The Isle's Roster Bloat

I’ve changed my mind AGAIN,sucho,plateo and maia STAY!!

[@Sir_Yangchuanosaurus]

Bary was discovered to be more aquatic than sucho and sucho to be less aquatic then we thought, Sothey would have different play styles making both staying the best idea for different people’s likes.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

ye i changed my mind SUCHO STAYS!!!

[@joshualeespiny7172]

Yeah Bary should be able to drive while Sucho shouldn't and it should be faster on land and more tanky

[@joshualeespiny7172]

*dive

[@peabrain6872]

@@joshualeespiny7172drive? Sucho is bigger than a car and so is bary i believe

[@peabrain6872]

@@baffsy just not diving

[@bacula8424]

Styraco could use its horn as a blade, maybe give styraco a parry mechanic? and I always thought of Rugops as it being a honey badger, like not packing much of a punch but incredibly resilient, like having a lowtier that messes with apexes for their food would be awesome and hilarious.

[@user-go4su7cu7j]

If they gave dryo or hypsie a burrow ability people might actually want to play as them

[@brandon97652]

Styracosaurus could be bleed based, pachyrinosaurus could be bone break based, diabolo can be a bit of both.

[@turkeyman100]

What about the trike? Isn't it already a kind of bleeder?

[@brandon97652]

@@turkeyman100 it can be bleed based and damage based as it has 3 horns.

[@brandon97652]

Plus it will have a chance of bone break cuz it's so big

[@TheKingofCoral]

Pachyrino would just be a bigger pachy styraco would be hunting Dino’s because of it’s being pretty fast and a bleeder and Diablo is my perfect whittle brittle potato

[@StelloTyrannus]

Also consider tiers, dibble might not be overall different to trike combat wise, but it’s smaller and easier to grow. Some Dino’s are just smaller versions of bigger ones for those who don’t wanna spend the time growing an apex

[@InfernoPower]

Don't worry about the whole being nice thing. It's good to finally see some positivity around this community

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

awwww merci merci 🥰

[@teo3458]

Lets be honest, we need more sauropod love in the game

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

100%

[@Chareidos]

My only personal concern about that planned/invisioned roster is, that there are not enough players out there on a singular server to fill it with decent population of each kind. Player Max Cap must be at least 250 if not over 500 to make it work.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

yeah true,they will probs split the roster

[@SoulRender3201]

There doesn't have to be every species on a server at 1 point in time. In no game do you see its entire roster in every match/server. I don't know why the isle would be treated differently. Not every server is gonna have a brachi, not every server is gonna have a spino, etc.

[@Chareidos]

@@SoulRender3201 Your point is valid and I agree! Especially with a Roster big enough that you have potentially enough species to make a split between era and region-specific set or assemble of Sub-Rosters you could continue with your argument to not have every species to be choose-able on every server at any time! But it misses the one aspect, that to set a healthy distribution of players around a HUGE map with such a big roster will create a challenge to "balance" out the experience and the validity/viability of any species, especially if you limit carnivores diet to certain species. The implementation of organs had helped in this regard for carnis to gain potentially full set of diet with any other playable species remains. Before that it was in combination with a lack of respawning AI very hard to get the growth buff for Carno up or even maintain him, since it is/was quite possible to not encounter any player even on a full server. In my experience a huge roster will sooner or later tend to have their "meta" or a over-presence of one "most-favorite" or more versatile species. Evrima delivers a far more valid experience since smaller playables can actually hide in the foliage, something that is not that easy in Legacy with their foliage. It made playing smaller ones only viable to be constant on the run and in some cases without any chance of fight or flight it was only for "oh look, I am cute and helpless". I remember back the time (before Evrima), where everyone was choosing Allosaurus (in mega packs) and how that made the whole experience shallow for everyone else! After that you always had those Apex Mixpackers. In anyway my argument stands up. NOT ENOUGH PLAYERS! Between those "pillars" you need to "balance" it out: Map Size, a functional Roster and a good Player Count.

[@SoulRender3201]

@@Chareidos even with that, no matter what players will find a meta even in smaller rosters. Take legacy for example as you said, allo was a predominant pick even though the legacy roster was less than half that of evrimas planned one.

