The Issue With Cell As a Raider in Dragon Ball The Breakers

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Ironcane

Ironcane

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@LimitlessTJ
@LimitlessTJ Жыл бұрын
Cell can be the one balanced/basic raider. He doesn't need a buff or some crazy unique feature bro. Think about it every single raider coming after this will be unique in some way. Cell can be the one basic one. Plus leveling up fast is unique in and of itself. He gets to level 4 most often. That's good enough.
@SSGSativa
@SSGSativa Жыл бұрын
Agreed 100%
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
I agree that he's a beginner's raider and that's fine. Gives those unfamiliar with the game ki sense to find survivors easily and helps them learn the map that way. But for longtime players him having the one main gimmick of leveling up fast gets boring quick. Regardless, I hope in the future they allow us to further customize Raiders to equip different moves and passives down the line.
@blue_tempest
@blue_tempest Жыл бұрын
He needs nerfed so does frieza and vegeta
@JogVodka
@JogVodka Жыл бұрын
​@@blue_tempest neither of these raiders need nerf. They each struggle in their own way and survivors still are very strong in the game. So much so that I had to stop playing Vegeta because I kept dying even when I play perfect.
@25shadow11
@25shadow11 Жыл бұрын
He's the Mario of the game, balanced. You might even say he's... perfect?
@selfimprovement5873
@selfimprovement5873 Жыл бұрын
I personally would like to see an expansion on the hiding your key mechanic as Cell. Since that's what he was known for that in the anime when he was draining people as Imperfect Cell. Having a stealth raider would be cool.
@LordDarkDan
@LordDarkDan Жыл бұрын
I get what your saying completely and I do agree to a point, but I do think Cell's lvling advantage is a greater aspect to be scared of more so than the others. Yes its a trait in general that all Raiders being higher than a Surv makes them deadly, but if Cell has more strengths on top of the fact he can reach Lvl 4 arguably the most reliably. (I understand that yes Civs might be gone or Survivors work well enough to prevent him absorbing and reaching lvl 4, so not always, but in comparison to other Raiders Cell in general is usually guaranteed to reach lvl 4 if they know what they're doing or get a good start) Issue then is Survivors are gonna have no real counters/preventative measures. Like with Frieza, You can avoid him outright and focus getting rid of Namekians, maybe if lucky grabbing most if not all the DBs also. So that'll make his bonuses exempt until the very end. In which you can then use his transformations against him by working on the time machine. No, this won't happen every time, but you get what I mean, its a counter method. Using one of your own examples as a fix? If he's lvl 3 and losing you add on the ability to self destruct and then come back as lvl 4. Sounds great for Cell! but how would survivors even 'win' from that point outside of time machine? You'd need everyone to gang on lvl 3 Cell to down him in the first place most likely, then he just kills himself, becomes lvl 4 and now the whole/majority (depending on drinks) of the team are forced to hide and do nothing because they've just used their DCs to fight him as lvl 3, leaving at most only a lvl 4 Surv will who die on their own most likely and given how Vegeta is, he'd be copying him now just at a different level so it still wouldn't be 'unique.' As said, I do agree with you that Cell should get something else. But he's annoyingly in a difficult position because if you adjust him too much, he's gonna become too much. Personally I think Cell is in the middle in terms of strength between the Raiders but I also funnily enough have the most fun using him. I honestly think Cell's 'ability' should be he's customizable like the Survivors, given he's made of the Cells of all the Z Fighters. You should be able to pick and change his skills up unlike the other Raiders. That would be cool so no Cell is entirely the same.
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
if they did give Cell some sort of revival system they would need to adjust his health like they did for Vegeta. Also it could be cool if you could decrease Cell's level on damage and he spits up a survivor lol/ But I get that might be pushing it a bit
@elijahbrown6130
@elijahbrown6130 Жыл бұрын
I feel as nothing will change majorly with cell until after s4 unfortunately. Unless people talk about it enough cell being average won’t be a pressing issue for the devs to fix.
@elijahbrown6130
@elijahbrown6130 Жыл бұрын
@باسل الموزه I’m not arguing that. This video is about the uniqueness of his skill set and character as a raider which in terms of that cell is the worst in terms of that
@The_Legasus_Of_Gogeta
@The_Legasus_Of_Gogeta Жыл бұрын
@@elijahbrown6130Exactly! See you get it.
