HARBOR FREIGHT NEW ICON TOOLS ARE EXPOSED WHOOPS!! I MADE IT IN AND OUT ALIVE!!

[@brandonerickson4426]

I work as a diesel mechanic and have been abusing my icon sets for two years now and have had not one issue. Everyone can buy what they want im just putting in my two cents having used these tools in my trade and they have performed just as good as any tool truck brand my coworkers have.

[@ReptilianXHologram]

They better than Quinn?

[@joeberry4179]

To all the haters in the world I have agood amount of ICON, only bought with 20% off coupons. I also have Dayton, Craftsman usa Snap on, Diamond and Williams. I appreciate all the tools I have and do not abuse any of them. My worst tool is a good and important as the worst. Be proud of what you have and use it to your best ability, I still enjoy watching your channel weather I agree or not. jb

[@CPthetooladdict]

I love this comment at least you understand it's just my opinion and not a judgment of who anyone is and what tools they buy!! Thank you very much!!

[@nitrorc4life1]

​@@CPthetooladdictI am tired of opinions, I just want the truth and facts.

[@coldasstone16]

@@nitrorc4life1 right? Like as soon as he said "I'm probably going to return them" it told me his mind was made up before it was out of the box. And honestly I used to be a hater of hobo freight but they've really stepped up thier quality even on thier toolboxes... and I'm kinda picky on toolboxes because I build expensive custom boxes for my day job.

[@Trolldaddy5]

​@@coldasstone16he planned on returning them bc he already has multiple of the same tools. He only bought them for the review. And every other reviewer of anything on KZbin does the same thing so they can buy something else and do more videos.

[@MatteBlack93]

I work at a ford body shop, i can see how some snap on, mac tools etc. tools are goof to have. at the same time icon and the lifetime backed warranty is a great option and definitely for a new upcoming technician. i would rather spend less and have a good quality with lifetime over expensive and high apr tool truck pricing. icon is a good brand overall for this field.

[@WorstNightmare420]

@@MatteBlack93 Truth.

[@honky13333]

THEY ARE THE EXACT SAME well mostly, kinda, basically, almost. Lol

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thats how HF compares tools and usually everyone loves it what's wrong? Lmao

[@garycasper2929]

I bet if he would of went ahead and tried swapping out the internals but kept the outside plate the same, it would of transferred over.

[@keithnelson881]

Different handle, different switch, different head size, different finish, are they made in the same factory? Maybe, I'd even say probably. But they are not identical, merely similar

[@rshinn8776]

@honky13333 I saw the old style, and they were the exact same, minus the stamped icon logo on the head vs the etched epauto.

[@Theguyinthefez]

@@rshinn8776 Then maybe he should have reached out to someone that actually had the old style instead of waste his time showing off two superficially different tools.

[@XavierG7692]

So which tool brand would you recommend for a DIY home mechanic? I still have my old USA craftsman set but ratchets are pretty outdated. Nice thing about HF is you can walk in to exchange it if it breaks. New Craftsman stuff seems to be same quality as HF. Tekton is another option but online only. Also have a DeWalt 192 piece set that I keep in my truck. All made in Taiwan.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I personally like capri Tekton dynamic sunex MichaelPro these companies all charge fair prices and great online warranty services means I never have to waste my time buy and warranty with a click and a picture

[@yellowtomato]

Williams Snap-On. Not the tool truck.

[@XavierG7692]

@@paedahe4975 same thing I've been doing, keeping my 25+ year old cars running lol

[@XavierG7692]

@@CPthetooladdict any experience with the new Craftsman V-series (Facom)? I was looking forward to them but disappointed how they released the line and the limited sets and skipped sizes on the wrenches.

[@yellowtomato]

@@kwmiked Williams Taiwan versus Bluepoint Taiwan. I think Snap-On changes the label for those brands. Same plant in Taiwan.

[@ClarkBoyzRacing]

As a comebacker to the auto repair business, and I have used harbor freight tools to build and maintain my son's racecar for the past six years. I can say I'm not opposed to or worry about using icon or Pittsburgh daily in the profession. I sold majority of my Mac and Snap-On stuff 13 years ago when i left the repair industry due to my wife having medical troubles with her pregnancy. I guess im just a small town lug that doesn't understand the hate / debate about hf and tool truck stuff. They both get the job done.