[@Chareidos]

@@SoulRender3201 I do not know how many of the planned or suggested one are actually gonna happen. Whatever is gonna happen, I really hope the devs are gonna manage to prevent those situations, where 20% of the server population is playing the one Meta Species as one mega pack, while 50% are one of the Apexes and the rest is either struggling, hiding or only play for the lolz.

[@DaltoniusW]

Cool video as always but I have a few critiques 1. The blatant removal of vital herbivores in each tier. In the small tier there are only two true herbivores and 8 carnivores, 2 herbivores and 1 omnivore. You cut that down to 5 carnivores, 1 herbivore and 1 omnivore. Same thing for mid tiers where you remove corytho, styraco, Maia AND plateo. 2. The apex power level in comparison when you decided to remove all pseudo apex carnivores (not counting quetz) We’d get an even more insane version of apex bias. Putting preferences aside it would be more logical to remove both Giganotosaurus and Spinosaurus and keep Suchomimus and Acrocanthosaurus from a pure gameplay standard. There is a 5 ton jump between Alberto and the next largest carnivore otherwise. I’d just say keep both Suchomimus and Acrocanthosaurus since they are VERY vital to game balance. 3. The blatant disregard for balance in favour of picking and choosing animals you like or don’t. Like randomly removing Troodon despite being an established creature but keeping Velo for whatever reason. I summary, this bloated roster would be absolutely horrible for balancing and this wasn’t super based in reality. Although I still do love the way you structured your video and can’t wait for the next!!

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i can only thank you for being honest,i caved AGAIN and brought sucho,maia and plateo back

[@mikaelangehagen7251]

​1 year later and im stilling waiting for my boy slightly diffrent carrcharodonto- i mean acro insted of giga@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

@@mikaelangehagen7251 meet back in another years time and we'll review how things have gone lmao

[@mikaelangehagen7251]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx give them 10 years. Minimum

[@Oppositebreak]

If I ever made it dinosaur game, I would add all species of dinosaurs, even the newly discovered once

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

not IF my friend,oh no,WHEN you make a dinosaur game😉

[@anicronyx2313]

Now that we know a little more about the future plans, I don't think roster bloat wont be an issue. Apperently server owners will be able to adjust what dinosaurs are available for players to pick. If they pick a certain bunch of dinos, they could make some interesting ecosystems with it. Same goes for officials, why not just make a few dinosaurs be exclusive to a specific server? But hey, thats just my opinion, excellent content! 👍

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i like your opinion,and tbh if it was up to me i wouldnt get rid of any apart from maybe one or two,and thank you💎

[@laythdorsey4713]

I really miss puertosaurus he was basically the face of the isle everyone loved them and every small dinosaur would look in awe as they see one walk in the lakes or seeing them fight of hypos I hope they come back one day even though it’s scrapped

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i misss seeing them around :(

[@laythdorsey4713]

But even then I don’t mind the choice of how many dinosaurs are in Ervima in fact I love how much species we get to play as from carcharadontosaurus to camarosaurus but the old ones are the ones I hold dear to my heart like orodromeous or the Oreo’s one of the cutest dinosaurs in the game

[@nightfury4399]

i wand more pugway memes

[@espinossauroquilombense9777]

i don't think any dino should leave, the devs can just make whatever they want to make dinos different like making carcha a dino with infection on its bite, making brachi a super fast sauropod (even tough still slower than most animals) and these things, troodon will have venom, velo can be the fastest carnivore to make it viable, these things will make the entire roster viable

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i would keep alll,but this is if i had a gun to my head

[@guarddoggo]

But with a 100 server cap, the chances of finding your own kind will be very hard. How would pack oriented animals exist when they can barely find their own kind?

[@Eiderhanne]

@@guarddoggo I think and hope they will increase the size to 150. I have been playing on servers with that many and it seems to work pretty fine. Probably would be a lot better too if the devs did this. But we'll see :)

[@someguywithawi-ficonnectio931]

​@@guarddoggochances are they're gonna raise the player cap from 100 to 150-200 when update 7 comes, atleast imo

[@guarddoggo]

@@someguywithawi-ficonnectio931 i still don’t think thats enough space for the amount of dinosaurs they want to add, but i do hope the server count does increase.

