The (Idiotic) Rise of Billionaire Doomsday Bunkers

[@HowMoneyWorks]

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[@lovepeoplehu9883]

Hope this video won't age well when war comes. lol

[@deezlife6226]

soooo, papameat made a video like that recently, did you get inspired or is this some sort of psy-op? 😨

[@Mr.Mister96]

Revelation 6:15-17 [15] The kings of the earth, its famous people, and its military leaders hid in caves or behind rocks on the mountains. They hid there together with the rich and the powerful and with all the slaves and free people. [16] Then they shouted to the mountains and the rocks, “Fall on us! Hide us from the one who sits on the throne and from the anger of the Lamb. [17] That terrible day has come! God and the Lamb will show their anger, and who can face it?”

[@Mr.Mister96]

Luke 12:49-51 [49] I came to set fire to the earth, and I wish it were already on fire! [50] I am going to be put to a hard test. And I will have to suffer a lot of pain until it is over. [51] Do you think that I came to bring peace to earth? No indeed! I came to make people choose sides.

[@Mr.Mister96]

Luke 12:49-51 [49] “I have come to set the world on fire, and I wish it were already burning! [50] I have a terrible baptism of suffering ahead of me, and I am under a heavy burden until it is accomplished. [51] Do you think I have come to bring peace to the earth? No, I have come to divide people against each other!

[@mothaphoto]

The funniest part of this to me, is during the lockdowns of 2020, the wealthiest people couldn’t bear to follow guidelines and disrupt their lifestyles in even the smallest ways. They will last about 2 days in their bunkers before going crazy or offing themselves. Seems it would be much wiser to use your wealth to make sure the apocalypse does not happen, and build up as much goodwill with as many people as possible now…. Better path to long term survival imo….

[@borgwardd24]

Couldn't bear? Or just didn't care?

[@Shadow_Banned_Conservative]

I think they will live out the rest of their lives in fear and paranoia. Afraid of the outside world getting to them, afraid of the inside world turning on them.

[@tw8464]

Exactly

[@DrumToTheBassWoop]

​@@Shadow_Banned_Conservativesimultaneously the wotld outside is already rebuilding the star trek society. The billys have to go, to much leaches.

[@DogeMcLovin]

Newsom had to have his private dinner, you don't understand! The only way to be a good host is to offer wine from your own vineyard, which didn't have to close down because its uber special and essential to the public.

[@owlmostdead9492]

To be fair, designing a doomsday bunker is super fun

[@HowMoneyWorks]

Won't argue with that. Someone should make a doomsday tycoon game.

[@owlmostdead9492]

@@HowMoneyWorks Exactly

[@SangoProductions213]

@@HowMoneyWorks Frostpunk.

[@amazing3614]

​@@HowMoneyWorksFallout the mobile one... Best game on app store

[@CheezMonsterCrazy]

Heck yeah. If I was a billionaire I'd build a super cool secret fort too. I'd also proceed to show it to everyone I know so they can also see my super cool secret fort.

[@jan5558]

Am i the only one who sees a lategame dungeon with premium loot when looking at these?

[@RorikH]

Of course not. So do the Lone Wanderer, the Courier, The Sole Survivor, and all the Residents of Vault 76.

[@crusaderanimation6967]

That's... sound like actually good idea for fallout "dungeon"/"vault"

[@Bustermachine]

@@crusaderanimation6967 I'm pretty sure this is a Fallout Vault, or something similar to one.

[@path.1499]

I doubt these fellers would qualify as raid bosses though. Definitely casual solo content considering the age of the average billionaire.

[@MickeyDaM0use]

@@path.1499I’m sure they would have ai defenses tho

[@sayachan6069]

I lost it at the notion they wanted to put shock collars on their secuirty staff. These people are absolute god damn monsters.

[@ergwertgesrthehwehwejwe]

The only source is a guy with financial interest in spreading stuff like this. He wants to sell his book to you.

[@MrAgmoore]

@@ergwertgesrthehwehwejwe bra... Rushkoff wrote a free article in The Guardian newspaper

[@kappadarwin9476]

It shows these billionaires never really thought about their own security staff rebelling against them. They thought it would be like warlords where they would have armed groups follow them around. Never considering the fact that those warlords and dictators had to give something up to keep the security force loyal to them.

[@JF-xm6tu]

And they don't pay tax. Something needs to be done about them

[@mikespangler98]

"Never considering the fact that those warlords and dictators had to give something up to keep the security force loyal to them." How feudalism worked is well documented. But loyalty to your vassals is something a sociopath would never consider.

[@dragonclaud2386]

Hedge fund manager: How do i ensure the loyalty of my elite private army during the fall of Society? Rushkoff: Have you tried Empathy? Hedge fund manager: Wheeeeeeze

[@EnlightenedMinarchist]

. . . Im laughing . . . so hard . . . Do you see how much Im laughing? -_______-

[@MrAgmoore]

@@EnlightenedMinarchist same face as your avatar?

[@babayaga6376]

Control the water and food supply?

[@MrAgmoore]

@@babayaga6376 free handjobs?

[@chonkyboy3597]

sound like something mr burns would said

[@brunol.8608]

Being a billionaire does not mean having good foresight. These complexes are useless without significant amounts of skilled, technical labor as well as security expertise. What'd most likely happen is that, eventually, insiders in their staff would either demote, imprison, or even eliminate the person funding them when money became worthless, so they could make better use of their assets. Even if society was reestablished, many people are "disappeared" during lawless periods... if the fall of the USSR or Serbia were any good modern indicators.

[@the81kid]

Good points. It's amazing to me how the people who profit the most from the "free market" tend to have the least idea how economics actually works. Reminds me of the CEO in Margin Call, who wants his underlings to explain the crisis to him "as if I were a labrador".

[@Dreamer38607]

But that would actually create value for the people who are left behind even if it is not the billionaire themselves so maybe it’s a social service.

[@the81kid]

@@Dreamer38607 Just repeat the mantra: "The market is the greatest resource allocating system ever. I shall not question the wisdom of the free market. Amen."

[@turtleanton6539]

​@@the81kid😮

[@alextrebek5237]

Horizon Zero West covers this. The billionaire implants everyone with explosives and starts killing the staff off, gets depraved, does the "catholic priest" thing to the doctors daughter who gets revenge by ruining his gene therapy, making him into an immortal monster starved for social contact.

[@commonwombat-h6r]

annual billionare sacrifice to the sea gods isn't such a bad idea after all

[@Jrockjeff]

2 years and counting

[@iGame3D]

Preach!

[@drkreuzer670]

Preferably in the Great Pacific garbage patch, cause thats where they belong

[@spankeyfish]

Seasteading could've got rid of them all at once but it failed :/

[@irinaiturri]

we need much more sacrifices to Poseidon

[@alanonabout]

"Bought a doomsday bunker for the apocalypse... now stuck with canned beans and no Wi-Fi. Guess the world's end wasn't the worst part!"

[@SnowmanTF2]

Granted it is incredibly hard to tell between one building a shelter for the end of the world, and one just having a place to hide out in case of major natural disaster or local riot, either of which might have small amount of warning to drive over to it.

[@aoe4_kachow]

this is why elon built starlink

[@Adelina-293]

Should've stockpiled DVDs and Blue Rays instead, no need for an internet connection.

[@umtoge]

Npc ass comment

[@Thelango99]

@@aoe4_kachow StarLink is a LEO system that requires regular satellite launches to maintain the network.

