The Japanese Expeditions to Rome

[@brotheryoungtrad217]

"In 1614, A Japanese Samurai stabbed a Spanish soldier in Acapulco, Mexico as recorded by the grandson of an Aztec Nobleman" Wow. Just wow.

[@DiMadHatter]

Wildest history sentence. Ever.

[@xXxSkyViperxXx]

Meanwhile in Spanish Philippines, Spanish musketeers shoot down Japanese ronin samurai, wokou pirates, and chinese pirates and smugglers.

[@MPHJackson7]

Top 10 Crossover Episodes

[@JohnnyElRed]

@@xXxSkyViperxXx And in Coria del Río, there are a lot of descendants of members of the Keicho expedition, with a lot of them still living with the Japón surname. And also, during WW2, even while being a close friend of Mussolini and Hitler, Franco tried to declare war on Japan. Man, for two countries that are basically on the two opposites extremes of the world, Spain and Japan have a very convoluted history together.

[@xXxSkyViperxXx]

@@JohnnyElRed yeah much of Spain's colonial era interactions with Japan are basically Philippine Spanish colonial history. I think it was in a journey to japan with the jesuits that our country got its first martyr saint since they went there to convert more christians but instead they got caught and executed. the historical japanese in the philippines were mostly assimilated into with catholic chinese mestizos and later immigrations became fewer because japan lost ww2 as the cruel brutal invader so they either left or assimilated and changed their names. there even was once a japanese influenced version of the local spanish creole such as the Chavacano in Davao called Castellano Abakay Japon, but that spanish creole dialect is now extinct. only a small few modern japanese now remain around there.

[@javierm7087]

Actually, something interesting of the Keicho Embassy is that they stopped briefly in a Andalusian town called Coria del Río before heading to Rome. There, some samurais of Hasekura's expedition were so attracted to Spanish culture that they actually decided to stay there and make a living instead of returning to Japan. These samurais did marry women from the town and, as their Japanese surnames were too complicated, the local priest decided to change it to 'Japón' (Spanish for Japan). Nowadays, a percentage of the population of Coria del Río do carry the surname Japón (some even have the double surnames Japón Japón, as in Spanish you are given both your father's and mother's surname), so the legacy of this embassy still lives on.

[@zurita1642]

True, the Keicho embassy is consider the first direct Diplo relation Japan-Spain, despide of the previos Tenshō embassy. The Japon surname is widespread in West Andalusia.

[@xXxSkyViperxXx]

Some christianized kirishitan japanese daimyo and people also moved to Spanish Philippines when Japan went anti-christian. Many of those are now assimilated in Manila. Before that, the japanese were a nuisance to the northern shores as the wokou pirates with japanese ronin samurai, pirates and chinese pirate smugglers came to raid or smuggle goods.

[@javierm7087]

@@zurita1642 According to INE (National Institution of Statistics of Spain), there are about 2000 people in Spain with the surname Japón, mainly in Western Andalusia. Not so widespread but still exists to this day. Source: www.ine.es/widgets/nombApell/index.shtml (search for Japón in the browser and then select 'apellidos' (surname))

[@javierm7087]

@@xXxSkyViperxXx yep. That is true. Portuguese and Spanish Jesuits in Japan and other colonies used to "recruit" Christian converts and train them in different colonies (Macao and Goa for Portugal and Philippines for Spain). Also, wako pirates usually sacked the Philippines when it was already a Spanish colony. In 1582, a battle (Cagayan combats) occured between wako raiders (about 1000 soldiers according to the sources) and Spanish garrison (40 soldiers and some ship crew). The wako force were demolished by the Spanish, showing the weakness of the Japanese katana versus the strong European swords. Since then, wako raiders tried to avoid fight with the Europeans in the Philippines, although raids would still happen.

[@zurita1642]

@@javierm7087 Fale maño, con mi nick prueba anda XDXDXD

[@mygvmtnamepublicallyavailable]

I would watch a movie about Samurai fighting a conquistador narrated by an aztec nobleman in the theatres as many times as I could afford to.

[@leonzoful]

Same!. Well, at that point the soldier was no longer a "conquistador" per say but a soldier of garrison.

[@mygvmtnamepublicallyavailable]

Leon _ oh ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[@joshpullman1690]

@@leonzoful doubt most of us could tell the difference, especially if they were all in their best uniform to impress the visitors...

[@fyurerys]

The Mongol Empire could not even sail from China to Japan (because it fell into a storm), and the Asian ships turned over on the waves. The balancing system was invented by Europeans. So what is he talking about ???? How could the Japanese cross the Pacific ??? NONSENSE.

[@foxkenji]

Quick. Let’s call Mel Gibson!!

[@Alias_Anybody]

In a parallel universe Japan became fully Catholic and the Pope is guarded by a few hundred Samurai.

