THE IMPACT OF ADHD ON THE BRAIN: Trauma & Stigma

Join Psych2Go for the EPIC CROSSOVER! Dr.K from Healthy Gamer, and Patrick Teahan, sit down with Michelle Rivas, one of the incredible hosts behind @Psych2go as she sits down with HealthyGamer's Dr.K and Patrick Teahan to discuss why so many people struggle with ADHD and how it impacts the brain! Get your questions answered LIVE! Wednesday, October 18th @12pm PST/3pm EST
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[@Shellie95]

Hello everyone! What did you guys think of our expert panel interview? Any feedback for me? Sound off in the comments!

[@Amadioh]

No feedback from me but thanks for asking

[@Dopefish84]

I would suggest the live chat be more closely monitored. There was a spammer throughout the panel.

[@sm8155]

Segue is pronounced seg way ❤ Great interview!

[@AdrienneZazulak]

encourage a shake it off(as hard as you can!) dance party beforehand. Everyone seemed a bit nervous!

[@mookbonganon]

You need chat moderators. Excellent discussion. Well done 😊

[@patrickteahanofficial]

Thanks for having me Michelle and Psych2go! Also thank you to those submitting questions! Loved the chat!

[@emrld_wz]

Adored listening to you. Thank you for participating ❤

[@ErnieLG]

Love both these guys.

[@sm8155]

I'm curious about possible differences in dysregulation. Like, trauma dysregulation has roots in infancy with a mother with poor mirroring and mentalization so there's not just inability to discharge frustration or cope with sadness or other negative affect, but the window of tolerance is also narrowed with reduced capacity for positive emotions, so you'll see limited capacity for joy and alexithymia. Does the dysregulation associated with adhd also feature limited capacity for joy?

[@Psych2go]

The pleasure is ours!

[@amberfuchs398]

I'd love for you and Dr. K to do your own conversation around childhood trauma together on one of your channels and get some more back and forth.

[@Madchris8828]

One of the most frustrating problems i dealt with in college was them telling me that ADHD is not a valid diagnosis to receive help in any sort of way from the staff. Im hoping things are better for newer generations, that crushed me. Might as well have said "sucks to be you". I still muddled through but had to essentially destroy my social life entirely to even do that

[@andromedaihs4249]

Firstly im so sorry to hear that 🥺 it’s completely not fair that you were made to feel like that as a student. Every single person should be allowed to be in a learning environment where they feel adequately supported and validated I did just wanna say it is getting better! Although i didnt benefit from it that much as i am now 5th year and about to graduate..my university in australia has an equitable learning services plan on offer for students with adhd. I benefited from it immensely (last term) bc i was able to have tutors aware of my condition without me needing to bring it up!..its not the kind of conversation i want to have to explain in detail to every working professional i encounter..not only that but i was offered a 1-week extension for my assignments that term (as an extra added layer of support!) so I wouldn’t feel as stressed..but what i love about my school is the fact that it’s arranged in a way that still encourages those of us with adhd to still hand it in on time and do our best. But if you need a break ..that’s also ok ❤ Kind of like a hey. Reminder. We as the university in general actually do wanna see you succeed! PS: its not by any means perfect bc lmao i didnt know such help existed until my last year of uni..[visibility issues of these support systems are still a thing] but hey at least its a step in the right direction!

[@Madchris8828]

@andromedaihs4249 thank you for sharing. That'd good to hear about and at least it's a good movement in the right direction

[@rachel_sj]

Wow! A Psych2Go, Patrick Teahan, AND Dr. K Supergroup collab episode?!? Christmas came early this year!!

[@Psych2go]

Thanks for watching! Any feedback for the host? She wrote the questions and chose the guests for this episode!🙂

[@hildia5439]

All my favorite healthy mind people in one place! ❤❤❤

[@neuroqueercoach]

I was late diagnosed because my adhd displayed mostly as maladaptive daydreaming or sorta hyper focusing on schoolwork. I had a few teachers who hated me because I would do my homework or read through class, which made me come off as inattentive, but most of my teachers loved me because I was clever and would deep dive into the topic I was being taught. But I still definitely have trauma regarding my weird over excitement, which lead to lack of friends my own age, or the childhood abuse from my parents over my "selective hearing," which was really just them not getting my attention first.

