HARBOR FREIGHT NEW ICON TOOLS ARE EXPOSED WHOOPS!! I MADE IT IN AND OUT ALIVE!!

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EPAuto 46 Pieces 1/4-Inch and 3/8-Inch Drive Socket Set with 90 Tooth Reversible Ratchet
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[@brandonerickson4426]

I work as a diesel mechanic and have been abusing my icon sets for two years now and have had not one issue. Everyone can buy what they want im just putting in my two cents having used these tools in my trade and they have performed just as good as any tool truck brand my coworkers have.

[@ReptilianXHologram]

They better than Quinn?

[@honky13333]

THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME well mostly, kinda, basically, almost. Lol

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thats how HF compares tools and usually everyone loves it what's wrong? Lmao

[@Terrydrake868]

The handles looked the same to me!!

[@garycasper2929]

I bet if he would of went ahead and tried swapping out the internals but kept the outside plate the same, it would of transferred over.

[@keithnelson881]

Different handle, different switch, different head size, different finish, are they made in the same factory? Maybe, I'd even say probably. But they are not identical, merely similar

[@rshinn8776]

@honky13333 I saw the old style, and they were the exact same, minus the stamped icon logo on the head vs the etched epauto.

[@matthewblack1993]

I work at a ford body shop, i can see how some snap on, mac tools etc. tools are goof to have. at the same time icon and the lifetime backed warranty is a great option and definitely for a new upcoming technician. i would rather spend less and have a good quality with lifetime over expensive and high apr tool truck pricing. icon is a good brand overall for this field.

[@WorstNightmare420]

@@matthewblack1993 Truth.

[@joeberry4179]

To all the haters in the world I have agood amount of ICON, only bought with 20% off coupons. I also have Dayton, Craftsman usa Snap on, Diamond and Williams. I appreciate all the tools I have and do not abuse any of them. My worst tool is a good and important as the worst. Be proud of what you have and use it to your best ability, I still enjoy watching your channel weather I agree or not. jb

[@CPthetooladdict]

I love this comment at least you understand it's just my opinion and not a judgment of who anyone is and what tools they buy!! Thank you very much!!

[@nitrorc4life1]

​@@CPthetooladdictI am tired of opinions, I just want the truth and facts.

[@coldasstone16]

@@nitrorc4life1 right? Like as soon as he said "I'm probably going to return them" it told me his mind was made up before it was out of the box. And honestly I used to be a hater of hobo freight but they've really stepped up thier quality even on thier toolboxes... and I'm kinda picky on toolboxes because I build expensive custom boxes for my day job.

[@73csp]

@@coldasstone16the fact he had a pre conceived idea just proves he is bias against HF 😂

[@donusmc1]

Harbor freight is like 1/5 the cost of snap on. No comparison. Big surprise there. I buy all my tools from harbor freight and haven’t broken a single one yet and have been able to complete every single task while keeping a lot more of my hard earned cash and if one ever does break I can return it for a new one free of charge with no hassle.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thanks for sharing love always wins ♥️

[@rafaelquinones504]

Also no waiting for the truck to come around!

[@25centsapop]

CP opened the doors to that HF and the winds whispered **just as gooooddddd** He knew he was in for the long haul

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lmao love this comment

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

HarborFreight has changed. I use to consider them one time use only . But for true pros I would stick name brands .But honestly it seems everything is cheaper these days. I think for the diy guy or anyone not worshiping tools some of these if not most are fine .

[@matthew5471]

Agreed. I'm a pro tech who has been quite happy with my icon gear. Only had to replace a single chrome socket i used a gun on, replaced over a lunch break no questions asked. Grew up with my dad going to HF back in the 90's and lemme tell you, it was utter cheap-azz dog shiite back then. Times have changed. I don't take crap based on the name stamped on my tools, especially from the old timer in the shop who still owes $6k for his outdated scanner he never uses but pays $100/week for. Icon simply works, and works well enough for a pro. Also, we lost our snappy guy due to problems with corporate, so the old timer is out of luck when all his shiite breaks. The warranty is only as good as the guy on the truck and when the guy on the truck quits; well there is no guarantee corporate will fill that slot. S-O hasn't visited out shop in 4 months. We have multiple guys with piles of warranty products needed. So exactly what are you paying 4-6X for?

[@Bakedfrijoless]

”For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?“ Mark‬ ‭8‬:‭36‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”John‬3‬:‭16‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.”Romans‬10‬:‭9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

@@Bakedfrijoless why ? Are there not enough religious sites to post this on ?

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

@@matthew5471 eBay has a ton of obsolete SO scanners for sale . I guess they want to try anything to recoup some cash for the next payment.

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

I actually looked into some of those scanners. They are actually worthless in my opinion. And to make matters worse these sellers want to sell the keys piecemeal. I am diy so I bought a launch.

[@gabrielgaxiola1146]

I love my 24k Gold plated Icon ratchets I use them whenever I don’t want to scratch up my Snap on one’s.

[@benfarms31]

Woke up from an after work nap to a new CP video, WOOOO!

