The iconic style of Siouxsie Sioux - the goth fashion icon of the 80s

[@rgwebb5165]

Kate Bush, Siouxsie, Annie Lennox, were given credit for challenging feminine archetypes. Grace Jones deserves credit for doing the same.

[@imelascape]

True! I plan on making a video about Grace Jones at some point!

[@markc-ru4qz]

Except for Grace Jones they are all indebted to Siouxsie who did it all first and did it better than all of them. Annie Lennox dismissed Siouxsie once and I have never forgiven her for it. I love Grace and Kate to bits!

[@andrewgarrett3555]

Kate Bush is not indebted to Siouxsie. Madonna, Cyndi Lauper, Annie Lennox, and too many others to mention, however...

[@andrewgarrett3555]

@markc-ru4qz , when was this? Do you know of a certain interview? It would definitely cool me on Lennox as well. I've read the Steven Severin cannot stand her.

[@insaynt9924]

Not to mention Joan Jett.

[@mattharrison5068]

Hello! I'm 50 now, still follow the bands (I have cure tickets next month can't wait) - I just want to point out this video is historically ACCURATE. She explains what goth means, the look but also the philosophy behind it, it's affect on music history, etc. in greater detail than most other "what is goth" videos do. Big thumbs up. Even includes the first image of Siouxsie I ever saw :)

[@imelascape]

I'm so glad you enjoyed the video! Have fun at the concert :D

[@chevjustchev]

Found this by chance, what a great mini documentary. Thanks for putting this together :)

[@dominica4799]

I love her dress style it's so awesome. Especially the big fuzzy hair

[@rscuris]

Great video. As an original Trad Goth I appreciate your presentation focused on the rebel aspects of the look

[@sapphic.flower]

Exciting to find a fashion channel that has a natural interest in more eclectic and alternative style! Great video :)

[@teresathomley3703]

Siouxsie is amazing- great great study. Thank you. Keep up the good work!!

[@tomsanders2094]

This was excellent, the psychology and roots explored to the origin of this particular style was so professionally made, you are a born presenter and I'm now subscribed to you. Siouxsies unique style is so beautiful along with the music, she and the band are sheer individual perfection. I've been a fan of SATB for a long time now and got to see Siouxsie in 2007 in Camden's Roundhouse during the promotion of her solo album Mantaray and her style is just as unique now as it is through any decade. Thanks for such a great informative video 💜

[@imelascape]

thank you so much !! :D

[@KaiDecadence]

This was a neat analysis video. Siouxsie definitely had a very unique and striking style and though she didn't want to be tied down to the goth scene (which to be fair, her band only ever did one full-on goth album -"Juju", they moved on from it after occasionally doing a goth song or two - mainly in Tinderbox-), it's not surprising that she became an inspiration for the 80s goth look that others took inspiration from, she was just that striking. Regardless, it's clear that she's an alternative icon for sure and she really did carve out a legacy that will never be forgotten.

[@Ritff666l-e9e]

Your generation styled like how we grew up is funny

[@danielcornwall1585]

I find the eyeliner to be similar to that of a Secretary Bird: a mostly -flightless predatory bird which kicks it prey to death. Very cool.

[@aflakeofseaglass]

I look forward to your future video about the new romantics!!! I really enjoyed this one

[@dkilan_ljane]

She is and always has been a queen! I saw her play more times than I can count! No one can compare to her! Great videos. 🖤

[@Alt_Bettyy]

This video was really good on the history of Siouxsie Sioux, and how she evolved into who we know of today. One of my favorite bands and I have so much love for the music and Siouxise. And talking about the subculture. 🖤🦇

[@Ritff666l-e9e]

Yall copied how we grew up

[@Alt_Bettyy]

​@Ritff666l-e9e Y'all? I mean I'm an 80's kid. So I have zero idea what you mean by this comment. How old are you?