@_the-edit-or_
@_the-edit-or_ Жыл бұрын
3:00 nailed it on the gaslighting
@leonfawful3088
@leonfawful3088 Жыл бұрын
I think they should make Cell a stealth raider by reworking his ki control passive: At level 1, his heart beat radius is reduced by 75% (Level 2 -> 50%, Level 3 -> 25%, & Level 4 remains the same as the other raiders) Stealth can give cell the ability to sneak up or hide from suriviors. Assuming the devs don't want to give a huge rework to his kit.
@kunonabi
@kunonabi Жыл бұрын
Stealth just isn't viable unfortunately. It's too slow a strategy and Cell suffers too much from Key rushing and survivors getting ahead on dragon change power as it is. I mean even if he does surprise somebody they would just do energy barrier and bike away anyway. That's why they buffed larva to begin with since bad rng meant he lost the match as soon as it started.
@daryback7103
@daryback7103 Жыл бұрын
With what you said bout Cell, and remembering the anime, I would like to propose a passive which revives him at lvl 3 IF he is defeated at lvl 4, with a 1/3 of the total life once per game. If his "unique" trait is leveling up fast, then make a passive which takes advantage of that trait, as I proposed earlier.
@AnOldNut
@AnOldNut Жыл бұрын
That's actually a good idea
@daryback7103
@daryback7103 Жыл бұрын
@@AnOldNut thank you, I appreciate it 😎
@littlebadassgaming
@littlebadassgaming Жыл бұрын
his unique trait doesn't really feel like levelling up fast since.. Both cell and saibamen both get level 2 automatically 3 minutes into the game no matter what, (cell with auto-evolution at level 0, that is.) Sure, Cell CAN evolve the fastest, his level 2 form makes absolutely no sense, requiring 3 survivor finishes to get to level 3, while level 3 only requires 2.. This is the same for Level 2 frieza, Buu, and Vegeta....
@daryback7103
@daryback7103 Жыл бұрын
@@littlebadassgaming that's why I used " " for it. And anyway, he still do it better and more consistently, so, effectively speaking, is faster. In any case, it's about giving him something really unique which follows the Canon of the character. Just leveling fast to reach lvl 4 as fast as the furious is not enough to make it a unique trait.
@elijahbrown6130
@elijahbrown6130 Жыл бұрын
This is not a good idea I disagree 😂 imagine putting all that work in for lvl 4 and you use all your change power only to have to fight 3 again.
@super_kami_dende
@super_kami_dende Жыл бұрын
3:00 Yamu when I absorb my first civilian: "That's it, we have enough energy now." Me: 😐
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
LOL always lying!!
@humbertoreza4200
@humbertoreza4200 Жыл бұрын
Yo ironcane big fan here. I had a game with you last night as a raider. First time playing against you. You got some good hits in with tiens Diamond attack. Keep up the awesome work
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you man! People sleep on Tien!! His Tri-Beam is crazy!
@Legion617
@Legion617 Жыл бұрын
I find lots of survivors doing whatever they can to try and stop Cell's fast evolution before he gets to Semi Perfect/Perfect, because if he can get to those before most of the keys are set, the survivors are doomed, so they use early Dragon change to stop him from absorbing both Civvies and Survivors because Imperfect is honestly very good at deleting the team early on. I've killed entire teams (bar a single survivor or 2) because they rush to stop your absorptions. Tho premade teams with Instant transmission/barrier are such a hard counter to Cell's early forms. Frustrating.
