The Impossible Downfall of Sergio Oliva

[@Iron.Historian]

1972 was bodybuilding's first controversial Mr. Olympia. Do you think Sergio got robbed or did Arnold deserve the title?

[@Игорь-р6л3ы]

Sergio had way better upper-lower body balance, probably due to his weightlifting roots (eventhough Arnold started there as well 😂, but didn't proceed to Olympics level) but Weiders were looking for a poster boy for the broader masses... Turned out to be the right choice in the end.... As for the win, it wasn't a robbery by any means, but Sergio had the better body... Maybe didn't present it as good as he should have

[@Live2die555]

Arnold is a bodybuilding Tom Brady

[@Gargarks]

Both. I think on a matter of physique both had their strengths, but were equal in the sight of the judges who were having a hard time deciding. Arnold's trickery arguably gave him the win, but it's impossible to say he wouldn't have won anyway. Arnold hanging around for a last couple of poses was all it took to convince the judges, then Sergio never had it to begin with.

[@Neu-z7y]

Robbed

[@PotHead98]

I don't think Arnold deserved any of his titles. Go look at all his wins he was not the best there. Maybe once

[@cmb4488]

The more of these documentaries I watch, the more shocked I get as I learn how corrupt the Olympia is.

[@nathanielovaughn2145]

Thank those disgusting weiders.

[@51909relapseminem]

It might not mean much but it's nice that Sergio was the inspiration for Biscuit Oliva in Baki

[@samuelaubrey2612]

love Baki, its so over the top , nothing quite like it

[@malmonti]

I rarely get as excited as I get when this channel uploads. Such great content for bodybuilding fans.

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you for watching, hope you enjoy!

[@Ksmoove39]

I feel like Sergio and Nubret were both phenoms

[@iammusic0099]

man i just got finished rewatching the Dorian Yates docu for the 5th time, when i checked your channel, this popped up. Thank You!

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks for watching!

[@nothing3887]

This is so true. The rewatchability on Iron Historian’s videos is one of the best man

[@brettjosh]

Elite documentaries, definitely appreciate the research you put into these🙏

[@Drplaguescp049]

Real recognizes real, love your channel Josh

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks mate! 🙌

[@PotHead98]

Wake up bro The Iron Historian dropped a new vid

[@Iron.Historian]

🔥🔥

[@terrystrand]

I knew Sergio for many years... he was a cop and I was a paramedic in Chicago... Oliva was a real man doing real work protecting Chicago citizens against dirtbags for his whole career. Most of the other 'pro's' were gym bums, mirror athletes, whose only activity was shaving their pecs. Sergio was always in shape, never dieted hence his 'smoothness'. Basically Weider screwed him, only letting him guest pose after he traveled to Europe to compete against Arnold... because Oliva competed in a 'competitor's' contest. Joe and Ben Weirdo were great at screwing their guys, yet retired with hundreds of millions of dollars while paying the bb's peanuts. Also they never supported any charities, only themselves.

[@John-du2mq]

The Weider is a shit bag and the IFBB has always been corrupt.

[@V3n.]

Why do I always find it impossible to believe these types of comments

[@kennethd4958]

I don’t see why other pros not doing “real work” matters?

[@thehomefront1905]

@@terrystrand Why should they give to charity? You have no right to tell someone what they should do with their own money. You've got a nerve. Kid.

[@TetrAggro]

@@V3n. Maybe look into it a bit?

[@mensb1936]

Haven't heard a story of Arnold where he wasn't a scumbag

[@nathanielovaughn2145]

That's because a scumbag is all that tosser has ever been.

[@near5596]

The more I learn about Arnold, the more I dislike him

[@gregarious6662]

As you should.

[@lichtsoldat7697]

Unfortunately.....that is true. I feel the same.

[@heavymetal1ization]

ever since he lost to baki he was never the same

[@vincentplucknett5181]

Bob Paris next please!

[@daveyadict_]

Bob is one of my favorite physiques ever

[@JohnBeattie_]

This is my favorite channel on KZbin. I know it must take forever to make these documentary style videos and it’s appreciated.

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you! I appreciate the support 🙏

[@rickbackous1041]

I know Arnold and the Weiders did a lot for bodybuilding, but Arnold should have won maybe half the Mr. Olympia's that he won. There were many better than Arnold. To name just a few Zane, Nubret and Oliva were all better consistently. I guess that's the risk you take when you are involved in judged sports.

