The Inaugural EZA Hall of Greats Induction

[@MrWizardvoice]

Don Casanova is a national treasure!! Just elect him into the Hall of Greats

[@DuckDuckSheep]

Oh my god Don. Don not being on podcasts is a crime.

[@dn12345]

I think Black Flag is 3.5/5 stars but the way Don sold it I feel compelled to give it 6/5 stars.

[@franjaff6919]

He is the wisest man I've ever seen.

[@Fleetw00d]

Dan N The line about open worlds sold me at the end. Don truly is a master wordsmith.

[@evanbeckner5318]

Black Flag would have been better if it wasn't an AC game.

[@sublime90]

the way he describes the open world and how he just lives in them is exactly what i did in gta3/5/bully and even fallout4

[@PeterJussi]

It's a perfect 5/7.

[@miller619619]

Don has such a way with words that makes anything seem fascinating. I did not like AC4 but he makes it sound epic.

[@CriticalMax]

Kyle: ''You get used to the controls.'' Ben: ''You do, but I'd never say that it feels good.'' Ian: ''I had a sliver in my toe I got used to.'' Best call ever Ian! I almost spewed my coffee all over my desk!

[@TheNjack91]

This made me a fan of Don

[@zodiac909]

How could you not be a fan of Don from the moment you see him??!?

[@EndQuarkConfinement]

Before this moment, Don was just the guy that gave Kyle a psychic desk and took it back. Also double down on Don.

[@BaldTheAvenger1]

Great EZA Induction discussion. A buffet of wonderful nostalgic memories. Tasty Allies, tasty.

[@sk00pa11]

I have to agree with Bosman about Super Metroid vs Prime, switching items and beams is significantly easier (even more so with wiimote and nunchuk). Revisiting areas is far less of a chore when you have access to both the level and world map, door types and all visible, rather than just a single area.

[@PyroJiro]

And then God's thunderous voice said upon to his fellows *"HELLO ALLIES"*

[@cib2413]

Ben owned it. Totally agree with him on Street Fighter 2 Turbo. Legendary and timeless.

[@cib2413]

And also agree with Blood's pick. How can you not put Super Metroid into the Hall of Greats?

[@TheMastermind729]

Agreed.

[@DarkExcuritas]

I think you should do a segment on your website called the Hall of Greats and make it all fancy n stuff with the games that already got inducted.

[@ZappBranniglenn]

I loved Kyle crumbling when talking about how you control the camera in Mega Man Legends. "...you get used to it". That is a Star Fox Zero patented response. Kyle channeling his inner Miyamoto is a sad day to see.

[@BaldTheAvenger1]

Don killed it. Period. Black Flag IS pretty great.

[@thosediamonddreams]

I think the most important thing about Super Metroid that elevates it against other games in the franchise is that so much effort and attention was putting into guiding the player through the game without saying a single word. That alone makes it a masterpiece. Too many games these days don't trust the intelligence of the player to learn how to play on their own, and, subjectively, I find that the older I get, the more I like games that leave me alone and let me play them and don't take control away from me, which also helps the game survive replays (Bloodborne and Link to the Past timeless greats for shutting up and letting me play).

[@SleepingOnStones]

Brandon: "I wanna hear Kyle pitch this game for the next three years" Kyle: "Challenge accepted"

[@EdselsBakedGoods]

Don's experience with black flag reminded me so much of my experience with Breath of the Wild. Exploring the open world. Fighting Lynols before you should. Going straight to the castle and beating all the bosses before you've come across them. And I actually remember the story, haha.

[@joemurray]

I really like how everyone spoke about their choice of game. Getting completely immersed in the world of a video game is a special moment which doesn't happen often for me. All of these games are great (although I haven't played Megaman Legends so I will check that out!)

[@omrmajeed]

This was a great addition to EZA Schedule. Love it!