[@CPthetooladdict]

👋👋👋

[@513Garage]

Icon and Pitrsburgh ratchets both have lifetime warranties that are hassle free. That kit is a good deal though but I bet there is no warranty

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lifetime warranty on.those tools as well

[@Skilful_basics8]

What hand tool doesn’t have lifetime warranty?. You won’t sell a hand tool without one

[@danlsmock]

I was a friend of Allen Smidt and remember well when his son Eric had him removed from the company. Allen never got over that and when he had a heart attack his son never visited him before he passed. Eric bills himself as the founder of HF but in actuality he stole the company from his father. Employees used to be treated well but that changed drastically with Eric and his greed. I will never give them another penny.

[@drscopeify]

EP Auto has a black case with a full 3/8 set from 8mm to 19mm deep and shallow as well as some SAE and a ratchet and extensions and wobble socket made in Taiwan and I have to tell you its great car kit very small size case with no wasted space, really awesome set. I was able to fit a gear wrench ratchet with a little modification to the case

[@nicolaszamudio8699]

Whenever i need to fix something in my house i run to harbor freight, their tools have always worked fine for me and at a much cheaper price than lowes or home depot but to each their own

[@pwrattorney]

I agree, the Icon back-drag - especially on the 1/4’s - is pretty bad; however, I’ve found that after using these for a few hundred rotations in either direction that they become much smoother.

[@edgee400]

I cannot talk about the supplier for Harbor Freight but at one point I did work for Chervon in their office. What would happen they would put a run of tools and when that run was done the manufacturer would keep the stampings for the gears the bodies and everything and print their own sets at a cheaper price using much cheaper Steel also sometimes at the behest of the company itself they would set two identical sets of tools but paying $1.10 per pound for raw materials compared to 2.80 a pound for materials. same exact tools on the outside and inside. Different names and customers sold to.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yes it's happened to me as well when I was a tool dealer

[@Bullfighter6262]

you are hilarious, you keep saying these tool are identical and then you prove yourself wrong and then you repeat the identical speech and prove yourself wrong again in this short video. I love it. You are hilarious. enjoyed this very much, looking forward to more videos. keep up the good work

[@CPthetooladdict]

It's a harbor freight comparison that's what they do with snap-on all the time. They had to have some fun!! Lol

[@VB-bk1lh]

I think the one thing everyone here is missing is that all off these Asian ratchets are to some degree a Snap On Knock off. They're an obvious copy of the original Snap On design developed over 70 years ago. The key to whether or not these cheaper ratchets are worth owning is whether or not they hold up to daily use in the real world. Any manufacturer can copy a design or blueprint but if its made from substandard materials or fails to follow the same design tolerances its either going to fail or simply fail to perform at the same level of the original. Before I'd spend $70 on two ratchets from Harbor Freight, or any amount for a cheap Chinese tool I'd opt for a good used Snap On, Mac, Matco, or even Craftsman. I've pretty much built up the better part of my tool collection over the years by buying used, most of which I acquired at local flea markets, estate sales, and yard sales. HF has a purpose, but I can't see them as a top quality tool supplier. I've always used HF tools as sort of the disposable tools in my tool box, their the wrenches that you grind or weld on to make a special too, their the tools you use when your working on a boat and likely to drop them into the deep. I don't see them as a good place to spend real money on tools that are nothing but polished Chinese copies.

[@CPthetooladdict]

It's so funny that only very few can understand like you!!

[@rileyc6342]

I'll preface this by saying I don't really buy or enjoy harborfreight all that much ( i think the icon hose picks are the only harborfreight in my work box). Harbor freight has its place. My shop doesnt provide cconsumables so the ability to get cheap ones from HF really helps. HF also saved my bacon all the time when i was an apprentice in high school with no money. I also go there for cheap junk i only intend to use once or twice and in just about all those cases i feel i have more than gotten my moneys worth. I appreciate high quality professional tools, but i dont have a problem with HF. Honestly, if i was. DIYer, I would probably be there far more often.

[@ChrisTheBmxGuy]

Those icon hose picks are awesome. So awesome that 2 of them disappeared out of my box and never seen again 🤣 i dont think there's much wrong with harbor freight tools. There's certain things I dont go there for such as precision tools, punches, files, and ratchets. I absolutely hammer their 3/8 sockets and yet to have one break using them on my Cornwell rebrand IR9000 1/2 inch impact. Certain hand tools a splurge on every now and then on the tool truck but that gets expensive quick and imo the price isn't worth it most of the time.

[@chrissatterwhite711]

I remember when I first started working on cars as a teenager I only bought 1/2 stuff because I thought it was the best by default. Now I never use it unless I have to lol. I use 3/8 and 1/4 stuff for almost everything

[@ClarkBoyzRacing]

As a comebacker to the auto repair business, and I have used harbor freight tools to build and maintain my son's racecar for the past six years. I can say I'm not opposed to or worry about using icon or Pittsburgh daily in the profession. I sold majority of my Mac and Snap-On stuff 13 years ago when i left the repair industry due to my wife having medical troubles with her pregnancy. I guess im just a small town lug that doesn't understand the hate / debate about hf and tool truck stuff. They both get the job done.

