The Internet Archive Is In Danger...

[@ethanbell6217]

If internet archive shuts down, we will lose millions of books, movies, video games and other media. This is gonna be a huge loss for the lost media community

[@BlekJamal]

@yoz2020 Muta said boi u fugly

[@gokrtkd816]

@Yoz bye Dbag

[@og_3rd_st_saint_gat]

Good thing they can ignore the lawsuit and keep the site back up

[@rootz420]

Lmfao. Lost media? You think thats all that its for? Lmfao.

[@atch300]

History in general.

[@Mr_Pmg_Gaming]

As someone that restored his childhood computer recently, internet archive was the ONLY place I could find the drivers and restore disc I needed. Someone in 2020 cared enough to upload the discs, and without it my old Pavilion would have likely remained a paperweight. Internet Archive should be treated like a digital library, free from corporate or governmental interference.

[@knellycornnan5132]

A great example of how important this is.

[@IloveHildasfeet]

This needs to be heard, we have to save internet archive

[@WatcherKoops4677]

AND games that are not nowhere to sell on the front store anymore

[@CrucesNomad1]

Jesus christ, have you ever heard of punctuation? Your rambling word salad is barely readable.

[@jackingwads7513]

Fuck I was having a hard time finding all the drivers for windows 7 I couldn't imagine finding older drivers and manually installing them all

[@captainhydrodus4616]

This is why I insist on everyone archiving EVERYTHING no matter how small

[@DexieTheSheep]

​@Yoz Now that I think of it, the phrase "my paige" has probably only ever been used by spambots. Besides people talking about spambots, obviously...

[@Terraff6]

@@DexieTheSheep ya its being spammed in almost every single reply

[@Chillerll]

@@DexieTheSheep yo ive just seen yoz spamming all over chalies new video too. YT needs to get this under controil

[@Xvladin]

Most people won't and they'll kick themselves. If you don't personally hold onto it, on YOUR hard drive that YOU backup and check for errors, it will be gone. Younger people think the internet is forever, and have no idea that things that once were on the internet eventually will not be.

[@Chillerll]

I try but it's kind of expensive to buy tons of hard drives.

[@JackedThor-so]

This lawsuit literally made me donate to the archive - I suggest anyone reading this to do the same.

[@Yummibear7]

Give me a link

[@roflBeck]

@@Yummibear7 Just search for "internet archive," it ain't hard.

[@KaiUndMoritz]

@@Yummibear7 google: internet archive donation

[@zBrainlezz]

Mutahar didn't directly say this, but he did imply it: the success of this lawsuit against the Internet Archive sets a precedent by which other corporations, possibly in fields other than book publishing, could go after the Archive for hosting and/or freely distributing literally any piece of digital data they could otherwise make money off of. If enough corporations do so, they very well could effectively kill the entire project. *That's* the really scary part of all this.

[@ausername4590]

Can I quote you on that? I'm trying to let my campus know about this situation.

[@zBrainlezz]

@@ausername4590 Sure

[@jktech2117]

i will say anywhere i can, they should try to move their stuff to russia since copyright rights there, so much piracy is now legal in russia so they definitely should move their stuff to there... i am pro piracy because it hurts big corps that just want to profit more and more and it forces them to lower the proces and be more customer friendly. meanwhile media sucks everyone should pirate to just dont let these corps get any money and actually learn something... people can break them and this is why they need to understand they have to serve people well or they will break

[@rosyfeather468]

@@jktech2117 what about small/indie companies?

[@jktech2117]

@@rosyfeather468 first of all, piracy can help a game popularity to grow just in case of minecraft was... for sure most just played the cracked version for years but then bought the original eventually... a good game make people buy because both they want to support and because theres features that will only be available by having original game. second of all, piracy is more damaging for the big companies isnce people are aware that if they dont pay for an indie game it will take from their small income, making people pay for the game out of compassion, the "think of children"-style of anti-piracy talk comes from the big companies because people just consume from them for the higher amount of features in games and because its mainstream, but they been screwing up and the last thing they want is a pro-piracy movement that will just break these companies. pro-piracy only affects negatively the bad games and content, and might cause the good stuff to grow just like was in minecraft. bill gates himself supported people pirating his system because it was the easiest to use and once people get used to it they would become dependant on the system so he could charge for cloud services like office 356. an artist just fears piracy if their art is not worth spending money with.

[@atch300]

Internet Archive is easily one of the most important websites on the internet.

[@ZdrmonsterProductions]

CAPTAIN OBVIOUS TO THE RESCUE!

[@atch300]

@@ZdrmonsterProductions you’re safe now

[@kenosabi]

Oh they know. It's not an accident.

[@criptin4075]

Yes its right up there with the hub!

[@ZenSolipsist]

Library of Alexandria 2.0

[@vgf64-27]

I don't understand why certain people are hellbent on destroying preservation of any kind. It's pretty disgusting to think that the Internet Archive's future is in jeopardy.

[@_Jay_Maker_]

They want to erase history so they can rewrite it with all of their "positive" and "inclusive" messaging instead of the "unhealthy" reality that we actually experienced during those eras.

[@hellomikie92]

It's called fascism. Something that is totally not on the right.

[@Blue2x2x]

@@hellomikie92 Sorry but fascism doesn't care about left policies or right policies, it's just fascism. A method to force laws onto people's rights and freedoms. And don't go "But it's only the woke left who's fascists", yeah and I know what's Florida, Texas, and Tennessee doing right now for "safety". And let me remind you, "those who give up liberty for security deserve neither".

[@AS-fu1kd]

Power hungry control freaks who want to rewrite history and delete the existence of anything they don't like or want there

[@ForceMaximus84]

Narrative Control

[@nightshadehelis9821]

Nobody should have the power to rewrite history. It's disgusting that websites can be taken down just for having the audacity of a different narrative.

[@notimportant3033]

Get used to it, this is the future we're headed towards.

[@BitMan1010]

@@notimportant3033 how about you get used to these nuts

[@user-cf6fo6bj1u]

@@notimportant3033 Nah

[@IloveHildasfeet]

I’m still glad R34 is safe

[@CyberCripX]

@@BitMan1010 gottem!

[@Ganein19]

IMO, The Internet Archive should be considered a Digital Monument that was afforded all the protections National and International Landmarks have.