[@brandoncampbell3404]

The chrome plating came off the 10mm icon socket cutting my fingers up. Never seen a snap-on do that to me. I have a picture of it but it won't let me load it.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I've heard this alot

[@VB-bk1lh]

I think the one thing everyone here is missing is that all off these Asian ratchets are to some degree a Snap On Knock off. They're an obvious copy of the original Snap On design developed over 70 years ago. The key to whether or not these cheaper ratchets are worth owning is whether or not they hold up to daily use in the real world. Any manufacturer can copy a design or blueprint but if its made from substandard materials or fails to follow the same design tolerances its either going to fail or simply fail to perform at the same level of the original. Before I'd spend $70 on two ratchets from Harbor Freight, or any amount for a cheap Chinese tool I'd opt for a good used Snap On, Mac, Matco, or even Craftsman. I've pretty much built up the better part of my tool collection over the years by buying used, most of which I acquired at local flea markets, estate sales, and yard sales. HF has a purpose, but I can't see them as a top quality tool supplier. I've always used HF tools as sort of the disposable tools in my tool box, their the wrenches that you grind or weld on to make a special too, their the tools you use when your working on a boat and likely to drop them into the deep. I don't see them as a good place to spend real money on tools that are nothing but polished Chinese copies.

[@CPthetooladdict]

It's so funny that only very few can understand like you!!

[@hardcore4476]

So the quality between Taiwanese and Chinese tools is astounding. Much better quality made in Taiwan.

[@ronportillo3851]

@VB-bk1lh all steal is from China.

[@mustangrebuilder]

Just wanted to say thanks and who makes the best most reasonable rebranded deep sockets

[@CPthetooladdict]

Sunex

[@donusmc1]

Harbor freight is like 1/5 the cost of snap on. No comparison. Big surprise there. I buy all my tools from harbor freight and haven’t broken a single one yet and have been able to complete every single task while keeping a lot more of my hard earned cash and if one ever does break I can return it for a new one free of charge with no hassle.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thanks for sharing love always wins ♥️

[@rafaelquinones504]

Also no waiting for the truck to come around!

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

HarborFreight has changed. I use to consider them one time use only . But for true pros I would stick name brands .But honestly it seems everything is cheaper these days. I think for the diy guy or anyone not worshiping tools some of these if not most are fine .

[@matthew5471]

Agreed. I'm a pro tech who has been quite happy with my icon gear. Only had to replace a single chrome socket i used a gun on, replaced over a lunch break no questions asked. Grew up with my dad going to HF back in the 90's and lemme tell you, it was utter cheap-azz dog shiite back then. Times have changed. I don't take crap based on the name stamped on my tools, especially from the old timer in the shop who still owes $6k for his outdated scanner he never uses but pays $100/week for. Icon simply works, and works well enough for a pro. Also, we lost our snappy guy due to problems with corporate, so the old timer is out of luck when all his shiite breaks. The warranty is only as good as the guy on the truck and when the guy on the truck quits; well there is no guarantee corporate will fill that slot. S-O hasn't visited out shop in 4 months. We have multiple guys with piles of warranty products needed. So exactly what are you paying 4-6X for?

[@Bakedfrijoless]

”For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?“ Mark‬ ‭8‬:‭36‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”John‬3‬:‭16‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.”Romans‬10‬:‭9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

@@Bakedfrijoless why ? Are there not enough religious sites to post this on ?

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

@@matthew5471 eBay has a ton of obsolete SO scanners for sale . I guess they want to try anything to recoup some cash for the next payment.

[@JAYJAYJAY53]

I actually looked into some of those scanners. They are actually worthless in my opinion. And to make matters worse these sellers want to sell the keys piecemeal. I am diy so I bought a launch.

[@Dumas-gu4sb]

So those head sizes are different, too. Also, I'm a machanic, and I have snap on, mac, and every other brand... I have a harbor frieght ratchet that I have been using every day for over 5 years. It still works great today. Also, if you think snap on doesn't rebrand other peoples ideas and tools, you're lying to yourself.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lmao 👌

[@Dumas-gu4sb]

@CPthetooladdict A quick google search will show you all their apparent companies... but hey, you seem like the type to say Mac is better than dewalt, whose better than craftsman, whose better than.... 🤦they're all owned by the same company, Stanley Black & Decker....