[@ferratilis]

Did not know that HF CEO was anti 2A. I will definitely reconsider buying stuff there. Thanks

[@CPthetooladdict]

Absolutely look up the act blue group eric smidt. I have a video on my members only section, which shows the whole liberal donations list of corruption

[@CPthetooladdict]

www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/eric-smidt.asp?cycle=16

[@dennisdavila8874]

I can't lie that the EpAuto is a great deal, but I recently saw a video of somebody opening both ratchets up and looking at the internals. The EpAuto, while similar to the icon, had a smaller pawl, and maybe even two very small pawls (If I remember correctly) while the Icon had a single pawl that was a decent size. In the video, the reviewer concluded that the Icon looks like it'd hold up a lot more than the EpAuto.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thats subjective I have a video coming out that will break this down more.. it's hard to argue the price for 40 bucks vs 200 it's 3x the price I don't think it's 3x the tool.

[@samgage2294]

I can’t really talk because I’m a DIY guy not working in a big shop, I just got seven icon ratchets, of course with lifetime warranty for less than $200 because at this moment ratchets at icon are 40% off

[@CPthetooladdict]

And you never have used anything great, so you're right. Your opinion is pretty much nullified.

[@davep4440]

22 years turning wrenches, I'm done with tool trucks! Inevitably the tool breaks the day after the truck is at the shop, the next week the tool is not on the truck, two weeks after that the tool MIGHT show up. Ain't nobody got time for that!!!The amount of Harbor Freight tools in my box has increased over the years as I wait for my "quality" replacements to arrive several weeks later. Why would I pay 3-4 times as much for the same warranty and poorer quality service?! Don't even get me started on the tool boxes! 10k plus in debt on a home for your tools?! But whatever floats yer boat right?

[@roninbushito]

Your abusing the tools none of my snapon has ever broken also nobody pays full list on snapon boxes

[@bradfaught1695]

I feel like you should of snapped a extension on the quarter inch rachet, just so it was clear that their wasn't any tomfoolery. I just went into harbor freight for the first time in over a year and grabbed a few things. They had some very nice looking xl racheting wrenches 20-25mm. $200 was a little steep though.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I should have I will do it the next video

[@Bakedfrijoless]

”For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?“ Mark‬ ‭8‬:‭36‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”John‬3‬:‭16‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.”Romans‬10‬:‭9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

[@WalkerKlondyke]

Well here's the real test, break the ratchets and go see what the warranty process is like in the store, and through Scamazon.

[@CPthetooladdict]

For 35 dollars I can by 4 sets and still be money ahead without warranty just saying

[@ponyboy481]

@@CPthetooladdict an a nice pile of broken tools 😏

[@goldentrucker7921]

You literally walk in and get a new one. They scan it, and you leave.

[@andyhedges5705]

As a Brit, it is so important to support U.S. manufacturing. We were hollowed out as a serious manufacturing base and de-industrialisation is no fun. CP may disagree, but if you understanbly can't. Justify snappy or Mac go Williams, proto, Wright etc. Wilde , Lang and maybe should also be supported. Bad money drives out good money. Graham's Rule applies to tools.

[@andyhedges5705]

Gresham not Graham. Mayhew not maybe. Bloody autocorrect!!!

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

$35 is a steal for them EPautos. Great vid and info man!

[@CPthetooladdict]

Man what a honor love your stuff appreciate your vids Chris you are awesome means a lot coming from you!!

[@swif31]

Good video CP. But my icon comfort grip 3/8 is getting the job done for me and I haven’t had a need to replace it with another brand. I kinda want to get the 3/8 Wera zyclop set bcuz of the cool green color but I’ll keep waiting until this icon gives up. Love your videos

[@CPthetooladdict]

I'm happy your happy I have no problem with your choice I support you ❤️

[@jordanallen3982]

Good video.. I do like my icon flex head ratchets quite a bit for the price and warranty. I have some snap on ones as well. I typically reach for the icons though. Had to warranty the 1/4 icon after a motor swap.. no questions asked just grabbed one and left. I believe there was a recall on the 1st generation ones. Had to warranty some snap on side cutters and wait 3 weeks and I don't think the guy was thrilled about me swapping them out

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thanks for sharing

[@123donmaster]

Sounds like you have a scummy snapon dealer. They normally warranty those kinda tools no questions asked

[@WVXL64]

Comparing prices is kinda misleading. It's not just "mark up" because they want to make money. The Harbor Freight stuff has to cost more because they have to pay for the brick and mortar store, pay employees, management, all the bills that go along with a physical store, computer systems, etc., where the EV Auto (or whatever it was called) is most likely completely virtual and drop shipped directly from a manufacturer or importers warehouse. It's cheaper because there is no overhead.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yes drop shipped from the same manufacturer as harbor freight way to contradict the statement lol

[@chrisshulick2580]

I feel like you could hold most ratchets up and you could see a resemblance in all of them it doesn’t mean they came from the same company maybe someone is just getting a kickback if they sell the other set if I break one of those Amazon tools they’re not just gonna be replaced

[@CPthetooladdict]

Same manufacturer 1000%

[@sirkdopsah1081]

So anyone who bought that Ep Auto ratchet set when you warranty that ratchet they'll just send you an Icon as replacement😂

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lmao

[@larryharry7221]

The 1st amendment defines us. The 2nd amendment guarantees it.

