The Indiana Pacers Are In Trouble

Discussing the poor start to the season for the Indiana Pacers and what it means for their future
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[@russelhughes1066]

98 percent of the players are over paid no question

[@Yungbasedonion]

You do realize the nba makes almost 8 billion dollars a year right.

[@thechidd8819]

​@@Yungbasedonion doesn't mean they can't spend that money more efficiently

[@Yungbasedonion]

@ didn’t say anything about that. Saying 98%(cool number) of players is overpaid makes no sense considering the league as a whole makes 8 billion a year

[@thechidd8819]

​@Yungbasedonion they also spend over 5 billion on player salaries. NBA players are the highest paid athletes in the world so idk what you're even arguing. They're overpaid because the salary cap limits the amount a team can spend and locking up a quarter of it on players that only perform in contract years is bad business. Efficient spending means spreading that money out, paying role players more and valuing the team over "stars" Also 98% was a clear exaggeration. No need to be pedantic

[@joshhughes4962]

Boomer

[@nickroshkowski8576]

"Defense wins Championships". You cannot have a historic offense every year. Always need a true defender, like a Jrue Holiday or a Jayden McDaniels.

[@rickysoup]

they would’ve been a first round exit last year too had everyone been healthy

[@NEWLOOKKNICKS]

@@rickysoup EXACTLY everyone BUT pacers fans AND the players

[@nathandrabing5942]

Agreed. That's why they are struggling. They made it so far because they had big defensive and hustle players at the center of the team. They are currently without their 4 best defensive pieces and have added 2 younger players that are much worse at what they need. They are just simply a different team than they were.

[@hilriekemp]

The Pacers need to trade Pascal for PG. He's a better shooter can defend and is a better playmaker. I've never been a fan of undersized 4s who can't shoot, aren'tgreat rebounders and can't create for others not to mention he clogs up the offense. The 76ers need a 4 like him and he has a relationship with Nick Nurse and PG would be beloved back in Indiana. And it might reenergize both players being in more familiar locations

[@justinalley3399]

Jaden McDaniels defense doesnt make up for him being a offensive liability

[@nathandrabing5942]

This team is missing what made them so great last year. The defense was bad last year but good enough to compete. They have lost their 4 best defense/hustle players to injury. The guys that replaced the injured are either rookies or players that have dont fit what the team needs. They are simply less of a team than they were and Haliburton needs defensive pieces around him to shine.

[@bigbangbasketball]

Defense will get you as far as you wanna go

[@Agent_blaze133]

Them snow bunnies been getting to em

[@AB-ou5qc]

Lmao 😂 the man is stuck in blizzards ❄️ can’t see straight on the court anymore

[@josh-rz3uq]

Which is very weird to me, to be honest. I honestly thought Tyrese was gay.

[@Youralwayswhining4367]

They paying for it. In many ways

[@JAYR13pv]

Haliburton needs to be more aggressive. They're trying to make him a facilitator in the first half, only to expect him to take over when they're down by 20. On top of that, aside from Siakam, the team is incredibly inconsistent. He just needs better support.

[@michaelahurt]

True but without the threat of his shot he can't get downhill as easily. It all stems from there. There's a reason he wasn't viewed as a primary coming out of college. He's not quick enough nor does he have a good enough handle to take guys off the dribble. The deep shooting made defenders play up an extra step/half step and that opened driving lanes which activated his playmaking. It's a lot like what Steph does on ball. Plus they built a perfect ecosystem for him then tore it down. What makes him special is he can play fast without making mistakes and they don't play as fast anymore.

[@JAYR13pv]

@@michaelahurt They need to get him going early and agree make the game fast again. He is stationary on the half court

[@theautomator2001]

"he just needs better support" sounds like a lebron excuse. They have 2 max cap players like all the top teams, he's just not that good plain and simple. Oh siakam is just mid as well.

[@brandonsickbert5426]

They live and die with the 3pt shot , every game they have a wide open 2pt shot and kick it out for a contested 3. Drives me absolutely nuts. Take the high percentage shot and stop taking the 3.

[@tyjohnson9974]

They led the NBA in the paint scoring last year. Their 3 point shooting opens up the paint.

[@jameszhao6479]

Haliburton overrated af

[@elvisp116]

💯💯💯💯💯

[@harveydent8714]

Exactly. I don’t know why more people can’t accept this or don’t see it. All he had was a semi decent stretch of games last year and people think he is a franchise player.