[@timb7328]

Wow thanks for that info. Have you checked if the Icon impact sockets are also made by EP?

[@CPthetooladdict]

They are both made by the sane Taiwanese manufacturer

[@timb7328]

@@CPthetooladdict Good to know, thanks

[@lanceh.8537]

What kind of warranty does EPAuto have though? I doubt if I break something I can drive down the street and swap it out. Warranty and convenience gets factored into price as well.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lifetime

[@513Garage]

Icon and Pitrsburgh ratchets both have lifetime warranties that are hassle free. That kit is a good deal though but I bet there is no warranty

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lifetime warranty on.those tools as well

[@Skilful_basics8]

What hand tool doesn’t have lifetime warranty?. You won’t sell a hand tool without one

[@jonruby1755]

Does this other brand come with a lifetime warranty?

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yes

[@Bullfighter6262]

you are hilarious, you keep saying these tool are identical and then you prove yourself wrong and then you repeat the identical speech and prove yourself wrong again in this short video. I love it. You are hilarious. enjoyed this very much, looking forward to more videos. keep up the good work

[@CPthetooladdict]

It's a harbor freight comparison that's what they do with snap-on all the time. They had to have some fun!! Lol

[@HauntedBranch]

CP The Tool Addict any suggestions for a good set of six point combination wrench set ?

[@CPthetooladdict]

Mac precision torque or capri is what I have been very happy with both!

[@HauntedBranch]

@@CPthetooladdict Thanks for the information I'll look them up.

[@swif31]

Good video CP. But my icon comfort grip 3/8 is getting the job done for me and I haven’t had a need to replace it with another brand. I kinda want to get the 3/8 Wera zyclop set bcuz of the cool green color but I’ll keep waiting until this icon gives up. Love your videos

[@CPthetooladdict]

I'm happy your happy I have no problem with your choice I support you ❤️

[@Hill_Billy_Without_A_Hill]

Been researching brands a bit. Im trying to figure out what is a good brand to go with for a decent mechanics set. Not planning on paying Snap-on/Mac price. IF you got maybe a top five picks you would go with for brands, that would be awesome. So I guess Im looking for a good mid to near top quality that wont break the bank that is a good option that isnt over the top in price. Was watching Project Farms channel, where he breaks/torture tests many brands. Seems almost all brands have weakness in either their wrenches and drives. Mostly done craftsman, and Its got me by, but want decent set that will hold up that is bigger. Seems many are being made by same makers with slight differences in looks. What do you think of the Duralast tools from AutoZone?

[@epaequalsgay5777]

Gear wrench, capri, tekton, sunex, are all good quality brands in my experience been a heavy equipment tech for 5 years, started out with the above brands and have bought snap on since, but there wasn’t a thing wrong with the other brands I just wanted to “spoil myself”

[@stangman1268]

only problem with the EPauto where are you going to return it when it breaks? something to think about?,i have an allen socket set by EPauto seems ok,only icon tools i own are the 1/4 deep set that are all right but i don't like the extra material that doesn't allow some studs to go in deeper.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I've returned and warranted through Amazon but they have a address listed on the link in my description also.

[@25centsapop]

CP opened the doors to that HF and the winds whispered **just as gooooddddd** He knew he was in for the long haul

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lmao love this comment

[@WVXL64]

Comparing prices is kinda misleading. It's not just "mark up" because they want to make money. The Harbor Freight stuff has to cost more because they have to pay for the brick and mortar store, pay employees, management, all the bills that go along with a physical store, computer systems, etc., where the EV Auto (or whatever it was called) is most likely completely virtual and drop shipped directly from a manufacturer or importers warehouse. It's cheaper because there is no overhead.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yes drop shipped from the same manufacturer as harbor freight way to contradict the statement lol

[@losmoore3358]

Whats the Epauto's return warranty for broken tools ? Is it lifetime no questions ask like ICON ?

[@CPthetooladdict]

LiFeTiMe WaRrAnTy

[@losmoore3358]

@@CPthetooladdict Thank u for the reply.