[@joshpullman1690]

Plot twist America entered the war on Japan's side to help them in their holy battle to make Asia Christian. Europe is ruled by the Third Reich and postwar peace has led to the first three men on the moon being Japanese, American and German. Britain is a smouldering nuclear wasteland. The peace is final.

[@washizukanorico]

Josh Pullman how to tell you that you forget two important stuff : firstly : USA and Japan did have mutually excluding views on who should run Chinese economy, secondly : Russia/USSR ans it s oil would probably have beaten Germany anyway ... For your thing to work USA would also have to ally nazi germany which I don t see happening in any kind of alternate history. Moreover, even if events did happen that way : how on earth would be the peace final? 3 powers means in less that 15 years you would have a 2 against 1 Worls war 3 ....

[@michaelmiller7465]

In reality: Japan has less than 1 percent Christian population. The only country still around that successfully fended off the monotheistic religions. The Native Americans would be jealous, if they weren't all dying from European illness...

[@joshpullman1690]

@@washizukanorico ok so... 1) If America hadn't helped Nazi Germany would have crushed Britain, resulting in their entire military focus being aimed East at the USSR. 2) Given the infectivity of fundamentalist Christian ideals I'm sure they could have allied for a crusade 3) Not all comments are meant to be taken literally rofl

[@washizukanorico]

Josh Pullman not all comments are meant to be taken literally that is for sure, I am unfortunately pretty bad at sorting things out ... But as it is just KZbin comments about an alternate history that never will be I guess we are free to elaborate. Thus : 1) Germany launch Barbarossa before us declaration of war so no Germany wouldn’t t have been able to focus on Britain. 2) my undrestanding of the nazi ideology makes me think they where pretty anti-Christian ... they would be open to any kind of racial crusade to exterminate African-american, Native American and American Jews for sure but a holy war to convert the world to Christianity not so much ... 3) nothing to add there ...

[@greenacorn1151]

Dang, I thought this was going to be about the Roman Empire

[@Imperiused]

Waaay too early for that. I believe the Han Dynasty sent embassies to the Roman Empire, and vice-versa, but Japan at the time was just getting off the ground in terms of having a more complex civilization.

[@HemanKwayne]

Haha, which one?

[@degenerate3288]

How

[@HamboThomp]

Yeah i thought it was gonna be a bad history about it

[@filipschweiner1989]

@Vernon Roche My guess is that they come from China. We know for sure that some connections existed between Han empire and Roman empire. In that time Japan was still too weak to obtain these coins directly from Romans. Who knows, maybe few coins were brought to Japan during the times when the country was being heavily influenced by the chinese culture (buddhism, chinese characters - kanji, the board game of go, confucianism and much more).

[@igorjee]

-A Japanese stabbing a Spaniard? Hold my xocolatl.

[@colleennewholy9026]

Right??? Lmao. I burst out laughing

[@tompatterson1548]

I bet there's some visual now

[@luissanchez723]

What is that? Is that the obsidian weapon?

[@rdjj7965]

Luis Sanchez The obsidian weapon is the “macahuítl”

[@JoeMartinez18]

Chocolate?

[@KingsandGenerals]

I had to read it a few times, before I grokked that it is not Ancient Rome :-)

[@supremelordoftheauspicious2928]

Kings and Generals Hey

[@_TehTJ_]

Kings and Generals I was thinking it was a GreyStillPlays or an ISP grand strategy shitpost

[@cormacmacsuibhne2867]

I too thought it was ancient Rome, therefore explaining why a Roman coin was found in Japan but still.

[@EmperorTigerstar]

Had to clickbait--I mean---bring intrigue to the video somehow. :P

[@BradleyGearhart]

Kings and Generals I did the same thing. I was thinking, “there’s no way this actually happened, Mr Tigerstar.”

[@CapyMartinBara]

"An Aztic witness a Japanese Samurai stab a Spanish soilder" Another momment of history that will never be replicated

[@samuraimiskin]

Wololo ayoyo AoE

[@FaaduProductions]

AOE 3 FTW

[@greco-romano9852]

Half-Mexican here. Round up an Aztec and a Japanese dood, I'd we'll happily recreate sudoku.

[@Rao665]

well its possible there might have been a Japanse guy stabbing a Spanish man while a Mexican dude watched, somewhere in Mexico. Even if they're half it still counts.

[@nhmooytis7058]

Martin XY i spy a great action film....

[@Baplopird]

Thought you were talking about Imperial Rome when I saw the notification, and was at the brink of a heart attack.

[@USSAnimeNCC-]

I though it was a extremely late April fool joke lol

[@mgm3649]

As a Mexican, the stabbing story in Acapulco really surprised me. I had no idea that a samurai ever visited my country. Way cool.

