pay exorbitant fees out to John Deere for the same exact repair...

[@CrazyCat229]

TRUTH! Its getting stupid now. Most of these new cars on the road with their nanny stuff require a scan tool to do somthing as simple as the brakes. --_--

[@1957cajun]

This is a really good point to make in this place! I also have supported Right to Repair.

[@ladgiezotyka9391]

Labor time is very important when it comes to running your own shop or being a mobile mechanic. Labor time is why we use software like “ALLDATA” and “Mitchell 1”. Those softwares are cheaper and give labor times. If I’m going to spend more money on the software I want it all included.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Hey thank you so much for watching! We completely understand where you are coming from here, and made the labor suggestion as well to Harbor Freight so who knows what happens in the future ☺️ Also thanks for Subscribing to our channel too we really appreciate your support 👊

[@fastturbo7150]

Yep agreed i would of signed up for the year if it had labor time. Since i have to have labor time included. Sadly i cant switch over and sign up for this software. I pay for identafix there all bout the same price. This is 299$ a year correct? This would be wayyyyyyy more affordable if it had labor time included. Even raise the price but include labor time

[@donnied6759]

Book time is nice but doesn't include rusted,stripped threads connectors that break because of heat stress, etc.

[@joehelf]

AllData is cheaper? I'm a DIY'r and AllData charges me a fee for every vehicle I want to work on. Not any vehicle for one price. Do you have something different with AllData?

[@JoeCnNd]

@@fastturbo7150 Where you getting identafix for 299 a year? That's about the monthly cost I thought.

[@ladgiezotyka9391]

All the data so far is awesome just want labor times as well. Don’t skip out on anything

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thanks for watching! We will take this back to Harbor Freight's team ☺️

[@mr.e8802]

They should have labor time as an add on option. Offer it cheaper than AllData monthly and this would be a great option.

[@donaldtyrone2940]

Would definitely like the labor times to be included

[@traviscoombes3578]

I have the T8, and I love it. Does everything I need.

[@rickyj2013]

Labor time is extremely valuable even for the guys who work at a dealer and just do some small jobs on the side

[@michaelfannin5456]

No Labor times is a deal breaker for me. I'm a mobile mechanic and have to have it

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thanks for letting us know we do appreciate it, and thanks for watching too! Can we ask what are you using now for a scan tool for doing mobile repairs? I'm actually very curious to know what's the sweet spot scan tool wise for you when working mobile?

[@michaelfannin5456]

@@FreshVintageGarage I've been using a autel scan tool and it's getting older and looking to purchase a new scan tool.

[@johndavid3598]

same

[@victorhoyt4352]

​​@@FreshVintageGarageas a mobile mechanic myself here in Atlanta Georgia, I use the launch x431 pro3s+ V5.0 Elite and the xtool D8W, which covers about 99% of all my needs as far as scan tools are concerned. Whatever the launch can't do, the xtool picks up the slack. I also have a subscription to AllData, as well as autoauth.

[@weldingjunkie]

It’s $299 a year not $150 a month how’s that a deal breaker ?

[@WrenchAddiction]

I have to agree with others regarding the need for “Labor Times”. That would really make this a complete package. Did Harbor Freight say Labor Times is something coming in the future?

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thank you for watching! Right now Harbor Freight is focused on the "Fix" side of things from what they told us; if we get a million people demanding the labor times in the comments we will put them into one gigantic email and send them over to HF and see what happens ☺️ Please consider subscribing to Fresh Vintage Garage too we do appreciate it!

[@user-gy9bc8nl4f]

The company they are using for the manuals does offer labor times, wouldn’t be surprised they offer it in the future. Tho not very important when they are targeting DIYers and using a low cost subscription

[@courier11sec]

@FreshVintageGarage count me as one of that million. Also would like to see the included software on the Zurich machines get a similar improvement or at least some basic service data (diagrams, specs, etc.)

[@BrohoshaphatG]

Everything sounded great until no Toyota support. Even lack of labor times is manageable, you can get a standalone labor guide service elsewhere for $15/month. But a lack of Toyota support is a big problem. Great overview though.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thanks for watching and subscribing we really appreciate it! Edit: Sorry I hit the send button too soon; we've chatted with Harbor Freight on this and they are very much trying to work with Toyota on this to get the needed OEM level software and data from them 👍

[@1957cajun]

Man this is really nice! But not having Toyota is a real deal breaker for me.

[@joehelf]

Does the ICON software have CAN BUS drawings? Have you tried troubleshooting CAN BUS?