[@CPthetooladdict]

💯

[@Thumper68]

I’ll keep using my Pittsburgh ones I have for years that are way cheaper then icons and haven’t failed me yet with same warranty.😂

[@CPthetooladdict]

Awesome love it

[@XavierG7692]

So which tool brand would you recommend for a DIY home mechanic? I still have my old USA craftsman set but ratchets are pretty outdated. Nice thing about HF is you can walk in to exchange it if it breaks. New Craftsman stuff seems to be same quality as HF. Tekton is another option but online only. Also have a DeWalt 192 piece set that I keep in my truck. All made in Taiwan.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I personally like capri Tekton dynamic sunex MichaelPro these companies all charge fair prices and great online warranty services means I never have to waste my time buy and warranty with a click and a picture

[@yellowtomato]

Williams Snap-On. Not the tool truck.

[@XavierG7692]

@@paedahe4975 same thing I've been doing, keeping my 25+ year old cars running lol

[@XavierG7692]

@@CPthetooladdict any experience with the new Craftsman V-series (Facom)? I was looking forward to them but disappointed how they released the line and the limited sets and skipped sizes on the wrenches.

[@yellowtomato]

@@kwmiked Williams Taiwan versus Bluepoint Taiwan. I think Snap-On changes the label for those brands. Same plant in Taiwan.

[@andrewbooher1106]

Idk why people compare the two. They are in a different ball park. A 3/8s snap on ratchet cost more then the 3 items you bought at harbor freight. Let's compare a lambo to a civic. Great idea.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Agreed 1000%

[@latindoggy8059]

So what you’re saying is that every single time they do an update fixing the current problem you have to go out of your way and destroy your tools and bring the entire set back so messed up but they’re forced to just give you the new generation???? As per your instructions

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yep unfortunately

[@unclejoe6811]

Buy the icon sockets, they are like butter...as soft as butter

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yuck lol

[@redvision350]

I found out the hard way that if you want to warranty ONE socket, you must bring in the WHOLE set. Well I lost a socket so guess what? Can't get it warrantied. Never experienced that before at HF, for non-Icon tools it's a trouble free swap out.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Pretty dumb if you ask me and very poor warranty protocol

[@justinklein2982]

Thank you for the info on his anti 2A stance. That alone is enough to keep me out of his chain.

[@cherylalastra]

love and support Cp🙏💜

[@ronbegnaud8520]

Dude, claims that they are identical, then shows that they really aren’t conspiracy that gotta love them

[@CPthetooladdict]

That's what every idiot says about harbor freight vs. snap-on, at least these are actually built in the same factory 🤡

[@austinsalyer8966]

If you do your own research into the manufacturing side of things you can find where this is a design by harbor freight and the production of the tools are set for them alone but it is common practice in over seas companies to take products and sell them to companies at a reduced rate to make a side buck. When we pay for a icon we are not just paying for the tool. It’s the manufacturing of the tooling it takes to make them, the cost of labor, shipping, raw materials and design. I’m not at all saying that cp didn’t do his research, he’s coming at this from a consumer perspective and he’s absolutely right in this situation. He is also a high end tool user with a history of making money with his tools.

[@CPthetooladdict]

This is a 100% true positive comment I did this to prove a point and you validated it splendidly these are not 100% spot on but that's how hf likes to market things by a vague comparison so I felt the need to do the same. Appreciate the time!!

[@forgottenman749]

I own Gear Wrench ratchets, and they have been working for me just fine.

[@FluffyMexicanik]

Dude...100k??? Wtf did u not gain subs dramatically...wow this should have put u at 20k easily...they just dont know the knowledge they are missing out on

[@CPthetooladdict]

1500 subs in 11 days is pretty legit I had 15k lol trust me it's like playing golf the amount over time will come always does brother!! I

[@Dumas-gu4sb]

So those head sizes are different, too. Also, I'm a machanic, and I have snap on, mac, and every other brand... I have a harbor frieght ratchet that I have been using every day for over 5 years. It still works great today. Also, if you think snap on doesn't rebrand other peoples ideas and tools, you're lying to yourself.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lmao 👌

[@Dumas-gu4sb]

@CPthetooladdict A quick google search will show you all their apparent companies... but hey, you seem like the type to say Mac is better than dewalt, whose better than craftsman, whose better than.... 🤦they're all owned by the same company, Stanley Black & Decker....

[@futrellgarage9153]

KZbin and Google aren't exactly 2A friendly either.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Nope sure aren't

[@tommycofield7434]

I a harbor freight customer, been one for a long time. Even have the card.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Sorry for your loss?