[@evilpimp2475]

Kid, there are all types of people living in Mexico. Indians, Jewish people, Russians and Japanese people all call Mexico home

[@deltoroperdedor3166]

@@evilpimp2475 yeah, but there aren't many samurais in the 20th or 21st century

[@LetsTakeWalk]

Great setup for a movie.

[@cv4809]

It wasn't your country,it was Spain's.

[@mgm3649]

@@cv4809 Well given that Acapulco haven't changed location since that time, I'll call it my country.

[@NateTheGreat2399]

Europe: We have industry Japan: We have tissues Europe: °0°

[@darken2417]

Medieval western sleeve tissues are still far better. Unfortunately its frowned upon nowadays. But come on, an infinitely usable tissue that won't break apart and is made of quality material and that is of little hygienic issue.

[@fyurerys]

The Mongol Empire could not even sail from China to Japan (because it fell into a storm), and the Asian ships turned over on the waves. The balancing system was invented by Europeans. So what is he talking about ???? How could the Japanese cross the Pacific ??? NONSENSE.

[@someoneonearth1617]

Action The Mongolians just got unlucky. There is a theory the Chinese had made it to America, as remains of a huge vessel, the size of which could only match that of a Chinese one, was found on the West Coast.

[@QuiroLeonarth]

@@fyurerys Well this is because a British carpenter came before some years earlier in Japan and taught them how to build galleon type of ship. The ship of Hasekura was galleon looking like a european ship but diriged by japanese.

[@malayafreespirit1905]

@@fyurerys asian ship?ever heard the austronesian which is the ancestor of malaysia & indonesia

[@neighslayer768]

"In 1614, A Japanese Samurai stabbed a Spanish soldier in Acapulco, Mexico as recorded by the grandson of an Aztec Nobleman." That sounds like a Sabaton album waiting to be made.

[@malloysfootagearchive8919]

Neigh Slayer I’m funding it

[@rattheninja2877]

3:30 is this a game of Age of Empires or did we just invent history fanfiction?

[@dimitriosdrossidis9633]

Yes

[@touieg1211]

A truly ambitious crossover

[@kevinnac1]

History fanfiction in'st alternate history?

[@dimitriosdrossidis9633]

@@kevinnac1 depends on how much of a hot take it is

[@bkjeong4302]

That's even crazier than the Greco-Chinese War.

[@compassionatetraveler8625]

(Marco Polo travels to Asia) Japan: *uno reverse card*

[@joseemmanuelosegueracamare4044]

Morco Polo travels to asia Columbus travels to america Japan: is time for a crossover

[@BOS_C.O.]

I need a show/film of Hasekura's journey, a samurai in Mexico is way to cool to ignore

[@sandrothenecromancer6810]

Michael Shen-fu Tsung journey through Europe is also an interesting take.

[@foxkenji]

7 string samurai?

[@talkertard]

Shusaku Endo’s book the samurai. Though not completely accurate historic-wise...

[@enzocompanbadillo5365]

Theres an illustrated book about it: lacajadecerillosediciones.com/caja/shop/coleccion-ilustres/un-samurai-ve-el-amanecer-en-acapulco/

[@foxkenji]

@@enzocompanbadillo5365 wow there's a book? that's epic! Good thing I can read Spanish. We just need a movie done now.

[@sodacanman3126]

A Samurai, a Spanish Soldier, and The Grandson of an Aztec Nobleman walk into a bar

[@justin2308]

Soda Can Man One of them gets stabbed and another records it.

[@ceiling_cat]

That's how that scene in inglorious bastards came up

[@Opochtli]

Soda Can Man lol wot

[@Awakeningspirit20]

In Acapulco

[@alphariusfuze8089]

L m a o

[@androzani]

I think that mission to Mexico might’ve been the only conflict that the Americans Indian were just sitting back eating popcorn to.

[@darrynmurphy4764]

Pulls out a bag of maize, as he wonders why the sea people from each opposite sides are both so weird

[@XavierbTM1221]

"Indian americans" Do you mean "amerindians"?

[@androzani]

Benjamin Thomas There are many names for them... but many themselves choose this term. Your term sounds like a shorter version of mine.

[@DocZo0b]

This ignores the fact that Maya and Aztecs and their mixed descendants were very much a part of Spanish colonial society

[@DocZo0b]

or more accurately their mixed descendants by 1615

[@JeevesAnthrozaurUS]

My favorite part of Christian missionaries converting Samurai to Christendom is that many Christian Samurai would shout "Santa Maria!" as a battle cry

[@ahsanultaqwim3927]

they shout Maria-sama instead

[@hanselsihotang]

They are truly Japanese Crusaders

[@farias3590]

SANTA MARIA BANZAI

[@juanjoseterrescampos5564]

Desu vult

[@InternetAddict069]

@@juanjoseterrescampos5564 lmao

[@zorth4729]

"In 1614, A Japanese samurai stabbed a Spanish soldier in Acapulco, Mexico - as recorded by the grandson of an Aztec nobleman." This sounds like an update to For Honor.