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Not yet - the demo mode in the T10 and T8 only have a few vehicles in it and we have not found a car needing diagnosis via the CAN BUS.

[@Midnightkevin]

21:48 I think ima hold off the t10 until there able to support toyota

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thank you for watching and for subscribing to Fresh Vintage Garage we do appreciate it! While we didn't get the exact details Harbor Freight did confirm they're working with Toyota (and I'll stand by what I said in a video saying this is probably on Toyota's side and not HF) 👍

[@TristanMurray-su6yh]

Does it have how to repair a sunroof track on a 2016 F150?

[@seewhyem]

Would be nice if they allow daily/weekly/monthly subscriptions instead of having to purchase the annual subscription.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

That is an excellent idea!

[@jeremyscott2243]

Dose it include connector pinouts, connector locations? Are the diagrams all redrawn, in other words dose it show all connectors in circuits.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

We reached out to the ICON TrueFix software team and they came back with the information below: Does it include connector pin outs, connector locations? Are the diagrams all redrawn, in other words dose it show all connectors in circuits. - It does support wiring schematics and component locations.

[@Luke-ve3sx]

Would it work for a transmission relearn for a 2015 infinity Q50? Thank you, great video!

[@FreshVintageGarage]

I reached out to Icon and here is their response: It has special learning functions including: Clutch learn gear Clutch A& B learning value Forward engagement point learn It will also take previous learned values from the old TCM to a new TCM. If you have any further questions please reach out to Icon: [e-mail] Thanks for watching and subscribing! 👍👊

[@Luke-ve3sx]

@@FreshVintageGarage thank you!

[@jenjayne333]

I am really interested in this software. I really need labor times though. Do they offer an add on for that? If so that would be perfect! Also do they have an app for TrueFix?

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thanks for checking out the TrueFix software! Right now there are no plans to include the labor time data inside the overall TrueFix software, but we are collecting comments here and sending to Harbor Freight so stay tuned! ☺️ Right now there is no app for this, but we have suggested this to Harbor Freight as well 👍👍

[@sasquatchrosefarts]

​@@FreshVintageGaragewireless connection to a big screen tv would be great, if it doesn't have that.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Hi we confirmed with the ICON team that there are no plans to implement labor times as of right now for the TrueFix software, and there are no current plans for an app for the TrueFix software as well - thanks for watching!

[@alejosimpson5722]

Excellent detailed video, thanks for sharing! I am impressed by the amount of data here. Seems mostly geared towards repair shops, but I defiantly see the value here. Would love to see a monthly or yearly 1-2 vehicle option like alldata has for DIY crowd.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thank you for watching we greatly appreciate it! These are great suggestions and we'll pass them onto Harbor Freight 👍 Thanks for Subscribing too!

[@dmurf4156]

Does the T10 work as a stand alone or when the subscription ends does it become a brick?

[@FreshVintageGarage]

The ICON T10 will still read codes and do other things like oil light resets and other service functions; The main thing that will not function once the subscription expires is the access to the deeper more in-depth diagnostics for the OEMs 👍

[@mechanicalstuff98]

i would love to have labor hours rolled into my service data, as a mobile mechanic, its hard to train my guys to use 6 different apps to get parts, labor, and soon to be tech data

[@rickhernandez3321]

Awesome video guys! I might have to get this!

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Sorry just getting back to comments now - if you haven't checked out your local Harbor Freight to see if they have these in stock definitely hit them up here soon ☺️

[@JayH65]

I might have to get this subscription! Quality content!

[@FreshVintageGarage]

It's incredible to see how versatile and in-depth the software is! The more we use it the more awesome things we find too well worth the money 💯

[@19GT65]

I might have to get me a subscription. Thanks for the detailed video!

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thanks for watching!! Check out the ICON scanners too they are really taking it to the next level at @harborfreighttools ☺️

[@SHSPVR]

There are cheaper and better options out there

[@marcuspowell8521]

I like the look so far, but I would also definitely have to have labor times to ditch alldata for this.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thank you for watching and sharing your thoughts below we do appreciate it! We're going to put all of these into one combined email and send to Harbor Freight here soon 👍

[@OneMHz]

Anyone find a way to check if it supports the models I own before buying?

[@FreshVintageGarage]

You can email Icon Tech support at [e-mail] They are pretty responsive. Thanks for watching and subscribing! 👍👊

[@OneMHz]

@@FreshVintageGarage you weren’t kidding. They answered my email in minutes.