[@toukoenriaze9870]

not just IMO ... it holds the same signifigance if not MORE than most irl monuments

[@artemisDev]

@@toukoenriaze9870 far more than a monument

[@xyhasanamazingalt9583]

its literally the library of alexandria and we are setting it on fire, not even on accident this time

[@albanesdesempregado7080]

​​​@@xyhasanamazingalt9583 this point, i'm even questioning if Alexandria was a accident.

[@The_Slavstralian]

Wouldn't it be great if there was a law that basically stated "if a company stops maintaining, or making available an IP it loads the right to litigate against someone else maintaining it"

[@epicm999]

If only 😔 Though there's probably a reason why that law hasn't been made yet and I'd love to hear their reasoning, assuming they have considered it.

[@Xamdify]

@@epicm999there is one reason, money. They don’t care about the products.

[@epicm999]

@@Xamdify Eh, that's a super shallow reason. Licensing issues seem like a cop-out unless there's a genuinely good reason as to why those exist. Guess I'm after something deeper.

[@ADeeSHUPA]

@@epicm999 あっぷ

[@GDnewbie]

But there is a law stating basically that…

[@gavrielshemesh7825]

Maybe we need an internet archive archive

[@Sockren]

@Yoz yeah we get it hes a wigga jinx

[@IloveHildasfeet]

Modern problems require modern solutions

[@Giantkiller94]

Or archives on multiple locations, with multiple copies, it will eliminate the loop issue. (You won't be stuck in an archive of an archive, in an archive and so on.)

[@user-wn8oe1yy4c]

This sounds like a modern The Simpsons storyline idea.

[@benardman2665]

Big brain

[@cfljeff]

The Internet Archive is literally preserving human history. Why would someone want to take down.

[@SlavTiger]

GREED

[@crow2989]

From what i saw, The Internet Archive violated copyright law. Even though it was corrected, that still violated the law. I and many other don’t like this lawsuit but it’s not like it came out of nowhere for no reason.

[@XG417]

​@@crow2989 Shouldn't something like a massive archive of information be exempt from the Copyright law? It's not like they're financially benefiting from it or using IPs for their own ends, they're just preserving information and data

[@crow2989]

@@XG417 is piracy always good? Is stealing fan art always good. Someone could create a page with stolen art am not benefit from it. Doesn’t mean it’s not wrong. The Internet Archive is in this lawsuit because they broke copyright law. The Internet Archive is massive yes, and it’s useful yes, but breaking the law, especially a copyright law can set precedents that can effect things down the line. If it wants to continue operating so freely and accessibly, it needs to follow the law otherwise bigger consequences can come down. Like i said, i don’t agree with the lawsuit but i’m also not going to pretend the lawsuit is for no reason. They made a mistake, fixed it, but it still happened.

[@OrthoKarter]

money

[@TheSilverwing999]

The fact that we might be witnessing the modern version of the burning of the library of alexandria saddens me so much. And we might not be able to prevent it either because a bunch of ancient uglies don't understand the importance of media preservation. I wish I could be my old optimistic self again but it's getting harder every day

[@AS-fu1kd]

I think we just gotta ride this one out. It's gonna get so bad

[@Teixas666]

they understand it well enough ot know its a stupid idea. their issue is the the archive is also an archive of their mess ups that preserves their history of questionable decisions. by shutting it down these groups are hoping ot control the narrative by hiding their history. we should NOT allow this.

[@SlavTiger]

BE AN ACTIVIST AND CALL YOUR GOVERNOR! "I will vote for your opposition should you side against The Internet Archive."

[@alfonzo9289]

They want the site down because all these people are getting caught with edgy tweets after pretending to be sanctimonious for the last 5 years.

[@AS-fu1kd]

@@SlavTiger I truly believe voting no longer makes any difference to anything in Canada.

[@Tanookicatoon]

This is genuinely one of the biggest thing I'm honestly worried about today. This is seriously going to be like the digital burning of Alexandria if the archive goes down.

[@warmpianist]

What's horrible is that sometimes the corporates don't even have these materials available, yet they are actively preventing us from having these materials.

[@ThorfinnSonofThors892]

*We live in 1984* War is peace Freedom is slavery Ignorance is strength

[@lunarnocturne]

It's crazy man. Without your Nostalgic Web Browsing series, i never would've discovered this website and the importance of digital preservation.

[@IloveHildasfeet]

Yeah, internet archive is important to many

[@TyCal_]

Oh damn crazy seeing you here I came across your channel a couple days ago and have been going through your Saints Row reviews and I gotta say they’re some of the best reviews of the series I’ve seen to date. Wanna just say keep up the good work man! Really looking forward to the second part of your SR3 review

[@lunarnocturne]

​@TyCal Haha! Small world amirite? Didn't think my videos would have that much reach lol. Thanks so much for the love, man. And yeah I've been watching Mutahar since the creepypasata days. Crazy seeing how much he's grown. One love, homie.

[@Cayde-MBX]

@@lunarnocturne facts tho

[@darkspartan566]

For real definitely

[@zetafish7347]

All these companies get mad at people for pirating or "allegedly" pirating. But what did they expect? If they're not gonna re release these things and let them die to time of course we're gonna pirate them and of course we're gonna preserve them. Someone has to.

[@USS_Sentinel]

These companies want everyone to buy the newest "live service", MTX-infested trash in order to milk their customers and satisfy their shareholders.

[@mhopkins7954]

Exactly 💯

[@skully3242]

Yep. I literally just used the Internet Archive yesterday to get some lost in time VST Plugins for music production. I otherwise wouldn't have been able to get them if it weren't for the Internet Archive.

[@AnimationNation2004]

I use internet archive to upload a MeTV show that seldomly reruns older episodes. Is this piracy? Yes but what do you expect for a show that like I said rarely shows older episodes.

[@USS_Sentinel]

@@AnimationNation2004 I don't think there is anything wrong with piracy in most cases.

[@cutekittypetter]

The day the Archive goes dark, the internet is doomed.

[@IloveHildasfeet]

Tiktok already doomed it

[@jacktheflash8478]

@@IloveHildasfeet how so?

[@falloutthewindowcrazy7608]

@@IloveHildasfeet times running out..... Perfect pun here based on the website name

[@Waltman13]

while some archives will still exist elsewhere on sites like youtube and such, the loss of internet archive will undeniably be tragic.

[@baconsarny-geddon8298]

Its already happening. Certain people (like notorious sex-pest Jonathan/"Jessica" Yaniv. Or Bella Janke, the troll who got Chris Chan to bang his mother) have already got their names removed from the Archive, to better hide their fvckery. Once a site/service like that starts playing favourites, and succuming to demands for censorship, it's useless. ANY archived page/site could vanish tomorrow, if the right people email the admins, requesting deletion. NOTHING Archived is guaranteed safe.