[@wtfthisisntminecraft3501]

3:27 Finally Age of Empires II Multiplayer games make sense

[@dylanchouinard6141]

*Attack Trumpet*

[@Ninetey-el1mr]

*dying saracen villagers intensifies*

[@leonardorivelo6068]

*wololo*

[@tirex3673]

And Age of Empires III

[@dylanchouinard6141]

Tirex367 Commandament?

[@ocoileain8689]

3:30 *"WHAT IS THIS, A CROSSOVER EPISODE?"*

[@lukash1631]

3:30 That sounds like something that would only happen in some pre-modern Version of Jojo's Bizarre Adventure.

[@JohnSmith-ot7ez]

@SilverHunter99 Because everything is a Jojo reference

[@UnCommuniste]

@SilverHunter99 The world is literally a Jojo reference.

[@robetovera1448]

Stand Name: Sengoku Jidai Stand User: Hasekura Tsunenaga

[@connormclernon26]

lukas h SO NO CHI NO SADAME, JOOOOOOJOO

[@trueblueclue]

Now we know how Wamu, Kars, and Escidici came about.

[@cesargeney5268]

We need an anime of this. The entire thing

[@sandrothenecromancer6810]

Araki is an immortal, so he was probably there taking notes

[@jonathantan2469]

Pretty sure that's the plot of the "Samurai Jack" series...

[@danielcuevas5899]

There is actually a graphic novel called “Cimarronin” that’s based on the samurais expedition to Colonial Mexico. It’s a pretty good read if I do say so my self.

[@RolandTemplar]

No sabía eso

[@kangaskhan7164]

*meanwhile in an alternate universe* “The grand son of an Aztec noble stabs a samurai on his way to meet the dalai lhama”

[@thomasturner6980]

If these expeditions went better we would have had Mario kart Hentai by now

[@Matt-vh2ci]

Don't worry we have it

[@trueblueclue]

Pretty sure it's there.

[@CapyMartinBara]

We already do, and have for about 9 years so yeah.......dont ask for more

[@sandrothenecromancer6810]

Dishonorable shinto could not stand to mighty Popery

[@loganb7059]

Martin XY But imagine if it were introduced in the 1600s.

[@inq.zeketer1964]

What makes the story even better is that Hasekura went on the embassy to redeem honour of his family after his father was executed on charge of corruption. While in Europe, he was granted a coat of arms representing Buddhist swastika with two arrows, which he used as a flag on his ship.

[@ToastieBRRRN]

I swear there were 2 Japanese dudes called Christopher and Cosmas who were the first Japanese people to visit England at roughly the same time. (I think they were originally caputured by English privateers)

[@zurita1642]

This was a diplomatic mission, not just a very unfortunate POW history.

[@contradriverESP]

@@zurita1642 Right. We are talking about noble relations, not pirates

[@isakkelleryerameyn8400]

"visit"

[@felixsubakti6907]

They got dragged by privateers, they are originally ambassadors but lack of funds made them hired privateers instead of a proper diplomatic cruise.

[@dorkfish1275]

This got me started thinking on what if the pope was able to hire samurai. That feels like it'd be awesome.

[@TapOnX]

Samurai guard instead of Swiss guard

[@warlordofbritannia]

Papal States: Resurrection

[@aliceschuberg]

There actually were some Japanese samurai who were hired by European countries and fought for them.

[@bebos1262]

The Pope's guard made up entirely of Samurai, that's incredibly badass. Wish it could've happened.

[@GloryToParadis]

The Last Stand: The Anime

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

To be fair, I think you’d have to cram in quite a few history classes if you wanted to include every single cool minor tidbit in history.

[@bkjeong4302]

True

[@Hraktuus]

This isn't really that minor. The problem is the history we are taught is Euro centric. We'll hear about the European expeditions, but nothing like this. I was lucky enough to have a good AP World History teacher in high school, so we did at least learn about that major Chinese expedition. But there are a lot of things even that class was sorely lacking. History classes often omit crucial information for the sake of making narratives fit certain agendas. For example, in the US when taught about the American Civil War, it is never mentioned that Lincoln and the Russian Tsar were communicating with each other, and that the threat of the Russian navy was pretty much the only thing that kept the British from fully supporting the Confederates. For another more abstract example, we are taught (if we are lucky) about the crusaders going through Constantinople on their way to the Holy Land in the First Crusade, but we are almost never told the the crusaders laid siege to it at first (and this is the 1st Crusade, not the 4th), and Emperor Alexios had to fight them off and make them swear fealty. These aren't tidbits. They're very significant details that are left out, whether out of haste to summarize or on purpose. These gaps are all over in the history we are taught. Frankly, you can't trust anything you're taught until you reach specialized upper division university courses where you have to do the research yourself anyways.