[@Marcin9200]

My suggestions for realistic utah: make the juveniles gliders, a bit slower, the fathers give it damage absorption and No injury when falling from high altitudes and stronger bite but less bleed. Also realistic utah should be a subclass for the utah.

[@drterraminator2651]

Also much more bruiser like build, honestly yeah utah is the gigant bruiser of the raptor famaly

[@Marcin9200]

@@drterraminator2651 Yes thats right, utahraptor had t rex like headshape, it would fit it perfectly.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

babies gliding is interesting

[@sergioibarra3461]

yes and less stamina but much much more bite damage and faster running speed bursts. It should be a solitary/small pack ambush hunter not a pursuit bleeder like omni. I’d say almost able to solo a carno easier than omni If played well. It could also be able to latch but not climb.

[@jasonberryman1035]

I’d also say a jump should be included. While it was very large and robust studies on the similar sized and similarly built achillobator indicate it possessed the ability to leap. As such I’d expect the same of the only somewhat larger utahraptor

[@j.c-6424]

I think that Brachio could fit in The Isle as long as it's extremely painful to grow. Make it 18hs to grow and You'll see almost none

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

18 hours is hefty

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

Tbh i was thinking more 24 hours

[@j.c-6424]

@@IndominusRex-wc1ey 36hs better

[@imaginaryproud6562]

@@j.c-6424 nah 30 irl years for the big realism

[@j.c-6424]

@@imaginaryproud6562 Then you get a mortal desease and die

[@Gigglenotosaurus]

To be honest I feel like most of the small tier dinosaurs that are smaller then things like dryo should just be ai.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

good take

[@gumblebrum]

I think they should keep them all there is no issue with having similar Dino's it just means if you like a particular style you have some variation and a new look

[@Not.TrepidKG.69]

there are not enough players out there on a singular server to fill it with decent population of each kind

[@therealjacksonfoerster]

Love the video and agree with pretty much everything! The isle does have a problem where they feel like they need to add a Dino just because. Although in my humble opinion I would switch Homalocephale with Psittacosaurus, they filling the same niche of tiny burrowers but it just seems that homalo would be able to better fend for itself and run away. Although I do still love psittacosaurus…

[@jediteddybear6903]

I can't believe you would get rid of Sucho and Arco... my two favorite carnivores. As far as gameplay goes, these two dinos can bridge the gap between apexs and the mid tiers dinos (allo, cera and alberto), they will both go about it in different ways but if done correctly I think they will help the ecosystem. Although Acro may not add much if anything as far as unique gameplay. Maybe I'm bais cause I like them but I believe they can add something to the game... if implemented correctly.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

in a perfect world id keep both🥺

[@pedrocastro3037]

I think with Styraco they could make something like a impaling attack wherer it would use the horn to pierce some part of the body and depending on the dino, it would be a instant death (with the small ones) and a crippling one (with bigger dinos), and a charge attack where at *maximum speed* he will probably one shot a medium or big carnivore would make hunting one a very surprise attack reliable rather than going in and trading attacks

[@theaaltmannova8036]

i already can see the toxic steracos who would ambush u and kill you instantly xd

[@pedrocastro3037]

@@theaaltmannova8036 yeah, but is the best i can think for him to make it somehow different

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

You've just been gaining like 70 or more subscribers like everyday This is an absolute win

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

im surprised that people can put up with me tbh😅

[@Kota0507]

cant remove the sucho, we need the fishing trio

[@EmuIix]

Damn dude you grew fast!! Came here at 300 subs and now you already have over 1k?!?!

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

you're an OG of this 2 month old channel😂

[@user-wi9vh7dm1e]

my boy plateo was done did dirty in the video 😭 glad you changed your mind about plateo tho in description

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

plateo will be getting his own vid dont worry

[@user-wi9vh7dm1e]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx *:D*

[@user-wi9vh7dm1e]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx 1 month later...

[@hytokz9341]

Orni in this video be like: "I know what I must do, but I don't know do I have the strength to do it."

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

it was hard

[@The_Primitive]

we have similar profile pictures lol

[@Echoo_779]

I never knew some of this stuff but I think some I like a smaller roster as it would be simple but nice video and have a good day!