[@Osakarmakun]

Thanks to the Internet Archive, i found a book from 1888, who describes how was my city in those years, and it really makes me angry that companies just want to destroy history.

[@atlas_19]

10:58 That literally gave me chills. Even just thinking about it is sarrowing. Legal systems really have to recognize when a project is integral to human causes and actually too big to fail and punish and compensate accordingly to prevent the demise of it.

[@AdyaGD]

If the internet archive goes away the internet will literally break

[@rios5944]

Remember when Cloudflare went down?

[@ince55ant]

and a whole bunch of real world machinery with no other documentation...

[@Corey_Mckilling]

no, it wont.

[@Red-wm6bt]

@@rios5944 cloudflare goes down every few months

[@AdyaGD]

@@Corey_Mckilling a lot of websites rely on the internet archive

[@SavageSurge45]

The copyright act itself needs to be updated as it is easily exploited

[@rossorange2592]

It won’t be, it’ll never be.

[@crow2989]

@@Z3ROPLUS abolishing copyright means their is no incentive for most people to make new things. We put in the time,money, hardwork and risk to make something new when the minute it’s done, everyone else can just use it without even acknowledging you or your contribution. I’m not saying current copyright law is perfect but it does serve good for a lot of peopleZ Especially freelances like small artists or creatives.

[@JohnnyYeTaecanUktena]

@@Z3ROPLUS No that's a bad idea as copyright needs to exist but not be this fucking stupid

[@IaeyanElyuex]

Blame Disney. This copywrong stagnation is 100% on their lobbying to keep Mickey.

[@DeevDaRabbit]

​@@crow2989Then just make Creative Commons the norm

[@thephoenixking1086]

Clearly a case of "Money is more important than preservation".

[@USS_Sentinel]

In capitalism, money is more important than EVERYTHING. Even human life or the entire planet for that matter.

[@breakingbruh4930]

@InfiniteSouls 💀

[@immortal_shrooms6757]

@InfiniteSouls elaborate

[@USS_Sentinel]

@InfiniteSouls Allow me to clarify. AMERICAN-style capitalism. You know, the country that has practically turned it into a religion. Other countries do capitalism sure, but not to this extreme. In other countries there are more checks and balances on it. Still far from perfect, but better than the US for sure.

[@MrNickPresley]

@@USS_Sentinel "American style" capitalism is the direct result of the government trying to step in too much, allowing for the creation of what are essentially corporate cartels and de facto monopolies that create the situations you seem to think are endemic to the system. A free market corrects itself. Ours can't, because the government can't resist the urge to overreach and over-regulate. It's also rather odd how they make America out to be this dystopian hellscape when you have the WEF telling you to your faces that you will own nothing and by god you'll like it.

[@crimsonshadow1140]

internet archive is one of the main sites that is keeping a lot of my older consoles alive, especially the dreamcast, and it's also one of the only ways to find and experience games that have never seen an official release

[@SlaaneshiChaplain]

_Could _*_you_*_ imagine one of your favourite KZbinrs, maybe someone who makes interesting, funny or educational videos and that you have been a massive fan of or supporter suddenly passing away? Could you see KZbin having a future policy update and the videos get struck for a pedantic community violation or false flagged for Copyright use and seeing the entire library disappear, almost if they were erased from existence, no remaining evidence of their hard work and dedication and no way to rewatch and enjoy what was once freely available. How about a book? A film? A game? A journal entry detailing a historic event? It’s happened before, here’s your chance to help stop it repeating._ *_If this happens not only is this a step backwards for humanity and the freedom and preservation of knowledge but also a terrifying and evil visage of what is yet to come._*

[@epicm999]

Well said..

[@TylerTMG]

How do you tilt I know how to *bold (**)* but not how to tilt

[@epicm999]

@@TylerTMG it should be underscores around the text

[@TylerTMG]

@@epicm999 _test_

[@TylerTMG]

@@epicm999 *_test_*

[@Xxatanaz]

Someday in the near dystopian future. It’ll be “yeah I remember that game. It got me through the darker at days in my childhood. too bad it was lost to time, even though the cloud has more than half my life memorized.”

[@adrianscripts8013]

Imagine if this actually happend, it will be like the burning of the library of alexandria.

[@yourtimetraveleralara]

Yeah

[@og_3rd_st_saint_gat]

Good thing you can always not listen to the companies and not take it down

[@Gengarglindeeznuts]

I love it when girls don’t wear shoes, sad that R34 doesn’t

[@HeckingHampter]

LoA only had a couple hundred thousand books. This would be the burning of the LoA times a thousand

[@Kira1Lawliet]

It'll be much worse. The amount of information and knowledge that we've managed to catalogue on the Internet Archive dwarfs what the Library of Alexandria had. It would be the single greatest loss of knowledge and information in all of history. If it happens, someone MUST be punished for it.

[@Isaac1995]

Closing down the internet archive is like closing down all museums in the world.

[@pititbossou]

*a museum

[@river559]

@@pititbossou No, they had it right. Most museums showcase the same pieces of content to begin with, for it to constitute a single museum it'd have to be a monumental one of equal scale. Equating it to all museums is a valid comparison given how much content is preserved on the site that doesn't exist literally anywhere else on the internet, and will not in the future. This isn't like if coolmathgames or wikipedia ends up shutting down.

[@angelsachse9610]

@@river559 As an active Wikipedian, shutting down the Internet Archive would likely take Wikipedia down with it. There are likely tens of millions of Sources that are only accessible through the Internet Archive, as the original webpages have been taken down ages ago. It would literally undo 95% of all edits I ever made. We must prevent this from happening at any cost!

[@pititbossou]

@@river559 the difference is that museums actually house important stuff. i guarantee you 40% of everything on the internet archive is random shit that no one will need. but i also think corporate greed is a bad thing so i am totally against these companies attacking the site

[@idonhaveanyideawhattocallm1472]

@@pititbossou you say that like that 60% of internet archive wouldn't be more numerous than the average museum

[@ijs733]

As a historian this is one of the most important websites in existence

[@Dripularstein]

I pray that the internet archive is left alone and nothing being removed or deleted forever.

[@megamix5403]

If it wasn't for the Internet Archive, I wouldn't have had the privilege of watching Song of the South. Especially since Disney wants to effectively scrub it and act like it never happened.