@gogetathestrongestfusion
@gogetathestrongestfusion Жыл бұрын
Cell is pretty broken tho by far the easiest level 4 to get it’s insane Larva form is just a warm up finding one then immediately at two you can start hunting and need three for semi and then two for perfect it’s actually insane
@kaironst2969
@kaironst2969 Жыл бұрын
I could get some counterarguments (Used to main cell before going survivor only) -Afterimage is an ok evasive. It barely changes anything at the stm phase since offensive vanishing to their backs usually does the job alright. You also get energy barrier at level 4 which is great for doing just that - i am alright with the perk being "leveling up faster" you can usually get to level 4 before the stm kicks in. Then it's a massacre. - level 4 is super strong tied at second with buu, imo. All clear is pretty meh, but having basic ki blasts is the saving grace. They're so spammable, and there's very little way to avoid it if you dont have energy field or a good place to grapple to. But overall, yes. I do agree cell's uniqueness started to leak ever since buu got added. I always thought of him as a tracker type back on the beta. In my opinion, they should give cell some buffs to his ki sense, and add more ways for him to track others. Or another idea i just had. You know how cell knows a lot of abilities from other fighters? Maybe make cell a super spammer type an have him hold shift + r,t,1,2,3,4 to showcase all those techniques he learned from other fighters. I'm sure that would raise his skill ceiling notably.
@therevolutioniscoming315
@therevolutioniscoming315 Жыл бұрын
honestly i feel like they could give cell a new skill "regeneration" where if its an active skill, you press the button and get back a small bit of health (1 bar at max or 1.5 at max) and if its a passive its just he regenerates health on his own very slowly. i feel like this should work as an active because cell had to consciously regenerate, it didnt just happen automatically.
@shadowmist9093
@shadowmist9093 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if a cell self destruction move would be a super aoe attack like his final forms kamehameha. Just with a bigger radius and less length
@nervaaugustus7089
@nervaaugustus7089 Жыл бұрын
Cell levels up quickly, is the only Raider with an AoE stun (Solar Flare), and the only raider *without* a damaging evasive, at least until 4th stage. Speaking of, Stage 4 has two evasives, that's unique. Perfect Kamehameha had the second widest area of denial in the game until Great Ape Vegeta's Super Mouth Cannon which ties it (but doesn't deny ground as long), and his other Lv4 Super attack is basically Super Electric Strike on a 10-second cooldown. He also has Ki Control as a passive which I've heard has an affect on survivor heartbeat warnings, although his noisy-ass distinctive footsteps make him easier to detect with High Alert or just careful listening. Improving his Ki Tracking passive makes the auras revealed by Ki Detection last longer. His weaknesses are his lack of minions, weak level 1 (although he's usually out of it before survivors can exploit that), average health, and slow finishers that need to be performed from point blank and have no bonus features (unlike Frieza who can do his from range, Vegeta's and Ginyu's which are fast, and Buu's which heal him during stages 2 and 3). Since his detection method alerts Survivors affected, he's hard countered by IT. Cell was the first Raider ever implemented for this game, so his kit's pretty basic. He's the Raider that other Raiders are judged against, as a result. Cell has a low win rate because people know how to fight against him; deny him civvies and run if everything goes purple. High-level teams full of ITers basically run circles around him, given that he has no minions or speed boosts to counteract it, and a weak evasive when he's actually fighting. Cell could definitely use a secondary gimmick, but he has a pretty well-established identity thus far. Personally, if I were to make a change to him, I'd make him sneakier, with a lowered noise and heartbeat radius outside of Lv4 and make him immune to Telepathy and Listen while sneaking. That way if you hear the distinctive 'squak-squak-squak' of his feet, it means he's already almost on top of you.
@_Vengeance_
@_Vengeance_ Жыл бұрын
I must say I do like the gimmick. Before the buff, the gimmick was crap as Cell leveled up too slow, but they fixed that... mostly. My main complaint is that it's very lopsided now (lvl 3's too fast with just 2 absorptions), but they can't slow lvl 3 down to 3 absorptions or the gimmick's lost again, and they also can't swap the leveling speed of lvl 2 and 3 because then Cell will get to lvl 3 when all the Survivors are still lvl 1, which is too much.
@kunonabi
@kunonabi Жыл бұрын
The sad thing is Cell still doesn't evolve fast enough as he rarely gets past level 2 in my solo queue matches against him. If survivors outpace him on levels he has a hard time coming back since he's so susceptible to being stun locked. And even if he does get to his level 3 and 4 forms they have big drawbacks. Ki detection being so undependable doesn't help matters. He's probably still better than Vegeta since his health isn't so low and getting his 4 is a little more consistent but he just doesn't have the grimey, oppressive tools that Buu and Frieza do. I main him and still do well but the margin for error with him is very slim. It's annoying because he could have some stuff that they could have used but they gave it to other raiders. They want Cell to be the base, beginner raider and its really holding him back from being more viable. At the very least Perfect Cell needs a rework. Barrier should be an actual defensive move and solar flare should get switched out for something else. They should have given him a revive mechanic for sure. Giving him the ability to come back as super perfect cell if he gets killed at level 4 would be really nice especially if gets instant transmission with it. The fact that he doesn't have that, Cell Jr.s or a self destruct mechanic has always been a letdown.