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i do love my smaller tiers

[@Echoo_779]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx I do love my ducks

[@gambitaku6179]

Amazing vid. I was really looking forward to this

[@kuitaranheatmorus9932]

This video seriously was really good and hope you have a good week away

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

💎🥺

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

Sucho, plateo, and acro should stay imo. Plateo can be a unique deep jungle animal, ducho can be a unique grizzly bear boi compared to jaguaryonyx and spinopotamus And acrocanthlsaurus should stay because when he's been made that fat and blubbery i think there's enough room to make him different from allo and giga

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i changed my mind on sucho and plateo(my beloved) they're both staying

[@rylandfrederick431]

Sucho would be a land based dino similar to allo and carno, but stronger, so it's a semi apex fish eater. Acro is very similar to rex and sucho, it would be weaker than rex, but have higher damage and less bleed that giga.

[@Matheus-ek2wy7cv7r]

They really make a fictional species to have a utahraptor without feathers ? Really ?

[@darkonyx6995]

I think NO dinosaur should be removed, because people deserve to play as their favorite species, and i'm really frustrated i can't play with Corythosaurus in ANY dinosaur game, and as such, i want them in the game. Every dinosaur is the favorite of someone, and just because they aren't as "exotic" or "unique" as the others shouldn't be a reason to dismiss them.

[@darkonyx6995]

That*

[@teagan5494]

I like bloat, I mean, the more the merrier. It’s like skins, and each can very really well if you think about it.

[@benjamingraafhuis5822]

Id also say add iguanodon for sure and maybe Sinornithosaurus would be cool which is the only actual dino to be thought as venomous plus it would be able to glide and jump way higher plus if it rain they couldn't glide and are not that fast at running because of all the feathers so if caught in the open plains it could get caught or at least put in Microraptor and you should make a conspect vid on ornimegalonyx as that would be pretty cool

[@lvl5dino749]

Sinornithosaurus wasn't venomous. Also the point was to get rid of playables, not add more. Iggy would be cool, but it's kinda just para if the devs didn't make it cringe.

[@benjamingraafhuis5822]

@@lvl5dino749 y your right but i said thought not was and Sinornithosaurus and it would be so unique and would be better than troodon and herra as it could replace both of them and be cooler because it can glide and it's a game so we can just go with the old theory even then it still would work as small gliding dino that could climb

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i shall do ornimegalonyx JUSTICE

[@minnihd6470]

7 months later and god i love playing troodon

[@cro-magnoncarol4017]

You're merciful, in my list I took the roster down to just 23...

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

23..? jesus,wjat did those poor dinos do to you

[@IndominusRex-wc1ey]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx he made a dinosaur version if the Norse Mythological Ragnarök

[@FantikSalmakii]

6:31 Bro just gave us the best rap of 2023 💀🙏

[@SuperGalfrieg12]

Bro you hit 1k! Great work, keep it up, absolutely insane! Nice video as well :D

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

ty ty man :)))

[@yxngking1872]

Makes more since if ovi had Mimic since it's more bird like, it can trick dinos into running away from the nest thinking it's a bigger predator, perfect advantage for ovi in my opinion

[@StelloTyrannus]

Really the only two I think should be considered to be removed are charchar and Cory. A hint of me sees Cory work, but charchar is a definitely not. The rest of the Dinos in the roster I think are nice. I’d just hope the devs focus on the more important ones first and add more obscure ones like homa and rugops later. I’d even like feathered Utah just to give people an option to play a feathered raptor, even if it has some slight changes to Omni

[@colecampbell1906]

Dude Titanoboa would work easily. Just basically similar mechanics to the Deino drowning it's victims. Have it be so that you can grab stuff that's a certain weight or below, then you just sneak up on people or hide and wait, strike to grab them and it suffocates them if they're small enough, but if they're big enough they can possibly escape. Have it all tied in with stam as well, if the target is full of stam and the snake isn't they're more likely to escape, but if the snake is full stam and the other isn't it's pretty much doomed. It would be able to swim well, could probably climb if needed, but it would be pretty slow on land other than striking speed so it would need to rely on ambushing. That would be an awesome gameplay addition that would honestly be pretty good for making people uneasy about going near bushes kinda like you gotta worry when you drink.