[@alastairhewitt380]

Man, the part about the shock collars. They could just create space for their security guards and their families and yeah treat them well, but that would require them being at least half way decent and to be willing to share something with the poors. They would rather die than give up their god complex

[@Redmanticore]

not being a tyrant god is not part of the fantasy

[@aluisious]

If you want proof that billionaires are not smart, it's that any of them had the gall to say out loud "maybe I could put shock collars on my team of special forces veterans." If I'm some guy who spent 15 years in Afghanistan, Iraq, and lots of other places that weren't in the news, talk of shock collars would move up my plans from taking your bunker when the worst happens, to doing it now before you try to implement any plan.

[@SoulSoundMuisc]

Right? "And just how are you going to get those shock collars on us, chum? A threat of force? You and--" *looks back at rest of security team* "--what army? You can maaaybe off one of us before we disable you and spend the apocalypse occupying ourselves about your person."

[@catborg780]

Plus you know they won't do anything for themselves since they didn't have to before. Want dinner better be nice to the cook. toliet clogged or air purifier broke better have a guy that can fix that, oh & all of their family is here. They'll need to learn how to get people to want to work WITH them & pull their fair share because no way in hell anyone is working FOR their spoiled assess.

[@suoquainen]

Why do you say any billionaire? It's not any billionaire.

[@castirondude]

You can say that, but then at the same time let's acknowledge how tough it is when you're surrounded by people all pretending to be your friend and you have no idea who will turn on you and betray you in the worst ways in the blink of an eye.

[@suoquainen]

@@castirondude Let's just say that especially in the youth you try to find someone who doesn't wants to be befriended with you just because of the money.

[@jordanwhite352]

In addition, I can't stop thinking about when watching this video. One of the earliest walking Dead episodes. There's a KZbin channel that has a great coverage of this background story. In this episode I think it's when Daryl and Beth are separated from the group and they go to try to find alcohol. And there's this whole backstory as they're rooting through this country club where he quickly realized that in the beginning of the Apocalypse, the staff of the country club were taking care of the rich people. But obviously the rich people were both delusional and over demanding. And then as time went on and they realized oh, this is literally a world-ending event. Society's not going to go back, there is no money. Thus there's no payroll. There's just survival. The people who ran the country club said fuck these rich people and not just killed them but tortured them in horrific ways as revenge for how they were treated pre-apocalypse. And in my opinion, that's probably what's going to happen to rich people during an event like this.

[@turtleanton6539]

Yeeh

[@Fred_the_1996]

one can only hope

[@MarkL-we8uk]

In Fear the Walking Dead, this is pretty much how it panned out at the wealthy American family wedding in Mexico

[@seeleunit2000]

That would happen if an apocalypse was coming. But it's not. However, considering how these rich people are bankrupting themselves trying to create these doomsday bunkers, they're hosting themselves by their own petards

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

Yes, and it doesn't even require everybody to turn on them, just for the ones that aren't sadistic monsters to not feel like stepping in to help them out. The best case scenario for the billionaires is to hope that things convert into some sort of commune and do their fair share of the work, or more.

[@enticingmay435]

The funny and delusional thing is that almost all of these billionaire bunkers have staff/servant quarters…..meaning that these entitled people assume that there will be people serving them and they’ll get to live the easy life even after the world ended 😂😂😂

[@sgttomas]

why all the pitchforks??! 😂

[@Th1200]

The billionaire would not survive day 1 XD

[@IL_Bgentyl]

Have to remember many people would gladly serve in a dooms day like that so it’s not so unrealistic. We have cults achieving this when the worlds fine

[@christopherellis2663]

They are incapable of serving themselves

[@alextrebek5237]

Live in Fallout wasteland with super mutants, deathclaws and eating dogmeat vs throwing it back, cooking and cleaning with a smile...most people choose the latter

[@MrTeapots]

These billionaires want to restore feudalism, which requires that every king has his castle. Fortunately old Mr. Death doesn't take bribes and this too shall pass.

[@SlickJohnnysHouse]

It's mostly funny because what kept kings alive was the divine right of kings, which billionaires have been trying to make happen again by funding prosperity gospel in the US.

[@Mr_Tenebris]

For Now

[@davidson2727what]

The trick is getting power away from these people before the environment is completely destroyed.

[@richyhu2042]

Whatever throne a king sits upon, the reaper is just behind the crown that sits upon his head.

[@nietur]

no, they don't

[@tsbrownie]

Assuming you had 24 hour's notice, your pilot was cool leaving their family behind, that GPS was not turned off or encoded, that the ATC was operating, that the government had not locked the skies, that your jet was fueled and current to fly, that the airports on each end were usable, that hordes had not descended on the airports, that roads were open or your chopper was available, or.... you could then reach your bunker to deal with all the problems that others have listed.

[@iglidor]

And assuming that you would achieve all you mentioned, you would feel mighty stupid in such doomsday scenario if you did not bother spending 0.01% of your annual income on building to build the bunker in the first place. Thats the point. For them, this preparation and investment is about as significant as for you deciding whether you will order two breadrolls or three.

[@uss-dh7909]

@@iglidor I think what he's saying is that in a world that's breaking down, a lot of things have to go completely right before things actually, you know, break. That or you get a hint that the world will end, but I find the idea that people know the world will end, or at the very least civilization breaking down, is far scarier.

[@aussiewanderer6304]

Fun fact: if it's going to happen, it may happen so quickly that those billionaires may not be able to fly across the world to get to their bunker.

[@finalascent]

I've speculated the inverse idea: that most, if not all of these people would be given a low-key heads-up before SHTF. Big clues might be FBOs and yacht marinas near population centers emptying out.

[@andrewmueller23]

That's another major flaw in the plan. A lot of these billionaires think they're going to fly a G650 to New Zealand if the world collapses. That relies on so many factors which are dependent on a functional society in the first place.

[@lerymisandari4015]

​​@@andrewmueller23they will fly there a couple of days before, when everyone is thinking the world is in tact.

[@tw8464]

​@@andrewmueller23exactly

[@UCjNrKLyRJI-abFA8qiNo92Q]

or they get into their bunker and society recovers intermediately

[@bill-jg6nj]

“If you want to go fast, go alone. If you want to go far, go together.” African proverb.

[@streetstroller]

[A] good rule of thumb is-if you hear a gripping “African proverb” in a TED Talk or an episode of 30 Rock, or even just from a person who is comfortable saying “African proverb” with a straight face, you might remember: “That’s probably not an African proverb.” - African Proverb

[@Redmanticore]

and they would know about not getting far.

[@DogeMcLovin]

@@streetstroller lmaooo

[@thatundeadlegacy2985]

Africa the worst dump on the planet.

[@linaa3292]

Very wholesome

[@swaggery]

This goes for all doomsday preppers, not just the billionaire ones. Unless your specific goal is survive for a few weeks or months and avoid the chaos of a chaotic event. After that your chances of survival would be best with a community, one you could be investing in right now. Or focus on investing into companies that are developing decentralized infrastructure, so that way if your hydro dam stops working, it doesn't matter. Then for prepper communities, I think they are in for a shock when they realize living with a bunch of highly unstable people breaks down in less than a week.

[@kappadarwin9476]

Glad you point that out. The level of distrust and paranoia would be so exhausting to deal with especially when said preppers lose it doing the same task, and being in the same living space for a long time. The billionaires preppers really get me because of how dependent they are on others. A lot of those fancy dugouts look to be very electricity dependent so when that goes out and food begins to spoil that place will be hell.

[@uncreativename9936]

I have a suspicion they're not actually preparing for a real doomsday, but more like a French revolution. You can just chill in the bunker for the first couple years then come back out when things have come down a couple notches.

[@tw8464]

Exactly

[@shun2240]

Yeah get together a bunch of people with different skills and cultivate relationships, this is what I am doing in addition to improving my survival skills

[@tealkerberus748]

The sort of prepper that huddles in their basement counting their ammo boxes will not survive. The sort of prepper who shares their surplus heritage seed yield with all their neighbours has a much better chance.