[@AZeneki]

Zane was NEVER better than Arnold, after his first O. win, moving forward. 😂

[@rickbackous1041]

@@AZeneki In your opinion

[@Ogahz94]

@@rickbackous1041 yours is also an opinion, not a fact.

[@lichtsoldat7697]

Well put. I agree. Maybe not Zane though. Arnold was better than Zane.

[@GTP2-zg9tn]

In the 1968 IFBB Mr. Universe show Arnold was FAT and CALF LESS, so he lost to Frank Zane with Sergio presenting the Awards to Zane. You are correct about other physiques being better than Arnold like Robby Robinson, Mike Mentzer, Boyer Coe, Scott Wilson, Sergio Oliva, Serge Nubret, Bill Pearl (who Arnold chickened out against in the 1971 NABBA Universe), Casey Viator (who Arnold refused to be photographed next to at the Nautilus Center) and others. Arnold was never the best physique, only the Weider's best Marketing Tool. After 1970, Arnold could no longer enter Non-IFBB shows in order for the Weider's to protect their Arnold investment from losing to outside IFBB judging. It's just business.

[@BarbellFilms]

Wow, blown away by the quality here- just excellent! What a fun watch, great job!

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks a lot mate, glad you liked it! Please keep up the good work 🙏

[@jonfernandez8027]

It's bittersweet. Unparalleled genetics not being exposed to Arnold's level. Yes, it would've been amazing seeing Sergio in Predator and/or Pumping Iron - now knowing that he refused the cast for both seems incomplete. But Sergio is above Hollywood and its recognitions. Sometimes hard work and ineffable talent/genetics is its own reward - that's what Sergio is to me.

[@Danimal77]

Incredible documentary! Thanks!

[@jonnyjonasjohnson3650]

People often say: Ronnie Coleman was the biggest freak of all time; there will never be another bodybuilder like him. Well, there already was, and his name was Sergio Oliva.

[@rickswordfire4774]

He is back with another banger For April Fools, you should do a short doc about Dom Mazzetti

[@Iron.Historian]

Dom Mazzetti: the man who never skips legs

[@jaydog77]

BRO SCIENCE

[@Shemerell]

your channel is golden. your documentaries should be on netflix. keep going bro pls.

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you 🙏

[@Marvellous.Misfit]

Sad sad stuff. A dubious machine was working against Sergio but he was blessed to prevail in certain instances, maybe taking over from the great Bill Pearl as the new Mr.Universe might have been best.

[@whack-yl2fq]

Yes the video I asked for!!!! Thank you so much! No one bother me for the next 45 minutes

[@bradenbagby4431]

Another amazing video I know these things must take forever to make. Keep up the classic bodybuilding documentaries cuz nobody does them better

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks a lot! Will do 🙏

[@remme6]

Isn't it coincidental that just before he was ready to go out onstage to collect the title he deserved, they strangely find a "scoring error".

[@추선우-d4p]

the best bodybuilding documentary in da game bro keep on the good work!!!:)

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks for the support!

[@jokinestor9091]

you know its gonna be a banger day when Iron Historian drops a new bodybuilding documentary

[@deansheppard1104]

1:13 Frank Zane also beat Arnold in a Mr Olympia, I think it was in 78 or close by that date. Edit: yeah it was on 68 but it wasn't the Olimpia, it was the mr america. Soo i was wrong but still Arnold lost in another competition against frank zane, besides olivia and zane i dont Remember Arnold losing to anybody else but i might be wrong.

[@Iron.Historian]

He lost to Zane in the 68 IFBB Mr Universe. Besides Zane and Oliva, Arnold also lost to Chet Yorton and these were the only three guys who ever beat him

[@deansheppard1104]

@@Iron.Historian thanks, yeah I missed yorton one. Also by the way been loving the content, also Soo Manny great bodybuilders to cover.

[@jakefoley9539]

He actually did it. He included a Baki reference.

[@discernment8963]

I'm 66 and still training. I've been training since before Arnold's initial retirement. Obviously Sergio's always been 1 of THE guy's. A Freak of Freak's. There was a story I 1st heard back in the 70s that sounds IMPOSSIBLE, but with Sergio, ya never know. There was a Gym legend that Oliva Bench 350lb, 50 time's on 1 of those insane Gym day's when you're just in that "Zone". I've heard it off/on over the years, but never substantiated.

[@jjrecon3024]

The OG mass monster at only 228 Wow! Bravo Sergio!