[@lectroeel6290]

Idea for styraco to make it different: Holding MMB or whatever other button will allow styra to drag its horn across the ground, slowing you down in the process. Once you release MMB, you will fling debris ahead of you, blinding any animal if the debris gets in their eyes.

[@Ingen-MRU]

Troodon aged like wine 💀

[@Forestguardian]

They could Lump some animals into the same slot and just have the different species be a cosmetic choices so for example Cory and Para could be the same thing but in the character creation menu you have the option to switch between the two body types. Have them as purely cosmetic

[@Forestguardian]

I also wanna add this would function like what Nintendo did in smash. When there's characters that are exactly the same but are just cosmetic choices like Daisy and Peach. I also wanna add that if this Idea was carried through I want shant to get Magnapaulia as an alternative species choice because Magnapaulia is a really funny dinosaur

[@nmheath03]

Honestly, I don't think accurate Utah would be "worse" than current Utah, as it was such a wildly different animal than current Utah. Utahraptor was very stock and slow for a raptor, only as fast as a human, and hunted through ambushing. It would encroach on _Allo's_ niche more than anything else

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

decent point

[@vladline1882]

I'll keep Brachiosaurus as it's own high browser of it's niche

[@lvl5dino749]

Also, you got rid of all the mid tier herbivores, that's a bad idea, keep plateo as an all rounder, and maia as a herbivourous carnotaurus, basically. I think sucho could work but that might be my bias talking. I would keep acro over giga as well.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

wdym herbivourous carnotaurus? i really did want to keep plateo

[@lvl5dino749]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx it's a simplified way to explain Maia's playstyle. And yea we need at least 2 mid tier herbis so keep those 2

[@seanpellerin5703]

Looking good man. excited for more. loving the content

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

ty ty :)

[@user-nv1gi5ex7v]

Well, I would like to keep them all. Many dinosaurs, many sizes.

[@kittycatcpieqw7772]

I watched you a month ago and u doubled in subs love the content ❤

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

awww thank you kitty cat :)

[@duhzilla590xYensitheninja]

Sucho can stay as it’s plays a role of what I call the auto-apex where it can bully just about every dinosaur in game and only when encountering an apex would it loose unlike Bary who will probably fall to a carno teno or something around there

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

yeah i changed my mind im keeping sucho😂

[@saruexe]

tbh i would let them all stay in the game but there's gonna be specific roster servers,so people dont miss out on their favorite dinos

[@kaladenn6868]

Troodon is a great concept man, I was sad to hear you say it should go

[@kaladenn6868]

Good thing we know troodon is coming

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

it had to be done,for salvation

[@thepogpogger1922]

troodon SUPREMACY

[@ciaranmcguinness8900]

You don't get rid of any in my opinion, it's a dinosaur game, the more dinosaurs the better, who cares if some are similar

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

in a perfect world id keep them all.but if i HAD to. but some are just uneeded.

[@pinkfridge6111]

Bro is so nice, canadians would be jealous

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

😂

[@Marco_Polo2]

How dare you! I love maia!

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

it pained me to do so

[@Marco_Polo2]

@Orni-Mega-Lonyx Its understandable but sad

[@vitsvoboda2803]

Ngl you made better job with cutting the roster down than shiftyvee

[@ZaccaiB]

How would Titanoboa work in evrima? Its a constrictor, yes, but what would be able to defend itself against the giant serpant. Megalania has its venomous bite, while deinosuchus has a powerful bite. I can only see smaller creatures than utah be able to escape the serpant. Titanoboa would have to compete with Spino and other predators of the swamps. The snake is a big problem anywhere its goes.

[@ZaccaiB]

Also im going be playing as minmi a lot when its added.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

id say its best to make it semi aquatic and arboreal to escape threats

[@dasharkmasta678]

I’d say keep bronto, it’s different enough from diplo and arguably better. It’s much more bulky and it has the baseball bat neck (possibly spiked baseball bat)

[@thenerdbeast7375]

Keep Sucho, get rid of Spino Look Spino is a dumpster fire, real life Spino gets new discoveries about it seemingly everyday and Isle's Spino will never not be infuriating to look at. Keep Sucho and Bary since we know exactly what these dinosaurs were like with Sucho being the more land-based and Bary being the more aquatic-based.