[@quendelf]

I really REALLY relate to this. I've had a similar experience.

[@animefangrl0902]

I love that this video can help individuals like myself who have ADHD.

[@Shellie95]

Any feedback for me (the host)?:)

[@animefangrl0902]

@@Shellie95 you did a good job!

[@april6620]

Yay! My 2 favorite psych dudes! Patrick and Dr k have helped me so much, over the past couple years (since I've been following them). Much love, respect and appreciation for you both.

[@Psych2go]

Thank you for watching! What did you learn from watching the stream? Any feedback for the host?🙂

[@ladycilla9661]

I was diagnosed with ADHD when I was 35. It took me 30 years to realize the shame put onto me by my kindergarten teacher has negatively impacted the perception of myself. I masked most of my life to mold my behaviors to what I thought everyone around me or society thought how I should behave or who I should be. The self-judgement, self-rejection, lack of self-esteem and self-confidence and the need to please others to feel loved and accepted led to trauma in various aspects and relationships within my life. I’m grateful I’m finally getting the healing I need and have the strength to be and live my most authentic self.

[@Madchris8828]

I cant even explain how validating so much of this information was, and how close it mirrors my childhood. Thank you. My parents tried hard but often the schools didnt to help me.

[@Psych2go]

Thank you for watching! Any feedback for the host about the stream?:-)

[@Madchris8828]

@Psych2go no other than that they were both great guests and the host did a good job of keeping things on track for discussion purposes as well

[@CryptoCam93]

Two of my favorite mental health KZbinrs Dr. K and Patrick Teahan taking about the disorder I have, ADHD! Couldn't have asked for a better combo to cover it, love you guys!

[@launacasey6513]

they are my favorites too!

[@jessantoinette556]

I know ADHD isn't diagnosed or considered a disorder unless there is impairment. But what about kids/people with ADHD "brain wiring" who were able to find ways to compensate and adapt to a neuro typical environment? If we are able to identify ADHD characteristics and confirm differences in brain function, wouldn't it be prudent to modify the environment and focus on building skill sets before the condition becomes a disorder? I think we understand (and I know from personal experience) there's a lot of added stress neurodivergent people undergo to keep up with neurotypical people and might this stress lead to depression later in life? What if we could get in front of the problem instead of reacting to it?

[@GaiaPrem]

Great to meet Dr.K., and in combi with my favorite “Guru”, Patrick Teahan! How does it get any better than this! I can’t wait for Dr.K and Patrick to get together and create more shows!

[@RoasterRoaster]

Wow ❣️ two of my favorite therapists on my favorite channel Psych2Go 😍

[@benhagstrom2185]

ADHD is so frustrating. Im "supposed" to be so smart but cant even do regular things like call the plumber or pay the electric bill on time. I "didnt have it" as a kid because it was a "fake disease" and now I "don't have it" as an adult b3cause I wasnt diagnosed as a kid. This is why you guys are so important, to help those of us that fell through the cracks!

[@christianlynsutton8259]

Pertaining “Escapsim”, I think that’s more about the lack of safety and security in the core and inner wounds. I believe I do this also, but it’s not purposely to escape or disassociate from reality, but in my reality there’s limited safety and security outside of me. So I tend to daydream while in the unsafe place. Meaning there’s some safety, and done unsafety all at the same time.

[@ritray8575]

How is this collab even real... I couldn't believe it for a minute there

[@Seth-vj8vm]

As somone who was diagnosed with adhd at a young age, I never knew what that meant. My mother always tried to tell me that I'm still great just the way I am, but she never taught me how I was different, or why I would struggle in school. All I knew was I had 4 little letters that were a part of me. It wasn't until I reached adulthood and started noticing all my friends and a handful of content creators with adhd and how they think and cope that I finally started to understand that it wasn't just that I wasn't trying hard enough.

[@infinitecurlie]

Patrick and Dr. K are amazing!!!

[@andrewmutua4665]

DREAM COLLAB

[@Vampress09]

Omg Patrick Teahan x Dr K is a dream collab!! I have been dying to see them have a discussion.

[@nikstar1313]

Omg Patrick has saved my life..excited to see him here!

