The Internal Contradiction of Liberalism

[@GeneTonics]

You sound like you talk to yourself a lot because other people can't stand you.

[@polemeros]

You sound like a true philosopher. Where did you get your degree in high-level dialectic?

[@andrewhosfeld]

I’d argue that the “progressive” mindset is primarily, if even only, concerned with the intent of the policy rather than the objective analysis of said policies failure or success. If a policy, or program, fails to achieve the intended outcome the “solution” it is almost always the double/triple/quadruple etc down of funding or commitment to said policy. I would add that yes intent of a policy/program vs the actual result is problematic in conservative societies/systems as well but I would say it seems as the paramount feature in a “progressive” one. The intent factor I think also explains the rampant Machiavellian moral licensing found in “progressives” too.

[@BenedictBeckeld]

Yes, I think there's a lot of truth in that as well.

[@andrewhosfeld]

@@BenedictBeckeld just to be clear, in no way do i think this is the only problem or factor 🤪. i recently got into a twitter argument with people i wouldn’t describe as “progressive” but their issue with my claim was that i didn’t understand the intent of German Unification. I certainly understand Bismarck et al’s motives for unification i just reject it led to something better. But it was interesting in that their perspective was highly focused in on intent & not outcome.

[@BenedictBeckeld]

@@andrewhosfeld Indeed, yes. And in "Western Self-Contempt" I say that Bismarck's unification spelled cultural death for the German lands, as had Alexander the so-called Great's unification of Greece.

[@andrewhosfeld]

@@BenedictBeckeld you and I are both EU citizens, as my mum is 100% Irish, and although I do enjoy the freedom to live & work in other EU nations, I have made the argument that the EU is an offspring of the same unification mindset/agenda found in German (& lesser extent Italian) unification. This again as you said is leading to the “cultural death” of the German, French, Irish etc into some banal United States of Dysfunctional Europe.

[@BenedictBeckeld]

@@andrewhosfeld Precisely so.