[@Howdoifixthat]

I have watched every single video at least twice and most even more now. Hands down the best body building history mini documentaries anywhere. If there were an Olympia for body building history this channel would have the Victory without any doubt.

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you so much! 🙏

[@EorlundGraymane163]

Are you planning on doing an episode on Arnold or do you think the 2023 documentary did enough

[@Iron.Historian]

The netflix one was good enough, it didn’t delve too much into his bodybuilding life since they had other ground to cover, there might be a place to go deeper into his controversies.

[@glasgowtravellers8729]

So glad to see uve uploaded mate happy Sunday imdeed

[@Iron.Historian]

Enjoy!

[@getsmart3701]

Great documentary mate, I haven't followed bodybuilding since the early 90's but always watch your uploads for the information, the entertainment and the wild and weird world of bodybuilding.

[@bryanbrozy4477]

Keep these top notch documentaries coming. I love when i a notification that there is a new one. Your channel is definitely going to blow up soon!

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you!!

[@Blondeguylifts]

Hey Iron Historian! I have to say I love your videos. The videos are near perfection, please never stop sharing the amazing history of this sport! 💪

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks a lot for the support!

[@railasvuo]

I hardly know anything about him. Great to learn from this documentary. Thank you

[@Iron.Historian]

Enjoy!

[@kennethd4958]

I love seeing a new video by you.. I’ll rewatch your other ones over and over and seeing a new one pop up is like Christmas morning when I was a kid haha. Always great content and well researched.

[@Iron.Historian]

I really appreciate that and I’m very glad the videos mean that much to you 🙏

[@mykaljam]

More I hear about Arnold the more I realize he ain't a nice guy

[@humorouserrectis5791]

Wow another amazing documentary! Thank you for this it is fantastic

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks for watching!

[@rationalmuscle]

Imagine what he could have done with modern training and nutrition and PEDs

[@lichtsoldat7697]

He would be scary! lol Such freakish genetics! Incredible to say the least.

[@sagnikbalo9544]

Amazing Documentaries! ❤❤

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you!

[@alexandrelevasseur4186]

This is great.keep up the great work. Do you have plans for bronze era or silver documentaries? or is the golden era upward more your niche.

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you! I intend to cover all eras, but for now I’m doing golden and mass monster as they’re the most popular

[@zackbeer5630]

Please do one for lee Haney

[@Iron.Historian]

You got it

[@bradynh8917]

Love listening to these during my workouts! Love the channel please keep it up

[@narutohenaruto]

You brought quality content back to the world of bodybuilding! Amazing content brother!

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks for watching buddy! 🙏

[@lt.petemaverickmitchell7113]

What a FIRST CLASS documentary about genuine bodybuilding legend!

[@Iron.Historian]

Glad you liked it!

[@ValerieKane-xn7ey]

Thank you so much for your high quality videos!

[@Iron.Historian]

Glad you like them! Thanks for watching

[@russianmuffin6572]

Love the content ❤

[@babygravey]

Been a police officer and mr olympia aint nuffin but a peanut

[@bhishmapitamah287]

no fukin way I just opened your channel today morning like "oh it's sunday time to watch another documentary from iron historian" but then realised I watched all of them and now I am blessed with another one :)

[@Iron.Historian]

Right on time

[@BXRSVRK]

My friend told me you posted so I'm immediately here!! Cant wait!!

[@Iron.Historian]

Enjoy!

[@kronker123]

yet another absolutely incredible Iron Historian video.

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you! 🙏

[@eselff]

best bodybuilding documentary channel uploads and immediately Sunday feels better didn't know much about Sergio so looking forward to learning 🙂 Kevin Levrone waiting room next...

[@matchhunter7012]

No choice but to reward you with my sub. Love your work 👏🏾

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you! 🙏

[@daveyadict_]

I need a lee hamey and lee labrada doc now

[@bidjadboulefred]

BROOOO can u plz make a video of ramon dino next ?

[@the.hailer]

These documentaries are so fun, post more!

[@Iron.Historian]

Will do

[@diabiest4595]

I love these documentaries. Finally something to watch and learn about bodybuilding again

[@rojoloco3911]

It’s incredible how genetically gifted he was. I remember when I was young, lifting weights eating as much as I could or I thought I was anyway ha ha ha, but looking in the mirror and not even being able to tell that I went to the gym at all.

[@iamcorneliu1097]

Probably to this day, best genetics the sport has ever seen

[@Iron.Historian]

Facts

[@lichtsoldat7697]

Yup, I agree.