[@ghoul6272]

I literally screamed laughing when I saw how small rugops was I thought it was like cerato sized

[@varatic644]

They can be anywhere between 500-900kg

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

mono concept it looks chonky af

[@ghoul6272]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx fr bro must have had stilts on

[@shortstaccck7965]

As an Acro enjoyer, you've broken my heart with this slander!

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i love acro as much as any fellow,but it had to be done,for salvation

[@dumbliz1477]

I am pretty sure Rugops is bigger in the isle, in the mono concept it appears to be almost twice the height of the mono

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i did think it looked a bit large

[@alioramusman5650]

Dibble supremacy

[@duhzilla590xYensitheninja]

I would just imagine styraco provided more bleed or some with that extra long nose spike

[@Oskrrr]

5:20 did not know stegosaurus was that small compared to those other dinosaurs. im in shock honestly. thought it was way bigger, at least more bigger and more chunky than triceratops. guess i was wrong xD

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

stego players are in for a shock when other big dinos come out

[@Oskrrr]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx indeed xD im not a stego player myself but when i saw that i started thinking that stegos will have a hard time surviving xD

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

@@Oskrrr they will,in albertos concept art its getting bullied

[@novastein9567]

Thing is that stegos IRL were actually even smaller. Or Trike is Just an absolute unit I suppose

[@3Kamera3]

Honestly i think the roster should just stay how it is. I love a big roster

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i like the big roster and it will stay the same

[@maximus3983]

sticky just announced on his server that he has seen your video and is planning to addres them idk how bro is gonna get out of this sitaution but thank you for the vid as always

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

lets see what he does

[@mirexgd]

I think keep sucho cuz it's a good middle ground between spino and bary

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

in heinsight i wouldve kept sucho

[@nikolasdemoulin8093]

There is quite literally not a single argument for demanding animals be removed. Lol. Each animal is loved by many people. The diversity of each tier is why the isle is fun. You see a huge variety of dinosaurs in the game and not just 1 herd of triceratops and then 50 trexes or allos, and that’s it. If I wanted a game with just 4 animals representing the only 4 niches, in it, I’d play primal carnage. Animals with overlapping niches doesn’t effect you at all. I’ll be maining albertosaurus because I love the large, but still not apex tyrannosaur. Just because allosaurus is similar doesn’t mean we need to remove albertosaurus. That Makes no sense and there’s no argument for it other than people claiming it adds development time. But if that’s your argument then the isle Evrima should end where it is. There’s already 9 dinosaurs filling every niche. We don’t need anymore, right? It’s streamlined and perfect. We have the Alex terrestrial, apex aquatic, flier, apex herbivores, small herbs, medium herbs, medium carnis etc.. using your logic the games finished and adding more is just roster bloat. Of course that’s silly. More animals will only improve the game. It can’t harm it unless the animals poorly implemented and massively broken/OP. Others more = better. Literally. If you don’t like the “useless“ animals, then just don’t play as them…. You aren’t forced to pick animals you don’t like so why do you care? It doesn’t effect you at all. But demanding peoples favorites be removed because you say so because you think the rosters bloated and too big is just goofy thinking. Selfish thinking, actually. it effects the player base negatively by removing theyr favorite animals. It hurts you exactly 0 for animals you don’t want to play as, to be added.

[@Lonely_dove]

It’s not demanding it’s just a discussion,did you not hear the start of the video where he said people are too serious these days? He’s talking about people like you,also some animals are too similar,para and Cory,giga acro and carchar,chill man

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

"people are way too serious these days"

[@homtolland9215]

Awesome takes...Definitely will miss styraco tho

[@alioramusman5650]

Dibble > sty

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

it was a hard one

[@H-3X35]

A few dinosaurs™

[@ExcellentEmperor]

If I could have anything added to the roster I'd like to see some birds.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i got you

[@Lightclaw]