[@CraftsmanOfAwsomenes]

@@Hraktuus Nothing is minor, but when it comes to a topic as broad as history, it gets a bit harder to touch your bases (at least in lower level education) without cutting at least some of the fat. History education in most schools is obviously pretty terrible, but it's not like you can possibly cover everything in even the best ones out there. There has to be at least some value assessment when it comes what things to cover. The whitewashed and overly nationalistic narratives obviously take precedent to a Daimyo getting baptized for most school systems at that point.

[@bkjeong4302]

Shogunate Japan, the Aztecs, and the Spanish Empire....WTF?

[@SLKRR]

This is pretty much every game of Europa Universalis 4 ever.

[@colleennewholy9026]

Ahhhh It just sounds so funny. Lmao

[@soyhugo390]

AoE II has entered the chat

[@maymay5600]

now i understand why japan and italy are allies in ww2 and other things

[@maymay5600]

@an nice huh, i forgot about that part

[@jonathantan2469]

3:30 "Omae wa mou shinderu..." "¿Qué?"

[@kotarohanawa7909]

the whole tissue incident is taught in Japan (at least as my personal experience) as a record of a European missionary traveling the city of Edo, not as Iberian civilian witnessing Japanese officials in Spain. This is interesting.... did the story somehow changed overtime or is it a separate incident?

[@My_Old_YT_Account]

@@bajocontinuo Where's Spain ? Oh yeah EUROPE, so it's technically right

[@maximumthrottle5391]

@@bajocontinuo don't be stupid Spaniards worked natives to death and forced them to slave about. in the later years of the empire around the 1700s once the colonies were well developed Spanish people and natives integrated with each other but it wasn't without a bloody start.

[@Matt-vh2ci]

Marco polo : slaps no u uno card on the table

[@Albert_Herring]

dead me

[@AACLAGE]

Next Quentin Tarantino movie, "The grandson of an Aztec nobleman, reports the murder of a Spanish soldier by a Japanese samurai in 17th century Mexico".

[@charlesbrooks94]

3:30 what is this, For Honor?

[@bkjeong4302]

Or.some bad alternate history fic

[@foxkenji]

Charles Brooks the conquistador probably ate the samurai’s taco lunch.

[@CantusTropus]

One thing you don't hear about much is that a fair few of the Aztec nobles converted and were given Spanish noble title grants.

[@Squrtie]

4:11 Tigerstar describes the first weebs in recorded history

[@mattpliska]

You should do one on the han embassy to marcus aurelius's rome

[@RC15O5]

And the other one with the Tang Empire meeting the Roman Empire under Constans II.

[@alexxiii6380]

Nice

[@TheHippoBLT]

Asian converted missionaries were popular in Europe. One chinese convert married a Frenchwoman and lived in Paris and was popular with the Sun King himself transcribing Chinese writings.

[@peterwindhorst5775]

And wrote the first French to Chinese Dictionaries.

[@patavinity1262]

Actually, Marco Polo didn't document his journey. He told the story to a fellow prisoner in Genoa who later documented it. It's speculated that he inserted many fabrications which were not Polo's.

[@Kenshiroit]

That was Rustichello da Pisa, and by his own admission he imbelled the story

[@日和見主義者-v3f]

I'm japanese. Thank you very much for introducing the history of japan.

[@ImDeluxeSP33some]

It's great to see Japanese history that isn't always about Japan's actions in WW2

[@MrMogi-zg2ud]

@@ImDeluxeSP33some or anything from the 1800s

[@Rao665]

@@MrMogi-zg2ud I mean an entire video game was based of a 15th century Japanese civil war.

[@Rao665]

@@MrMogi-zg2ud i would say for outsiders to Japanese culture, the most popular period of their history would be the Sengoku Jidai, THEN WW2 after that the Meiji restoration.

[@MrMogi-zg2ud]

@@Rao665 k

[@Jkp1321]

I've really wanted someone to do an alt history on if Japan had become fully evangelized by the Catholic Church. Like imagine if some Daimyō started crusades in Japan to establish Japan as a Catholic land. Samurai Crusaders when

[@Brutaltronics]

Faxicura had both the power of god and anime on his side. What a legend

[@touieg1211]

3:27 is truly an amazing sentence, but this is probably something that happens normally in a game of Sid Meier’s Civilisation.

[@sneeki8082]

You know what else normally happens in that game? Peaceful Indian leader nukes other countries.

[@paddlesaddlelad1881]

@@sneeki8082 'peaceful'

[@warlordofbritannia]

Sees title: Is this Bad History IV: Tigerstar Edition? Watches video: Ok, that’s pretty awesome

[@juanmanuelpenaloza9264]

Woah woah woah! You're telling me, I might actually be part Japanese... That explains a lot.