[@settingsun1]

me and the bois with flex tape vs their ventilation

[@HowMoneyWorks]

Bunkers hate this one simple trick.

[@RaveNinja1401]

A billion dollar bunker for rich people vs. one chair-y boy outside the door

[@Dfthg-bz3hp]

How'd you get around the META drone swarm with thermal IR vision / AI 🤓😩

[@TomCouger]

5 bubba's with shotguns

[@aleksandrakrolak]

@@Dfthg-bz3hp Boston Dynamics Doggos :P

[@exploshaun]

Billionaires being nice to their employees instead of inventing shock collars challenge: impossible

[@BigPapi2103]

Amazon

[@SmudgyRules]

Reminds me of the Apple TV “Silo” series. It takes a team of engineers, mechanics, etc to run and maintain such a thing. A billionaire and his useless children ain’t going to cut it.

[@SusCalvin]

I liked Jericho. The old show about a town on the outskirts of nuclear terrorism. Then you have effectively re-invented civil defence. Congrats. You have figured out why people survive in towns.

[@LMN021]

@@SusCalvindid not expect to find a jericho reference!! While i have this moment i am required to say im still upset the show got canned on such a good cliffhanger

[@SusCalvin]

@@LMN021 I'm more used to the old Twilight 2000. That game was often set against local civ populations trying to make do. Whether at the front in Poland or far away like Grenada or Iran or Thailand.

[@rando521]

its almost like only billionares can buy $100million bunkers if i could i would... especially if it would barely scratch the surface of my wallet

[@vylbird8014]

Maybe some sort of shared plan for the merely millionaires? For a few tens of thousands of dollars a year per person (children half price) you can rent slot in the bunker, with the funds going towards upkeep and restocking the perishables. In the event of a disaster the bunker owner will attempt to get as many customers as possible to safety, though you may have to make your own way part of the journey. Once a year they hold the weekend Bunker Party, where all customers are invited to stay over so they can personally inspect their bunker (and bunk) to see their money is being well spent.

[@ano_nym]

@@vylbird8014 that's basically 2012 :P

[@lukasprazak7362]

@@vylbird8014 Interesting business idea.

[@Destroyer_V0]

@@vylbird8014 ... so privately funded vault tech.

[@killerwhale__]

​@@vylbird8014 Hitman 3?

[@DistrustHumanz]

The Walton family doomsday bunker near Bentonville, Arkansas, is large enough for at least 40,000 people... but designed to service just 12 people.

[@SusCalvin]

Are those 12 people supposed to have all the technical, maintenance and medical skills necessary?

[@uFFFO]

A football stadium is large enough for 40,000 people. Doesn't mean they can survive there.

[@GabrielHellborne]

@@SusCalvin I know, right?

[@SusCalvin]

@@uFFFO Air raid shelters aren't very roomy, it depends on how long people are supposed to stay. In them you have enough room to sit.

[@ozzyhouston2535]

When they have a toothache or broken bone, will bandits rob them on the highway to the hospital?

[@EmperorDionx]

A doomsday bunker is the endgame of amassing billions of dollars? What a truly awful world we have created

[@yinyangsaladgang8789]

Don't be so dramatic. It's not the endgame, it's an insurance policy.

[@EmperorDionx]

@@yinyangsaladgang8789 but he just said that the end of the world will make them not billionaires anymore. How is that insurance? They will be no better off than anyone else who survived

[@sherlyn.a]

@@EmperorDionx insurance to live. to have home and shelter during an apocalypse-like scenario. quality food. access to healthcare tool. entertainment. All things that regular people wouldn’t have that money wouldn’t buy in that scenario

[@flinch622]

One step ahead... hiding in plain sight is an unusual art. Lets say these billionaires are correct, and that they also know that the bunkers will be a distraction: unused, and a draw away from where they operate? Just an idea. Who would coopt these multi million dollar sanctuaries? Governments. Recall former governor Cuomo's comments about "essential workers"? Its like that. Once chaos recedes, these same billionaires could perhaps request remuneration for the use of their facilities and the pols will gladly pick the pockets of the masses for them.

[@skrat1001]

I think the endgame is destroying the world.

[@benjamingarrett9960]

*Billionaires watching me dump concrete over their only entrance/exit* 😱😱😱😱😱😱

[@Cucumberflavoredmustard]

The one fatal flaw of these underground forts is the continuous need to pump out groundwater. No power, and your massive bunker becomes a massive well. Pumps eat a TON of power, requiring use of generators that need to be close to the surface due to exhaust fumes. All an outsider has to do is plug the exhaust ports and the water discharge pipe. Game over.

[@liamnehren1054]

you can in fact make concrete water proof. There are even boats made out of concrete. But everything I have seen about these bunkers is that at most they will survive a year, there is really no point to even building them.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

Most of these places, the water table is way below where these bunkers are.

[@Cucumberflavoredmustard]

@@andrewschliewe6392 Even so, when it rains or snows, the water is still going to find the path of least resistance down to it.

[@simontaylor2143]

Anyone else feel like this would make for great TV? Like a cross between fallout and succession, with the wealthy preppers discovering just how little value they have after societal collapse

[@maestrulgamer9695]

To sum it up: 1.They are used to seeking safety measures. 2.They are used to isolation. 3.They just can.

[@gianlucag100g]

Maybe something else?

[@Novusod]

It is a basic human instinct to hide food away for a rainy day. Farmers have been doing this for thousands of years. Billionaires just have the resources to indulge that instinct extravagantly.

[@zimbu_]

They're used to the feeling of isolation as people treat interactions with them as unequal or business interactions, not actual isolation. People are very interested in getting near billionaires and billionaires often rely on various maintenance and service workers to keep their lives running smoothly, so isolation is very uncommon.

[@firesoldier343]

​@@gianlucag100g To you or me, these bunkers seem like MASSIVE investments that take a lot of money, time, and effort to build and think through. For them its just another fancy mansion, except this one has a theme!

[@mr.fahrenheit7009]

yeah i dont grt this weird cope

[@MrBoooooring]

This is just like 10 year-old me and my brother building a safe house under the bed sheets. It's about how it makes you feel safe more than anything else.

[@Bigtaco556]

Ironic putting money to help them when the world ends instead of putting it to help the world from ending in the first place, really thinking ahead with this one lol.

[@7-ten]

Yeah. If something happened and billionaires were the only ones left because they were the ones with bunkers. Who are they going to pay to do anything for them? who will they pay to grow their food? Billionaires are going to pay the other billionaires that are the only ones that still exist? Somebody didn't think this all the way through...

[@jghifiversveiws8729]

Well you can't exactly save the world from itself

[@KingOpenReview]

​@@jghifiversveiws8729But you can.

[@probusexcogitatoris736]

That is because billionaires absolutely despise normal people. You don't become a billionaire if you respect and care about other people than your immediate family. Then you would start donating your money long before you reach that level of ridiculous wealth. The irony is that they don't realize how utterly dependent they are on the people they despise.

[@jimbomacgee3499]

@@probusexcogitatoris736 To be fair plenty of common people despise other common people too? Just get in a car accident with someone random and see how fast they blame you even if they were truly at fault. We're all in competition with each other so billionaires doing this should not be surprising at all...

[@ZQRDS2W]

The sponsored segment ends at 6:55. You are welcome.

[@brunodemauro]

I would say the video starts at this timestamp

[@uss-dh7909]

Sponsorblock, I never even knew there was a sponsored segment.