[@Labyrinth6000]

They literally worked with von Braun, who worked with the Germans in WWII and was pardoned in exchange for his rocket research.

[@nicestoriesnottherealstori3006]

The thing is that becomes public domain in 2041.

[@OrangeYTT]

@@nicestoriesnottherealstori3006 Ah good ol' disney. Extending the copyright of a character well past the deaths of everyone who was alive to originally see it.

[@hellomikie92]

Song of the south will stay up on there

[@FreeAimDog]

i found out the show from furry porn, they like the fox alot and i had looked it up and found out it was controversial but when i watched it i could not find where the controvert was. you could tell it was still by disney at the time because everyone was happy and manners for the most part (besides the kids bullying the puppy) huh, now that i think about it that must be why people dint like it.

[@scottsiglinhd2777]

The fact boomers are making decisions about something they don’t understand much about is just kinda sad and annoying.

[@thedoomnegotiator9693]

We should advocate for mandatory retirement -camps- homes.

[@themanwithnoname4385]

That's what Happens when you don't vote correctly. You vote for clowns, you get a circus eventually. You did it to yourselves

[@thegamerfe8751]

@@themanwithnoname4385 unfortunately most people who vote are just like them, tech illiterate.

[@marionette8739]

​@The Man With No Name sounds like you're unfamiliar with the American election system: it's clowns and monsters top to bottom. There is no one running for any office that is neither a monster or a clown... or both. Quite frankly, this country was bought and sold decades ago, all these elections are just the illusion of freedom, that you have a choice.

[@Ozzianman]

​@@themanwithnoname4385 Problem. There have only been clowns to vote for on my 24 years on this godforsaken planet.

[@CPorter]

I've been around with all the scares since 2016. The first adpocalypse. The loss of Net Neutrality. The second Adpocalypse. Article 13. COPPA. And so many others. To the point now where I've been confident that nothing will really change. Except for this. This is the first one to really scare me. Mainly because I'm writing a book about history right now, and a shit ton of my research comes from places like Internet Archive, which thuroughly deserve to be untouched. Entitled fucks trying to destroy our library and archive sources.

[@hellomikie92]

Yeah fascist leftists

[@Yatukih_001]

Then stop thinking everything is a coincidence. When people talk about something like a plandemic or tell you that you are not being told the truth, listen to them.

[@rgbeet]

@@Yatukih_001 I mean half of them only say that shit to try and sell you their beliefs. It's hard to really trust people when there's sociopaths using scare tactics to manipulate people

[@redfromberk]

@@rgbeet this

[@CPorter]

@@Yatukih_001 you lost me after you said "plandemic" unironically, and 3 years later. Plus, I'm one of the people who tell others the real narrative as apposed to the fake ones that everyone wants to beleive unquestioningly.

[@abhinavbharadwaj4629]

Big companies have been railing against this for a long time. And not even on the internet but also to real world libraries. They've been lobbying to refund libraries and have managed to get a lot of libraries shut down in past decade. They don't like people being able to share books without them getting a cut

[@gagejohnathan9641]

They're doing this because they know nobody will actually do anything about it, no Matter how tough they make themselves sound, no-one will stand up against these people.

[@SlavTiger]

Call your governor, be that person. Threaten to vote for their opposition if they side against the archive.

[@zephyr8072]

Some nerds may be familiar with Starsector and it’s lore where basically civilisation is stagnant and held back because of copyright law locking down everything, even technology and information vital to human progress. Seems we’re headed right for that future.

[@seeinred]

Persean Sector went fucked for 207+ cycles due to that. Hope we avoid such fate.

[@Labyrinth6000]

So what do we do about this? There are malicious people who throughout history steal other peoples property for financial gain.

[@MarkFin9423]

@@seeinred unfortunately it will be like that unless someone has a few billion dollars to campaign for modernizing/defanging the current dinosaur copyright laws so corporations can no longer abuse said system.

[@ZdrmonsterProductions]

Never heard of that, where can I read it?

[@ryguy9876]

@@ZdrmonsterProductions Starsector is a video game.

[@zegengar4042]

Remove internet archive is like burning a library

[@rusi6219]

Haha just archive the website then access it via the waybqck machine

[@Silver_Nomad]

Not just an ordinary library... A Library of Alexandria.

[@FreeAimDog]

so much for once its on the internet its on there forever phrase

[@CPorter]

Unlike how people said this for the Net Neutrality stuff, Article 13, The Adpocalypses, COPPA, etc; this will actually fuck things up for everyone for decades to come. Most people wont understand this because they haven't really been to the archive, but it's exceedingly fundemental in even researching anything too. It's literaly the most important thing on the internet as a whole. The entire history of commercially recorded sound has been uploaded slowly over the last decade, so we can hear music recorded by singers and bands from the 1890s - 1960s in full clarity; millions of books to research and get more information about random or obscure topics, not to mention TRADE MAGAZINES and LEGAL DOCUMENTS spanning centuries back. Podcasts, silent & pre-code movies hopelessly out of distribution, games, puzzles, any significant and insignificant media type has been archived to some valuabble degree on Internet Archive. Loosing Internet Archive will be equivalent to the Library Of Alexandria burning, someone Tactical Nuking the Library Of Congress, and overall setting back access to knowledge of humanity for literal decades. This is THE most important thing we have online. KZbin dies? A huge loss for sure, Facebook Dies? same thing, both of which can be survivable still. But the one place that everyone falls back upon? unthinkable.

[@TheHipisterDeer]

Exactly people don't realize how much valuable data is in internet archive... Found a lot of old videos that I literally can't find anywhere else on the internet but only on internet archive... Not to mention my library close like a few years ago since the coronavirus came so it's been a pretty useful tool.

[@warux8674]

We need this site to stay up. It's the only way to access some of my forgotten flash games.

[@quantum5661]

damn bro really? i thought flashpoint had like every flash game ever made

[@Xvladin]

Lmao what?? Dude, DOWNLOAD THEM you fool. It's ridiculous to just cross your fingers and hope someone hosts in on the internet forever (they won't) when you can just RIGHT CLICK AND DOWNLOAD IT

[@warux8674]

@@quantum5661 Flashpoint is just another library that heavily depends on Internet Archive.