[@michaelahurt]

​@@harveydent8714 He shot 40% both years in college and his first 4.5 years in the NBA and is 85% from the line for his career.... That's not just a semi decent stretch. It's not Jalen Green having a good shooting month. He doesn't turn the ball over. He's a great playmaker. And until the injury he was a great shooter. He wasn't Michael or LeBron or Giannis or Wemby but offensively there wasn't much separating him from Nash, CP3 and John Stockton. He was the same type of player as them

[@gkusared]

yep

[@nathandrabing5942]

​@@michaelahurtStill is. His team changed drasticly at the start of the year with all his big defensive players getting hurt. The people he is playing with roght now have trouble making the best of the advantage Hali gives them.

[@icrashout]

Tyrese Haliburton has been disappointing so far

[@tirosc]

Everyone from that Toronto championship run is overrated as hell. They performed peak for 1 season and never came close to repeating it again. Yet they all got major money.

[@chadwellington2524]

not really.. og didnt even play those playoffs.. norman powell is underrated if anything... i guess you are only talking about siakam

[@robertthornton7900]

They need to call Miami about Jimmy Butler.

[@DanMarin-lf7fe]

N give Miami what?

[@jojofinesse2310]

@@DanMarin-lf7fewe have a lot more pieces to give than most of these teams that are rumored for jimmy. We have picks, plethora of role players, young guys like Furphy and jarace. As much as I don’t want to trade our assets for an aged star I do know that our front office wants to win now due to our ECF run so I could us being a front runner for lavine or jimmy. Oh and also we just made a trade with Miami last month so we obviously in good terms with there front office and already been talking to them

[@bkearnaghan]

He wasn't allowed to heal from his injury last year because he had to play hurt to be eligble for the extra $50 million. Jaylen Brunson did it right. He took a deal that was less than the max so that he could still be playing on a good team 2 years from now. Meanwhile, the Pacers will get worse once they can't keep Andrew Nemhard who makes much less, but actually looks better than Haliburton this year.

[@gobacktomypark6792]

Come on Jamal when are someone other than me gonna say these players has gotten paid and FEEL like the don't have to perform as if they was before

[@michaelahurt]

Pretty sure he's not choosing to shoot 33% lol

[@FahadDonRimz]

Siakam is literally putting up career %s in terms of efficiency? So I’m guessing you mean he’s having a down yr based on averages. Even then he’s been the only consistent for them and he’s got the lowest usage rate in his career since 2018-19. That is also an issue. This team is not actually a 2 man squad. Carlisle is coaching a team that treats their 2 stars like role players instead of maximising them first and then incorporating the other pieces after letting the stars lead. I think that’s the biggest problem with their offense since the league has figured out the run and gun gimmick

[@jojofinesse2310]

You know ball and I can tell you didn’t hear this bs off a KZbin video or article. This is 100% facts.

[@michaelahurt]

Injuries are also a big factor. Their presumptive starting lineup -- Hali, Nembhard, Nesmith, Siakam, Turner -- has played four ganes together. They really need Nesmith and Nembhard on defense. I also think they want 2019 Siakam not 2024 Siakam but thats a different issue And they _really_ need Nembhard's secondary playmaking to crowbar open the gaps Hali creates. If he creates an advantage then the ball dies right now. That's why Hali- Brown-Buddy was so effective. They had that beautiful game element where the ball had life.

[@nathandrabing5942]

Very well put. Don't forget that Sheppard and Jackson that were the perfect defensive pieces for Obi and Mcconnell to shine. They upped Mathurin and Walker playing time which both havent meshed with the teams identity yet.

[@FahadDonRimz]

Siakam has declined a fair bit since 2019 defensively. I think even the 2022 version of him would mask up so many issues for them on both ends. The truth is without a schematic change you’d need an all nba level wing/forward defender to save this defense. They need to trade some of their younger pieces and make a move to save that defense, the talent and coaching on offense is there. The DEFENSE is the issue

[@Youralwayswhining4367]

"Injuries "

[@Adog00]

What happened to Halliburton bro😭🙏🏻

[@avisionthroughchrist]

Haliburton is the pg that the Lakers need

[@DanMarin-lf7fe]

They need a whole new team

[@MuckNoya]

Facts. Pass first high iq. Defense is ass though lol

[@zuffin1864]

Those dollar signs are what make me think the NBA could always go bankrupt lol

[@daylenkelsey9898]

This aged TERRIBLY

[@pahountisg]

'' Everyboy acting tough , when they are up '' last year for him.