[@Zamzummin]

I enjoyed everyone's presentations, but the only one who I clapped for was Ben Moore. Street Fighter II Turbo is an absolute goliath of a game, a force to be reckoned with and a pinnacle of not just fighting games, but competitive multiplayer gaming. You could argue that without SFII there would be no e-sports. On SNES it stood as an example of how to properly port arcade games to console and it provided an amazing couch multiplayer experience before GoldenEye 007 existed, hell before the GoldenEye movie even existed. Street Fighter II Turbo absolutely deserves to be 2nd inductee. Nothing against Super Metroid, but _come on_.

[@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu]

Shine sparking is all you need to say to kyle as to why super is better than prime... and the screw attack, super metroid does such a good job of making you feel ultra powerfull by the end more so than any other game that i have played... not to mention the sequence breaking for repeat play throughs is way better in super metroid, plus i live all the hidden techniques by setting different beam combinations... not to mention the traversal techniques like wall jumping, mockballing and diagonal shine sparking that allow you to get items early...

[@ShadowMKII]

... And, starting at 56:30, that is near literally what ended up happening all the way up to the last video that Kyle made for Easy Allies' Hall of Greats for Mega Man Legends before leaving them. Sincerely sad, and amazing, simultaneously. :) :( If the game is deserving, I hope that it gets in one day - possibly by Kyle, himself, if he ever returns. :)

[@rotpb5253]

I haven't watched the whole video yet, but dammit Kyle, I love you so much for nominating Mega Man Legends.

[@TheFattiShow]

I would love it if your videos had a bit more saturation! And the new camera doesn't make it any better! But I still love all your content. Thank you for entertaining my life! ;)

[@spinexel6847]

Thomas Enberg lol, 2 years later and now it’s perfect.

[@franjaff6919]

EZA just keeps getting better. 10.0

[@RelaxingD]

greatest KZbin channel ever!

[@7EEVEE]

Bloods webcam is better than the new camera, you guys need an editor! Every video is dull and under saturated

[@franjaff6919]

I would agree, but it's just a few guys sat on a couch. We all know that people are just listening to the video and not actually watching it, so it's not a big deal.

[@overnightgrowth]

It would be easily fixed with an editor to improve the saturation but in general terms the camera is way better, this one seems to have better resolution than the last one.

[@falagarius]

Pussy? Really?

[@ljmiller96]

Looks like insufficient light, which is what I'd expect given where they shoot it.

[@JayRutley]

Bloods cam is also a tiny window in the corner at lower resolution

[@sebastianmarley446]

Dons speech has made me fall in love with him

[@robertstimmel1100]

tech issues are resolved at 11:00

[@GhostFrequency2]

This was a fun stream guys! I'm glad to be able to catch them live occasionally. Don plays open worlds how I like to play them too, just get lost in it and enjoy.

[@overlordceles2037]

Kyle was right about the frame pacing in Bloodborne. Boost mode on the pro helps with the frame rate but not the frame pacing.

[@shtiken]

Raine Loire It does actually help with the frame pacing.

[@overlordceles2037]

You're right, it marginally helps but doesn't fix the problem, unlike with frame rate.

[@shtiken]

Raine Loire Sure, not arguing with that, about 30% more occurrences without boost. In any case, not sure why technical issues are brought up against Bloodborne in particular, I mean every game they pitched had some serious performance issues.

[@nsignific]

This was really, really, really good and I'm glad you plan on doing more of this sort of thing.

[@aceman1858]

Always fires me up seeing EZA content like this. Love the debates, especially when they are high stakes. The first inductee is exactly my choice as well, and damn that makes me happy. Looking forward to 4 months from now, great stuff all

[@falagarius]

During the technical problems at around minute 10 I was browsing through some other tabs. Huber startled the heck outta me with his "Hello Allies!" every time.

[@jamescboyd]

I'd really like to see y'all put these sorts of things on a podcast feed! Easy Allies Extras

[@Arwinylol]

Hats off to you Mr Bossman, looking forward to the next Hall of Fame vote in 4 months =)

[@kulturvultur5036]

What a great way to spend my morning at work. Thanks for such great content guys.