[@heyjeySigma]

suuuure bud... we know you want to access those Zone Flash "games".. wink wink 😂

[@vodkawhisperer3923]

Yep they store all the swf files conveniently

[@ashleytyraisaacs]

As an academic, the internet archive is huge asset for 20th and 21st century works. The idea of copyright is a fairly new in human history. So barring access on the basis of copyright is unique to academics of this area. The biggest issues is that the Internet Archive isn't just free or just easy. It's the ONLY place of access. Even if I wanted to pay for the materials, they aren't available because copyright has locked it all in a cage. Lots of things are already lost. There are texts that have lasted for centuries because copyright didn't exist and sharing was normal. It's easier to get 1800s nsfw than it is to get popular books , comics, and games from the 60s onwards. After 50 years, so much is just lost. It'd be different if copyright holders put effort into conservation, even without accessibility, but they dont. Ironically enough, I'm up for a book contract with penguin. It's literally historical nonfiction project about the late 20th century. And honestly, I'm thinking of pulling out completely. It's a project that wouldn't exist without the internet archive. There's a chapter on the Sims. The first generations of the game can only be accessed by some sort of archive.( And if anyone is wondering, Penguin doesn't even pay much for historical nonfiction books despite selling them at a price much higher than other genres.)

[@mpo48]

this is why drastic measures need to be taken against the people who want to take these archives away.

[@numberofthedevil977]

The amount of lost media, lost websites, lost videos, lost music, etc that's going to be gone forever if the website gets shut down will be the biggest blow to the internet every.

[@cbygelightbulb]

From what I understand, it wasn't actually that the internet archive lent out as many as they wanted, but rather it was that they connected with closed libraries to extend the amount of books that could be loaned digitally since those books weren't going to be loaned out anyway

[@DeronJ]

Really? I'd love it if you have a reference for this. It completely changed the story that the publishers are saying.

[@SlavTiger]

@@DeronJ Yes this needs to be known and word needs to be spread!

[@Yatukih_001]

What this is about is control. These guys wanted to control all the knowledge. A new Library of Alexandria had been built - the Internet Archive, to store all the world´s digital books. Federal judges looked at this with greed, and four publishers put themselves into trouble because they wanted to sue them for making this knowledge available to everyone.

[@toukoenriaze9870]

isnt that completely legal tho because if they now own or partner with those closed libraries they now have more seats for the books and stuff ON RECORD for existing

[@YE4rt]

As the first two comments say, reference would be very much appreciated as it can change the whole perspective of the situation if this is true.

[@legoshi6531]

Copyright holders are the same kids who bought toys, never played with them, and got mad when another kid played with them instead.

[@hope-cat4894]

The archive is the only evidence we have when someone posts something that can held liable in court even after a person attempts to delete it.

[@alfonzo9289]

Plus all these people want it down cause they are getting caught with edgy tweets after pretending to be sanctimonious for the last 5 years.

[@WhiplashPuppet]

Friendly reminder. When everything is political, nothing is. If you've been paying attention then you know EXACTLY why they wanna take down the archives. SPOILERS, it's not because "Muh piracy."

[@garuelx8627]

No wonder they're trying to shut it down.

[@Ben-ud8vd]

Anything that goes against Taylor Lorenz and her political/emotional agenda gets removed, blocked, and censored. How is that good for archival purposes? Back in the day the wayback machine was good, now it sucks. Other options out there that don't censor things based on certain agendas.

[@Cloaker86]

@@Ben-ud8vd who tf is that

[@trooperstallion]

I remember in 2020 I had to use it for an important source for one of my political science essays. What happened was the site I was using was shut down and I didn’t log the source in before it happened. What saved me was Internet Archive had archived the site that I was using in my research, and I was able to cite my source in the end. It saved my life, academically speaking. It’s not just that, I remember some of my college/university professors used the IA as a means to help students understand what they needed to learn about. If the IA gets shutdown, this could potentially lead to professors and teachers to be unable to help students find the needed material for class in terms of primary research. Heck, this could lead to a chain reaction of other places, like Turnitin, and so forth to get erased from other aspects of archiving work. It’s literally the ultimate destruction of the modern Alexandria Library.

[@QuinteliusRalfus]

I love the internet archive, even if I don't use it a lot, it's great that it is there when it is needed. Just the fact that I can actually find my old webpage I created in the mid 90s is pretty amazing (they really started preserving the internet early on). I really hope this doesn't jeopardize the existence of the archive but at the same time, I can't fathom why they would chose to do something that so obviously would get them in trouble.

[@SlavTiger]

They collaborated with other libraries. They had licenses. The publishers fucking lied and it's working.

[@aslandus]

I know it wasn't cool for the Internet Archive to authorize removing their DRM measures without consulting the companies that hold stake in the works those measures applied to, but keeping this lawsuit going after they undid that bad call seems much worse.

[@mariogallego5513]

I was just about to say this. I agree with you

[@w花b]

Unfortunately no one is willing to knock at that company's door.

[@CrystalWings12]

@@w花b Because they're tone deaf, probably the only thing to make them listen is money.

[@tylisirn]

Unfortunately that is also the reason why there is absolutely zero way IA can win this lawsuit. IA was in the wrong legally, period. There is no legal defence for what they did. Only way IA can win this is through extra-legal means, if the companies that brought the suits will be willing to settle or withdraw it. Donating to IA won't help, you need to make your displeasure known to the publishers. Mass boycott them. Raise a stink.

[@gustavonomegrande]

They don't care about preservation, only money. It's impossible to cull digital piracy, there's always a way to copy something to share. You can literally film the screen scrolling the book and make a AI to OCR everything. Like game piracy, it's a problem of service. It doesn't matter if you worked 20 years on your book, if the masses find it overpriced they WILL get it any way or another.

[@TippyHippy]

I put my hamster in a sock and slammed it against the furniture.

[@brodiscool2752]

@@TippyHippy i ate the sock and had 20 different cases of heart disease

[@zigaudrey]

If Internet Archive is gone, the Internet will be gone. Books has to be archived. They are social items. A look on how cultures evolves. It took me long to learn that books are created as survival, to shape our identity, to make our life interesting.

[@ZdrmonsterProductions]

book

[@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933]

Interesting that we are slowly hurtling back to the medieval ages where only the rich can afford knowledge. This is already the case with universities

[@zigaudrey]

@@vastcast_ Whelp, my English isn't perfected yet! French is my main language.

[@vastcast_]

@@zigaudrey mb bro sorry

[@zigaudrey]

@@vastcast_ Don't worry about it.

[@BluesM18A1]

During times like these I would urge people to donate to this website. Even if you can't afford to give them more than a dollar each month, I say give them that dollar. It's like Wikipedia keeps saying, if everyone reading their articles donated that small amount each year, they'd have no trouble staying in business

[@TheEpicGBX]

The fact that the libraries of internet archive are in danger is a huge concern to not just me but for so many students! Like you guys have no idea how much you could've save thanks to the books from IA were still use for a bunch of college classes.