[@DawnDreams]

Great chat. To that last question- I think that psychiatrists "objectivey" is an outsider look at ADHD , where the diagnosis is about how much you disrupted others. Now, with social media, people are seeing an internal perspective of what it is like. It always seemed normal to us to be this way (and our families act like that too). So we didn't see ourselves in the diagnostic criteria from an outside perspective. We do see ourselves in people's personal reflection.

[@theseeker1237]

Outstanding! Two brilliant men, sharing there wisdom, it was a blessing.

[@tracyzimmerman7912]

I watch all three of you guys. Each one of you has a different approach to mental health. What would make this Collab better is for it to be more freeform.

[@nicolesaintdenis]

Trauma first always! That shows up everywhere

[@Bette-of7cm]

Excellent questions with valuable insight in the responses from knowledgeable, compassionate & intriguing presenters!

[@Psych2go]

Thank you so much!:-)

[@AdrienneZazulak]

Patrick you did amazing!! loved your insights. Thank you so much for sharing.

[@evoloxe]

Oh look it's the two people that convinced me to go to therapy all together in one stream. Yay! 3 years going strong!

[@NosajPrimo]

I have ADHD i am a 60s scoop and millennial scoop survivor deconditioning my brain starting a positive new change in Calgary Alberta Downtown

[@melissachinnici]

Oh. My. GOSH. My two fav YT channels Dr. K and Patrick Teahan together??DREAMS DO COME TRUE.

[@Sailorlyoko4life4ever]

I seem to have an issue with social interactions at every job i have. Last one fired me for it. Im told I'm great with customers and customer service at most jobs, my sometimes I say the wrong thing and people take it the wrong way. How am I supposed to manage EVERY social problem in society and keep on top of it all?! I love talking to people, but hate that im not suppose to connect with others in most jobs unless its a business job and you trying to sucker them into buying something. ( i hate those jobs.) Also, what kind of jobs are best with my ADHD? Where I'm least likely to say the wrong thing but can also help people?

[@isteaimportant]

omg is that Dr. K from the hit channel Healthygamergg

[@calebcash9242]

Literally a LEGENDARY collab

[@miss2slick]

Loved this collab. Thank you.

[@markmuller7962]

I've been undiagnosed for 40 years, it's definitely hard and has been hard from the beginning

[@oliviae1861]

great engaging questions from the host and i absolutely loved both guests, only critiques would be that id want more back and forth free discussion for each segment and also maybe some better questions from the viewer comments

[@kdjourney51]

❤Patrick ❤Dr. K

[@alison5009]

I am exhausted

[@aprilpryor2332]

I love the references to maladaptive daydreaming. It's a new concept to me, and it needs more awareness.

[@silverly0]

Its MY HEALING MENTORS ALL IN ONE VIDEO HOLY SHIT THIS IS AMAZING

[@hellodannifay]

Omg I watch all 3 of these channels and I’m shook you guys did video together ❤❤❤❤❤

[@testigo2]

i need dr.k to interview patrick please

[@LeftNamesNO]

As someone with a dissociative identity disorder: sometimes I really wonder if your brain kind of braids all your senses into one experience and the more stressed you are, the more information gets filtered out. Because our senses are physical information that gets processed by the brain, ptsd starts to form when the other senses are not possible to be processed later because processing those feelings meant something they gained a sense of safety or belonging from is actually not as safe or homing as they thought. Panic attacks or bore-outs are the brain rushing through the backed up information

[@devynrowe7492]

I feel like the question being asked in psychology today about adhd could be summed up as, which came first the trauma or the adhd?

[@BalajeeKs]

Never expected this collaboration between my mental health gurus

[@Rando.Rainstorm]

I think, IME, isolation and cptsd has much to attribute to my adhd CPTSD, an 80's kid.

[@fairygurl9269]

💞 Gratitude

[@Rae-eu1zb]

This is such a treat! Three of my favourite yt channels collaborating

[@flea10x6]

Trauma for an ADHD child- I recall a kid in first grade “couldn’t sit still or be quiet.”So teacher duck taped him to his chair and moved him away from everyone else. As he wouldn’t stop talking, she then duck taped his mouth closed.

[@minimalistmartian9744]

Omg this is crazy I watch all three of y’all!!!