[@thelegionoftools]

I have never seen a guideline for comments in a KZbin Channel, but I understand. I also work on the Beretta9MMUSA Channel. You do good work here Sir, as I just started a Tool Channel too. Stay Safe out there Gents. Good to hear you back the 2A! Another Awesome thing about you! It matters my friend. B9USA Sr….. Rick.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Well said

[@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill]

Been researching brands a bit. Im trying to figure out what is a good brand to go with for a decent mechanics set. Not planning on paying Snap-on/Mac price. IF you got maybe a top five picks you would go with for brands, that would be awesome. So I guess Im looking for a good mid to near top quality that wont break the bank that is a good option that isnt over the top in price. Was watching Project Farms channel, where he breaks/torture tests many brands. Seems almost all brands have weakness in either their wrenches and drives. Mostly done craftsman, and Its got me by, but want decent set that will hold up that is bigger. Seems many are being made by same makers with slight differences in looks. What do you think of the Duralast tools from AutoZone?

[@epaequalsgay5777]

Gear wrench, capri, tekton, sunex, are all good quality brands in my experience been a heavy equipment tech for 5 years, started out with the above brands and have bought snap on since, but there wasn’t a thing wrong with the other brands I just wanted to “spoil myself”

[@danielsantos8625]

Hmm, I was going to stick with my 1950’s craftsman…but for 35 bucks…I think I’m getin me a new toy 😂

[@CPthetooladdict]

Definitely 😜

[@brodyadams04]

I prefer the Springfield flavor, but own a couple Ruger's to. Thanks for the video. Not gonna lie I just ordered one of the EPauto sets to throw in the wife's car so I'd have something to use just in case.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Good choice!

[@bluesky-ud9wg]

But a better car, must be a "Domestic"

[@garrythompson8166]

Icon , defined as a simble, a representation of program, a app . A tool . Not necessarily a tool . But looks like a tool . Save your money buy just once in a republe store. 20% restocking. What you save in price you spend in return trips .

[@CPthetooladdict]

Exactly 💯

[@Sundayfunnies]

CP, you did not burst into flames when you walked into HF???

[@CPthetooladdict]

No, but I needed an overhaul on my sniffer from all the aisa container ship smells lol

[@VolvoGonzo]

When you started talking about the stench I about spit my coffee out

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lol nice

[@phillipdewitt4454]

I would rather buy tools from Amazon or direct from Tekton than HF or a truck. Icanget what I need second day without driving all over town. I have at least 10 rachets so if one breaks I use another. I have many SnapOn and Matco truck tools bought in the 1990’s but it’s been a long time since I stepped on a truck.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thanks for sharing

[@rrt08]

If your in Colorado JAX farm stores carry Tekton.

[@charleslane2735]

Yes I like saving money but I also don't have the time to wait for shipping,so the reason why people are buying the icon has nothing to do with the quality or price,it's just because they don't have time to wait for the shipping and harbor freight usually carries most of their tools in stock at their stores,very rarely do they run out of stock...time is money.

[@douglaspulliam9028]

Hey C.P. Great video! I really don’t use H.F. Tools. When I was coming up in the game, H.F. Was complete junk. The late 99’s early 2k’s. H.F’s tools have improved but I choose to spend my cash elsewhere for much of the reasons you mentioned in the video. Now, I do have and use tools from all manufacturers. Predominantly Snapy-T and Matco. This being said the ICON tool Line is really nice when the price of the item is compared. 40$ compared to 100+$$ is the bottom line for most. Especially the young dudes starting out. I have used and do own a few icon tools and they do hold up and are quite niece. Thanks again for the video!👍🤙

[@lukemartineau8590]

I have used many ICON ratchets/sockets, they were great, I’d buy them over Snap-on or MAC or Matco any day

[@CPthetooladdict]

I returned these. I bought a capri, tone, and astro for the same price as the icon much better quality. The icon is dog shit compared to those so you can have the bottom of the barrel lots better options for the same price! if you are trying to be cheap, stop your hate and ignorant comparisons. snap-on Mac matco and cornwell usa are all superior

[@lukemartineau8590]

@@CPthetooladdict not trying to be a troll, but I have used many icon ratchets and sockets, and I’ve also used snap on, and I went icon over snap on

[@CPthetooladdict]

Icon isn't even close, sorry, but you missed out on much better options and still could have saved money.