[@williamreese2477]

How do we know the metal is the same grade.i have broke some icon but man I was really abusing it

[@justinmize4316]

CP, aren’t the Doye pliers the same as the MAC tool trucks carry?

[@CPthetooladdict]

No the macs are channel lock and faccom

[@JREfunnies]

CP, you did not burst into flames when you walked into HF???

[@CPthetooladdict]

No, but I needed an overhaul on my sniffer from all the aisa container ship smells lol

[@Volvosemitruckmechanic4926]

Can you make a video on icon vs sunex vs capri impact sockets? What makes capri better then sunex? There's not much info out there about sunex vs capri

[@benfarms31]

Woke up from an after work nap to a new CP video, WOOOO!

[@CPthetooladdict]

👋👋👋

[@YuoGotOwn3d]

How's that ep auto/Amazon warranty?

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lifetime

[@ozzysgang7193]

How would you rank the GearWrench 90 tooth ratchets I’ve recently picked some up on sale and they’re great comparing them to my other coworkers who use snap on, Matco and Icon. I did my search and gearwrench was on the top of the list of being great and affordable

[@CPthetooladdict]

6

[@edgee400]

I cannot talk about the supplier for Harbor Freight but at one point I did work for Chervon in their office. What would happen they would put a run of tools and when that run was done the manufacturer would keep the stampings for the gears the bodies and everything and print their own sets at a cheaper price using much cheaper Steel also sometimes at the behest of the company itself they would set two identical sets of tools but paying $1.10 per pound for raw materials compared to 2.80 a pound for materials. same exact tools on the outside and inside. Different names and customers sold to.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yes it's happened to me as well when I was a tool dealer

[@danlsmock]

I was a friend of Allen Smidt and remember well when his son Eric had him removed from the company. Allen never got over that and when he had a heart attack his son never visited him before he passed. Eric bills himself as the founder of HF but in actuality he stole the company from his father. Employees used to be treated well but that changed drastically with Eric and his greed. I will never give them another penny.

[@hardcore4476]

How messed up! Thats ok Eric will catch that Karma one way, one day I’m sure.

[@jacksonbrokaw6493]

Are the sockets icon sockets too?

[@pwrattorney]

I agree, the Icon back-drag - especially on the 1/4’s - is pretty bad; however, I’ve found that after using these for a few hundred rotations in either direction that they become much smoother.

[@drscopeify]

EP Auto has a black case with a full 3/8 set from 8mm to 19mm deep and shallow as well as some SAE and a ratchet and extensions and wobble socket made in Taiwan and I have to tell you its great car kit very small size case with no wasted space, really awesome set. I was able to fit a gear wrench ratchet with a little modification to the case

[@JoeVlachos]

The sockets are different also?

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yes they are

[@redvision350]

I found out the hard way that if you want to warranty ONE socket, you must bring in the WHOLE set. Well I lost a socket so guess what? Can't get it warrantied. Never experienced that before at HF, for non-Icon tools it's a trouble free swap out.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Pretty dumb if you ask me and very poor warranty protocol

[@chrissatterwhite711]

I remember when I first started working on cars as a teenager I only bought 1/2 stuff because I thought it was the best by default. Now I never use it unless I have to lol. I use 3/8 and 1/4 stuff for almost everything

[@davep4440]

22 years turning wrenches, I'm done with tool trucks! Inevitably the tool breaks the day after the truck is at the shop, the next week the tool is not on the truck, two weeks after that the tool MIGHT show up. Ain't nobody got time for that!!!The amount of Harbor Freight tools in my box has increased over the years as I wait for my "quality" replacements to arrive several weeks later. Why would I pay 3-4 times as much for the same warranty and poorer quality service?! Don't even get me started on the tool boxes! 10k plus in debt on a home for your tools?! But whatever floats yer boat right?

[@roninbushitoろうにん]

Your abusing the tools none of my snapon has ever broken also nobody pays full list on snapon boxes

[@kennethclark2329]

Does EpAuto kit have lifetime warranty?