[@r.d.vaughan4541]

As a Raptor fan and the team having the Pacers 2026 1st (1-4 protected), this is not breaking my heart. The need to lock in players at large percentage of your cap space, while not getting production due to either performance or injury, makes legal gambling look like a surer bet. The stars are priced so high that it hurts the actual on the floor team quality and viewer product. Basketball needs to watch out or the viewership will decline and their economic value for broadcast rights will tank. Much like a resource economy which runs out of that resource. The 3 ball centric game has already reduced the balance of overall skills. Watching a team miss three after three (39% success on average last 5yrs), can get very, very boring.

[@trustpolaris8369]

Keep that same Energy! 🏎️💨

[@AirRusher1992]

The only reason why the Pacers reached the Eastern Conference Finals last year is because they wanted to continue the trend of getting that far in the year that ends with 4, which dates all the way back to 1994 when they were led by Reggie Miller so I think it's safe to say last year's Playoff run could become a fluke in a not too distant future just like the 2019 Blazers and the 2021 Hawks.

[@Guyver313]

Never was going to be a superstar, only an Allstar. The word "superstar" is getting over uses

[@JoJo_Blue]

If Anthony Davis available in the offseason the pacers should take a look🤷‍♂️

[@reggie441950]

didn't hear a word about the injuries this team has sustained, 2- 3 and D starters ( Nesmith & Nembhard, both back up centers( Jackson & Wiseman) and the best shooter off the bench in Ben Sheppard (and he can defend). gimme a break....granted this team needs everyone healthy to be great....didn't they have the highest scoring bench in the league? this teams depth is their identity.....just sayin

[@And.One.Hoops1]

Yeah, but come on now, those aren't significant enough injuries to explain their very poor start and massive regression offensively

[@nathandrabing5942]

Very well put! This team struggled with defense enough. Take away their 4 best defensive pieces and the team crumbled. The pieces they added in place of the 4 are either rookies or under 21 still trying to figure out the NBA...

[@reggie441950]

@@And.One.Hoops1 NOT SIGNIFICANT!! I bet ya cried the blues when Pacers beat Bucks and Knicks last year. As a Pacer fan I'll concede we caught a break in those cases....why not us now

[@butcherandom]

@@And.One.Hoops1 No, but they are part of the picture and not a word mentioned

[@Youralwayswhining4367]

Pacers bench is 9th in the nba

[@xkhours]

they said he was better than fox after half a good season

[@clytnjms]

Tells you how little people know that don't follow this team everyday. They are missing BOTH backup centers. Isiah Jacksons contributions to this team are vastly underrated by both the fan base and media. Their FOUR best defenders literally were out either for the year or for 20+games in Sheppard, Nesmith, Nembhardt and Jackson. Media and fanbases like to think it's one player that is the reason a team is successful but the Michael Jordan era is over. EVERY rotation player plays a key part. Tyrese gets the glory when they win but every fan that follows this team knows they had the NUMBER one bench in the league which you failed to mention and won the team 10-15 games easily last year. And Tyrese and Mathurin just do not mesh well. Don't think they ever will either. Now that players are healthy he needs to go back to the bench where He can score at will without Tyrese becoming agitated

[@And.One.Hoops1]

That's not enough of a reason to be incredibly mid

[@MillenniumOps]

@@And.One.Hoops1 ?

[@luckychukwuma3822]

I just saw shooting 3pt jump shot. Last season he have efficient 3pt shooting but he doesn’t have a jump shot. This season he’s adding jump shot and that might be the reason for his struggle

[@BodieB]

He only had 3 months of great play. Got injured and after that his hot streak was over. He hasn't played close to it since

[@angeloisern]

Im a Heat fan. But if u a Pacers fan and dont appreciate this dude. Yall tripping. He only 23? Be patient..

[@Aeklypsis]

Every couple of years there is a player that completely drops off right after they get a huge contract. It's possible he just doesn't give two shits about the game and is only in it for the money and the fame, which is fine, he should live his life how he wants, I just wouldn't give a guy like that the keys to a franchise.

[@ryandonovan5205]

Hey at least he suits up and is on the court unlike other 200 million dollar players

[@bigbangbasketball]

Haliburton unders always feeds the fam 😮‍💨

[@MikeKelsoJr]

They are playing great just beat the best team in the NBA at home !! Don’t break them up !!👍👏

[@tommycochran1019]

Nice ice cold take.