[@lukemartineau8590]

@@CPthetooladdict gonna have to agree to disagree 👍🏿

[@cowboy41231]

I’m sorry I’m not on the train for this video, nothing about this was the same, the ratchets the sockets etc, nothing, manufacturer ? No proof… we get it, you don’t like harbor freight…… but the positive I got out of this: “if you icon ratchets and sockets, buy the epautocase for $35 and replace the tools it came with for free 😆 “

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lol good call I'm not hating I said I dislike lol

[@fakenamejones4254]

You say a difference between $35 for the whole epauto kit, and $70 for 2 icon ratchets is worse of a mark up than paying $133 for 1 snap on ratchet. And as tool truck devotees will praise the warranty service their dealers provide, can you not praise the no bullshit warranty service of HF over what your gonna get with epauto? And I must have gotten lucky my icon 1/4 is just as buttery smooth as my snap on 3/8. And they're both better than the craftsmans I started with

[@CPthetooladdict]

I opened it up right on video that thing was terrible I do have bad luck though lol

[@heman85515]

I'll admittedly call myself a harborfreight fan boy. But I've always felt that the icon line was over priced I bought gear wrench instead and have to admit it was a good idea I have one 3/8 drive snap-on set for those hard to reach spots everything else gets a pittsburgh on it the 3/8 swivel head is my go to

[@CPthetooladdict]

Well at least you can admit it and not be ashamed of it so I applaud you for sticking up for what you want!

[@andrewprina931]

“ it’s the same exact thing” “ esauto is better”

[@brandoncampbell3404]

The chrome plating came off the 10mm icon socket cutting my fingers up. Never seen a snap-on do that to me. I have a picture of it but it won't let me load it.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I've heard this alot

[@davidbarnes4900]

Looks like snap on for a tenth of the cost .

[@CPthetooladdict]

You know what they say imitation is the lowest form of flattery!

[@LEAT616]

You should make a video trying to see if the head kit or parts are swapable with snap on. The face plates look the same as the icon.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Definitely will

[@ZetaN7]

A certain mechanic from a certain Japanese car dealership. Exposed this as well. And had the set with the same stamp markings along with the build. I believe their birthday is 01/03/87.

[@IrontechLLC]

Kind of seems like something personal against HF considering every other tool company does the same thing. The icon ratchet looks more closely to a snap on then the one in the video. Been using an icon ratchet for about 6 months now and the only complaint is that it’s easy to accidentally switch directions while using.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Personally, I made that very clear they support anti 2a so yes it is personal I didn't say people shouldn't buy I'm simply informing and giving an option nor did I say the tools were junk even just s another guy talking to fellow Americans. Remember love always wins!! ❤️

[@IrontechLLC]

I do like you’re showing they are rebranded. There should be a standard in the industry that requires tool companies to clearly state by who and where they manufactured.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Agreed its smoke and mirrors and widely know it's not discussed

[@connor3288]

@@CPthetooladdict How are they anti 2a? I mean they kinda sell cases for pew pews.

[@sheerwillsurvival2064]

I just bought the needle nose put them next to my snap on and man the icon are awesome $20 🤓impressed

[@CPthetooladdict]

Glad you like them!

[@willthornton1439]

You just can’t beat HF warranty it’s easy to go swap out for a new item if something happens.

[@CPthetooladdict]

If it works for you it's all that matters brother much love!!

[@connor3288]

It is good, but going forward i think i will buy mostly sunex, maybe some tekton and astro stuff. For me personally, the drive to and from my nearest harbor frieght is 40mins total. With tekton and some others, you just take a pic and send an email, boom, done, 3 or 4 days your new tool comes in mail. We only have so much time in life, why waste any. I also believe in having backup spares for tools, if you break something you can still finish the job whole you wait for replacement tool. The 3/8 dr pittsburg breaker bars are garbage, drive sheared right off. Ratchets seem good imo. Pry bars suck, flex too much.

[@rvierra7235]

Great video, thank you for posting.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Glad you enjoyed it

[@imagrownassman1]

Those ep auto ratchets aren't the same as the ones I reviewed on Amazon a few years ago with pictures. This new iteration uses a swing pawl and the older ep auto/ icon was a floating mechanism. This sucks I was going to get another set too. Glad I got them before they cheapened out an already inexpensive product

[@CPthetooladdict]

Dual pawl isn't cheaper more parts cost more money to make.

[@imagrownassman1]

@@CPthetooladdict that would normally be true. But they have those parts made for a million cheap ratchets which means they are cheap. Swing pawl designs are found in lower quality ratchets like Pittsburgh pro and a million others.

[@CPthetooladdict]

It's funny you believe they are made in a different factory out of different material

[@imagrownassman1]

@@CPthetooladdict ep auto is just a label that contracts these ratchets out to be manufactured. They got in trouble for using the 90th design with the floating pawl, which is a quality mechanism. So they switched to the cheaper lower quality swing pawl design which is hugely abundant and cheap. What part of this aren't you understanding?

[@imagrownassman1]

@@CPthetooladdict Or you could open any quality ratchet from the tool trucks and tell me if they have a swing pawl mechanism. They are low quality and abundant it wouldn't matter if snap on made the swing pawl it still be outdated, cheap, and abundant.

[@Lucky_Logan]

I’ll gladly stick with Harbor Freight/Icon over paying all that extra money for Snap-On, Matco, MAC. Only time I’ll go to Snap-On, Matco, or MAC is for the SPECIALTY tools, I’m about to actually buy the Series 3 US General Toolbox. I prefer the Series 3 over the Icon box. First Icon tools I have bought is the Flex Head 1/4, 3/8, and 1/2. This just sounds like more of a justification of spending more money than they have to

[@CPthetooladdict]

That's because you haven't never used tools professionally pros don't use harbor freight period.