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yes

[@bradfaught1695]

I feel like you should of snapped a extension on the quarter inch rachet, just so it was clear that their wasn't any tomfoolery. I just went into harbor freight for the first time in over a year and grabbed a few things. They had some very nice looking xl racheting wrenches 20-25mm. $200 was a little steep though.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I should have I will do it the next video

[@Bakedfrijoless]

”For what will it profit a man if he gains the whole world, and loses his own soul?“ Mark‬ ‭8‬:‭36‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life.”John‬3‬:‭16‬ ‭NKJV‬‬ “that if you confess with your mouth the Lord Jesus and believe in your heart that God has raised Him from the dead, you will be saved.”Romans‬10‬:‭9‬ ‭NKJV‬‬

[@andrewbooher1106]

Idk why people compare the two. They are in a different ball park. A 3/8s snap on ratchet cost more then the 3 items you bought at harbor freight. Let's compare a lambo to a civic. Great idea.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Agreed 1000%

[@quickdiy8127]

You can buy Matco for cheaper than icon . Matco is also a rebrand company but they use sunex sockets which are a teeny bit nicer than harbor freight imo

[@phillipdewitt4454]

I would rather buy tools from Amazon or direct from Tekton than HF or a truck. Icanget what I need second day without driving all over town. I have at least 10 rachets so if one breaks I use another. I have many SnapOn and Matco truck tools bought in the 1990’s but it’s been a long time since I stepped on a truck.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thanks for sharing

[@rrt08]

If your in Colorado JAX farm stores carry Tekton.

[@merwinjohnston7074]

Nowhere could i find a warranty on the tools

[@futrellgarage9153]

KZbin and Google aren't exactly 2A friendly either.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Nope sure aren't

[@daveheiskala7007]

How about moving the switch on the 1/4 in icon ratchet from the center to on or off.

[@CPthetooladdict]

This mite be the dumbest comment yet to date.

[@jordanallen3982]

Good video.. I do like my icon flex head ratchets quite a bit for the price and warranty. I have some snap on ones as well. I typically reach for the icons though. Had to warranty the 1/4 icon after a motor swap.. no questions asked just grabbed one and left. I believe there was a recall on the 1st generation ones. Had to warranty some snap on side cutters and wait 3 weeks and I don't think the guy was thrilled about me swapping them out

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thanks for sharing

[@123donmaster]

Sounds like you have a scummy snapon dealer. They normally warranty those kinda tools no questions asked

[@natevanlandingham1945]

And I don't buy the icon lines I buy the Doyle pliers and the Pittsburgh Pro tools there less than half the cost of the icon line usually.

[@NoNonsenseKnowHow]

$35 is a steal for them EPautos. Great vid and info man!

[@CPthetooladdict]

Man what a honor love your stuff appreciate your vids Chris you are awesome means a lot coming from you!!

[@dennisdavila8874]

I can't lie that the EpAuto is a great deal, but I recently saw a video of somebody opening both ratchets up and looking at the internals. The EpAuto, while similar to the icon, had a smaller pawl, and maybe even two very small pawls (If I remember correctly) while the Icon had a single pawl that was a decent size. In the video, the reviewer concluded that the Icon looks like it'd hold up a lot more than the EpAuto.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thats subjective I have a video coming out that will break this down more.. it's hard to argue the price for 40 bucks vs 200 it's 3x the price I don't think it's 3x the tool.

[@latindoggy8059]

So what you’re saying is that every single time they do an update fixing the current problem you have to go out of your way and destroy your tools and bring the entire set back so messed up but they’re forced to just give you the new generation???? As per your instructions

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yep unfortunately

[@rileyc6342]

I'll preface this by saying I don't really buy or enjoy harborfreight all that much ( i think the icon hose picks are the only harborfreight in my work box). Harbor freight has its place. My shop doesnt provide cconsumables so the ability to get cheap ones from HF really helps. HF also saved my bacon all the time when i was an apprentice in high school with no money. I also go there for cheap junk i only intend to use once or twice and in just about all those cases i feel i have more than gotten my moneys worth. I appreciate high quality professional tools, but i dont have a problem with HF. Honestly, if i was. DIYer, I would probably be there far more often.

[@ChrisTheBmxGuy]

Those icon hose picks are awesome. So awesome that 2 of them disappeared out of my box and never seen again 🤣 i dont think there's much wrong with harbor freight tools. There's certain things I dont go there for such as precision tools, punches, files, and ratchets. I absolutely hammer their 3/8 sockets and yet to have one break using them on my Cornwell rebrand IR9000 1/2 inch impact. Certain hand tools a splurge on every now and then on the tool truck but that gets expensive quick and imo the price isn't worth it most of the time.