Without watching this video. I do say the "large" (56 playable) roster isn't a bad thing. We know, from what Punch has already stated, that a lot of other playable won't be playable on your average official server due to very heavy similarities. And with that, those similar "double-up playables" will be available for any unofficial server; This is to build the heavy customisable-feel to server admins/owners. (Excluding global chat lol) This is similar with Gen 2 (mercs) where admins can turn them off if they feel as if they don't want the best playable in their server.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

damn i wish i knew that beforehand

[@dinohunter321]

If you have a link to where you saw punch say this I’d love to see it. Not trying to say you’re lying, but from what I’ve seen of dev comments over the past few months in the isle update videos, the devs haven’t officially stated what playables will not be available on official servers. Outside of stuff like compy, the devs have only ever said there is the possibility of not making certain creatures playable on official servers. And that’s only if they can’t balance it, even then afaik they haven’t mentioned similar dinosaurs in this way, mostly they mention it when taking about sauropods. Again, I would really like to know if what you’re saying is true, so if you have the source lmk.

[@Lightclaw]

@@dinohunter321 Not a specific link, but go to the official Discord and to the main channel. Then just go to the pins, oldest message there. But that's the oldest and most "I know" message from Punch. Believe there are others, but I'm not too sure

[@Lightclaw]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx Can always count on your fellow CC, Lightclaw, on the best and hottest topics in Islecord

[@nickrodriguez1759]

Great video essay, and as much as I love the sauropods, ya I agree some of ‘em got to go.

[@purplesnakesnak5265]

The two playables that you suggested are amazing 👏

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

they'll get their own videos in the future

[@purplesnakesnak5265]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx can't wait to see it

[@brandondl1995]

Desmodus Draculae and Dimorphodon

[@antonioandrade3751]

Don't do my boi Ava like that 😢

[@happymoomoocow]

What would the point be in removing options that don’t drastically affect the gameplay whatsoever? Every dinosaur is somebody’s favorite.

[@johncarlodimaano7235]

I understand,you making decisions of getting some Dino's out of the roster,it helps more room for other dinosaurs that are still not in the game currently,and there are some Dino's that I want to take out of roster as well,these are styraco,giga,avaceratops,corythosaurus,maiasaurus, brachiosaurus,and troodon.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

giga always be catching strays😔

[@somerandomperson6511]

Prestosuchus should replace Rauisuchus. Psittacosaurus can easily be made in to a unique playable by giving it the most complex burrowing in the game with multiple chambers and underground nesting, it can make use of its quills as well. Fuck Magy, we could have gotten a much better sauropod like Amarga, Baja or Shuno I had a whole suggestion in the isle discord before I got banned on how I would make Plateosaurus unique, I doubt they even read it but I hope Plateo makes it in anyway

[@Burritosaurus]

I fully agree that the Isles roster is bloated, and majority of the roster will not be played because of we continue in the track where servers can barely handle 150 players there’s no hope, and I blame this is on poor decision making, optimization is getting better but in lots of areas when I’m swimming with my stego here it heads down to 10-3 FPS. But on to who I’d cut from the roster. Small tiers: Velociraptor: remove Velo in all honesty, it’s cool and has been in the game for a long time I doubt many people will actually play it considering the odds are stacked against it when you only have to hunt infants if you are alone, still would keep as AI to murder unattended to babies Avaceratops: Protoceratops does it’s job as the small ceratopsian way better IMO, would still keep as AI. Omniraptor: I just don’t like it, while yeah our Utah is unrealistic the devs didn’t to make a new whole dinosaur instead of just adding feathers, give the axe to omni or keep regular Utah/realistic one with same abilities Homalocephalae: just a smaller pachy, would keep as AI Varanus: I don’t even know what it is Mid tiers: Pachyrhinosaurus: While its a super unique ceratopsian I doubt it will have get big attention and will be slowly forgotten Magyarosaurus: just a hated animal Plataeosaurus: it’s cool to have a ancestor to the sauropods but it will just seem to be forgotten, would keep as AI for any plucky carnivore Megalania: just a weird thing to have Styracosaurus: just a slightly different trike Corythosaurus: just a slightly different para: Large tiers: Replace Spino with accurate one Replace Brachi with Pue Carchar: just another large apex, no need I did give the axe to a lot of herbivores, but there’s more than carni’s and a lot are just slightly different versions of legacy animals

[@CSalt-ld6wv]

oo i like this :D

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

tyty

[@William_Verdun]

Isle never had a brachi

[@daniloverr]

Great video Orni, where did you find this graphic ???