[@beurteilung713]

It would barely even be a part. It would be nearly non-traceable in your DNA.

[@xaviersaavedra7442]

Hasekura missed my ancestors by 120 miles.

[@-Ahab]

I really enjoyed how you inserted the sponsor lol

[@sergeantmajor_gross]

Damm that painting is amazing. Great historical stories.

[@cultofmalgus1310]

5:47 not as cool as a Samurai who comes before Caesar during his Triumph over Gaul. Yeah I know that would be impossible as those two cultures were hundreds of years apart but STILL. That would be awesome.

[@HSMiyamoto]

I never heard of this and I have studied Japanese history for years. Great find!

[@Baton793]

Man, what a fascinating topic! Always interesting to see that such unconnected nations in history, like for example the Papal States and Japan would have a diplomatic relation. Thank you very much for the video!

[@christopherellis2663]

Statue in Porto Vecchio in Italy 🇮🇹 many descendants in Spain 🇪🇸 Japón

[@elhistoriero1227]

Is that where the last name Japón comes from?

[@zurita1642]

@@elhistoriero1227 Coria del Río province of Seville originally, later the surname may be drif to other parts of Europe

[@deocruzada7828]

What’s interesting is that there actually is a novel based on this historical footnote: The Samurai by Shusaku Endo. Yes it’s the same guy who wrote Silence which became a Scorsese film

[@ozkul_arda200]

Nobody: The History Channel at midnight:

[@MrKenichi22]

Excellent Video There were also two things that helped cause the xenophobia, were a flood of Jesuits, from Portugal ,whom tried to convert Japan to Catholicism under the orders of the Pope. Also and during one of the 17th century Philippine revolts, a Japanese Trade ship was believed to be a Philippine ship. The Spanish sunk it and captured the survivors and distributed them throughout the Spanish Empire, when the Japanese inquired where they went, The Spanish explained but then refused to retrieve them. Japan cut off connections with Spain & Portugal because the Shogun believed the the priests were a threat to his power and that the Daimyo were secretly allying with the Spanish & Portuguese to win their favor and plot against the Shogun, and they deemed Spain and Portugal too dangerous to interact with. The Dutch on the other hand were allowed to stay as they understood not wanting to force Christianity onto Japan (Though it was more about the Shogun preventing threats to his power) and went along with these rules. They would donate dutch textbooks and references to Japan, and this would begin the Dutch studies which was how Japan kept up with the world. Lastly, The English were there too but because they weren’t making any money from selling products to Japan, the English packed up and left and both countries forgot that they had relations with each other until the 19th Century, but as the United Kingdom of Great Britain and Ireland, and found them frustrating to negotiate with as it had been 200 years since the two countries communicated with each other, as the Japanese didn’t recognize any contact they may have had prior.

[@chamel9771]

And that's not the only time samurais and spaniards have crossed swords. In the battle of Cagayán, an outnumered spanish contingent managed to defeat a group of ronin samurai and japanese pirates

[@ATMAnubis]

"In 1614, A Japanese Samurai stabbed a Spanish soldier in Acapulco, Mexico as recorded by the grandson of an Aztec Nobleman." -Top ten anime crossovers.

[@smite9924]

This is like the miku and Domino's crossover

[@sievad98]

BE SURE TO GET THAT WALLET

[@QuizmasterLaw]

The fight between the Samurai and the Conquistador as witnessed by the Aztec nobleman's grandson: "Han shot first!"

[@megamaniscoolrightguys2749]

I read about these events a few years ago on Wikipedia lol It's fascinating to think of the shocking clash of cultures that must've occurred when they landed on Mexican shores. Two weird notes: 1. There is a type of sandal called "huarache" that originated in Mexico by the indigenous people known as the Purépecha. Well, there has been some (most likely false) speculation that the word is somehow related to the Japanese word for sandal 「草鞋」(わらじ), which is spelled "waraji," and that the word traveled from Japan with these ambassadors. However, these words are more than likely false cognates. 2. It seems that, on Faxicura's return to New Spain's shores (his name is pronounced fa-shee-CU-ra), already on his trip back to Japan, he was startled to learn that the men he left behind in New Spain had formed relationships with the women there. What became of these men and their relationships, I don't know.

[@gabriellavedier9650]

They settled and had families, all of them given the surname of Japón. They're still there. The prince... er, the present emperor before he was emperor, visited to pay homage to the people.

[@Omerath9]

I love how hardly no credit is given to the Portuguese in this video, who actually by being the first Europeans to arrive in Japan, made all this possible.

[@robertlamantin5088]

Because this isn't the topic of the video, maybe ?

[@antideus9389]

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[@MachineGunMike]

Super cool! Thanks!