[@cheap272]

The knicks look good but im worried that the iron tyranny of tom tibbs is gonna keep them from ever stepping on the court together, especially by the time the playoffs roll around

[@cheap272]

Hey this is a knicks video right

[@nedspartan9248]

Running players to the dirty is Tibbs MO. He's the dude that g had Rose playing when they were up big with like a min to go when he messed up his knee. Even the announcers were questioning it seconds before the injury happened

[@FormalCarrot1]

Knicks fans can't stop talking about their overrated team 😂 I can't wait till the Knicks get cooked in the playoffs

[@cheap272]

@@FormalCarrot1 im a celtics fan we kick the shit out of the conference every year alongside ur favorite team i need atleast 1 team in the east to actually be good in the playoffs so i have a reason to watch before the finals, have fun watching ur poverty team bounce in the 2nd round

[@FormalCarrot1]

@@cheap272 Lol somebody got mad 😂 can’t wait for jimmy butler to beat the Celtics again 😂

[@elcid9054]

Bro simply makes way too much money to play basketball and that’s it

[@namanarora1040]

Tyrese gets face guarded full court half court anywheres hes getting face guarded

[@9577frasier]

He needs mark jackson

[@AmazinMusicNYC]

TYRESE HALIBURTON cost me money on a parley on draft kings app I could have won $3,000

[@Mdksupreme1]

haliburton has always been incredibly overrated, his first all star selection, he should be have gotten it at all, dude put up less points, rebounds, and assists and had a worse record than Harden, but somehow got selected over him, it never made any sense

[@MillenniumOps]

He's really not that overrated. Niggas just hate

[@JohnwayneNOgacy]

He went crazy against the Bulls but yeah I think he’s extremely overpaid . Doesn’t have great athletiscm, jumper looks janky

[@emersonssbb]

East was injured all of last year. Teams didnt just figure them out they also got healthy.

[@nathandrabing5942]

Pacers are missing their 4 best defensive pieces. Pacers handled those teams easily all year long. Quit making excuses.

[@emersonssbb]

@@nathandrabing5942 Knicks were missing their second option all year last so whats your point. You acting like every team you beat last year was healthy.And when you faced a healthy team you got swept. Even if you are healthy you still a play in tournament you arent a 5th or 6th at all you got lucky.

[@maximusorbis2548]

@@nathandrabing5942your team is mid bro, have fun getting dumped in the first round 😂😂😂

[@jordancromwell]

@@nathandrabing5942 Went to 6 against a Bucks with no Giannis and Dame missing 2 games and a Knicks that was injured all the way through in 7 games. First round exits that lucked out by injuries. Enjoy not making the playoffs this year lol

[@jdmw107]

Didn’t take long for this video to look stupid.

[@And.One.Hoops1]

Oh, they won the championship? Halliburton is a superstar?

[@elcid9054]

Now do the Sacramento Kings

[@And.One.Hoops1]

Already did

[@elcid9054]

@ you did ? I didn’t see it

[@dankestranch8738]

@@elcid9054 yeah he said they would be amazing this year 🤣

[@elcid9054]

@@dankestranch8738 now they fired there coach 😂

[@craigj.7035]

Anddddd never mind

[@woodystefeneylee7290]

KING OF THE 3SOME .....SOFT LEGS

[@carytrabue9521]

A hate channel

[@And.One.Hoops1]

Eh?

[@Beastmodecaston]

He mentioned to say you are awesome

[@Beastmodecaston]

Wait no. I think he say he think you are trash boi.

[@evanlevitt311]

lol pacers 4 seed

[@youngchris111]

blaming a proven champion coach who beat lebron in the finals because you goofy losers overhyped haliburton cuz of 1 good month of ball in dec last year is crazy work

[@rxndxlph]

20 and 10, assist leader, ultra efficient shooting is not a fluke

[@franklingroup5460]

Ur in trouble

[@MrUrbanLyfe]

I’ve always preferred Nembhart over Hali.

[@EjinPagh]

Injury + having Pascal who also demand the ball in his hands reasons why Tyrese playing like trash.

[@chirkotelhin1806]

🤔

[@kevinian4854]

pascal is not a former all star smh

[@And.One.Hoops1]

He literally is. That's a fact, not an opinion

[@pinoyreformat]

Warriors have TJD

[@taraji59]

Player make one good season and they put max on their ass

[@keving5711]

Mark Jackson would save this locker room

[@And.One.Hoops1]

Stop

[@revolutionday1]

He'd be forcing pocket Bibles into all the players lockers every week....