[@jamescboyd]

I wish y'all would put out this sort of thing, the Q & As, etc. on a podcast feed.

[@miguelpiresramos1280]

Loved the look Kyle gave when Blood talked about the swimsuit!

[@andymoney6530]

Don is one of the greatest storytellers ever, I just want to go on a cross country road trip with Don so he can talk to me about all the cool shit he does in video games Stay Golden Allies and shout out to Ben for the Street Fighter nod

[@paulunga]

IMO, Street Fighter has the best story out of all the nominees. The story of going to an arcade and seeing someone throw out a dragon punch for the first time. The story of spending countless quarters trying to master this game against people who were once strangers. The story of birthing the FGC.

[@zodiac909]

I JUST realized that this is an evolution of the "Kill Your Babies" game that Ian hosts on Easy Update

[@seriomarkj]

that was great...and how is tetris always overlooked

[@joemurray]

Bloodborne is one of my favourite games of the current generation and is truly one of the greats

[@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu]

super metroid and metroid prime are a few of the games that actually gets better the more times you play them...

[@5looody]

Metal Gear Solid is the GOAT hands down

[@christianeddins]

Don's speech about black flag made my hyped to get into breath of the wild

[@tylerstravis]

This was amazing, thank you very much!!

[@corychang5223]

Love the video! It was really fun! If I could make a suggestion, I would consider using approval or range voting for the scoring system (en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Range_voting). Put simply, it's giving a score (say out of 5 stars) to each candidate. There's a few problems with the pseudo ranked choice method used that showed up here: Favorite betrayal: people strategically rank their personal favorites lower to give a better shot to a candidate they think is more likely to win. With range voting, it never benefits to lie by giving your favorite a lower score. Spoilers: similar candidates can cannibalize each other's votes. E.g. Bloodborne and Dark Souls make each other less likely to win. In fact, Ian essentially threw his votes away by putting 2 of his 3 votes on these games. If, for example, we had 2 Zelda games, it's possible that they both end up losing because they split the vote. With range voting, there is no spoiler effect. Range voting also encourages more divisive and interesting picks. For example, Super Street Fighter II wasn't anybody's top choice, but did well because it was a lot of people's second choice. We see that many of the Oscar winners lately have been "boring" picks because they use a similar ranked choice system. I made a couple videos on the benefits of range voting, and the mathematical issues with ranked-choice systems (including one vote per person): Range voting: kzbin.info/www/bejne/m2Sqd3pmqL18n8k Ranked voting problems (math heavy): kzbin.info/www/bejne/h2eTi4uljbVpfsk Maybe it doesn't matter since they're all great games and most, if not all, will make it in eventually. Just some food for thought :)

[@The_Jastrom]

I don't care what game actually gets in, I love hearing the guys argue for the game that they feel passionately about, that's what it's all about. Passion baby.

[@Sage_Of_Thyme_]

Mega Man Legends IS One of the Greats. I am convinced there is an alternate reality that exists where more people played Mega Man Legends and the game was able to influence the gaming industry the same way a Dark Souls or a Metal Gear Solid did.

[@edsortiz1530]

Careful with Dom, he has the power to induct No mans sky to the HOG

[@TheErebusGaming]

Soon as Don said 'ocean' I knew what it'd be. I'm a bit late in catching up on this show, but I love it!

[@1boshow]

I think you guys need a 2 PC setup.

[@axebearer]

Before anyone says anything, here are my guesses. Ben Moore: Metal Gear Solid Ian Hinck: Castlevania Symphony of the Night Kyle Bosman: Tetris or Pokémon Red & Blue Brandon Jones: Final Fantasy 6 Michael Damiani: The Legend of Zelda: A Link to the Past Michael Huber: Resident Evil Brad Ellis: Final Fantasy 7 Don Casanova: I have no idea what kinds of games Don likes. Chrono Trigger? Maybe? Bloodworth: Blood is the racing game guy, but I don't think he'll pick a racing game. Half Life. It'll be interesting to see how wrong I am. :D

[@axebearer]

Got two of the games at least. Just not from the right people. xD

[@organiclou2516]

Just came back to this. The pause moment when Kyle asked Ben about balancing issues with street fighter 2 made me cry laughing 😂

[@skylesson]

I'm with Bosman on Prime vs. Super. The arguments against Prime could also be applied to Super to a greater extent. Super isn't a perfect game; Prime is definitely a contender.