[@matthewdawson3979]

I use the Internet Archive to find bootleg recordings, professional broadcasts and etc from artists that I like. I hope the Internet Archive doesn't shut down, it'll be the biggest blow for everyone if it does happen

[@jennifertrandafir]

Couldn't agree more. Especially since there's a lot of stuff that can't be found anywhere else on the internet, not even KZbin!

[@TylerTMG]

Need to backup the archive :( it's petabytes and petabytes

[@TylerTMG]

Probably

[@ambralemon]

Would unironically be the contemporary equivalent to the burning of the Library of Alexandria

[@jesuschristiskingforever7142]

The library of Alexandria didn't have that much knowledge and the burning of it wasn't actually as big of a deal as people made it out to be because most of the information that was lost during the burning it wasn't even that vital and the library was already in a poor state

[@emeraldfinder5]

@@jesuschristiskingforever7142 source?

[@jesuschristiskingforever7142]

@@emeraldfinder5 Google it bro 😭 just do some basic research tf 💀

[@TheCapitalWanderer]

​@@jesuschristiskingforever7142 source?

[@VermyScrubs]

@@TheCapitalWanderer his source - trust me bro fr

[@skinwalker69420]

Let's not forget that Penguin-Random House, one of the companies in this lawsuit are currently rewriting big sections of Roald Dahl's books due to them having content that the publisher doesn't approve of in them.

[@jamesp1389]

Wow did not know this will look into it. How can they alter classics???

[@mortemtyrannus8813]

@@jamesp1389 Two words: sensitive readers. Because in this day and age, the Ministry of Truth is a real thing, and they still do a good job at rewriting things to fit their agenda, regardless of what anyone else wants.

[@skinwalker69420]

@@jamesp1389 They got permission from the Dahl family because of the recent trends towards political correctness.

[@mizutsunebubbledragon3382]

Rewriting stuff is the most grimiest shit ever, mainly in regards to trying to censor or spin a different narrative that was intended.

[@skinwalker69420]

@@finkamain1621 why did you buy a copy of Mein Kampf?

[@josephb8268]

The internet archive is the most valuable resource on the entire internet. I have found things on the internet archive I have not been able to find anywhere. For example my local town history. So it's not just the internet they are preserving for future generations. They are preserving knowledge that spans hundreds of years. To lose this library would be like losing the Great library of Alexandria all over again.

[@vbucci6894]

Since the word is being spread, we should be donating to Internet Archive to help them out and show our support for what they do.

[@nigel-Rollercam-channel]

This is brutal, I'm barely into computers and realize how devastating this is. Some people in my orbit have complained about my hoarding tendencies. The fact that I have 1000's of items between software on discs and floppies, dvd's, VHS, Laserdics, Vinyl records, cassettes and mindiscs is for exactly this reason. Manuals for bicycles and cars that I work on as well. I am sick of the deterioration of sharing and the commoditization of the internet amongst everything else in our lives. The people suing the I.A. are leeches and human garbage.

[@THE_VictoryPictures]

My heart skipped two beats when I got a notification for this video and I read the title

[@internetgodlilbihh]

its depressing frl

[@ivanthehighman177]

Same...

[@___Sunflower]

Same!!!! The title scared the sh*t out of me!

[@ponyoplushie]

Why can’t they just leave internet archive alone, they didn’t do anything wrong

[@EpiKLyeah]

This is very bad news. I use internet archive for a lot of totally “legal” activities, so it being in danger makes me scared that I cannot do totally “legal” things on it.

[@theredpanda00]

I do the same, though the totally legal things I do are so specific that I would be crushed if we lose the archive. I'm surprised half of the totally legal things on there that I look for have actually been uploaded.

[@CB13212]

Watch Europa the last battle

[@AwesomeYena]

I need it to read Warrior cats!

[@ZdrmonsterProductions]

Copyright infringement isn't the crime, it's the censorship provided by copyright that's the crime.

[@dopesickdog]

@@AwesomeYena there are all kinds of totally legal book PDFs on deep web markets, textbooks even, for literally 1¢ in bitcoin if it comes down to that. got me some great reads, and more lol

[@ImSpecialDurr]

There is a lot of nostalgia and history in the internet archive. I hope it does not disappear.

[@freedomdude5420]

I think this is too danger. This going to open a huge can of worms.

[@dandrive3249]

I’ve been going to college to become an archivist and this honestly spooked me a bit. I hope the internet archive will be alright moving forward and this doesn’t have huge consequences.

[@lepidusflos]

I haven't finished this video, but as someone who often gets very sentimental, typically regarding the 2000s-2010s internet, TIA means alot to me personally. The thought of it ever shutting down or losing a big chunk of it's history makes me a bit sad. :(

[@SlavTiger]

Call your governor and state "I will vote for your opposition should you side against The Internet Archive. It is a second library of Alexandria."

[@lepidusflos]

@@SlavTiger As much as I wish I could, I'm in Oceania; so I don't know if I can :"D

[@NouraZahle]

There are rare out of print books that are still there. If that is lost, a lot of history will be lost as well. If you do happen to chance upon those books, the few remaining copies could be upwards of hundreds if not thousands of dollars. To lose such a resource of old archived books would be like another burning of the Library of Alexandria.

[@NouraZahle]

I wrote my comment before the video finished. We were of the same mentality with the fires of the Library of Alexandria.

[@rezandrarizkyirianto-1933]

Well, there's still Project Gutenberg

[@CPorter]

Almost all of recorded sound history from the 1890s - 1960s have been preserved actively for a decade. Considering the way that youtube is going, Internet Archive is the only for sure area to find that stuff (not saying that youtube bans copyright music) etc.

[@TylerTMG]

Damn after the 60s no more sounds wherent recorded???

[@hudysonsestari8228]

The other day I was just accessing the internet archive to watch old shows like Dungeons & Dragons because I couldn't find all the episodes anywhere else, I bet there's even more rare stuff there that would be lost forever if it's taken down.

[@chanpasadopolska]

We really should support Internet Archive, by this mainly I mean support them financially, they need to have good lawyers. If they will lost just because of our lack of interest, it would be dramatically sad.

[@rukitomikutochi8764]

1800s: Remember History. 1900s: Record History. 2000s: Destroy History.

[@justabunny999]

2100 destroys earth ?