[@Bizija123]

Pretty good deal for 25 a month. It's not limited to an x amount of cars, correct? Unlimited access? DIYer does not need labor time so not a deal breaker. Also, are there month to month option or only yearly?

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thanks for watching! We received the following information back from the ICON team: It's not limited to an x amount of cars, correct? - That is correct. Unlimited access? - Unlimited access, but max of 5 devices accessing the application at one time. Also, are there month to month option or only yearly? - Not at this time.

[@ChiefDLK]

I think if this is the only software a professional will have, then it would need to have labor times.

[@acwright]

Labor fix: 1/2 hr per bolt. 1 hr per bolt if in the rust belt.

[@kylewilliams4507]

Thank you for the great video. I am interested in it and would appreciate if you could check data on ford tansit 350 diesel and sprinter 3500 diesels. If it has wiring diagrams and repair data on those vehicles i will definitely buy it. Thanks in advance

[@MP-po4fp]

Can I buy this software without having an icon scan tool?

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thank you for watching and checking out the TrueFix software! I believe so as the requirements show a Harbor Freight account but no actual need for an ICON scan tool. Thanks for Subscribing too! Help us build the best scan tool and shop tools/equipment channel around 😊

[@jrmassey5327]

@@FreshVintageGarage Yes you can. Go to HFT and look for TrueFix. The T10 is sold with it or you can buy it separate for the T8 or Stand alone.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Hello the ICON Team confirmed you can purchase the TrueFix software without needing to buy a T10 or T8 scan tool - thanks for watching!

[@weldingjunkie]

You can buy it and use your computer you don’t need a scanner just adding that in there

[@courier11sec]

Does the Trufix software have wiring diagrams and other info for older vehicles? 60s 70s 80s early 90s

[@FreshVintageGarage]

It has wiring diagrams for anything 1985 and newer 👍

[@courier11sec]

@FreshVintageGarage that alone is worth the price of admission. Have you found the quality of those diagrams and stuff to be good? Does it have exploded views like microfishe type info?

[@FreshVintageGarage]

All diagrams we have seen are very good quality and easy to read and understand.

[@casanasdanny9165]

Hello, why is Toyota not included?

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thanks for watching and Subscribing to Fresh Vintage Garage we do appreciate it! It's actually a great question...we are not sure as to the exact answer, but we're going to definitely double-check with Harbor Freight to confirm.

[@cbmech2563]

Does it cover heavy trucks?

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thanks for checking out the T10! There are no plans to cover heavy duty trucks with any of the ICON series scan tools as of right now 👍

[@cbmech2563]

@@FreshVintageGarage thanks, I'll look elsewhere

[@edre397]

There are more Toyotas on the road than any other car, not to be included, no good.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Yeah we are scratching our heads on this one too 🤔 thank you for Subscribing to our channel too!

[@wsmc8275]

Definitely a hard pass.

[@Holt0216]

I wish you could pay per scan or per vehicle so individuals could purchase one

[@FreshVintageGarage]

We appreciate you watching and thanks for Subscribing to Fresh Vintage Garage ☺️ Definitely understand where you're coming from, but you would almost inevitably pay more per click or more per car (as an example like $10 or more per car...) versus the unlimited subscription of $299 per year.

[@Holt0216]

@@FreshVintageGarage I’m not a mechanic, I would just like one to diagnose my own cars (3-4 vehicles)

[@athhud]

@@Holt0216 Mitchell1 DIY eautorepair is the best bang for the buck when it comes to personal vehicles. There are a few advantages that the Pro service offers over the DIY service, but the DIY covers most of what anyone would need for general DIY. You can get a 4yr subscription for 1 vehicle for $60. That’s almost free when you break it down to monthly cost. You could get a 4yr subscription for 5 different vehicles for what Truefix costs for one year. Of course Truefix is unlimited vehicles, so it just depends on each persons needs. Alldata has a DIY service as well, but last I looked it cost a LITTLE bit more and I never cared for their website format on my phone. That’s probably just because I was use to Mitchell though. All three services beat the hell out of scouring Google and forums though! No telling how much time I wasted searching for schematics and torque values before these online services came about.

[@sasquatchrosefarts]

​@@Holt0216Hanes manual.

[@Terost36]

Too bad TrueFix doesn't support Toyota or Lexus models.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Yeah no idea on that part either 🤷‍♂️ Thanks for watching and Subscribing to Fresh Vintage Garage we do appreciate it 😊

[@FreshVintageGarage]

The ICON Team confirmed they are working on this now, but no ETA as of yet (we here at FVG assume it has something to do with Toyota not wanting to work with Harbor Freight on this...