[@Bromeostasis]

This video was super fun I look forward to future HOG ceremonies. Is this suppose to be a parody and I'm just being dense? Because these nominations were a hall of favorites, and maybe that's the joke. Pretend its a hall of greats say "its not a hall of favorites" and then everyone nominates there favorite game not based on how great it is.

[@ethan_wethan]

Chris Pregot sure, everyone's nomination was their own "take" on the GOAT but they all looked past that to vote. You gotta see the ways that MGS changed the gaming world and appreciate its greatness. I don't think favorites got in the way of HOG. Also everything regarding greatness is opinion based so there's no avoiding it haha L&R

[@Bromeostasis]

Thats a good point and I agree mgs deserves to be there absolutely changed gaming. I think it might be better if everyone put up silly picks and gave funny speeches or everyone put up real picks and people just hacked them down like the lip sync part. But I could definitely be wrong it was just my initial impression "why is black flag on a hall of greats list"( which don't get me wrong was funny).

[@pabloleiva8568]

Is not about GOAT's, but just about great games. Of course they'll nominate their favorites but has to be some sort of agreement to actually win, and for that I guess it gas to be ar least good. Now to be fair, this "One of the greats" thing began as joke when some dude from S-Enix said that FFXV was going to be "One of the greats" before it came out. The allies just took it and ran with it, and it has been amazing

[@javima85]

I guess you already know, but it was perfect before you touched the controls. Either way, I think we all know (at least the ones with common sense) that it's not easy, AT ALL, doing this kind of thing, so thank very much for a brilliant job, and for coming up with the brilliant idea of doing this kind of Hall of fame for Easyallies.

[@ceracen]

MGS is not only one of the greats, but arguably the greatest. And I myself would say Twin Snakes should be included in the honoring of this game.

[@musiclover462]

1:52:53 "Oh no, HUBER! Noo! We just lost an ally."

[@tiggerdyret]

I love that almost every point Don makers for his choice is something I'd call a detractor and was never meant as part of the core game design. It just goes to show that we all value different things in video games.

[@zodiac909]

@9:04 R.I.P Ears and Headphone users.

[@captainjumptoast]

The fact that Kyle was even willing to try and make an argument against Super Metroid blows me away. Metroid Prime!? Nonsense! And I loved Metroid Prime! Metroid Prime got me so hyped about games that I broke my non-preorder rule for both Metroid Prime 2 and 3 and loved those also. But there is almost no experience in games like Super Metroid. That experience when the crocomire comes back as a skeleton and falls through the wall exploded my mind. That kind of beautiful breaking of video game tropes doesn't even happen much in games today much less considering it at the time. You beat the boss, the music slows, then it freaking comes through the wall at you again as a skeleton but just collapses. I won't ever forget walking into the abandoned ship filled with ghost entities and that primal sense of my own mortality. It wasn't just a character on the screen it, I was part of that character and walking into that environment scared the living crap out of me. Not once did I have that same kind of experience in the Metroid Prime games. They were fun video games and I enjoyed them but they were so thoroughly video game-ish the experience was filtered. Super Metroid was an experience that pulled you in an unforgettable way. That sense of isolation though! And when you run into the animals that teach you tricks you can do with your suit! What an insane and interesting tutorial. Metroid Prime not even close baby!

[@Hetsig]

corrections would be to have no own game votes since all did i think. all votes must be cast and maybe do a 5-10 minute break when everyone writes votes on a paper and put it in a box, tally them so ian can be surprised too ^^. i really enjoyed this! sad goldeneye didn't win, but next time :).