[@knottheory79220]

I'm not a billionaire but I keep 15 gallons of water and some canned and freeze dried foods on hand, along with some supplies. If I were a billionaire I'd do the same thing just much more elaborately.

[@crytocc]

The main difference is having a contingency plan for the immediate situation of chaos, vs. expecting to apply that contingency plan over a long period of time. Being prepared for disasters is a good thing, and you can live on buffered resources for a bit, but ultimately the only way to survive in the long term is going to be cooperation with others to rebuild what broke.

[@gdutfulkbhh7537]

If everyone did this, doomsday wouldn't be doomsday.

[@sandermez3856]

if you have a place to keep 15 gallons of water, canned/freeze dried food and "some supplies" than you are too rich and you are the problem.

[@youtubeboi855]

@@sandermez3856 Lol being rich is automatically being "a problem"? What kind of stupidity is this lol. If you were rich, you'd likely do the same things as these billionaires.

[@igustibagusananda7706]

@@youtubeboi855 You have to remember that many of the audience of this channel are those "eat the rich" types.

[@Adelina-293]

It would be ashame if us normal people formed post apocalypse warbands and conquered, then looted these billionaire bunkers.

[@alaric_3015]

normal people can't even win anything of value against lobbying in a LITERAL DEMOCRACY what makes you think they can do something bigger than that in a setting where there's no food, fuel, energy, transportation, spare part, etc etc, against someone with their own private army also assuming massive destruction, what makes you think the one with the highest purchasing power wouldn't be able to obtain their own McNukes?

[@tealkerberus748]

I wonder how easy it is to get a map showing where they are and some satellite images showing the openings and services?

[@GabrielHellborne]

Genghis Gun and his Orc Warboiis.

[@mr.fahrenheit7009]

WAAAAA BILLIONAIRE WAAAAAAAA

[@albasphaysal]

Billionaire doomsdayers when they realize that a 5km thick wall still cannot protect them from inevitable💀☠️

[@cheesesniper473]

You are also stuck in a box while everyone outside has access to everything. Even 5 km of concrete can be blasted through by a group of randos with a bunch of explosives and nothing but time. And lets be real, its probably 3 meters max. Wouldnt take even 1 barrel of black powder to crack.

[@firesoldier343]

They still have to leave their air vents exposed to people who can tape or smash them shut

[@Dr_Ney]

@@cheesesniper473 Demo here. Of course, a barrel of black powder won't do anything to a 3-meter-thick concrete wall, but think about this. Let's imagine that such a bunker has a door 1 meter thick of steel. This is a LOT, but not for explosives. One shape charge of hexogen (which is easy to make even in post-apocalyptic conditions) with a capacity of 1.5-2 kilograms of TNT equivalent is enough. This will make a relatively small hole, the size of an adult's thumb, but the hole will go through the entire door. Now you need brisant explosives, such as nitroglycerin or nitroethylene glycol (those makes easy too), to widen this hole. If you prepared, the door like I mentioned will fall in less than 5 minutes.

[@AzureSkyCiel]

I remember watching a video by a Survivalist consultant who was ex-military and fought in the Middle East, and one of his biggest points of advice was: DO NOT DITCH YOUR COMMUNITY AND BUG OUT. And stressed that a big part of survival was working together as teams because humans are social creatures. So, yeah.

[@Cmdtheartist]

The best part of the techbros seeking answers was when they were asked how they were going to get to their bunkers. PJ's, of course, they said. Were any of them, the techbros, pilots? They said no, and then they were asked, then why would their pilots abandon their families to fly you to safety? Which meant they would have to take them, too.

[@Harruu]

This reminds me of Game Theory, which is all about how players strategize and make decisions. The reason billionaires prepare for a doomsday scenario is because they're uncertain about whether anyone or anything out there is planning for the end of the world. Technically, they could all come together to use their resources to fight against one of these possible doomsday scenarios, like an artificially created virus outbreak. However, there might be other highly powerful individuals who would actually want this to happen, or might be behind it. The players basically want to make sure their own survival is on top, so they prioritize self-preservation over collaboration. If they were to fight each other, it would lessen their own chances of survival and use up a lot of their resources. Instead, they invest in these doomsday bunkers, hedging their bets on being the last ones standing.

[@PenguinCrayon269]

that explains pubg campers. sigh...

[@sor3999]

They do want it to happen. Politicians for both parties are flirting with war with China and they're likely funded by these wealthy people and corporations.

[@uss-dh7909]

The last one standing on a field of ashes? Okay, enjoy your victory. Now that the game is truly over... what have you won?

[@Solus-qn3ur]

This is more believable

[@guntcheck]

These are folks that have not read, "Masque of the Red Death"

[@MartianAmbassador69]

Imagine being so out-of-touch that you think you can buy yourself out of the apocalypse

[@RealClanCinema]

assuming you cant is actually 1000x more out of touch lol

[@citieschilling]

funnily enough youtube on and off keeps thinking I am rich and then gives me ads for companies building custom luxury bunkers lol

[@JF-xm6tu]

Hahaha

[@FictionHubZA]

Do they really think the desperate masses wouldn't raid those bunkers once things get serious?

[@robymaru03]

No heavy door can survive a bit of termite.

[@kalliaslands9938]

Forget the desperate masses. The national military such as it is at the time would seize the bunkers

[@SusCalvin]

I think my town would have a lot more real resources than a little group in a bunker. And a whole lot more people.

[@GabrielHellborne]

@@kalliaslands9938 I believe that nice company of armored infantry, with their families in tow, would like in, Mr Richman. They bring many convincing arguments in the form of main battle tanks and TOW-equipped Humvees.

[@EyeKnowRaff]

*Misnay-Schardin effect has entered the chat*

[@KingUnKaged]

Did anyone else find it adorable that Sam Altman thinks Peter Thiel would spend even a single millisecond waiting on the tarmac for him to show up, or crack the door to his mega bunker even a single inch to let him in, in the event of a zombie apocalypse? 😂

[@MrAgmoore]

I think it's odd. If they were lovers, it would make more sense?

[@avollant]

The 1% can have all of the Bunkers and security that they want but they find out soon enough that all of their power and money will be reduced to the value of a single roasted chicken.

[@Tacom4ster]

can't eat money

[@andremarques3317]

not if those bunkers are filled with the most important goods in a post-apocalyptic world, like water, food and fuel. The billionaires would be way less wealthy, but they could have even more power over society than currently

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

I guess the plan for the rest of is to go go mob the airports so they can't get away, given that only a small fraction of us would have any hope of getting away from the cities far enough to save ourselves. I think the only situation in which these bunkers would be of any use would be a deep impact style of issue where a meteor is on course to smash into the earth. In that case, this could potentially work, but the whole business of the billionaires expecting to remain in charge when the economic system shifts into one based on the work that still needs to be done is rather naive, to say the least. Really, being nice to the security folks, ensuring that they and their loved ones can come, and automating as much of it as possible is the only way. But, they aren't likely to do that because if they were those sorts of people, they wouldn't be billionaires.

[@Tacom4ster]

@@andremarques3317 Nah, future generations will be taught by us elders that the capitalists ruined the planet and to not trust them, like have you heard of this play "Mr Burns"? Capitalists will be considered as mythological monsters to scare kids

[@Slickstaff_Stainpants]

they will spend their diamonds on potatoes

[@Davidion]

Billionaires: I'm god and nothing can hurt me in my super bunker. Supply chains and economic systems:

[@avroarchitect1793]

Pros talk and think in logistics.