@simbeau2012
@simbeau2012 Жыл бұрын
You’re joking right? With Cell not leveling up fast enough? 😂 He gets level 4 absurd compared to the others and him being able to ki sense so quickly in a row makes him more broken than he needs to be . Cell is in my opinion the most annoying raider to play against
@kunonabi
@kunonabi Жыл бұрын
@@simbeau2012 in theory he does indeed level up super fast but in practice teams will just tear him apart when he gets to level 2. He has it almost as rough as Buu does. Difference is Buu becomes a monster if he gets past level 2 and he can get regenerate health to boot. Cell on the other hand gets possibly the worst ki blast in the game and little else aside from blast volley. It's not really a problem with his actual energy gain but rather his toolkit and his slow absorb animations.
@mibone71
@mibone71 Жыл бұрын
I can agree that Cell could be a little bit stronger. A big chunk of his kit super attack wise is heavily telegraphed and really easy to dodge. Both of his level 2 supers are the worst offenders making it near impossible to use them against survivors in an actual fight and are better saved for getting a surprise snipe on a survivor not in dragon change where they can just dodge. Gravity impact in level 3 and all clear in level 4 also have shoddy tracking and gravity impact is yet another super that's easy to dodge if you know the timing. Level 3 also has access to kamehameha as a basic ki blast that can be used to snipe unaware survivors not in dragon change, but if they are aware then there's nothing stopping them from dodge rolling away outside of a close range energy volley or lucky gravity impact if they don't tank it with change invulnerability. Granted energy volley can also be used as one of the few counters to Bulma bike provided the survivor doesn't use energy field. Level 4 almost feels like a downgrade from level 3 outside of being able to shrug off rushdowns from level 3 survivors. As I said before, all clear's tracking makes it really easy to dodge just by moving up or down while in change, perfect kamehameha makes the environment near pitch black when you're using it making it near impossible to see targets let alone hit them, and the while the basic ki blasts have a bigger AoE than their level 2 counterparts, they aren't able to contest the STM like energy volley can and they're also kind of weak against change compared to other raiders. Also energy barrier is straight up useless. All that alongside not being able to defend a near inevitable ETM scenario against survivors at any skill range quite possibly makes it the worst level 4 in the game. All in all, I feel like Cell needs at least one more tool to help him handle survivors in fights outside of the near uncontestable yet mediocre rushdown that comes with winning the change power race. I'd still say he's a big step up from Buu against high level survivors, but he's nowhere near Frieza or Vegeta levels. EDIT: I forgot to mention that like Buu, Cell takes forever to finish off downed survivors in level 2 and 3. Good survivors can and will take advantage of this by using items like gloves or rocket launchers, skills like Krillin's shoe, Solar flare, or the Bansho fan, and even super attacks in dragon change making it near impossible to level up off of survivors in those instances.
@Insane234
@Insane234 Жыл бұрын
Wait, they didn't give Cell the ability to spawn Cell Jrs? Wasn't that a whole thing? Maybe have him spawn 5 Jrs that wonder around and attack survivors? Or maybe the more you put into it the more Jrs spawn?
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
this would be awesome!
@Insane234
@Insane234 Жыл бұрын
@@ironcane another option is to have him spawn the Jrs based on the current number of survivors (since if memory serves that's kinda what he did in the Cell Games) and each one seek out a specific survivor on their own without the players input or control with levels making them stronger. It'd be a bonus for perfection and be like Zarbon or Dodoria except more of them and the player has no control over who they target. So utility wise it wouldn't be for camping but for hunting or keeping the survivors busy while Cell destroys the super time machine.
@onlyonelord5877
@onlyonelord5877 Жыл бұрын
Frieza was my Top Dawg before Vegeta released. Specially with that finger snipe.
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
Frieza's overall utility is insane!