[@TheMysteryMachine]

Siouxsie is like my mother. She taught me so much. I got into almost EVERYTHING because of her. From the age of 11 she has been a guiding force. Long Live the Queen.

[@rodgilbert5128]

Very well presented! Really enjoyed this! Brilliantly put together with great facts, history and photos! ❤

[@imelascape]

Thank you :D

[@Colin-ro6lh]

Siouxsie and the Banshees were first band i ever saw live age 13 in 1978 about a month before the Scream came out.

[@youjoker9647]

No mention of Louise Brooks influence on Siouxsie?

[@andrewgarrett3555]

Or Theda Bera.

[@BrandiRayburn]

siouxsie always had such a unique and striking style!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i like it!!!!!

[@CarinaWestling]

Good analysis and research. Refreshing.

[@jonfletcher147]

You and Siouxsie are very beautiful

[@DanielPadilla-jt2ow]

I like your style and it is a great job on Sioux Kudos🎉😎🙀

[@GremlinSpike69]

Its interesting to begin to see what generations that were not there at all are beginning to think about a period that I lived through. Like that line about the 80's being an era of positivity or something like that. That certainly was not the way that it felt from the alternative trenches. I wonder what responsibility those of us that were there have to set records straight.

[@RnR-Rebel]

I feel we have a great responsibility to pass on the truth! So sick of people using google to makeup fake 💩!

[@Ritff666l-e9e]

So much is being rewritten About ALL Cultures we grew up in I just laugh at it at this point

[@RnR-Rebel]

@@Ritff666l-e9e - We shouldn’t be laughing (although it’s funny in a way) as that’s how humanity is bound to make the same mistakes. Was actually talking about this w/ a Gen X & Gen Alpha who both brought up how stupid it is; at least some have brains! 😊

[@jonfletcher147]

PS I'm from England......I could listen to you all night

[@tomsanders2094]

I never knew she had such a respected eye infection must've been all that heavy make up! I'm joking but the opening title has a very funny typo!

[@imelascape]

oooooops I missed that!

[@CatchRin-Stalled]

@@imelascape Yes, a double typo.

[@vintagebilly.uk..9005]

I grew up in the 70s I loved her(still do) she was a force for women in the punk era

[@saintgeorge6706]

The STYE of SIOUXISE

[@RVS-pj6bd]

Very well put video. Comprehensive research and presentation!

[@simongodfrey3765]

Really well done. Thank-you

[@demonicastar]

Just discovered your channel and I gotta say great job 👏, I'm hooked.

[@angelvision555]

i love your outfit

[@BugGirl]

Nice video.

[@ericbeck6390]

very cool - great job!

[@DennisNelson-ee2il]

Much prefer the 80s goth style,but then again I am nearly 60.And your look very much reminds me of the goth girls I knew from the 80s.Someone mentioned feminine architype's,I would put Nico as one,she I think maybe the first.

[@MichaelVonEerie]

Good video and I love your accent

[@matthewbeumer3168]

Siouxsie is an icon an image from the past and an image from the future!

[@paulashe61]

Siouxsie anti-fashion image. Fashion loves Siouxsie but she can’t love you back.

[@TheParklifeChoseMe]

it feels so weird seeing Robert smith in a band other than the cure

[@oceannebeaulieu4832]

so interesting :)

[@Pumpkinvvitch666]

My queen

[@GremlinSpike69]

Was that "Nomcore"? That you Said about 1/3 in? In reference to the Mods?

[@paulashe61]

Goff became a joke. And Siouxsie dropped her iconic image in favour of Louise Brookes.