[@cup_o_TMarie]

Oooooh two of my FAVORITE mental health professionals 👏🤩💝 Thumbs up before listening because I KNOW this will be fire🤩

[@natalieengleman2753]

I would like to say here that while I enjoyed the video, it's actually just a myth that ADHD is hereditary. It's actually not, it's all nurture. According to Dr. Gabor Mate who is an expert on trauma, addiction, and childhood development says that during infancy, a time in a person's life when their brains are developing the most and when they are the most helpless and vulnerable, if parents let's say have unresolved trauma and are highly stressed out, they're not going to be able to nurture the infant in a way that the infant needs to be nurtured. Because of that since the infant is so incredibly helpless, all they can do is tune it out, and since this coping mechanism was so adaptive, it stays with them despite it being maladaptive later on. Another thing to add to that, is that there actually has been an increase in ADHD in the past twenty or thirty years and genes don't change that quickly, (as a matter of fact genes actually take a million generations or about 25 million years to change). Now, as for the reason behind the increase in ADHD in recent decades is that people are living an increasingly more stressed and frenzied lifestyle than they did in the past. So, anyway that's my two cents. Boy, that felt good to get that out!

[@launacasey6513]

I'm guilty of overpathologizing things.

[@user-oe8ri9bj4j]

I'm not good with my words which make me unable to express or share these ideas with my friends and family. And I really really want to share them but the people around me have very different personalities that are hard to talk to about these topics that I want to share with them. There are also those that I can talk to about it but they are the type of people that don't need this improvement. What should I do to express my feedback about them in a way that will not hurt them and also to not hesitate saying it. And also thank you for all of the amazing video about mental health you have been providing It helps me alot

[@aminahmed2220]

Awesome video ❤😊

[@cup_o_TMarie]

Lord yes I was constantly told by a math teacher that I was going to “Miss the boat” and I was a Beta Club student for whom math was a major challenge, not a bad student overall. All this while going through the major trauma of sexual & substance abuse at home🤪

[@dennisal1481]

Why so negative? My kids, my wife and i have Adhd. Yes we had or have some struggles but for us its a blessing to have. I learned that you have to find what fits by you. My adhd and my wife's adhd fits with the work we do. I can analyze problems and projects faster than anyone. My wife has energy for two. My kids are doing very good at school. Maybe it depends on the country, in the Netherlands there is very good support for adhd also at schools. They get good help when needed.

[@hannahbunny2773]

It is 1000% because you’re in the Netherlands. Education within the US is incredible different and unsupportive of neurodivergent people.

[@dennisal1481]

@hannahbunny2773 , that's sad to hear. In the Netherlands, there is so much support for students who need more help. My son got help when he was 6 years old. With the help, he has grown so fast. His dream is to work for ESA later.

[@hansonel]

@@hannahbunny2773Cultural differences and conditioning for a lack of better word. Patrick got close to it in the question about porn addiction and how different cultures view sex and such. The American education system guides students on a path to eventually be employees who follow rules in general and people who don't fit that model are seen as not "fitting in" to society. The Netherlands and Scandanvia seems to be a bit more open minded and flexible about possible paths.

[@hannahbunny2773]

@@hansonel exactly, in my state abstinence is taught and not safe sex. There is high amounts of shaming in my state (utah). Though this isn’t true in all of the US it is the way my community was raised.

[@nicolesaintdenis]

My favorite people ❤

[@sandy-intro]

Love Patrick and his videos ❤

[@cameron2506]

Good timing. Recently diagnosed with adhd. Now 36. Have a my appointment for starting meds the 31/10

[@niasiamack9333]

Amazing video

[@Simply_Human23]

This is was really informative, interesting that I arrived at this video today but to the point regarding ADHD, I don't know if I have it simply meaning I have not been diagnosed by a Dr but I have considered the possibility and according to some articles on this subject individuals who are born with specific medical conditions have a higher likelihood of also having ADHD, I have a perticuler diagnosed medical condition involving motor function I also have mild synthesia thus it's possible I may also have the other condition, but until I know for certain I tend to avoid assuming anything via self diagnosing I only speak to my diagnosed condition, I'd rather not guess regardless of how many times someone or something has implied that I have ADHD. I've gotten this assumption several times in recent years example question/reaction are you sure you don't have ADHD? I'm like until someone qualified to diagnose me can confirm it. I don't know. ADHD symptoms can be tricky to figure out unless you're trained to understand the symptoms as the individuals on the pannel are. the symptoms can also mimic autism, I'm familiar with Autism as someone close to me is Autistic hence I have a slight understanding of how the two conditions can be similar thus I prefer not to try and tackle and diagnose serious norilogical conditions on my own, it will remain a mystery for now but I've seen many videos in which individuals said they have not seen a specialist but feel that they have ADHD. I think it's great that we have more information available but I think it's best to be as sure as we can rather than risking misdiagnosing another neurological condition for ADHD.

