The INSANE Cost To Own A Honda Private Jet

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In this video, Greg a Honda jet owner takes us through the process of buying, operating and getting the type-rating certification to fly a Honda jet.
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[@TheBarzook]

You have to compare the costs for the same trip, not for the same period of time. One hour in the jet will get you maybe 400 nm away while 2 hours in the 22T will only gonna get you 250 nm away.

[@paulhoover7226]

Very interesting, too bad about the audio

[@wyganter]

Operating costs for the jet are so high that he can’t afford a wind cover for his microphone.

[@barryrothman4692]

1/2 correct. A private airplane owner can fly his own airplane for profit. All he has to do is get a single pilot Air Carrier Certificate. He can then do charters. I did it!

[@BopperNoStopper]

Highly recommend a Dead Cat filter for your mic, it really reduces the wind noise

[@rse1973]

The Part 135 will be irrelevant to most people. This airplane will be flown mostly Part 91. That is all the pilots I have met that fly the Honda Jet. True...there may be some that need to fly as Part 135. But, even if you are an employee of private company (as in a non-charter non-aviation company), you'll fly Part 91. To get around Part 135 "ownership", put the plane into an LLC or a Trust where that is the owner and not you. Now you can fly part 135 with "your plane".

[@johnwisniewski8712]

That was one of the most thorough plain economics video I have ever seen. Awesome.

[@chrisgilbert2152]

DAMN, COULDNT HANDLE THE AUDIO

[@cdr92663]

My bf is a g650 error pilot, flying gulfstreams for decades. His owner has 2 650er . His bonus was 15k and is type rated to be captain and charter cert. Type ratings are insanely expensive. But he has never flown on an hourly basis, even the.cessnas and phenom. Once someone chartered g650 and the passenger sat on armrest of a seat and broke it. $250k at the charter guest expense putting the owner out of travel for a few weeks with that plane.

[@kevinmorr6062]

This was great. This guy is a great interview. Love the insight

[@aldohattonduran5227]

Good work Mike!👍🏻have a great Sunday ✈️🛫🛫🛩️🇺🇲

[@lougostinger6574]

Great meeting you today. Enjoyed our brief conversation. Look me up next time your in Northern Michigan. Lou

[@mojogrip]

Likewise Lou!

[@triedproven9908]

Sounds like you need a quarter billion to get started comfortably. And you'll burn 1% of that just to touch the bird.

[@kailexx1962]

The new Honda Echelon jet will be cross-type rated with the Honda Elite jet. One type rating to rule them all.

[@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday]

Sadly, I can't understand much of what he's saying. Most lav mics are omnidirectional and are best used when you're inside in a quiet area. If you want to be capturing audio outside, you need a noise-cancelling mic that's unidirectional, meaning it has a cardioid or super-cardioid pickup pattern. Mostly they're going to hand-held or head-mounted because they have sharp off-axis noise rejection -- like the mics pilots wear when they're flying. TIP: Sabinetek makes some small Bluetooth mics, the SmartMic+, that have built-in omni mics, but there's a unidirectional element you can plug into it and they work fairly well. Get a pair and you can plug one into your camera and put the other one on the person you're interviewing -- one works as a transmitter and the other as a receiver. Or use both to connect with their software and you can interview someone and capture one mic in the left channel and the other in the right channel of the audio or video. Another solution would be to get a handheld shotgun mic, like what news reporters use when they're doing outdoors on-the-spot reporting. They're highly directional and some are designed to plug right into cameras. You can also get a transmitter and receiver combo for some that will let you work wirelessly.

[@jerryuma]

That is rude comment.

[@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday]

@@jerryuma Well, I'm sorry you found it rude. However, that does nothing to change the facts that: (a) I could not understand most of what was said; and (b) I'm not the only one to comment here about the poor audio quality. However, I seem to be the only (so far) who has made any suggestions about how to avoid this in the future. I love Mike's videos, and I suspect that just like his piloting, I'm sure he likes to learn about ways to make his videos better. The typical lavalier mic is omnidirectional, which means it picks up EVERYTHING in ALL DIRECTIONS. They are NOT good to use in noisy environments. There ARE ways to deal with that, and I offered some suggestions. That info might even help you at some point in the future, as opposed to just complaining about the audio quality.

[@jerryuma]

@@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday thank for the helpful and nice response. I understand your point now. My mistake for thinking it was rude. You were giving a suggestion like you said. So please accept my apologies.

[@bobacue]

How on eath is this a rude comment???? LOL @@jerryuma

[@arizonahd]

I love the Honda Jet! I wish I could afford one 😂

[@scottmattern482]

Is there a way to buy in on an aircraft that is chartered for profit? I can't get a medical clearance to be a pilot, but it seems like maybe buying part of a jet is an investment opportunity?