[@Lucky_Logan]

@@CPthetooladdict actually they do. Multiple guys at my shop have started buying Icon. I’ve used “professional” tools myself. You know nothing about me, you don’t know me. You didn’t know that I grew up in a work shop where we put together race cars anywhere from 700 whp to 2000 whp. You sound like the typical Snap-On elitist

[@allen-gt5ng]

I love this he says they are identical but different lol 😆 😂 😅 🤣

[@CPthetooladdict]

Same thing harbor freight does when they compare to snap-on lol

[@georgeferlazzo7936]

Hello again CP Thank you for another Great Video 👍 Thank you for introducing me to EP Auto Tools. Again thank you 😊

[@CPthetooladdict]

No problem 👍

[@douglasmayherjr.5733]

I have Snap On, Mac, Craftsman and some Icon stuff. I think Craftsman really messed up when then sent there tools overseas and abandoned all of the mechanics that used there USA made tools at a responsible price. There is talk they are being made in USA again, time will tell. I do like my Icon Ratchets that I have for the money. Most of my work is mobile, so it’s hard to risk loosing a $200 Snap On Ratchet, would rather lose the Icon or Pittsburg. I don’t work in a Mechanics shop so I don’t have a Tool Truck stopping by for warranty any more. Warranty on the Harbor Freight is a plus for me. Craftsman used to be great when Sears was around, Ace and Lowe’s will warranty the oriental craftsman tools. It’s hard to turn in a USA tool and get a Chinese Replacement, if they do it. I really appreciate the honest review. Thanks for the video.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thank you for the opportunity to share my experience with you!!

[@chuckybaby1973]

First time I have seen any video on this channel and I am a new subscriber. Very impressed with the information presented.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thanks and welcome

[@tommyhinson7494]

Probably the worst review I’ve ever seen. The entire video was about how much this person hates HF. Add that to the fact that most of the things he claimed in the beginning were proven wrong. The was nothing objective and there was zero testing on the materials used. I think I understand why HF doesn’t like him. I give a -3 out of 5 stars on this one.

[@Quietvibes07]

I’m a weekend warrior that maintains my two vehicles. I have a few icon items & a U.S. General 5 drawer cart for 199 bucks. I live 5 minutes away from the store & can warranty anything with no problem. The few snap on things I have acquired are great but once they brake I can’t warranty them. Broke a 1/2” SO breaker bar NOT using a cheater bar and it’s now garbage. For people like me certain things at HF make sense investing in.

[@CPthetooladdict]

You can't warranty them because you have never tried. Maybe you should call the 1800 number they provide for people that don't have dealers. There are actually multiple videos on this topic, and it will be better to complain less. No one, including me, judges you based on the tools you use that's your own insecurities that feel like that.

[@Quietvibes07]

@@CPthetooladdicti have no idea what you’re talking about with the insecurity thing and the complaining thing. I was just sharing my experience.

[@Quietvibes07]

@@CPthetooladdictand of course people judge people based on their tools. You are lying to yourself if you think they don’t. Either consciously or subconsciously, they judge. Whether that bothers people or not is up to them.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I don't judge people. That's not what my channel is about. I think working with everyone is what makes things better and help anyone I can.

[@Quietvibes07]

@@CPthetooladdict Okay good! I don’t even care for HF to be honest but I hate when I hear guys say “Harbor Freight is for people who don’t care about their tools snap on is.” But I’m glad to hear you’re not one of those guys.

[@sirsparksalot]

If you wrap the lens cleaning cloth around the ratchet it protects it from scratches when propping a door open. Best value door prop on the market with an awesome warranty

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lmao 👌 amazing 👏 🤣 😂

[@UtahTrucker]

Great video glad to support a fellow 2A American

[@CPthetooladdict]

Much appreciated

[@justinmize4316]

CP, aren’t the Doye pliers the same as the MAC tool trucks carry?

[@CPthetooladdict]

No the macs are channel lock and faccom

[@suveshsewrajh2083]

Where I am from we use basic tools to which these are great....

[@XX-sz6qh]

I noticed the icons were stiff, my co worker got some and i wanted to test

[@CPthetooladdict]

And what did you think?

[@XX-sz6qh]

@CPthetooladdict they are okay, I tried lubing it for him but it was still stiffer than I'd like. Might be because it's new though, I only ever bought my beginning mechanics stuff from them. If I want a cheap set, I would go with with the 84 tooth gw set, or tekton, but then again it's all preference. I loved my Pittsburgh stuff starting out.

[@XX-sz6qh]

Let me know how you feel about the pliers, I want the slip joint. I have the needle nose 9" slip joint talons that i just got, love them lots but feel bad for cheating on my nws and knipex.