[@guest_zzroman2076]

Millionares be like: "How do we keep our security staff loyal, do we leash them like dogs?" How about just be nice to them and allow their families in? They don't have to occupy the fancy suites, just give them a room with a bunch of bunk beds, it's called a bunker for a reason. If you want to be draconian about it make them work as farmhands for an indoor garden, what are they gonna say, no? It's the apocalypse, they'd be clammoring at your feet for even letting them live inside the bunker, people won't mind earning their stay if it's for their families, it's better than scavenging the wastelands and getting eaten by mutants.

[@isaacvitela5131]

Great idea! Too bad their ego makes that complicated

[@tw8464]

Yeah the billionaires shouldn't probably bring any one there's a chance will turn against them but that's easier said than done.

[@SusCalvin]

​@@tw8464Now I imagine a family of a dozen trying to do surgery on eachother.

[@Ziegfried82]

Better to form a religious cult IMO, that's the kind of thing that breeds extreme loyalty to the leader. But yes being nice could also work.

[@SusCalvin]

@@Ziegfried82 I think being able to win the mayoral election in a small town is enough.

[@Ishter151]

Plot twist. The civil engineers leading these projects set up a secret entrance for their families.

[@nineonine9082]

These people got money to burn, of course they would invest in something that has a 1% chance of happening and which has a massive pay off, if it does happen. Normaly people aint got the time, money and or space to do much in terms of this, they much better off just trying to know someone who does.

[@Troy_Built]

If it costs less than 1 days pay who wouldn't if they could? It might just be somewhere to get away like a stay-cation. They were probably awesome during Covid.

[@seeleunit2000]

These people are delusional. It's not going to be the Apocalypse. But their own stupidity is costing them so much money

[@TumblinWeeds]

A billionaire building a doomsday bunker is equivalent to you buying a box of protein bars in case you get hungry. Their life is wildly out of proportion to ours and it’s silly that everyone is trying to interpret this as anything else

[@Senthiuz]

Rich people got too much money? I have a solution.

[@SmallSpoonBrigade]

It's more that they'd rather spend their money on things like this than risking it get into the hands or regular people.

[@Jayjs20]

Wonder if they realize that in an end-of-the-world scenario, the billionaire is the most worthless person in any enclosed community.

[@AdderallAscension]

not just worthless in terms of skill set, but also in terms of demeanor and compatibility to work as an equal group

[@jacobp.2024]

The problem is that many billionaires get into their position because they're manipulative sociopaths. You don't get that level of wealth honestly.. They aren't just the most worthless person, but they're a cult of personality that inevitably causes conflict and power dynamic issues. It's like having an affluent narcissist Negan time bomb ready to go off.

[@sidwhiting665]

Possibly. Possibly not. Take someone like Musk who is a skilled inventor. True, most of his inventions have been made for a high-tech society which has just been destroyed by the doomsday scenario, but that doesn't mean he's not a hard-worker or has no good ideas for how to start rebuilding society. Probably one of the worst assumptions is the one made by the thousands of workers who overthrow their factory owners, managers and foremen so that they could run the company themselves .... only to realize all they were good at doing was following a process or a checklist developed by someone much more skilled than they are. Individually, they aren't competent to run a company themselves, which is why they were helping someone else run his company instead of starting their own. All they can do is copy what they already had seen done, but don't have the skills or connections to build new processes to react to changes. Most--not all--billionaires are actually very smart, highly creative, and driven people. The same is true of CEOs, COOs, and CFOs. Sure a few are crooks only out to milk the systems, and I guess it sells more ads to pretend that this means they're all rich, useless jerks, though. I've know a half doze higher up, high net worth people. They don't think like most people do. They have vision of the world being a different place entirely. You'd need someone like that to rebuild anything like a stable, functioning society just as much as the grunt laborers who follow directions. Otherwise, you end up with MadMax and a world run by thugs scavenging off the carcass of what came before.

[@ebluegamer5397]

Close to almost purely detrimental, really.

[@moteroargentino7944]

Depends, people with actual practical knowledge like Elon Musk are still a valuable resource even without their money.

[@josephreagan9545]

If I was a billionaire I would build a bunker as well, but I would do 2 things differently from the other billionaires. 1. First, I would build a small bunker that would just be an underground middle-class house (so to speak) with canned food, bottled water, some electricity source for my gaming PC, books, weapons, etc., and a way to eventually grow new food, get clean water, generate new electricity, etc. on the surface. I would only have myself and my immediate family with me. No guards or staff. 2. Then, I would find a small town of like-minded people (people with roughly the same political and religious, and economic values) and then (with their permission) build bunkers (with supplies and weapons) under every building in that small town and connect them all together effectively giving every family and business their own bunker, and turning the town as a whole into a bunker. Life would change after the disaster but I would not have to worry about being alone or my guards turning on me. So long as there is a governmental structure in place beforehand and all the people are armed and have additional supplies, it will make it difficult for any one faction/individual to take total control and become a dictator. Serving others by providing for their survival and security needs before the end of the world, is the best way to serve and provide for my future needs and security after the end of the world. I won't be the king or one of the elites of the shared bunker, rather I would set things up so that I am just another citizen of that town/ underground micronation the same as everyone else.

[@chipcook5346]

I was a proto-prepper in the 80s. I quickly realized that even if I did everything I wanted to, I would only postpone the inevitable for a few months. That was assuming that I didn't die of any of the things that actually happened to me (I would have) and that I would not have been snuffed by someone else (likely). I'm glad you brought up the numbers of support people involved and what people do under stress. Want a look into how that works when shtf, read up on what happened in New Orleans during the Katrina disaster.

[@Bryghtpath]

Back in 1961, JFK encouraged Americans to build fallout shelters to protect against nuclear threats. Today, we’ve gone from community bunkers to private underground palaces for the super-rich, what a shift!

[@andrewmueller23]

In the 1950s and 1960s, you have huge and well stocked community fallout shelters in everything from schools to post offices. Those don't exist anymore.

[@SusCalvin]

​@@andrewmueller23The cost of maintaining civ def systems without a Soviet Union was seen as increasingly unnecessary.

[@Ziegfried82]

@@SusCalvin very foolish of them IMO...or very evil. Surely they knew that China was a rising power, and that the middle east was a powder keg. I would say the Western governments simply decided they didn't need their civilians in such an event.

[@Pacemaker_fgc]

​@SusCalvin The cost of anything that promoted the common good and created a healthy, stable, happy society was seen as unnecessary. And now the people who deemed those things unnecessary are building nuclear bunkers. Funny how that turned out.

[@randyearles1634]

@@SusCalvin true, rogue incidents can occur but very unlikely major governments will use nuclear weapons. Its all about cost vs. benefit.

[@cognician_]

I didn't expect to hear about the weird strain of deranged doomsday accelerationism we find in silicon valley on this channel but I am absolutely here for it

[@kezia8027]

@@zinjanthropus322 okay buddy. I'm sure you were very smart in high-school, sorry about all the mental illness and lack of achievement since then though 🤷‍♀

[@zinjanthropus322]

@@kezia8027 A quick Google search could've saved you from not only your ignorant reply but the obvious projection as well but I guess that's too much to ask of a former gifted kid apparently suffering mental illness. Seek therapy.

[@zinjanthropus322]

@@kezia8027 A simple Google search could've saved you from projecting. Sorry about your life.

[@zinjanthropus322]

@@kezia8027 Yikes, a quick internet search could've saved you from projecting. Hope everything works out for you.

[@zinjanthropus322]

@@kezia8027 Yikes, a quick Google search could've prevented the projection.

[@aoe4_kachow]

it's not dumb, it's trickle down economics giving construction jobs to laborers

[@denisbrooker7115]

LOL

[@mrping2603]

That's hilarious

[@brettstarks1846]

😂, praise the job creators!

[@ThriftyCHNR]

Beware, if Atlas shrugs they will not give us jobs building their doomsday bunkers to get away from us after ruining the economy.