[@ThroughTheLensOfAutism]

My doctors say I have autism, but I show symptoms of ADHD also.

[@karenfausto]

Exijo los subtítulos. Si bien entiendo unas partes del video, otras no y realmente me importa el tema :(

[@mhegland3271]

I always had teachers say “pleasure to have in class and daydreams in class”. I graduated in 1988. No iphones.

[@comfycat9]

Nice! Excited to see this video.

[@devynrowe7492]

The birthday party comment struck a nerve!

[@Windows96_]

This is a more iconic crossover than the Avengers…

[@SmileyReilly]

Ayo?!? This is the crossover episode I never thought I needed?????

[@lorenzwinterhoff8049]

AuDHD, Gifted, and Deafness, not to forget the medical side of my life, AND I was a guinea pig kid for putting deaf kids in French immersion language programs here in Canada. I'm screwed from the start, bring on the CPTSD Oh yeah, obviously I was bullied at school, but I also was the scapegoat in a narcissistic family system, so I had antagonists at every level.

[@Solarpunk_SciFi]

I wouldn't recommend the running thing, I once felt horrible about having broken my good habits and decided I could at least channel that frustration into a jog, and a few minutes later I almost fainted in the middle of a forest, due to running way too fast! I didn't know some ppl recommended it back then, but I ain't doing that every again, I'm pretty sure it's dangerous.

[@PearlMarianneGibas]

Thanks for the content

[@lifeisbeautiful7047]

My 3 favorite therapists

[@cingyahhoih9844]

Were the live chat

[@donross8725]

It seems as though there would be a third component in addition to the genetic and nurture components to the condition. Dr. K was ver close to it when he talked about nurture. I’m referring to an epigenetic component, where parent’s activity to remediate the impacts of challenges related to frontal lobe and executive functioning result in new neural pathways that may change what genetic component is passed on to, and possibly expressed, in their progeny.!

[@KxNOxUTA]

Ooooh Dr.K :D

[@CRYZTALSUBZZ]

Can you please make a video about selective mutism? (If you do please don’t talk about children who has it I’m tired of it)

[@Heezbungus]

Yay

[@Dcaleb2023]

The host is beautiful and intelligent🔥😘

[@JolinHard]

She made things awkward

[@hansonel]

@@JolinHard I agree as a fan of this channel. After seeing 2 interviews of her with Dr. K. now at various points she kind of seemed to be "phoning it in" or not really engaged with the guests... or even seeming distracted (by her phone?... Moderating comments in the chat?) I could tell some of the vauge questions were starting to annoy Patrick Teahan after a while also. Would have rather seen Patrick and Dr. K have a conversation about ADHD honestly.

[@jonnysokkoatduckdotcom]

It would be nice to find a good counselor. How can I find one?

[@issac7787]

41:00

[@Kate-it7cn]

Airheads!

[@wongpentelglobal]

Omg im out of the three creators not just patrick teahan.

[@cingyahhoih9844]

First first and good vids

[@qqqqqq960]

Don't tell me dr.k is indian

[@rozhan1410]

free palestine

[@JolinHard]

No.

[@kayrinkaj]

😅

[@rozhan1410]

what do you mean no ? and you are laughing at 7000 people who had died in paletstine? and 2000 of them are just kids ? and 6000 people who got injured ? if you are you are not human and you dont have a hart

[@KaptajnKaffe]

What was that dig at capitalism?

[@dumbomagoo]

Anyone else have to rewind this like 500 times to get through it because of the damn live chat being so distracting? God damn ADHD lol

[@LaTanyaBellow-w9m]

hi

[@Flyingpaper799]

IM SELECTIVELY MUTE PLS HELP IM THE SILENT QUIET KID@Psych2Go

[@krishnabrahma395]

My 3 favourite 🥹🌻 thank you all of you

[@animefangrl0902]

I love that this video can help individuals like myself who have ADHD.