[@salvie777]

6:41 I’m so sorry if this is rude, but I am genuinely just curious and want to fully understand what everything you’re saying, but what did you say here? The part where you say “but it also draws inspiration from the ___” I rlly hope this is not rue I just wanna know th facts at the fullest extent! AMAZING video and I’m definitely subscribing 🙏🙏🩵🩵🩵

[@SarahTheMiddleEarthling]

You can turn the subtitles on if that helps ❤

[@salvie777]

@@SarahTheMiddleEarthling the subtitles didn’t give the word for it tho😔😔 I can understand her but it’s that one word I rlly want to know bc I want to research it

[@imelascape]

Helloo sorry for the late reply, I was talking about the pre raphaelites, which is an art movement from the XIXth century. You can look up painters such as Waterhouse, Rossetti and Millais. Hope that helps and sorry for the atrocious pronunciation! 😅

[@DuanTorruellas]

What did she say ?

[@Colin-ro6lh]

Banshees are mythical creatures from Ireland 🇮🇪...

[@RnR-Rebel]

Correct; they are part of the faery “tribe” called “sidhe” (pronounced “she”), and there are many different types of “sidhe”. 💚

[@arricammarques1955]

Internal development surpasses fashion trends.

[@timmiller1954]

Where are you from?

[@imelascape]

switzerland

[@mornafaeanwyn510]

Very informative, the host is a fox

[@colestone14]

Stye?

[@BrandiRayburn]

annie lennox and siouxsie and kate bush and grace jones. all of them deserves the credit for challenging feminine archetypes. i have always liked it!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! i still do.

[@markc-ru4qz]

You spelled her name wrong in the opening credits LMFAO

[@ajh21313]

Your left wrist is really getting a workout.

[@giraffequeen9437]

Anyone else only click on this video to hear how to pronounce her name? Just me? 😐

[@itskey-rahcharles3881]

I have family members who still insist that it’s pronounced “Sushi” Sioux 🙄

[@lonewolf8667]

We didn't talk about "all genders" in the 80s, there were men and women. It wasn't before 2015 the language was changed to suit the minority that want to erase the description "woman" from law (This is not happening to the description "man"). Siouxsie wasn't interested in the goth label (she wasn't the only one), still it's forced on her.

[@KaiDecadence]

Yeah I think the video was great for the most part but the whole "gender identity" thing, she lost me. It's true that goth musicians and the fans of the music were subverting gender role expectations in the sense of embracing men who took on a more feminine appearance (Robert Smith & Rozz Williams for example) and women playing around with mare masculine looks (Some of Siouxsie's looks and some of Patricia Morrison's looks). But these people were not saying they were the opposite sex or some made up sex ("nonbinary", "genderfliuid"). Androgyny was the term of course but again, these people weren't being in denial of their biology. As for Siouxsie not wanting to be referred to as a goth, there's no denying that the "Juju" album was a goth rock album, it utilized the characteristics that define the goth rock sound (albeit in it's earliest stage before Sisters of Mercy put the final touches on the sound that would go on to define it) but aside from that, the huge bulk of their discography is not goth but post-punk and/or alternative rock & experimental pop. So I understand why she (and Robert Smith as the Cure did move away from the goth sound after Disintegration in 1989) doesn't like the association but she just has to accept that when she was playing around with goth at the time, she did it so well and inspired many others to try it themselves and there's no shame in that.

[@Ritff666l-e9e]

goth was alternative and didn't care about restrictions

[@Ritff666l-e9e]

@@KaiDecadence Some were actually saying it It was normal in the actual Alternative Scene

[@KaiDecadence]

@@Ritff666l-e9e They're talking about in terms of acknowledging sex class. IT's true that goth (and just the 80s alternative scene in general) also embraced breaking social norms but it was just that, breaking the stereotypes, not denying your sex. Siouxsie embraced some masculine styles like her sharp-dressed suits looks, Rozz Williams with his dresses and longer hair with makeup, Annie Lennox (not goth but just an example) with her short pixie cuts and suits,Boy George (again, not goth but just another example) with his striking makeup and long hair with skirts, and so on. These people were breaking from the shallow stereotypes of presenting a certain way but not calling themselves the opposite sex while doing it.

[@didiercalin7126]

stop speaking French! :D

[@BrandiRayburn]

annie lennox does!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!