[@octymocty132]

I've imported the icon flush cuts and man are they snap-on through and through I won't purchase snap ever again way I've been treated ( tell me how you lose an account ??? )

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lol they aren't but this video demonstrates the hypocrisy in people thinking blindly that icon is better than snap-on

[@mramseyISU]

I saw someone a while back post a picture or maybe a video of those Bremen vise grips at Harbor Freight stamped with the Milwaukee logo on the handle. I always look when I go in there now to see if I can find a set stamped like that but keep striking out.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I heard those are legit!!

[@evergreenrider]

I use Bremen vise grips everyday at work. Great set of vices for a good price.

[@redlinefreedive6126]

What about sunex, brand. I have all 1/4" and 3/8" sockets, that are impact and chrome combo. Used and still have for 24yrs plus. Harbor Freight has improved there quality. I will agree, they're not up there with snap-on or matco. I have only broken 1 or 2 sunex and a few of Harbor Freight stuff. Just throwing that out there.

[@CPthetooladdict]

My sunex have been solid also

[@chrisshulick2580]

I feel like you could hold most ratchets up and you could see a resemblance in all of them it doesn’t mean they came from the same company maybe someone is just getting a kickback if they sell the other set if I break one of those Amazon tools they’re not just gonna be replaced

[@CPthetooladdict]

Same manufacturer 1000%

[@moo2240]

The icons have a lifetime warranty and the EP Auto has no warranty could that be the difference in price?

[@CPthetooladdict]

Nope they have a lifetime warranty too they're based out of California

[@redchaserguideservice]

Dude, claims that they are identical, then shows that they really aren’t conspiracy that gotta love them

[@CPthetooladdict]

That's what every idiot says about harbor freight vs. snap-on, at least these are actually built in the same factory 🤡

[@thelegionoftools]

I have never seen a guideline for comments in a KZbin Channel, but I understand. I also work on the Beretta9MMUSA Channel. You do good work here Sir, as I just started a Tool Channel too. Stay Safe out there Gents. Good to hear you back the 2A! Another Awesome thing about you! It matters my friend. B9USA Sr….. Rick.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Well said

[@FluffyMexicanik]

Dude...100k??? Wtf did u not gain subs dramatically...wow this should have put u at 20k easily...they just dont know the knowledge they are missing out on

[@CPthetooladdict]

1500 subs in 11 days is pretty legit I had 15k lol trust me it's like playing golf the amount over time will come always does brother!! I

[@EdAtoZ]

CP, have you looked at Tekton new idea ? Tekton has a set of mini extensions set it is a 3pc set one in 1/4 and one in 3/8 dr and one in 1/2 dr/ They look like socket adaptors but they are not. The 3pc set id $20. I got them last week and I really like them.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I have a decent amount of Tekton

[@dennisrieger1508]

Did you see they put rivets on the slides of the icon box

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yes the whole time I was re-watching this I wanted to kick myself for not mentioning it but I think I did an excellent job trolling hf this is the same thing they do to snap on it's so far worth the pay back lol

[@juanocarrillo7137]

Icon not bad tools for the price, I own few of them retches and sockets non of them have fail.

[@pennywise8182]

So were the "guts" different or did I miss it?.....If the levers are reversed the guts have to be different,correct?

[@CPthetooladdict]

I'm going to open them up on a different video

[@suveshsewrajh2083]

Where I am from we use basic tools to which these are great....

[@caleblea8630]

The snap on drawers do the same thing tho????

[@CPthetooladdict]

Who said anything about snap-on I don't own a snap-on box smh

[@caleblea8630]

@@CPthetooladdict no biggie it was just you talking about the icon box on the beginning of the video

[@SalamiCellar]

Whenever i need to fix something in my house i run to harbor freight, their tools have always worked fine for me and at a much cheaper price than lowes or home depot but to each their own

[@Thumper68]

I’ll keep using my Pittsburgh ones I have for years that are way cheaper then icons and haven’t failed me yet with same warranty.😂

[@CPthetooladdict]

Awesome love it

[@Mike-ff7ib]

I have seen mixed reviews with icon tools. Some say the chrome peels, some say that the steel is to soft and even other reviews show the sockets inside finish having tool marks.. Not sure what to belive.