[@SlapStyleAnims]

HAHAHAHA

[@jimcroft21]

Have common folk build your bunker, and assume they don’t know its vulnerabilities?

[@matthewnelson5293]

"The survivors will envy the dead." I'll pass on the fancy bunker that will become a tomb.

[@lucadominguez4659]

Of course you put shock collars on your guards, what could go wrong? 🤣🤣🤣

[@RorikH]

The only people who are going to agree to wear shock collars around all the time are the ones who are **into that shit.**

[@yautl1]

I'm sure nothing bad will happen from ensuring the people you expect to protect you stay loyal through threats and abuse!

[@aezakmi3766]

Well if AI goes far enough rich can always have an terminator army, also servant bots.

[@pepperoni-pizza2457]

"No just bunkers but Apple Doomsday bunkers is like having a lifestyle" Apple Bunkers (iBunkers)

[@Timey254]

How to take over a doomsday bunker as a bandit in the post apocalypse: 1. find air intake 2. set a fire next to it 3. keep the fire going 4. wait for the occupants to leave as to not suffocate or to just... suffocate. Nonviolent way to take over a bunker: collect fresh fruit, fresh meat, fresh fish. Offer them for trade in exchange for a sleepover in the bunker. Latest after 2 years the desire for human contact and food other than canned food and they will actually hug and kiss you for just bringing a few fresh berries along.

[@useodyseeorbitchute9450]

Post-apo uber eats...

[@vylbird8014]

If I were a billionaire, I'd build by bunker in the middle of absolutely nowhere. Some place that has almost no people and absolutely nothing to draw any attention. Maybe Alaska. And maybe they have, but we wouldn't know about them.

[@Timey254]

@@vylbird8014 The problem remains that while you are "surviving" are you actually "living"? You will live off of canned food with no real social contacts and no natural light, all of them things humans need, to actually LIVE. And the lack of natural light also means your feeling of time will be completely destroyed which will also wreck your psyche. Most people in the post apocalypse would willingly sign up with the worst of the worst just to not be lonely anymore. Also middle of nowhere means you actually need to GET there when things actually go awry. And I don't think you will manage to do that while the bombs are currently flying.

[@vylbird8014]

@@Timey254 But that's how I live today.

[@ano_nym]

You don't have a bunker, you think you would have survived the doomsday? You think you would find it? And finally, you don't think their guards would simply shoot you trying that first trick?

[@Masterdebater-q5c]

A year or so back I watched a KZbinr from New Zealand wherein he drove around and showed all the new doomsday “bunkers” (really more like massive compounds), and it was staggering. If something like this happens because of billionaires Karma is real, and it is swift

[@kappadarwin9476]

I don't get why they would choose New Zealand. The government could easily confiscate the property and what happens if they can't travel to New Zealand it would make the whole thing pointless.

[@andrewmueller23]

@@kappadarwin9476 New Zealand is also a million miles from where these billionaires live, and only a few planes have the range to make a trip from continental US or Europe to New Zealand. And those planes require so many inputs that need a functional society to operate in the first place.

[@kalliaslands9938]

@@kappadarwin9476yep. New Zealand also massively underfunds their military. A bunch of quasi military facilities that can be taken for free will look like a tempting target for any wartime/crisis government.

[@tealkerberus748]

I am quietly confident that the New Zealand government has a contingency plan already drawn up for these people. But the billionaires are too arrogant to think of that .. which just makes it easier.

[@coolgamer2135]

​@tealkerberus748 Nope, not at all. i mean, c'mon, they are rich they aren't stupid.

[@jordanwhite352]

Two things. One is that I love how all these guys and gals have doomsday bunkers just in case like a meteorite or zombies ride from the grave or something, but none of them could somehow predict covid-19 even though scientists have been saying since the late '80s and the early '90s that a major pandemic caused by a superbug was inevitably going to happen within everyone's lifetime does none of their sheltering systems or businesses had any securities in place for something like that. The second thing that makes me laugh is that many of these bunkers have what's called the military base problem. Something that was actually funny enough discovered from analyzing if a zombie apocalypse or similar event would happen, which is that the problem with the US military would not be that oh, they're not armed well enough or they don't have the troops. It's the how many troops are going to die getting to the military base. Or if they have to leave the base in order to deal with their families and civilian lies, how many of them would get lost, cut off or perished. And so this is the problem if you have a world-ending bunker but you happen to be in like I don't know Prague but your bunkers all the way in China. How are you going to guarantee you're not going to die along the way getting there? Short, I think probably the best use cases for these bunkers would be that their original owners died off in the initial problems and that the survivors end up finding these and using them as shelters to try to rebuild Society.

[@RorikH]

The best bet is really just to build a bunker underneath your corporate headquarters. Everyone at work that day gets free bunker access as a perk.

[@catherinesanchez1185]

Re pandemic : Not to mention how many people lost their shit when the government said you need to stay home for a couple weeks and watch Netflix and bake bread. I've watched videos of some of these bunkers. All the people inside would be dead within weeks , cuz they'd be killing each other. Especially rich people cuz they're so used to having everything they want , when they want it and not having to compromise with anyone else. Funfact: Obama was scared enough by the scientists telling him about a pandemic being imminent that he had multiple response groups placed around the world in different countries (especially China) so that 1. the USA would get a lead before it got to us 2. we know most countries can't be trusted to tell the truth about whats happening when it's bad . Unfortunately, the president who followed him got rid of all of these emergency response groups cuz they were "sitting around doing nothing" . The chinese group was fired /reassigned just a few months before Covid hit China .

[@tw8464]

Exactly

[@SusCalvin]

The US military is mostly prepared for expeditionary war. You don't really expect Cuba or Canada to one day threaten an invasion. You have the national guard who can assemble in the local area. Mobilization, and fast mobilization at that, was essential in Europe. They imagined that home guard units would need to fight delaying combat as millions of people used every bus, personal car, train or bike they had to reach their post.

[@tealkerberus748]

Covid killed so many people only because everyone was stupidly complacent about it - it wasn't a very lethal infection. Now imagine if someone decided to weaponise something like ebola or a multi-resistant TB or even brought back smallpox? There are plenty of diseases that have mortality rates above 50%, rather than the less than 2% of Covid, and we know now that people are going to act wilfully stupid like it's a government conspiracy and they don't want to be vaccinated or stay home. Going out shopping and partying is literally more important to the average human than not killing someone! There will be more pandemics, until people or at least nations start acting like pandemics are something we need to prevent. Pandemics are caused by population (there's a lot of us!), travel (international flights in particular are super-spreaders), contact with reservoirs (wild animal populations, and melting permafrost, in particular), and vulnerability (lack of vaccination and lack of easy access to free high quality diagnostic and treatment health care). All of these factors are getting worse, and therefore statistically we can expect pandemics to arise more and more frequently.

[@LordCorwin1]

Amazing to see that most of the accelerationists also show a total lack of empathy and disregard for people.

[@ratoim]

The "Grab everything you can, Burn the rest down, and Utopia will magically emerge" mentality is certainly not conducive to empathy.

[@kalliaslands9938]

These billionaires are basically building military installations for free. I feel very confident that all of the states where these bunkers are located have classified plans to requisition these bunkers for national defense during an emergency.

[@coolgamer2135]

Doubt it, they most likely have a pact in secret that we don't know about, remember what you see is what they want you to see.

[@sethtrey]

In a very literal sense, the true bunker is the friends we made along the way.

[@loafofgoats7793]

Of course, why save the world when I can save myself 🥴🥴

[@TheHuntermj]

Let's face it, if you had billions of dollars, you wouldn't save the world either!