[@coryridder1937]

That epauto looks creepily similar to my Carlyle 3/8" for darn sure

[@randombuilds8336]

I don't own any icon tools. I like tekton for their no skip sets, got a metric set and use them regularly. Even 3 months in a motorcycle shop. I have used the 1/2" sockets in a press with no damage. I've also got a selection of pitsburgh wrenches and sockets incase I need to modify one or take it to the junkyard. I have very few tool truck tools and most of them came from garage sales and flea markets. HF, tekton and others are viable options if you don't want to spend tool truck money. The US general carts are good value for the money, but so are most big box store boxes. I just can't bring myself to spend snapon money for a box, I have a kennedy machinist box, and got lucky and picked up a 44" kennedy maintenance box top and bottom for $200. Best advice I have for someone starting out is buy the HF, tekton etc sets and when you've earned money and broken a few tools start upgrading the tools you break/wear out.

[@DanielDroegeShow]

I don't understand why people pay so much for these tools 2nd hand. They don't transfer warranty or is their some way people get around that?

[@randombuilds8336]

@@DanielDroegeShow I don't onow about current snapon, but I've taken broken rusty old I-beam handled snapon ratchets to the truck in the past and they put new guts in it right there, no charge. But I'll dig through the sockets and ratchets that are all thrown in a box and labelled 50 cents each to find the good brands, so I'm not spending huge amounts on them.

[@timb7328]

Wow thanks for that info. Have you checked if the Icon impact sockets are also made by EP?

[@CPthetooladdict]

They are both made by the sane Taiwanese manufacturer

[@timb7328]

@@CPthetooladdict Good to know, thanks

[@birdie1868]

Those ratchets look nothing alike. Am I missing something here? Mechanic for a decade and use all snap on but have been really impressed with the icon stuff.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lol, nothing alike, the handles are 1000% identical!!! Icon is just another brand nade in the same factory as many so it's nothing special sorry not sorry.

[@robertcollis1732]

I bet his Snap On ratchets would have fit in that tool set as well. He talking about prices, break out some Snap On prices and sell what you get for the same price as the Icon.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thanks for your insecure input

[@jobehoffmeister7122]

Many companies rebrand their tools. Apex tools is a well known company that make a lot of the tools that are rebranded especially as professional tool brand names such as Cornwell, and MATCO as an example.

[@fyler1]

Picked up the EPAuto set after watching this video and I must say that the set is very nice, and the price ($35) is even nicer. Thank you for shedding light on this. I never would've bought Icon tools because I don't see the value, but the EPauto set will definitely get some use.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Totally agree!

[@xaphan8581]

Are they under warranty?

[@fyler1]

@@xaphan8581 I don't recommend using a sub-$40 socket set in a professional setting. I don't believe it has a warranty, but what I use it for (DIY simple auto repairs), I shouldn't have to worry about that.

[@scottstichberry279]

@@xaphan8581 if that set only cost $35 I’m not going to concern myself with a warranty. My time is worth more than that. I’ll just buy another set.

[@lanceh.8537]

What kind of warranty does EPAuto have though? I doubt if I break something I can drive down the street and swap it out. Warranty and convenience gets factored into price as well.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lifetime

[@tpfromcentralpa1692]

I got a 1/4 drive Icon when they first brought them out.............What a POS, ratchet locked up, took it back, gave a new one with no issues, that one did the same, tore it apart and found it had no lube in it. Lubed it up, worked ok. But even with use it would drag way to hard for my tastes, finally gave it to my 4 year old to use for a hammer. We were working on our tractor at the shop and I needed a 1/4" ratchet, my 14 year old picked that one up while my little one was hammering with something else.............Well the stupid thing locked up on me again.........Threw it right in the scrap pile which was in eye sight I was so mad. Later I told my older one, that was a bad idea and should have did that, so we looked for it, never did find it. No Thanks, that is it for Icon for me. We carry cheapo Kobalt tools in our tractor tool boxes, and those piles they call ratchets work better.

[@darronervin7829]

I did pick this kit up from your link below 🔗 Looks like father's day is coming early for my Pop's. 👍

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thanks appreciate the support hope your dad loves it tools are a great gift!!

[@RandysWSG]

Great vid. I picked up a Williams (taiwan made) 3/8 ratchet set for like $35. Exactly the same as my Blue-Point sockets and ratchet.

[@CPthetooladdict]

💯👍👍👍

[@jserj3290]

Thanks for the tip, saving money is saving money!

[@CPthetooladdict]

Happy to help!

[@joujimiichi1]

Can’t remember where I saw this same comparison. Someone else on KZbin did hold those next to each other and did show the same part number stamped in. You can buy koken brand socket sets for about $45 and the equivalent 3/8” ratchet for about $55. With those options I would never do business with HF

[@CPthetooladdict]

1000% agreed with Ko-ken for the win

[@robertv8851]

Thank you cp.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Very welcome

[@DavidDuncanscalemodels]

Harbor Frieght thanks you for spending 100 bucks to complain about them, even tho it burned your nostrils to be in the store.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I cost them more than they made off me lmao it's called a investment genius 🤣