[@don-michealbell6303]

More than half of what snap-on is charging

[@danhead2613]

Should include labor

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thanks for letting us know! We are going to gather all of these comments and send them over to Harbor Freight 👍

[@adamreed2734]

Won't buy without labor times

[@johnperez93640]

U know what that means when they say to stick around to the very end of the video. When they say that, i just stop right there and watch something else.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Just to be safe you should delete the KZbin app off your phone so you never have to hear someone say stick around to the very end of the video 👍 But in all seriousness thanks for watching we really appreciate it ☺️

[@ezeeduzzit]

299 is crazy 😂😂😂😂alldata cheaper

[@athhud]

Lol! Alldata services are $200/month or more depending on which service you choose. Last I checked $200/ month is a lot more than the $25/month that Truefix will cost.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thank you for watching and clarifying here! ☺️ I have not looked up AllData but something tells me it is definitely not cheaper than $299 a year 😂

[@dexterdog5480]

Alldata is $2400 per year, this is only $299

[@Volksoner619]

There should be an iq test to use the internet

[@ezeeduzzit]

@@Volksoner619 I don’t pay for alldata sooooooooo

[@LivingTheDream77]

Android 10 is very outdated

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thanks for watching - I'm very much aware of the current version/generation of Android. We mentioned the Android 10 being newer as some of the cheaper scan tools are still running Android 7 right now (these are scan tools available for purchase on Amazon as I type this), so Android 10 is newer by comparison 👍

[@victorhoyt4352]

Pretty much every scan tool on the market runs android 10 or less, so it's pretty clear that you don't use a scan tool, but still feel the need to comment on something you know nothing about.

[@eddiereichel9354]

The reality is a scan tool is only a means of communicating with a vehicle. Codes and part numbers are not the same thing.

[@garym4536]

waste of time watching your reviews of the scan tools and software. You aren't showing their capabilities. Get to know the tool then review it!!!!!

[@SHSPVR]

I think you're missing the point of the video Is it talking about the true fix websites to provides vehicle manufacturers' diagnostic and repair information just like alldata, identifix, mitchell and many others like it.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Hi Gary - thanks for watching we always appreciate it. To confirm we spend quite a bit of time learning how to use these tools, and in fact many of the features and functions that they are capable of we cannot show you as we do not have the exact nuanced broken vehicle that needs repaired, that needs bi-directional control work, that needs ECU coding, that needs CAN based diagnostic work, that may need an electronic parking brake service, that may have a crankshaft sensor or cam sensor that needs re-learned, so on... simply put your request is unreasonable as we could run through 100+ different cars of all years, makes and models to show every possible capability. But we appreciate you watching! Feel free to subscribe so you can watch more of our videos and complain about them too we really appreciate it ☺️

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thanks you get it 👍👊

[@weldingjunkie]

Even weird they “sent” them to a channel with 1k subs hard to believe.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Thank you for watching - we met the Harbor Freight team at SEMA and asked about the T10, T8 and upcoming T7 and they said yes and sent them out to us.

[@megatrolltrollington]

This just shows its not made for professionals. If it was, it would have labor times, and it wouldn't list typical tools as special tools. The only people those tools are special to is home hobbyist.

[@athhud]

Your comment shows that you aren’t a professional. This is OEM data. HF doesn’t consider these to be “special” tools, the manufacturer of the automobile does. Typically “special tool” refers to tools that the technician isn’t expected to go out and buy on their own. It will be tools that the dealership purchases and has available for any technician in the shop to use.

[@donnied6759]

Book time is just a guide that doesn't include rust, stripped threads, broken connectors cause by heat stress, etc

[@megatrolltrollington]

@athhud a special tool has nothing to do with what a tech is exoected to buy. Manufacturers dont get to specify what a special tool is; that is predefined by the industry. A special tool is a tool designed and crated for only a specific vehicle or motor. Fucking battery chargers/testers, multimeters, vacuum gauges, and some of that other bs they showed ARE NOT special tools. See below.... Special tool means a finished or unfinished device such as a die, jig, fixture, mold, pattern, special gauge, or similar device, that is used, or is being prepared for use, to manufacture a product and that cannot be used to manufacture another product without substantial modification of the device. The length of the economic life of the product manufactured shall not be considered in making a determination whether a device used to manufacture that product is a special tool.

[@FreshVintageGarage]

Preach it! You are very right, and growing up up north there needs to be an additional addition of time for rust absolutely 💯

[@megatrolltrollington]

@donnied6759 service manuals are just guides too, doesn't mean they're not useful.