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

its in the isle discord

[@MrSucho-vl7ih]

Bro other than having Greenland shark flesh, how is magy supposed to defend itself 😭😭😭

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

Watch my magy video and see

[@MrSucho-vl7ih]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx I just rewatched it, it makes sense. Hard to picture such a small sauropod fight carnivores such as Alberto, but just maybe it could stand a decent chance!

[@CurseOfVanishingI]

Ava won’t be an omnivore, sucho stays bary leaves, oviraptor DOESNT need mimic or deserve it,brachi can stay bc it would make for a challenging play style and bronto can stay too mainly because it’s cooler than all the other sauropods except cama

[@thunderzilla3521]

I'm sad the new dinos aren't coming to Legacy.

[@novastein9567]

Certainly a good list. It is of course, as any of these roster cuts, debatable in the specifics, but overall it keeps each Playstyle alive. While I think Something Like this would be much more ideal, I feel Like with what the devs are doing, even a roster the size you proposed is going to Take them a decade. Or hey, maybe that's Just the Pessimist in me speaking

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

someone calculated how long it'd take to get all playabled relseased at the current rate,70 years is how long it'd take....

[@novastein9567]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx and they probably didn't Take the 2 whole Game modes for tribales and mercs into the calculation, did they?💀

[@deepdarkabyssalpikachu6556]

Cool

[@martontoth2063]

Heresy! Heresy everywhere!4! Burn the non-ornithodirans! Kill the the small things! Purge the Maggie!!! Seriously though, it is insane how big the roster is...while we only got like 8-is playables in the last God-Emperor only knows how many years. And out of that Hipsy and Deino does not even count cuz one is small, and the other is...well... Deino. (My reasoning is flawless :D)

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

Magy shall go unpurged

[@MT-iw6sl]

3:10 Bro come on, you’d SERIOUSLY get rid of Carno over MAGY? Literally why?

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

Carno being the land apex for so long drove me to this

[@MT-iw6sl]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx I understand the frustration, I truly do, but don’t let it cloud your judgement! Magy is a meme for a reason

[@homiet-rex]

May I ask where I might be able to find the size chart image of isle’s species roster used in the beginning of this video? It’s really cool.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

if you're in the dicsord,look up nova in the servers,a person comes up,they have the link in their bio,im so sorry ive only just replied youtube hid your comment.

[@homiet-rex]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx ​ Hey thanks so much I really appreciate the help. (Been looking online for the images forever and the ones I found were of low quality) I’ll see to joining the discord server at some point so I can get it. And no worries at all about the replying thing KZbin is just like that sometimes i guess lol. Keep up the good work dude! 👍

[@FireTurkey]

Honestly still wish they figured mimic out :(

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

it doesnt look like it at this point

[@FireTurkey]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx Sad implications for ovi ngl

[@GustafUNL]

Personally I would only take off maybe six or seven from the whole roster. Ten at most. I would definitely take off realistic utahraptor though. My poor old Utah has to bear the stupid, oMnIrApToR name now. And it's not even a standard of realism that's applied evenly throughout the game. They just want a feathered raptor. That's it. I like realism but I hate those bastards.

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

i hate the name omniraptor :(

[@GustafUNL]

@@Orni-Mega-Lonyx Exactly.

[@jurassic_kiwi]

we have a loooooooooooooooooong wey to go

[@RexGamer112]

I do really hope they add pachyrhino

[@adamtruong1759]

6:37 Can I say it almost sounds like you're singing?

[@dariusspence6508]

Great video !

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

ty ty

[@noddarkwolf]

i agree with most of the removed ones other than troodon and mia troodon has venom and is in a smaller weight class with it being built for a Nocturnal style i think it should stay my only reason for Mia staying is because Mia should stay and Teno should be removed the Mia was here before Teno i see no reason for Tenos additon when Mia had already existed and was impemented

[@Orni-Mega-Lonyx]

damn thats controversial