[@CPthetooladdict]

That's a good indication that they are not pro grade and they have qc issues I've found.

[@DavidDuncanscalemodels]

Harbor Frieght thanks you for spending 100 bucks to complain about them, even tho it burned your nostrils to be in the store.

[@CPthetooladdict]

I cost them more than they made off me lmao it's called a investment genius 🤣

[@joujimiichi1]

Can’t remember where I saw this same comparison. Someone else on KZbin did hold those next to each other and did show the same part number stamped in. You can buy koken brand socket sets for about $45 and the equivalent 3/8” ratchet for about $55. With those options I would never do business with HF

[@CPthetooladdict]

1000% agreed with Ko-ken for the win

[@lukemartineau8590]

I have used many ICON ratchets/sockets, they were great, I’d buy them over Snap-on or MAC or Matco any day

[@CPthetooladdict]

I returned these. I bought a capri, tone, and astro for the same price as the icon much better quality. The icon is dog shit compared to those so you can have the bottom of the barrel lots better options for the same price! if you are trying to be cheap, stop your hate and ignorant comparisons. snap-on Mac matco and cornwell usa are all superior

[@lukemartineau8590]

@@CPthetooladdict not trying to be a troll, but I have used many icon ratchets and sockets, and I’ve also used snap on, and I went icon over snap on

[@CPthetooladdict]

Icon isn't even close, sorry, but you missed out on much better options and still could have saved money.

[@lukemartineau8590]

@@CPthetooladdict gonna have to agree to disagree 👍🏿

[@fakenamejones4254]

You say a difference between $35 for the whole epauto kit, and $70 for 2 icon ratchets is worse of a mark up than paying $133 for 1 snap on ratchet. And as tool truck devotees will praise the warranty service their dealers provide, can you not praise the no bullshit warranty service of HF over what your gonna get with epauto? And I must have gotten lucky my icon 1/4 is just as buttery smooth as my snap on 3/8. And they're both better than the craftsmans I started with

[@CPthetooladdict]

I opened it up right on video that thing was terrible I do have bad luck though lol

[@TastyTrees916]

"These are literally the same ratchet, in every, single, way." *proceeds to show the ratchets together with completely different switches*

[@douglaspulliam9028]

Hey C.P. Great video! I really don’t use H.F. Tools. When I was coming up in the game, H.F. Was complete junk. The late 99’s early 2k’s. H.F’s tools have improved but I choose to spend my cash elsewhere for much of the reasons you mentioned in the video. Now, I do have and use tools from all manufacturers. Predominantly Snapy-T and Matco. This being said the ICON tool Line is really nice when the price of the item is compared. 40$ compared to 100+$$ is the bottom line for most. Especially the young dudes starting out. I have used and do own a few icon tools and they do hold up and are quite niece. Thanks again for the video!👍🤙

[@chuckybaby1973]

First time I have seen any video on this channel and I am a new subscriber. Very impressed with the information presented.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thanks and welcome

[@WalkerKlondyke]

Well here's the real test, break the ratchets and go see what the warranty process is like in the store, and through Scamazon.

[@CPthetooladdict]

For 35 dollars I can by 4 sets and still be money ahead without warranty just saying

[@ponyboy481]

@@CPthetooladdict an a nice pile of broken tools 😏

[@goldentrucker7921]

You literally walk in and get a new one. They scan it, and you leave.

[@ferratilis]

Did not know that HF CEO was anti 2A. I will definitely reconsider buying stuff there. Thanks

[@CPthetooladdict]

Absolutely look up the act blue group eric smidt. I have a video on my members only section, which shows the whole liberal donations list of corruption

[@CPthetooladdict]

www.campaignmoney.com/political/contributions/eric-smidt.asp?cycle=16

[@chrisbailey518]

So... You said it's the exact same then said it was different. Then compared the stiffness of the icon to the smoothness of the other. Is it the same? It's hard to follow. I don't love HF. I don't hate it either. I wouldn't compare anything they have to my Matco tools. It's comparing hand grenades to nukes.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Follow up video will come it's same manufacturer 100%

[@Bowhunterohio]

I bought that EP Auto set off of Amazon several years back and it was junk. The sockets anyway. On the inside of just about every socket was a slight burr. Not sure if it was from the chroming process or the metal itself from the socket. I just know those sockets was tough to put on fasteners. Luckily I only got this set for my 13 year old son to start out with his tool collection. I was really disappointed. It could have been a quality issue but either way I wasn’t pleased.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Definitely not the same set. Now you sure it wasn't shitsburg? Lol

[@andrej2321]

So what you are saying is that you’d rather have a neighborhood brick and mortar store selling somewhat subpar but good value tools?