@elijahbrown6130
@elijahbrown6130 Жыл бұрын
I honestly thought you were attempting to do the Mickey Mouse voice after the voice crack😂 the fact that it was unintentional makes it that much funnier
@BuggzyBX
@BuggzyBX Жыл бұрын
give cell the ablity to summon cell jrs and change the transformation when lvl up to absorbing 17 and 18.
@GentleKlee
@GentleKlee Жыл бұрын
This is why I'm main frieza and master every passive they have and rest for break strike
@elijahbrown6130
@elijahbrown6130 Жыл бұрын
1:40 haha I’m Mickey haha 😂
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
LOL i didn't even peep that!
@MrJustin43
@MrJustin43 Жыл бұрын
You can solar flare the time machine to get survivors off of it.
@eunit08
@eunit08 Жыл бұрын
Is anybody gonna tell him about Perfect Barrier? Anybody?
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
lol i did forget about that ability, but in my defense I feel like most players never really use it even though it is a solid ability
@eunit08
@eunit08 Жыл бұрын
@@ironcane yea I often forget about it myself. After image is so good. So I guess Perfect Cell has 2 get-off-me options. I use it solely for high level survivors who try to hide behind the STM
@KeeganPlayz1234
@KeeganPlayz1234 Жыл бұрын
The aoe move doesn’t really matter tbh. Since it’s a 3d environment just fly UPWARD and ki blast them. Also if you do a vanish attack by vanishing forward toward the survivor then you can kick them from behind. Cell is also like the beginner friendly raider and should have a kit that’s basic.
@highchurro1545
@highchurro1545 11 ай бұрын
It’s crazy they completely forgot about the cell Jr’s l, they could of been better saibaman he calls in
@MrVibeRater123
@MrVibeRater123 Жыл бұрын
I like the term you use "inherent advantage". They just have to find some civs, get lucky with scans and you can't do anything, it truly takes no skill for him to be stronger than you. Also, Cell mains just think they're the shit, like they talk so much shit it's insane.
@scotti-pequeno
@scotti-pequeno Жыл бұрын
I think what you're trying to get at is that Cell doesn't have anything that makes him a spectacle. Such as Great Ape or the Suck into Head ability.
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
basically
@eunit08
@eunit08 Жыл бұрын
They'll need to have a new raider who if beginner friendly before they touch Cell
@am.bisonmain9077
@am.bisonmain9077 9 ай бұрын
I think the idea of Cell is “ALL Around/basic boi” but if I where to change it This is stealing from Self improvement is stealth but that’s not cell fully My idea is that cell changes a lot when he gets a new form So “Level 1” should stay the same but needs a bit more civilians to level up “2” is not MEANT for combat it’s only for picking off a enemy one by one or trying to find civilians “3” your able to actually get into a brawl and tank some hits but this isn’t your full power you still gotta play it smart… but you have a bit of leeway “4” and one quote “I’am perfect and you will quote everything I say”
@SSGSativa
@SSGSativa Жыл бұрын
I think Cell is just fine the way he is. He's a super easy raider to win with. Still haven't lost a single battle using him yet and I got him to level 100 a while ago. He's unique because of not being super unique if that makes any sense. He's also a stealth hunter so that kinda makes him unique and same with his life absorption. I'm not really sure what you want him to be like. They could add health regen for him or something but he really doesn't need it. They could make him be able to explode when he's at very low health or something. But in my own opinion, I think he's unique in his own way and just fine as is. He's also very beginner friendly. That older chart you brought up is way off tho.
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
Never lost a SINGLE game with Cell? 👀 I just feel that all the other raiders bring more to the table and Cell brings the least where he still has potential based on things he did in the anime. The stealth mechanic is interesting, but I feel like most players don't really understand how it works or that its even a thing. The main reason I'm so critical is because Cell is one of my favorite Villains and in my opinion, he's one of the least fun to play.