[@garysheppard4028]

When you study video the first thing they teach you is that people will watch a video with poor visuals but they'll turn off if it has poor sound. Case in point...

[@noelstewart-burton9155]

Interviews in the hanger. Too much wind noise

[@Regimented]

Does each of the 6 passengers have to pay 2000 dollars, or they have to contribute towards the 2000 dollars?

[@RealityTrailers]

So the reason for the massive windy sounds was for more realism, right? Other than that...

[@davidjoseph7142]

That wind sure had a lot to say

[@MarcPagan]

Yep - any jet has a higher cost per trip than a piston or most turbo-props. That said, the Honda sure looks like a fun jet to fly. But, sitting in the back, it's not that much more comfy than a refurbed pressurized Cessna Centurion, ....at a fraction of the operating cost.

[@vincem2759]

Can someone explain why a pilot can't fly their own aircraft for profit? I thought that how it works.

[@colossalko]

Laws

[@terrarecon]

Yes you can, with the correct license. You have to be a commercial licensed pilot. That is not the same as the license rating Southwest, United, or Delta pilots have. They are transport licensed pilots. Commercial licensed pilots typically fly private jets for their employment. Some are owner operators.

[@1230mkelly]

​@@terrareconFacts. He is telling half truths.

[@kigen818]

@@terrareconwtf are you saying lol airline pilots have a commercial pilots license. The ATP rating is higher than a commercial pilots license. So while you are right and commercial pilots can, airline pilots can as well and do the job 1000x better

[@reggaerocket]

What he’s saying isn’t quite correct. To operate charter aircraft, requires an air operator certificate. These are issued to BUSINESSES…not individuals. So? A pilot can own the plane AND own the business that has the AOC. And can then fly their own plane as a commercial charter as a pilot for his own business.

[@mikebrady2073]

Good to know.

[@josue_kay]

Mostly a great interview of the wind 👍

[@samiel6334]

I can really see the colors of the wind.

[@mts982]

what about vision jet?

[@bsmerchant9865]

Sound is not perfect... good info though. Thank Mojo

[@viralml]

Great info! Wow, expensive if it's a hobby!

[@2WhiteAndNerdy]

As fantastic as the Honda is, now I can understand the appeal of the Piaggio P.180!!! Comparable performance without as much hassle or crazy expense! Yeah, I know. Still not "cheap" at all, but a good bit better at least!

[@JZainbear]

Did anybody even check the audio before releasing this?

[@64jmoore]

Be aware of WIND NOISE! Sometimes I can't hear you!

[@ImNotADeeJay]

gee... I was almost decided to buy one, but after watching this, I am having cold feet

[@rogerdavid9397]

WE NEED CLOSED CAPTION

[@TheSchwartzIsWithYouToday]

It has closed-captioning, and it's actually pretty good. Click the button at the bottom of the video.

[@sandyshoals7565]

Really thourough report. I do, however, really wish I could've heard you better.

[@versatec1]

Cost to own any jet...LOTS+LOTS...Thats all she wrote folks! 😅

[@versatec1]

@@afdkj despise nike and despise goverment and governance more!

[@ronineternal3842]

U wanna monkey, u gotta pay for the bananas 😂

[@edutaimentcartoys]

wow, amazing private jet

[@tobberfutooagain2628]

$1,000.00 per hour? No way… What about the fixed costs? Insurance? Ramp fees? The price of the plane? More like double….

[@hbertolinih]

Try Piaggio Avanti Evo. 40% less fuel.

[@DanFrederiksen]

So much could be better. It's smeared in so much artificial difficulty. I inquired with pratt and whitney about the engine that the 1600kg Eclipse uses which is the smallest turbofan in production, half the size of the Williams on the Visionjet. They wanted 911k$ a piece for a series production, not a one off. It's a step up from a turbo in a car and they wanted a cool million for it. It's simpler than a piston engine. I knew the piston engine makers in GA were the problem but turns out the turbine guys are much worse. If someone actually did smaller turbofan engines at way more reasonable price and a plane would be made as a single piece carbon fiber fuselage instead of the complexity of riveted sheet then everyone could have twin jets. If you imagine a lancair or sr22 or bonanza sized sleek light plane with two jets that could retail profitably for 100k if done right and for series production. Let's say the volumes Cirrus sells. Close to 10x cheaper than a Cirrus SR22T and twice as fast with double the fuel economy. And no fear of engine replacement cost and it would last the life of the plane anyway.

[@DanFrederiksen]

A small light simple to operate jet could also convince FAA to not have such draconian requirements for proficiency. We shouldn't tolerate creeping extreme costs without just cause. Say sub 1 ton weight could be exempt.

[@bendover-bz4bc]

I did not understand a word bro. What are you saying?you want cheap planes or your staging a rebellion against propeller engine?