[@CPthetooladdict]

No that's not what I'm saying 😒

[@cherylalastra]

love and support Cp🙏💜

[@mikehoncho6489]

You mean to tell me amazon has cheap tools?

[@RandysWSG]

Great vid. I picked up a Williams (taiwan made) 3/8 ratchet set for like $35. Exactly the same as my Blue-Point sockets and ratchet.

[@CPthetooladdict]

💯👍👍👍

[@eliteexposure5594]

But strap on does this with willians etc.? Then upsells it too, thats ok when theyre made in the usa?

[@CPthetooladdict]

Very little of that product is sold the same do more research stop repeating trash you hear.

[@ZetaN7]

A certain mechanic from a certain Japanese car dealership. Exposed this as well. And had the set with the same stamp markings along with the build. I believe their birthday is 01/03/87.

[@georgeferlazzo7936]

Hello again CP Thank you for another Great Video 👍 Thank you for introducing me to EP Auto Tools. Again thank you 😊

[@CPthetooladdict]

No problem 👍

[@hachi666roku]

Can’t go wrong with icon tools and with the money saved buy the meanest breakerbars and wrenches Mac/ SO/ Matco can offer. Perfect mix of duty and pricepoint. Silicone grease does wonders vs that olive oil the Icon ratchets have stock

[@CPthetooladdict]

Thanks for the tips!

[@tommycofield7434]

I a harbor freight customer, been one for a long time. Even have the card.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Sorry for your loss?

[@LEAT616]

You should make a video trying to see if the head kit or parts are swapable with snap on. The face plates look the same as the icon.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Definitely will

[@thetravi1348]

I saw the mrsub short on the ratchets. So I bought Epauto just to see if it was true. Only problem is, I don’t have any icon ratchets. So far they are nothing like my gearwrench, tekton, olsa, etc. I must say, the Epauto sockets in that set are identical to the olsa sockets. A lot of tools are shared through other tool companies. Like gearwrench, Sata, Matco, are almost positively out of the same factory. Apex tools.

[@CPthetooladdict]

💯 brother appreciate the great comment!!

[@brendangriffin1791]

Is that a rugar max 9 I see there

[@CPthetooladdict]

Lcp 2 my pocket rocket lol

[@rogerp4197]

I could be wrong i heard hf owns a part of snap on or at least shares

[@CPthetooladdict]

Yes you are mistaken

[@josepheaton4874]

Honestly you could probably dig up dirt on any CEO of the giant tool companies. As for rebranding all these companies do rebranding that nothing new. You can walk into harbor freight and get it warrantied so why would you wand to deal with scamazon

[@forgottenman749]

I own Gear Wrench ratchets, and they have been working for me just fine.

[@brodyadams04]

I prefer the Springfield flavor, but own a couple Ruger's to. Thanks for the video. Not gonna lie I just ordered one of the EPauto sets to throw in the wife's car so I'd have something to use just in case.

[@CPthetooladdict]

Good choice!

[@bluesky-ud9wg]

But a better car, must be a "Domestic"

[@charleslane2735]

Yes I like saving money but I also don't have the time to wait for shipping,so the reason why people are buying the icon has nothing to do with the quality or price,it's just because they don't have time to wait for the shipping and harbor freight usually carries most of their tools in stock at their stores,very rarely do they run out of stock...time is money.

[@nobuddyimportant2106]

CP, love your videos brother. You give us facts first then your opinion. I agree with for the most part....Snap on, Mac, Matco quality and strength are unmatched. Been a heavy truck mechanic for 30ish years. Some HF tools serve a great purpose, some I wouldn't dare to experiment with. Anyways, what's your knowledge/opinion about Vevor tools????

[@CPthetooladdict]

I appreciate that