@SSGSativa
@SSGSativa Жыл бұрын
@@ironcane nope. Not a single loss (yet). I know losing as Cell is inevitable tho but I'm just glad I got to 100 with no losses. It's fitting for him because of his "Perfection" complex. Only lost 6 times as Frieza so far and he's the first I got to 100. I lost 5 games already as Vegeta tho. One was earlier today and I got destroyed cuz I let them all get the keys planted while I searched for the dragon balls as Nappa. It's cool tho. If we always won as the raider, it wouldn't be fun. But I feel you on wanting more for Cell. He's most definitely one of my favorite Dragon ball villains. I've always felt they did him bad in DBZ. Always wished the Cell Saga was longer and there were so many more things they could've done with him considering he had the cells of Saiyans and all the others for the most part. And please don't take my comment about that chart data personal. I was just stating that the data is wrong. At that time, about 85-90% of the raiders were Cell and the company didn't seem to take that into account. So of course it's gonna seem like Cell lost more. But what you said under another comment about them letting us swap skills for different ones would be kinda cool. All I know is if I wanna make sure I win as raider for a weekly challenge or any other reason, I pick Cell.
@creativebeatdown
@creativebeatdown Жыл бұрын
I'm a silver Cell. I fought whole parties who had a lvl 4 while I am lvl 2 only and i have some clips of it. Complete wipeout. Ki detection is wild.
@reddawn1873
@reddawn1873 Жыл бұрын
All that 2nd form cell needs to go to level 4 is a survivor and a civilian
@anpotatoperson9156
@anpotatoperson9156 Жыл бұрын
Keep in mind that if the survivors find all the dragon balls and if cell is level 2 against a lv 4 survivor who has ki spam cell legit can’t do anything against the lv 4 unless they make a huge mistake. Hence his 1st form is balanced to make up the fact you lv up fast as lv 1 n 3.
@jelloistasty
@jelloistasty Жыл бұрын
Doesn't the STM block aoe moves like angry shout, ki explosion, and solar flare now?
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
I don't believe it blocks AOEs just ki blasts and certain super attacks
@nastehaqalib7659
@nastehaqalib7659 Жыл бұрын
yo this game is sick I reccimand playing with friends but none of me friends play this and I just got play station plus premium
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
join my discord in the description if you want to play with others on playstation!
@0malleyAlleyc4t
@0malleyAlleyc4t Жыл бұрын
Simple fix: Bio-Android Nucleus
@LilYungGrabBagJr
@LilYungGrabBagJr Жыл бұрын
Cell is the jack of all trades raider I think he's perfect how he is
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
my counter to that would be he may be a jack of all trades, but he's also a master at none
@LilYungGrabBagJr
@LilYungGrabBagJr Жыл бұрын
@@ironcane that's the point
@25shadow11
@25shadow11 Жыл бұрын
Actually, now that I think about it, a big thing for Cell is the fact he can regen, and while I know that's a tricky thing to implement, it clearly isn't impossible, since Buu gains health back when he eats, why couldn't the same be done for Cell?
@PoopieFartGamer
@PoopieFartGamer Жыл бұрын
Exactly bro also the que system why am I only getting 150 survivors but when im playing survivor my team is 40 max it’s so dumb
@25shadow11
@25shadow11 Жыл бұрын
@@PoopieFartGamer glad someone else knows of this, it bugs the crap outta me when I'm a raider but the guys I'm going against are all barrier popping IT guys with stuns but when I'm survivor it's people going down to a level 1
@TheChief177
@TheChief177 Жыл бұрын
I don't understand him not having any regen ability
@android21evil19
@android21evil19 Жыл бұрын
The only issue I have with Cell in this game is that why does he not heal himself when he eats and absorbs survivors and civilians, when he's a Bio Android absorbing life energy.
@oh605
@oh605 Жыл бұрын
Cell is not bad. I’ve played since the full release of the game, I only play for my dailies/weeklies and stop once I finish dragon tier so i didn’t exclusively play on the patch where raiders are op and as a level 80 cell I have only got the “game lost” screen a single time. Just because he’s basic and doesn’t have anything crazy going on doesn’t mean he’s bad. Having Ki detection for pretty much the whole game makes him the best tracker on the game imo and makes it harder for the survivors to snowball against him compared to other raiders. After the first down you can almost always keep a survivor on the ground (without camping) which means someone is always gonna have to stop what they’re doing to go for a rez or lose a teammate.