[@polandballofspace4226]

Sushi in pizza

[@csweezey18]

I hate you. I just want you to know that.

[@tsuss2205]

This is a thing in Brazil

[@nhmooytis7058]

PolandballOfSpace raw squid topping would be tasty...don’t knock it til you’ve tried it ,).

[@albierodriguez9797]

Imagine it was the Japanese that transported the first tomatoes from Mexico to Rome therefore catalyzing the invention of the pizza 🤯

[@dan_mer]

Well, Marco Polo's book may be questionable in some tiny details, but anyone who has read the book can tell with absolute certainly he did actually travel to China, he was in Persia, Central Asia. The only question is whether some things were witnessed first hand or based on things other people told him.

[@metall7910]

Please some one draw or paint the time where a Aztec nobleman was watching a samurai stab a spanish soldier. Pleaseeee.

[@jaojao1768]

I might do it later (though I'd have to do quite a bit of research), but I found Domingo de Chimalpahin(the Aztec nobleman)'s description of the japanese: They were all dressed up (…) as they are [in Japan]; they wear something like an ornamented jacket, a doublet, or long blouse, which they tie at (…) their waist; there they place a catana (…) of metal, which counts as their sword, and they wear something like a mantilla [headdress for women]. And their footwear is (…) softened leather called chamois, like foot gloves they put on their feet. They seem bold, not gentle and meek people, going about like eagles. And their foreheads are very bare because they closely shave their foreheads, making the shaving of their foreheads reach the middle of their heads. Their hair just begins at the temples, allgoing around toward the nape of their necks. They are long-haired; their hair reaches to their necks from letting it grow long. They cut only the tips (…) [and] they look like girls because of the way they wear their hair (…) they put together something like a piochtli [pigtail] which they tie in twisted, intertwined fashion, reaching to the middle of the head with close shaving. It really looks like a tonsure that they display on their heads, because long hair goes around from their temples to the nape of their neck. And they do not have beards, and they have faces like women, and they are whitish and light, with whitish or yellowish faces. All of the people of Japan are like that, that is how they look, and they are not - very tall

[@jeepmega629]

I knew about the first expedition, but not the first one. So the Stabbing If Acapulco really caught me off guard.

[@thehedgehogsdilemma9478]

This would make a great historical period piece anime!

[@anthonycoca2202]

That segue from story to product placement and sponsor recognition was smoooooth......

[@711jastin]

No one: Middle age History: A samurai stabbing a Mexican local, recorded by Aztec historian.

[@dtownblastinsalvi62]

Clement Wong a Spanish soldier

[@Ifoundnohappinesshere]

This is pretty interesting historical story, like imagine you have to get from Tokyo to Rome like take about 20 days or maybe 30 days to get there, is kinda impressive

[@aranbutcher4655]

More than that

[@zakfett92]

There's an anime in this somewhere.

[@peterwindhorst5775]

So... in theory it is not just the "rule of cool" but there was an episode where Zorro fought a ninja -that it could be based on real-world history.

[@misseli1]

What a fascinating video!

[@sharadowasdr]

This guy is like the Japanese Ibn Batuta !

[@WellWisdom.]

wow, thanks for making this amazing video!

[@MrKenichi22]

This knowledge adds more to and changing our understanding of 1500’s Japan, and Europe.

[@JoeMartinez18]

What? That if Leyasu wouldn't have won, Japan would be highly europeonized?

[@MrKenichi22]

Lobo Cruzado More like that there was efforts to interact with each other, and that embassies like the Iwakura Embassy of 1871-73 were done much earlier than presumed. We used to think Japan was fully locked up and isolated, but it’s a lot more complex than we assumed.

[@JoeMartinez18]

@@MrKenichi22 Complete isolation is near impossible. But if Japan would have opened up completly to the rest of the world instead of the semi-isolation, they would most likely have turned christian and alot of their culture would become more European as it was the European cultures that had a great significance in that time.

[@ShadrachASMR]

This I did not know!! Thank you, Emperor Tiger Star!

[@amesstarline5482]

So some Japanese visited places like Italy [and that stabbing story].. It's pretty epic.

[@13gan]

A factory in the context of that time is not a place of manufacturing but rather a trading post, where locals can meet with merchants called "factor" who will manage all the legalities of the trade like bill of lading, taxes and tariff etc. Basically it function like an embassy with more focus on trade.

[@not_suspicious]

the forbidden city wasn’t built until 1420, 150 years after Marco Polo.

[@seneca983]

Presumably, he visited (or claimed to have visited) Kublai's palace wherever it was at the time.

[@not_suspicious]

seneca983 Kublai’s capital was Beijing (Khanbaliq/ Dadu at the time) but the Forbidden city wasn’t built until 1420 in Beijing, 150 years later and during the Ming dynasty.