[@taylorslade8080]

@@justabunny999 more like monitor the correct history

[@Gandhi_Physique]

This is dumb. All 3 have been happening simultaneously since written language.

[@TheCarpenterUnion]

​@@justabunny999 2100: become history

[@PickleRicksFATASSCOUSIN]

Year 3000: What's History?...

[@Verdugo_Arulaq]

Damn I really hope this archive isn’t destroyed

[@TessaBain]

It already is because they actively censor the archives ideologically.

[@exotic1405]

We are terrifyingly close to the biggest bruh moment of all time

[@TheCheeseMovesSideways]

We're treading on thin ice rn, who knows when it'll break

[@afistfulofpimples1745]

I hope it gets destroyed, I'm sick of it.

[@randomtinypotatocried]

I'm so tired of people and corporations lately trying to destroy everything. I guess I'll need to go back to archiving books since Internet Archive I use a lot

[@WikiThis]

I always loved just looking through really old magazines/newspapers and reading through them. It's super interesting to reading through specific topics I'd never even think about if I didn't stumble upon them.

[@danielstockley5631]

This is also why physical media are so important. Books, newspapers, games, movies, albums. Look at how these scummy woke streaming services are quietly removing episodes of classics like Seinfeld or publishers changing the words of Roahl Dahl's kids books. Our culture belong to us. We need to guard it jealously because they've already started straight up pulling 1984 type shenanigans.

[@captainfraser3827]

if this gets taken down, it will be genuinely larger than the loss of the library of alexandria if we cannot back this up to offline storages.

[@InsaneGamersPro]

I can understand these big companies doing what they're doing, but this is just too much. They could literally destroy decades of internet history, all because they got mad that their books were being freely downloaded for a short period of time. Just slap them with a fine and be barred from doing something like that again, unless they go through the proper methods and channels.

[@SlavTiger]

Allegedly working in collab with other libraries they actually did have the licenses, and therefore are being sued for literally following the law.

[@toukoenriaze9870]

legally freely downloaded cuz they DID have the supply IN PRINT at the time

[@bane2201]

@@SlavTiger For the record - I am adamantly anti-Big Publishing, I "locate" ebooks in ways that don't support publishers, and I'm pro-shortening the length of copyright to (e.g.) 20 years. Not saying any of what I write below to attack the IA. I love IA, I'd take a bullet for them. But AFAIK there's no ruling on whether CDL (controlled digital lending) is legally allowable. The idea behind CDL is "1 file can be distributed per 1 book you have, as long as the book and the file aren't both being used". I looked but couldn't find anything saying that, during the Emergency Library, other libraries were taking books off their shelves. And since there wasn't _any_ waitlist, it couldn't have been _controlled_ digital lending. Even if other libraries were taking books off their shelves, what if IA had 3 copies off shelves but loaned someone a 4th copy at 12am? Libraries couldn't get it off shelves for around 9 hours. I know I'm "rules lawyering", but... well, I am, I'm saying what lawyers would argue. Not because I agree, but because this was a _terrible_ idea on IA's part. Publishers have a vested interest in _not_ letting the Open Library exist (and not letting CDL be legal!), and this gave them a good reason to sue. And even if CDL was legalized by an act of Congress (*), that wouldn't have made IA's conduct legal. As it stands, there isn't a legal distinction between piracy and uncontrolled distribution of files by non-copyright owners. (As it stands, even CDL is piracy. Copyright law gives owners the exclusive right to reproduce or distribute their works. If there's no precedent saying CDL is legal, then it's not allowable under current copyright law.) * - Speaking of that: I wrote to my reps about trying to pass a bill legalizing CDL and opposing the SMART Copyright Act of 2022. I strongly suggest you do too! If CDL was legal, it'd mean that (if IA survives) IA could keep the Open Library going as long as it was "1-to-1".

[@Piant_Genis]

This is digital book-burning. Drives me crazy. These 4 publishing companies are evil for doing this

[@dobbyisfree7870]

They are always projecting their crimes. They where the ones destroying vital information and hiding truth. Everyone trying to do good gets called natsee.

[@g4m4n4t0r]

Man, internet archive helped me a big deal while I was writing papers for university. This is super scary and sad.

[@chrissant6277]

This is why I trust books with storage of information. Books can be remade but the physicality keeps it on its origin forever.

[@tgtussockyb7037]

Imagine waking up and your whole book collection is gone. Damn.

[@kardoxfabricanus7590]

Piracy is a service issue, never blame the pirates always blame the companies for being predatory. It takes no labour to copy and paste a file, unlike real tangible work.

[@CorruptedShadowDarkStar]

Just like what gabe newell said

[@uis246]

When big company wants to fuck with average peoole - it uses copyright law, when big company wants to fuck with authors - it uses copyright law.

[@sdtqwe4ty7742]

I was vying to buy a pc once I got a small amount of monetary agency.The quest 2 and reasonably price Series S with the reasonable game pass subscription. Quest 2 cause I didn't want to deal with buggy cracked game or whatever in VR even though /r/questpiracy is easier then anything and Facebook actually moving the needle on gaming technology and are generous (got hand tracking via FREE update,crazy). And VR game developers are just less entitled charging 30 bucks max. And I probably have autism, it's very easy to trample over my boundaries and cajole stuff our of me. All that's between someone who wants my shit is some piece of paper... Vs digital video game's are all inaccessible to interloppers in the cloud and access is reasonably cheap 300eollars for Series S Also admittedly Grey marker key resellers. wth the excitement of finding a deal navigating a functional but scuffed looking sites vs the smooth frictionalless experience with on Console while directly supporting the developers (on sale obviously, so sometimes it just amounts to an extra buck).-> The fact that we as society don't know if coffee is expensive or not when I'm buying a 40 dollar game for that much makes this discussion neither here no there, thats what I can support the end. What defines categorically different platforms is literally how they tritely access discussion(Google group's used to be integrated into youtube's comment section or am I misremembering? It's trivially easy to find something you want to discuss become dead in the water). So while yes you can just copy and paste the same game's seamlessly. Tighter integration at the most trivial levels can elevate the experience so much. Even if the free platform has achievements,cloud saves,etc.

[@TylerTMG]

If people like you they buy from you people Like Ninja Kewi has FREE archives of flash versions it's a fantastic company I would buy there games if I had the money. But like EA if everyone hates you everyone pirates except the pirates so you can play a game without giving them money Edit:do replaced with so

[@Xizilqou]

I hope nothing bad happens here, internet archive is really cool

[@yourtimetraveleralara]

Yeah me too

[@ihaterosa129]

TikTok needs to be shut down, not other things on the internet

[@Seras99]

@@ihaterosa129That act will make the internet go full on 1984 since it goes way beyond just getting rid of tiktok.