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
The point of this video wasn't to call Cell "Bad" he isn't by any stretch of the imagination. I even admit here that he is one of the better raiders if not the best. My issue with Cell is that he lacks something truly unique. To me, simply leveling up fast isn't enough. Ki sense is great, but this isn't a move that's unique to him, Buu gets it at lvl 3. While I agree Cell getting this at lvl 2 makes him strong, imo it doesn't make him unique.
@oh605
@oh605 Жыл бұрын
@@ironcane Yeah i would agree he’s not Unique at all. Still watching through so just now at the part where you say you think he’s the best, was just sharing my opinions to ppl who still aren’t convinced. Keep up the great content though man, I just found you recently and you’ve quickly skyrocketed to my favorite breakers content creator!
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
Appreciate you man! Always open to have conversations about disagreements and whatnot as well! I plan on being the best breakers creator there is!!
@AstraFulminous
@AstraFulminous Жыл бұрын
My opinion. Be grateful for Cell's weaknesses. Why well its all fun in games til Bojack and his crew roll up for a jumpin
@bendaco2499
@bendaco2499 Жыл бұрын
The perfect kamehameha is bullshit. It’s the only moment in the entire game where aim is important but then you can’t see anything. For some reason the map becomes dark and cell doesn’t allow you to see one half of the screen…
@isaacramos3001
@isaacramos3001 Жыл бұрын
Don't worry the Cell Max raider will be here and make cell good
@ashmonke6588
@ashmonke6588 Жыл бұрын
To be fair cell is good in my opinion because he has ki sense at level 2 which in my opinion is the most broken raider skill.
@TyshaunBraxtonthepro
@TyshaunBraxtonthepro Жыл бұрын
Idk about other platforms but I’m a switch player, and cell is by far the strongest raider to go against solo queue. Almost every match is a etm match. Teammates are extremely brain dead and feed cell and ppl will continue to revive these people. Literally every match someone is downed by his 1st form.
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
i'm really curious to try out the switch version one day myself!
@isaacramos3001
@isaacramos3001 Жыл бұрын
Next time you should show a game with cell to showcase his flaws as well
@reagenlionel
@reagenlionel Жыл бұрын
I think cell is fine. I don't think he needs anything unique. He's the most balanced raider. And that's the role he seems to be and I'm fine with that. And I'm a cell main.
@MrVibeRater123
@MrVibeRater123 Жыл бұрын
Also, you said Cell doesn't have an aoe but he has energy barrier in level 4 + solar flare so I think he's pretty good at getting people off the machine unless you're level 2 but if you're level 2 at stm u deserve to lose lol
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
the barrier at lvl 4 100% is something I forgot to mention. This is Cell's only AOE option tho, solar flare I personally wouldn't count and it can be avoided. The barrier is definitely slept on!
@MrVibeRater123
@MrVibeRater123 Жыл бұрын
@Ironcane I understand why you wouldn't count it but I think it's something worth mentioning, it's not necessarily an aoe attack but it is an aoe stun.
@The_Legasus_Of_Gogeta
@The_Legasus_Of_Gogeta Жыл бұрын
He’s no longer good anymore and it shows. The main reason why he level up quicker than any other raider is because of his win rate back in last season he sucked so bad that they had to buff him to stand a chance against the survivors. Even in his level 4 is can still get cooked if the survivors know what they’re doing. I don’t even consider him as a threat anymore.
@MrVibeRater123
@MrVibeRater123 Жыл бұрын
Cell is so lame; even the high level Cells rely on the glitchy ki blast spam on his level 2 and 4 and scan. It isn't even fun going up against Cell, it takes 1 noob in the lobby for him to speedrun level 4 and you can't do much, but if the lobby is really good they just stomp him at level 2. So basically his matches are super easy or near impossible. Crappy raider.
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
this pretty much sums up my thoughts lol and its a shame because Cell is cool asf
@looney1283
@looney1283 Жыл бұрын
he's annoying and the worst raider because he's always annoying and fast energy fill up to lvl up quick, debuff him!
@toby.reference2764
@toby.reference2764 Жыл бұрын
First here
@ironcane
@ironcane Жыл бұрын
My man!
@wilkerwilkerbese905
@wilkerwilkerbese905 Жыл бұрын
They need to nerf that level 3 to 4 progression. His level 3 is non existent 90 percent of the time in a match.
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