[@sherlyn.a]

^^ Nobody would. And even if they wanted, it’s a problem that cannot bebe solved by a single person

[@ifeoluwaadeoye6557]

@@sherlyn.a that is a cop-out, they didn't make all that money, themselves, but somehow, they cannot organise people to save the same planet they've been exploiting.

[@tommysalami420]

@@sherlyn.a Says you I'd immediately take endless losses to create food and bathhouses. Hence why I'd never be a billionaire.

[@Suesco]

@@tommysalami420 you would create a problem. if you gave abunch of food to abunch of people who cant produce their own food, because thye live in an uninhabitable desert, then they would thrive temporarily and create lots of children. then whos going to feed the children if they cant grow their own food? you are until you run out of money, and then when you run out of money youve created an entire mess of people who die because you fed them. this is why altruism is a threat to humanity.

[@dxminixn]

This explains the investment in AI and automation. This will replace the worker class and those to do the menial tasks.

[@the81kid]

That's a good point actually. That's a plausible explanation for at least some of the AI fervor. It's pity (for them) that AI is 99% marketing. They can't even get drone deliveries down (notice how drone deliveries - which were supposed to be delivering everything since last year - have almost completely disappeared?), never mind robot butlers.

[@tommysalami420]

And if the apocalypse doesn't happen we can then focus on making lives actually better instead of working everyone to death

[@the81kid]

@@tommysalami420 We've had 200,000 years without an apocalypse. Call me a cynic, but where is that period where we worked together to make lives better? We have modern technology, but we are the same as we always were. That we have so much advanced technology is what is leading to the apocalypse.

[@tommysalami420]

@@the81kid Every generation grows. New ideas will be tested as knowledge advances. We've made seemingly impossible things real. Collaboration is still possible. The story of the future is still being written. Wish you luck out there :)

[@the81kid]

@@tommysalami420 Knowledge advances and disappears. We're living in a blip in history. And most people think that this will last forever. The myth of human progress. Good luck to you too.

[@TobiasStarling]

It’s predicted in limits to growth by MIT and I think McKinsey track the predictions but currently complete societal collapse is inevitable by 2040 but likely ahead of even then, largely due to inequality promoted by billionaires. Mostly likely they know this and are planning for it.

[@sheldoniusRex]

The billionaires are terrified that the reckoning is coming.

[@papertowelthe6th105]

4:55 this video made an assumption that people expect to maintain their lifestyle in case shit hits the fan. These bunkers may have been built like a 5 star hotel but a prepper known perfectly well lots of things will just stop working in case worst happens...

[@paganlark7037]

Gross, instead of, ya know, helping feed hungry kids or supporting democratic progress, they choose themselves over all else (not just all people, but all life on Earth). What a stunning and disgusting sin against humanity and life.

[@andrewschliewe6392]

And you chose yourself over all else when you eat or buy yourself clothes, or comment on youtube.

[@Dagothdaleet]

Gross that you pay for luxuries like internet and electricity. All while being a stay at home bum

[@andrewschliewe6392]

@@Dagothdaleet Only bum i see is you. I'm a Sr Data Engineer.

[@izzyparis2062]

Seriously disappointing that instead of helping things go better/make improvements/inspire change, that the billionaire class is instead turning inward and more or less just taking care of themselves. Especially given that they would not be billionaires without the general population's support.

[@ifeoluwaadeoye6557]

considering it was their efforts to make their fortunes that created the situation in the first place...

[@doompoison2365]

@izzyparis2062 that's human nature for ya, you want what's best for you and your group and you don't care who you gotta exploit to get there.

[@screwdriver1337]

​@@ifeoluwaadeoye6557do you realise that their effort ends right at the moments when they hire labor, start lobbying politicians or heavily use infrastructure that was built for taxpayers money? These people have managed to start a company, but the company became profitable because of countless smart people working there, not because of one "genius" at the top.

[@philershadi6037]

Horizon Zero Dawn and Fallout have excellent stories about what happens to doomsday preppers.

[@jacklevell9597]

Also the Expanse

[@ijustneedabeer]

@@jacklevell9597 And The Last of Us tv show... what was the guy's name? Did quite well for himself.

[@rattler_boss1101]

​@@ijustneedabeer You mean Ish ? He was no bilionare he was just a fisherman . But he was able to create his own community later on

[@jules_shhh]

If doomsday happens, I'm absolutely running towards the nuclear mushroom. I wasn't built to survive shit.

[@DuhIdiot1]

Ditto. Not only would I be useless in that scenario, but life sucks enough _with_ all our comforts now. F even trying to live in Mad Max.

[@keklord6074]

@@DuhIdiot1 Except living in mad max and raiding shit with your gang is much more compatible with human nature than doing excell all day. We are hunters and gatherers by nature that is how we evolved and and we still are. There is a reason why post-apocalypse in fiction is so popular. Oh and best of all at least as a Hunter gatherer you work for yourself. Not for some asshole who can buy another yatch.

[@Goddot]

yes you were. You're a human being. Suviving the worst shit possible is our specialty. tbf dying in a stupid way is also a specialty of ours, there are more folks dying from falling from the bed than from shark attacks.

[@rockcaster1091]

This remind me to a chapter from World War Z (the book) Where a bodyguard tell how at the start of the apocalypse, famous and millonaire people build a huge zombieproof mansion with everything they need to survive while also broadcasting to the rest of the world The thing is that a few weeks later, thoundands of normal people invade the mansion trying to escape the hordes The bodyguards refuse to shoot desperate people, staff turned agaisnt their bosses and the famous millonaires didn't stand a chance. At the end the mansion got on fire and the whole thing was a mess

[@mahiganti]

Oh shoot, doomsday bunkers are the new loot vaults now when the apocalypse hits

[@makatogonzo]

Ahaha... good point. If we all die, rich people will be left with other rich people. Got it.

[@Mark-se4dr]

and then products and services go down the drain. thus rendering money useless

[@leunam3004]

I am more interested how long it takes until the rich narcissists start to tear each other apart.

[@Mark-se4dr]

@@leunam3004 yeah but y we gotta be collateral!? Wish their actions didn't affect us but here we are :/

[@safebox36]

Given how billionaires reacted during the pandemic, I don't think they even want the end of the world to come about. Half of them handwaved it away as "not a big deal" while the other half started investing in PPE and vaccines to make a quick profit. They want to keep going so long as there's even a single dollar left to make.

[@doogandoggin2571]

Funny how they like building their own fancy tombs. Have you ever seen how you hunt gophers? Scale that up and you have issues.

[@Del_987]

Doomsday prep 101: have antibiotics, ammo, and guns on hand. You can trade or steal whatever you need.

[@andrewmueller23]

How many unfamiliar houses and neighborhoods do you think you can try to rob before you end up dead?

[@kalliaslands9938]

@@Del_987 real doomsday prep. Have a really strong relationship with your neighbors and be well liked in your community. Even a very skilled individual would struggle to survive on their own. Humans are physically very weak but we are good at working together.

[@kalliaslands9938]

@@Del_987 whoops 404 the local policeman turned warlord has executed you for theft. Man is a political animal and there will always be some form of communal or autocratic authority you need to work within.

[@iglidor]

@@kalliaslands9938 This! The "real" preppers have their bunkers within short distance from where they live. Those are communal bunkers, where multiple families live together. And those preppers are already in contact and making bonds between each other so that if worst would happen, that they would know each other and trust each other

[@Tempest-ec2nn]

Why the hell do people forget food and water. They are not important, and will help you live longer than all the guns and ammo in the world. Cheaper too. Not sure why so many gun nut so called doomsday preppers are wannabe warlords in disguise. Plus, if your time horizon for survival is over a year, you will need to know how to farm and have a place to do so. Also, last thing you want to be doing in a lawless society is getting in gunfights. You will eventually lose and infection is a bitch. Stay small, stay quiet, fight if needed, and find good quality friends and rebuild a society capable of taking care of itself(and thus you). Oh, and being able to steal from others because more guns is not self sufficiency.