[@yourtimetraveleralara]

@@ihaterosa129 yeah

[@rhetz1562]

The internet archive is the modern Alexandra

[@thebeaniehatkid]

Basically burning down the library of Alexandria.

[@cyrilio]

The Wayback machine by then is amazing. If you’ve ever used the feature then please consider donating to them.

[@ryebread69420]

i never thought about internet archives until i heard you talking about it maybe a few years ago. since then i’ve actually firmly believed that it is very important to preserve the information and media that we threw into the void of the internet. the internet has so much of our history scattered in odd random places and i really hope that the internet archive gets through this and doesn’t have to deal with something like it again

[@haroldcampos9661]

I save it all. Every time I watch a video on youtube it goes into a playlist. My mind feels less clouded when I don't have to constantly recall everything. (I wish I could save those offline anyway) I have a big hdd too on top of my ssd for saving large files and stuff. It only spins up to save or read a file. There's forum posts I made in 2005 there on wayback machine, that I found just the other day. I'd hate for them to lose in such a way that everything they offer besides the stupid book library is gone.

[@serioushex3893]

there are a few super ancient let's plays that i quite enjoyed, but were from the Pre-youtube era (Blip and viddler, both dead now), and the only place they exist nowadays are on the archive. so being able to find them again, was really nice. it'll be sad if the archive goes.

[@oz_jones]

I never even heard of viddler and i have been online since 1993.

[@manynukes11]

Might as well be the 2nd burning of the Library of Alexandria

[@Vopilu]

That may be the best analogy for this situation.

[@imselfaware419]

Several other people already said this, you ain't clever.

[@artemisDev]

@@imselfaware419 this has nothing to do with being clever, it's a common thing many people can come up with people don't usually have time to scour comments as much as you do so they don't find the duplicates.

[@battinghat]

I REALLY don't want the Internet Archive to die since there's so many cool things on there that I can never find it anywhere else (I'm mainly talking about things related to Pro Wrestling that are on the Archives) They are so important to me

[@Robert_D_Mercer]

Omg, You just made me remember those old WWE clips that even WWE's official website won't host anymore. Like there ARE some matches fully cut with Benoit.

[@battinghat]

Not only that, but there are many New Japan matches that are not available anywhere else

[@Khino.978]

Start Archiving!!!!

[@NOBLE0307]

“If you want to control the future you must erase the past”

[@dinkopeychev5203]

This reminds me of 1984...."Whoever controlled the past controls the future, Whoever controls the present controls the past..."

[@blakeoms]

I was using the internet archive to go back and save some thought to be lost photos from over 15 years ago, and even now I was using it to recently find Fritz the Cat in decent format and watership Down, which are by todays standards not exactly appropriate to a certain audience, but the saving photos from the myspace era was a real help on the way back machine.

[@Aeduo]

The people who own these properties aren't afraid enough. They really need a lot more pressure on them. The longer they aren't afraid, the more and more they'll push and take. Ideally, they would just not exist at all.

[@DansuB4nsu03]

I know this is probably unrelated to the topic of the video, but I just went to the Internet Archive website and, according to their blog, the San Francisco Board of Supervisors unanimously voted for a resolution to back up the rights of the Internet Archive and other similar internet libraries in terms of data preservation and public information access, saying that 'the archives have a right to keep the information they digitize'. We may have hope for things turning out for the better, but only time will tell.

[@Buffysbuffet]

As a music producer the resides in productions influenced by vaporwave infused nostalgia, it'll hurt me deeply if the Kmart tapes get taken down. That's just one of the largest gold mines of sampling. Not just from the music that played off those cassettes, but even the advertisements, announcements, etc etc.. Hope there is another site I could find those KMart tapes.

[@estusflask982]

download it all

[@Buffysbuffet]

@@estusflask982 I could, yeah.

[@Phobiuses]

Now is the time to ARCHIVE EVERYTHING!!!

[@PiomiStrawhat]

Lol

[@finkamain1621]

Even if so many people do, you'll eventually have people wanting big money for distributing content on another archive. You see this with prototype and cancelled video games like Atari's Akka Arrh where the owners do not want to release the ROM to the public

[@shin-ishikiri-no]

Yesterday was the time. Actually, 2019 was the time... before the WEF started its initiatives.

[@kardoxfabricanus7590]

ALSO VERY IMPORTANT INFO FOR EVERYONE!!! When it comes to internet bills, laws etc. Contact your local representatives!!! Phone call, text them, fax them (yes they do still use fax machines) do whatever it takes! They do listen to their constituents when there's a massive uproar over something, it's why it's so important to have as many people contact as many representatives as possible to swing laws in favor of preservation of internet archives.

[@lagpi]

Literally clicked to save my life, especially when I saw it had to do with internet archive going bye bye!

[@nickelmypickle]

I feel like people as a whole are sick of greed and I can’t wait to see what happens when we the people have had enough

[@uis246]

Here's fun fact: in some countries can legally copy books or just scan them. And then send put it publicly avaliable for people to download.

[@shrimpfry880]

hungarians just don't give af. teachers photocopy everything

[@deffteapot]

God I really hope to keep our Internet Archives. 100% with you, I am sympathetic... but I am more for preserving the internet.

[@cruzmedina4943]

Ladies, Gentlemen, dogs, It's time to archive the Archive

[@IraSavatgy]

THe archive in its entirety needs to be coppied and shipped to another country outside of US Law enforcement in a place such as in Africa or Russia

[@GTVNewsForGamers]

Nah, Russia's currently under the rule of an ex-KJB agent with a hard on for the Soviet Union. Give the archive to Sweden, they give zero fucks about copyright.

[@Vex22778]

Or even better have it in multiple places in the world so if one goes down they can switch to the others

[@epicm999]

They have a backup being stored in Cairo. Not sure if anyone else has enough storage to host it as well.

[@Jamesthe1]

"When publishers win, libraries lose."

[@kat8410]

I work in a special collections library and archival of materials takes so much time and dedication, not to mention VERY EXPENSIVE. I’ve come to appreciate the art of archival, it’s a sense of permanence in such a fast paced world. If we no longer had public access to the past, so many areas of innovation would be affected. My faith in the world continues to die *sigh*