[@smoogles]

@1:03:00 Don tries to make a case for Ass Creed: Black Flag but ends up making a case against it, he is truly priceless.

[@uocooper]

Don starts his speech. 1:00:15

[@dannybski9620]

@Bosman - I went and played Mega Man Legends on Friday night. It's been on my backlog for a while, and you pushed me over the edge to play it. Now I can honestly say, this game is NOT one of the greats. It had some neat concepts, but holy cow this might be my biggest gripe with a games controls, ever. I almost quit on the final boss, just because it is so hard to control Mega Man and get him to do what you want. Even when you get a groove going, you need to get a little lucky with your circle strafing because god forbid you get knocked into a wall and can't see or do anything. It's almost like being stunlocked to death. That's not even mentioning how you can't Lock On AND move Mega Man at the same time... That said the character art was good (environment art was not, even for its time), the faces were good, the upgrades were interesting (though overly priced and grindy), and the easter egg after the credits was worth my 5 hours with the game.

[@LeafhopperV]

"The best open world" Brandonface.gif

[@momusu17]

Black Flag is the best Sailing/Pirate game i've ever played. I don't know why Ubisoft hasn't taken that aspect and made it into its own Franchise yet.

[@TheFattiShow]

But where is Frame Trap already?!?

[@ruds0n895]

I love the new camera! Now everybody is crisp as fuck! :D

[@zeb5158]

THE SUSPENSE when Huber says "Resident Evil..." I'll bet it's 3

[@EndQuarkConfinement]

This episode was a 5/5 already. Don turned it into a 10/5

[@kulturvultur5036]

Kyle at 1:17:53. That face ladies and gentleman.

[@karltobinart]

" i dreamed a dreeeaaam, the other niiiight" Yes Don. Best way to play Black Flag.

[@trignite]

Are the games that didn't get picked just going to get picked again in the next round? There should be some kind of rule where any game that got a score less than 3 or 4 can't be picked again.

[@tasseiviews2947]

This was a lot of fun and I feel it's so Easy Allies.

[@Harutjun]

Captain Don :) that was a very good entry for the hall of greats that empty island part LMFAO

[@theandroidsdungeon8495]

Oh, i figured it out. The Last of Us was added already so why bother picking it...right? It's clearly a perfect game and there is no argument against it. Makes sense, isn't that right internet? EDIT: Also SMB 3 guys...CAMOOOOOOOON haha L&R

[@BarrettBoards]

crazy going back to this now.

[@JayRutley]

The end of this video must be great for Damiani's job security lol

[@koolgool]

We need more Don in everything.

[@zukuu]

Well deserved winner. I'd have voted MGS 3, Dark Souls 2 and Street Fighter 1 so I can't complain. :D

[@DuncanZ64]

I'm so happy Ian brought up Bloodborne, because that's what my vote would've been for too.

[@robaustin_]

Btw, for the record, all of these tech issues are the reason why the brought on Domiani.

[@DaRkLoRd-rc5yu]

oh i feel bad for bosman, the instant dismissal from most of the allies... I think kyle should bring it back another time, and the allies should play it... If you have ever seen Danny O'dwyer's podcast a tournament of lies, where they rank games against each other... If majority of them havent played the game that is submitted by the viewers, they put it in purgatory and they go away and play the games, and add them i the later weeks... i think if legends is a recurring entry by bosman this needs to happen...

[@rawleyfear5749]

I'm just now watching all of the HoGs. Having the whole crew together is infinitely better than this. Love the idea and the shows, though.

[@Tiduas]

Loved this segment! Also, where can we vote? Didn't find anything on the Patreon.

[@DearFreja]

Open worlds assassinate story-telling, but no lip animations are the true devil, you heard it here first.