[@itxchriss1]

you gonna do one on kevin levrone?

[@Michael_john_mentzer]

extremely underrated chanel

[@Iron.Historian]

🙏🙏

[@TristanHolmes-yo9bo]

Those Weider did a number on Sergio smh.Im glad they keep it real and told the truth

[@empressvibes1990]

They collectively ruined his career. With the hate and jealousy

[@unnamed3893]

42:18 is legendary

[@shadowblack10]

That shit was hilarious

[@Vicerel]

Caught a glimpse of the Baki character which I didn’t know was based on Sergio’s couple of years ago, the waist on the character looked impossibly tiny considering the physique it was supporting turns out as wacky and trippy as Baki is with its designs the author wasn’t far off, a truly mythical human being.

[@FarTooDiesel]

Fantastic content per usual!

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you!🙏

[@PitasHD]

Amazing work once again!

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you!!

[@johanmorelx]

"The place that is took tonight. It doesn't matter, eight, nine, one, seventeen, twenty, no matter what... I will be forever The Myth"

[@Iron.Historian]

Absolutely goated speech

[@Doctharkun]

The myth!!!! The unchained...

[@AlmostAeroGauge]

A Bill Pearl docu would be absolutely insane. By far my favorite of all time.

[@gin0v4]

Your Channel and Videos are great, keep up the good work!

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks, will do!

[@jontepintar6497]

keep it up gang, love ur vids

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks buddy!

[@Kukumanagement]

Stopped all my chores this Sunday too watch this documentary before the eagles/rams football game lol love your channel man keep up the good work Iron

[@Iron.Historian]

Appreciate it my man! Hope you enjoy 🙏

[@PaulPupp]

This was a fantastic video ............thank you

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you for watching! 🙏

[@EnderAshura]

give us what we want, Kevin Levrone!!!

[@Iron.Historian]

When the time is right my child

[@proximus1089]

Thanks for the great video 😊

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks for watching!

[@tzortzischatzigeorgiou8291]

You should do a documentary about branch warren or Dennis wolf also amaizing video

[@maxfrost9028]

Love these videos man. Thank you so much!!!💪

[@Iron.Historian]

Thank you for watching!

[@PeculiAair]

Thank you for uploading.

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks for watching!

[@glassofwater281]

This channel is so high quality

[@ITAYMR]

Great video brother

[@Iron.Historian]

Glad you liked it 🙏

[@denverjohnson5640]

Joe Weider blackballed Sergio in favor of pushing Arnold. As long as Sergio competed, Arnold would have never won.

[@duffyt26]

Bruh, Iron Historian lighting up our lives with another one!!! 🎉

[@evanstone9]

Another fantastic video, good sir! Are we eventually going to get "The Two Faces of Arnold Schwarzenegger"?

[@Iron.Historian]

You know what that's a nice title, I'll keep that in mind. Thank you!

[@aliensnail7173]

kai greene would be a good (and popular) one you could do next, especially the phil rivalry

[@mebinpathak3190]

Bro love your videos

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks! 🙏

[@dyardsale5475]

One of the greatest bodybuilders of all time, yet I have never seen a single good picture of him.

[@benji2526]

Thanks for the good work man !

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks for watching! 🙏

[@BigTvProductions]

thank you once again for another superb video 💪

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks for watching 🙏

[@MuhammedAoun-gx5mh]

Bro whos your favourite bodybuilder and the favorite documentary in your channel btw these videos are so well researched and the editing is phenomenal

[@Iron.Historian]

Thanks man! The video I enjoyed making the most was Jay Cutler, I'm quite proud of that one and Dorian's video is a close one too. My favorite bodybuilder is a bit hard to answer but if I had to go with just one it has to be Ronnie, such an amazing and humble character .

[@MuhammedAoun-gx5mh]

Thank you so much for replying 💕 and awnsering my question bro

[@MercilessBreed]

Its interesting to thibk about an alternative reality where Menzer and Oliva wouldnt be crushed by sports politics.

[@HeziParis]

Is this actually your voice?

[@m1x234]

I love these videos, I just dont understand the click bait titles with such a negative connotation.

[@mahdihaidar6703]

Kindlyy brother we need one for dexter jackson the blade

[@GabrielGembarowski]

Your videos are great man feels illegal to be this early

[@Iron.Historian]

Enjoy! 😉

[@MuhammadAli-Lateef]

This was good. Thanks

[@stephenmartin2737]

The flex wheeler of the 60,s and 70,s what a physique!!!