[@DanFrederiksen]

@@bendover-bz4bc why not both? :) when turbofan jet engines can be as fuel efficient as piston props then piston props should have disappeared in 1960. And a plane can really be quite simple meaning inexpensive to make.

[@KRYTEN451]

Easy. Just retrofit your doner aircraft with 2-4 JC P400-PRO engines, which cost a reasonable 12K each, and which produce a respectable 89Lbs of thrust per copy.

[@DanFrederiksen]

@@KRYTEN451 nothing reasonable about that price and they are turbojet engines, not turbofan. there is about a factor 2 difference in fuel consumption. on top of those being crude toy jets. but in principle, yes, it should be very easy. Engines suitable for besting a cirrus SR22 would be shockingly small.

[@willterrell2748]

I see you wearing a microphone but I don’t think you’re using it. Terrible audio, can’t hear anything but noise

[@sicasni]

it's like piloting a jet fighter.

[@user-yq3fz9ch5q]

You should've went in the a/c for the video and closed the door🤷‍♂️

[@richardlay1492]

Why two pilots only need one in his honda jet and 6 people where they all set one bathroom

[@mannyfc2091]

Better audio next time

[@dillonfreed]

Just go in the plane and record... lol ... solution right behind you

[@elangovanelangovan5769]

Please service center office address

[@ericm333]

“Can’t be more than 100 degrees higher” what does that mean

[@Pilotfredish]

I believe he means 100ft above the assigned altitude, not deg

[@ericm333]

Jus giving the guy a hard time 😊

[@itisito4769]

Next time you make a video make sure your in the wind on a airfield with a lot of noise. And if the the audio is sh*t you can still post it 🙂

[@therealscifi]

WHAT’D YOU SAY? I CANT HEAR YOU OVER THAT DAMN JET ENGINE!

[@ronaldvanengen1887]

If Your flying private u can Recoup what the flight ✈️ Costs!! Say this Fella is Flying and Has 3 Friends riding along and the Flight cost $1,200 ÷ by 4 people each pays $300!! It's in the FARs!! ❤😊

[@TheArgosReed]

I would worry about the cost of a good microphone first.

[@batymahn]

It’s interesting that you can own and charter your own yacht but you can’t own and operate your own jet aircraft.

[@mattym8]

You can and people do. Buy the plane. Get type rated. Lease it to a charter operator (that you own or is third party). Fly it for the charter company. Fly it personally when off the clock. Happens every day. This guy is misinformed.

[@LOVE2Flute]

What did he say?!?

[@Fitzrovialitter]

Why not try again when you figure out how to allow your audience to hear?

[@chrishull9983]

If the sound is this bad - why post this ??? 🙆🏻🙆🏻🙆🏻

[@beeceesp1386]

You are wearing a lavalier microphone - but the sound was recorded by the camera’s built in mic. Why didn’t you do a quick test to see if your transmitter pack was switched on? And later, when you discovered it wasn’t, why not reshoot your rambling presentation? Instead you went ahead and edited - knowing the sound was unusable - and then posted it! If this is an example of your level of skill and professionalism - I can’t imagine anyone crazy enough to fly in an aircraft with you at the controls!

[@1PITIFULDUDE]

He didn’t complete the checklist.

[@TimeServed.]

Hes a pilot not a content creator . Good lord go complain somewhere else Karen

[@steveshaver3197]

Audio is terrible.

[@trade_design23]

Thumbs down for publishing this with bad audio. A true professional would have the correct equipment to begin with. Why did you not simply take the time to reshoot the video with the airplane in a hanger or some other way to make the audio audible? If you are willing to proceed with mistakes on your videos, how does that reflect on your flying?

[@ericsd55]

OMG you're a monster. You realize that YT is for amateurs first? And, to dump on Mike's flying based off of his productions? You're a jerk. Never watch Mike's stuff again and go away.

[@SauloMogi]

Couldn`t understand anything

[@mmmjjj2387]

Bad sound...

[@ptroy72blue]

Just be done with it...buy a falcon and hire the pilots and massage therapist

[@nickj1663]

Based off this audio alone, I'm not flying with you. Unwatchable

[@andynorwich197]

Pathetic audio

[@Whitey_Ford]

🫡. I love this plane. I’m looking at buying. However I have many friends and family in Poland and I’m on the east coast USA. So I’m trying to find something that can go a bit further in distance. I wish Honda made a larger version. :(. 😆 🤷‍♂️

[@nYatYm]

Why not make a refuel stop along the way?

[@1230mkelly]

​@@nYatYm😅😅😅....If they only had a filling station ⛽ in the middle of the Atlantic Ocean 🌊.

[@Whitey_Ford]

@@nYatYm still have to cross the Atlantic confutable …. Maybe it could work. What’s the max distance on these again ??

[@nYatYm]

@@1230mkelly a fuel stop in Greenland maybe?

[@alancohen5688]

Or extra range tanks