[@cheyennew811]

Stumbled across your channel from a random KZbin recommendation. You got a new subscriber.

[@bayufadhilla8685]

One of Japan's early attempts on sharing the concept of weeabo

[@dvelp7040]

I think anybody here know this, in 1582 the spaniards start to trade with the pacific colonies (philippines) and they notice that some of their comercial ships returned devastated, the reason was that there were some samurai pirates, commandeds by a lord in japan, that in attack of jealousy sent his army. In response the king of Spain sent his best captain, Juan Pablo de Carrion to confront the enemy. It was the first militar encounter between two continents(by sea). Check The battle of Cagayan, translated is Los Combates de Cagayan, - how a few man of the Tercios confront a huge army of Rōnins

[@wythore]

they dont teach this on the main stream history channels bc it doesn't involve USA or the british empire

[@valkorion8958]

Yep, in Mexico they only talk about Mexican, South American History and a bit of European. Asians and the rest of North America? Pfff, who tf is George Washington?

[@TheJok3rMan]

Kind of makes sense that countries primarily teach their own history

[@tommynobaka]

Champa definitely did not cover the whole of mainland SE asia during the time of Polo's expedition. There was several different nations, most notably the Khmer empire.

[@edbop]

just so you know, Saint-Tropez is pronounced san tro pay.

[@lamsect]

im french canadian and i wouldnt have read that as "san tro pay"

[@seribelz]

3:31 that sound like your typical age of empires game lol

[@22fordfx49]

Samarui vs conquistador...people would pay a lot of money for this movie

[@foxkenji]

22fordfx4 Mel Gibson should film it.

[@colleennewholy9026]

Hell yeah XD Espeically if the Aztecs & Maya get roles XD

[@nahidbethehonoredone]

And to think that the ever first and only recorded encounter and armed conflict in world history between a band of katana-wielding Japanese Ronin and Chinese mercenaries and pirates and the Spanish (and Mexicans and Latin American conscripts) infantrymen with their halberds and rifles occured in Cagayan, Philippines during the 1565-ish Cagayan Battles. This happened when the notorious Japanese pirate Tay Fusa and his band of Ronin (Samurais who lost their lords/masters), Chinese mercenaries and pirates were pillaging local villages in Cagayan, abusing the local populace and causing a ruckus in the newly established Spanish colony. The Spanish Governor General in turn ordered Juan Pablo de Carrion, and with only 40 soldiers equipped with European firearms, armor and weaponry and together with some unknown number of sailors and a small fleet consisting of a galley, 5 sloops and another light vessel, went up against the more numerous, yet poorly equipped Wokou or pirates and bandits consisting of Japanese, Chinese and Korean mercenaries and samurai warriors/ronins led by Tay Fusa. To know more: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1582_Cagayan_battles

[@eagle162]

I will take those battles with a grain of salt and those are not the only events in which we have a Western vs Eastern kind of scenario. gunbai-militaryhistory.blogspot.com/2018/11/cagayan-battles-of-1582-debunking-hoax.html?m=1

[@bificommander7472]

When I saw the title, I thought this was gonna be another Bad History episode.

[@hwachahistorychannel1617]

Great channel with amazing content!

[@modmaker7617]

With these expeditions some Japanese people stayed and inter-breed with the Italians to form the modern-day Japanese- Italian plumbers called Mario & Luigi.

[@richmondlandersenfells2238]

LMAO!

[@SamGarcia]

This needs to be a movie

[@mariosuena]

Nice try Melon, but i’ve already bought 10 boxes of your wallets! Just free my family already!

[@Cherb123456]

Very, Very interesting! Thanks

[@Paguo]

I thought it was Rome, like in Roman Empire

[@paulolucero9864]

That incident in Acapulco is like stuff of legends. Now I want to hear a story about a Spanish Conquistador against a Samurai warrior.

[@beurteilung713]

Pretty much any European warrior would wipe a Samurai clean. Japanese blades were fragile, and clashing them against other weapons could break them. Japanese wooden armor was also very heavy, heavier than metal European armor believe it or not. Europe was quite literally forged in fire, and remained in fire for centuries. Japan was isolated and their warriors were trained to fight other Japanese warriors.

[@richmondlandersenfells2238]

@@beurteilung713 japanese swords aren't certainly superior. But they most certainly ain't fragile than stones as you say.

[@AwesomeSauce696969]

Why is Cheistianity so appealing to people that even Daimyo's will convert to it and go on great adventures to centers of Christian power?

[@xXxSkyViperxXx]

good trade relations, tech transfer, and alliances with christian european empires

[@robertlamantin5088]

Paradise's promise.

[@state_song_xprt]

I read about this a few years ago and it absolutely blew my mind. You didn't mention that they gave THE POPE a pair of Katanas.

[@mangodip2170]

Woah WHAT. That just gets better!