[@JimRohn-u8c]

Looks like we need to invest in equipment to penetrate doomsday bunkers…

[@vylbird8014]

"Boss? They're just pouring concrete over the door. I don't think they want to get in after all."

[@JimRohn-u8c]

@@vylbird8014 LOL

[@kilburnvideos]

@@vylbird8014 Exactly. They are building their own prisons. And ultimately, their own crypts.

[@matthewguy7863]

The military has these in abundance and variety.

[@mr.fahrenheit7009]

could you even afford is you know being un employed and and all?

[@GentlemanTomcat]

Behind the Bastards podcast just did an episode on the guy who is influencing these tech billionaires and JD Vance to think this way about trying to overthrow the current system and revert to a monarchy.

[@modelermark172]

When I read the portion of Douglas Rushkoff's book, "Survival of the Richest," about where he was hired to give a private speech for the five Hedge Fund billionaires; my first thought was that they were using him as a kind of 'entertainment.' They brought him to their 'secret location' by helicopter and limo with armed guards, and acted like they were cosplaying stereotypical, megalomaniacal "Bond Villains," with questions about 'shock collars,' and such - just to see Mr. Rushkoff's reaction to their outlandish questions, and have a laugh at his expense. Actually, from Mr. Rushkoff's brief account, these guys went past Ian Fleming "Bond Villain" territory, and were acting more like the comic book supervillains depicted in the works of Alex Toth or Jack Kirby. This made me wonder if these five billionaires were acting this way because while growing up watching cartoons like "Johnny Quest," and movies like "James Bond 007;" they thought this is the way billionaire 'oligarchs' were "supposed" to act . . . ? As a sidebar, about a year ago I had made a similar comment on another video on KZbin, (that I can't find again for the life of me,) and actually got a reply from The Man, himself. Mr. Rushkoff said that he had thought the same thing, initially, but then realized these five men were quite serious, and thoroughly emersed in what he had called, "The Mindset." My Like is in the 14Ks

[@beanyrice]

It's very nice of all these billionairs to prepare shelters for us to take from them when the bad times they are causing finally happen

[@TinyBearTim]

If something happens that would require you to personally need a bunker won’t you die inside the thing anyway

[@ano_nym]

You would have a better chance to survive than outside. E.g. nuclear fallout gets exponentially less dangerous with time.

[@TinyBearTim]

@@ano_nym I know but it seems odd that they are seemingly making things for the long term

[@ano_nym]

@@TinyBearTim if you can't think about the long term you will probably not become a billionaire...

[@TinyBearTim]

@@ano_nym if you need to be in a bunker for a prolonged amount of time the chances are quite high that you won’t be leaving it

[@Redmanticore]

depends. maybe its foolish, maybe its not, depending on the scenario. eventually, yes, they would need to go outside. and best scenario is that world is middle ages again, and all their billionaire wealth is gone, and skills are useless. maybe they get lucky and their sons learn a practice like apprenticeship at the local town, like blacksmithing..maybe slavers will get them.

[@zekewalker1350]

I know if nothing else, some construction workers have all the coordinates for where they built these things .

[@tealkerberus748]

Also the government agency that approved the construction, and anyone who has access to satellite images of that area. It's very difficult to keep a large project secret these days.

[@matthewguy7863]

"Batman, Batman, you had them build a lazy susan for your atomic car. They find that conversation worthy."

[@inktea256]

Elon Musk with his underground palace where he expects to be waited on hand and foot: “Surely I’ll survive and no one would betray me!” Me with my basic survival kit, bastard sword, and handbook with practical tools and techniques: “Let’s see who croaks first, Musky.”

[@Stealth86651]

The issue is no matter what eventually something will break and they won't have the parts or knowhow to fix it. Probably wouldn't take longer than a few years for the first problems to start popping up, especially if something apocalyptic actually does happen.

[@thanosianthemadtitanic]

" And said to the mountains and rocks, Fall on us, and hide us from the face of him that sitteth on the throne"

[@coolgamer2135]

No way your talking with that pfp of your's.

[@thanosianthemadtitanic]

@@coolgamer2135 that's big talk "coolgamer2135"

[@oliveira3864]

we are a couple decades of real life vault tec

[@NightmareRex6]

and vault tech is atualy the ones that set off the nukes, its gonna be those building these things that set them off.

[@angelsy1975]

The best Doomsday prep is Doomsday prevention. The second best is... classified.

[@sushantkurren2562]

The man who sleeps with a machete is a fool every night but one.

[@EricT01]

That's a good quote.

[@Cs13762]

for most people that would mean they're just a fool period and might want to lay off the crack pipe

[@mattdombrowski8435]

Nah, more like a stopped clock is right twice a day.

[@streetstroller]

Man who go to bed with machete wake up woman.

[@kennyleung9909]

Unless the intruder has a gun. Then the man is a fool every night, period.

[@mattdesantis2628]

Money is the only reason why people are loyal to them. When money is worthless. They will have no loyalty

[@aleyoakenshield5384]

They will have to replace their servants and guards with robots and then the only humans they'll be able to interact with will be their families who hate them more than the looters do. Ironically I think the only way to stay safe and at the top of the hierarchy would be if they save some tens of thousands of people (not in their own bunker, but in many bunkers close by) and they take responsibility for organising and protecting those people. By keeping them safe and managing food production etc for all of them they might be able to institute a kind of monarchy.

[@bigdapramirez6157]

It would be really sad if the apocalypse happened and the only remnants of humanity left standing were the most selfish among us

[@rattler_boss1101]

Imagine only ppl left will be Bill Gates , Kim Kardashian and Jeff Bezos . No thanks

[@Ludak021]

When electricity goes 0 their wealth also goes 0 + whatever of worth, to someone in a post apocalyptic world, they have. And it's not a watch or diamonds, not even gold.

[@Ziegfried82]

Gold had value way before electricity, and will have value so long as humans roam the Earth.

[@DarkZodiacZZ]

@@Ziegfried82 Maybe it will, maybe it won't. My guess is people will use what is convenient to them so maybe a mix of local currencies and bartering systems.

[@Pacemaker_fgc]

​@@Ziegfried82Shiny metal by itself is worthless. Gold does not have inherent value.

[@connorferguson2269]

shhhhh, don't warn them that those things are deathtraps.

[@rattler_boss1101]

Weld doors shut , seal airways . Then rebuild the world without them

[@the1exnay]

After thinking about it for a few minutes, i think the solution is this: make sure only you know the code to get in the bunker. Then have everyone have equally nice accommodations. And accept that you won’t remain in control If you know the code then they’re incentivised to bring you with them to the bunker. And then after that, they’re probably not too upset at the person who gave them a way to survive the apocalypse. And not all apocalypses are created equal. Some of your wealth might survive, and if so you can share it with the good friends that rode out the apocalypse with you (but you can only do that if you survive)

[@SwinceBall]

I never thought I would hear about accelerationism here!

[@antoninuslarpus7107]

And it was a good explanation, too. Now, the chaos in the world makes a lot of sense. (Also, Swinceball Jumpscare, I love your vids)

[@christineheery]

Who tf wants to live in a destroyed apocalyptic world? Not me. I’d rather get taken out.

[@stevenb891]

Reminds me of Kristen Wiggs character from last man on earth

[@bigsteveh999]

Kid named "Militia with jackhammers and thermite" 👀