[@cptnoremac]

Kyle, since nobody here managed to make a case for it, here's why I think Super Metroid > Metroid Prime. Super Metroid told a simple but moving story and it did so without any words. There's a text crawl before the game even starts that sets up the backstory, but once you're caught up and start playing this story, you get to piece it together by yourself. When you kill Ridley and go to the back room expecting to find the baby metroid, all you get is a broken jar. You figure out for yourself what that means. You don't need Samus to say, "Broken metroid jar. Perhaps the metroid outgrew it and escaped. Scanning for traces... Go to Tourian to find the metroid." Metroid Prime has so much reading. It's not badly written, but it can be a real slog on repeat plays. Super Metroid is 2D. 2002 was still early for 3D gaming and though Metroid Prime did a fantastic job for its time of replicating the Metroid experience in three dimensions, it's not as timeless as Super. Doing a 180 degree turn takes too long in Prime, and the game isn't linear enough for that not to become annoying. How long does it take to turn around in Super Metroid? 1 frame. The movement doesn't feel as good in 3D either. Wall jumping in Super Metroid feels so damn good. Prime has no answer to this. And of course in 3D you can't see what's behind you, which sucks when you're surrounded by wasps. Super Metroid makes good use of its backtracking. I don't think you ever have to pass through the same place more than twice in the same direction, and it's always on the way to something interesting and with fun new powers that you're happy to play with in environments that were more intimidating before. In Prime you spend a good period of the game traveling from place to place finding those keys and it's pretty boring. Super Metroid has more freedom. The amount of sequence breaking that's allowed and even encouraged is astounding. The first time I ever played the game, I couldn't figure out how to get into Maridia, so I went straight to lower Norfair. Without space jump boots. I had to bomb jump up to the entrance and use wall jumping to get around. You can't unlock screw attack without space jump for some reason, so I had to use power bombs to clear all the blocks in your way in the hallway with the rising acid. And somehow I did it. I killed Ridley and made it back out in one piece and I'll remember that forever. Prime just doesn't really give you the mechanics necessary to sequence break like this. Super Metroid has a better story. I know I mentioned story earlier, but I want to talk about why it's better, rather than that it doesn't use words. It manages to make you connect to a very alien creature in a very short amount of time. By the final fight, you only have three experiences with the metroid: it following you like a lost child in Metroid II, seeing it in Ceres Station making cute little sounds and getting kidnapped by Ridley, and it attacking you in Tourian and then recognizing you and letting you go. And you still cry when it saves you from Mother Brain and then dies for it. And at the moment when you hate Mother Brain the most, you're given her own power to use against her and curb stomp her like an angry mother bear. For Prime I can't even really remember what the whole point of the story was. You crash land on a planet just like in Super Metroid, but instead of searching for a stolen creature you're just kind of traveling around. Why do you fight the titular monster at the end? I honestly don't remember. I love Metroid Prime. Its atmosphere is amazing and I'll never forget the music in Phendrena Drifts. But it doesn't hold a candle to what Super Metroid was able to accomplish 8 years earlier.

[@TheMastermind729]

Doesn't matter what you say Kyle will NEVER listen sadly.

[@smoogles]

@34:00 Damiani trolling again with the unending nomination video.

[@bdun0912]

Great stream. I do feel a bit bad for both Huber and Bosman though. RE has some of the most iconic environments and moments of its time. Bosman just got shamed on his pick all around lol. RE remake would have gotten 3 from me though, easy. Also, I loved Ian's defense of abrupt endings--very poetic

[@nickarsenian4885]

Love you guys so much but the new camera doesn't look good at the moment compared to the last one.

[@ShimaS-0079]

First place was the right choice

[@uscssnostromo7431]

Super Metroid needs to be in the HOG.

[@jackw5430]

had to pause video at 1:35:20. Jones you savage.

[@MrNasseh]

I NEED that 30 minute Don Discount cut.

[@kulturvultur5036]

Bloods curtains are something to behold.

[@MikeIsCanadian]

What no Super Mario Bros? That game saved the industry in North America.

[@EvSolo]

The only thing that ruins multiplayer in GoldenEye is the lack of random respawns. Once you and your friends memorized the spawn points in each level the game was broken